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    nVidia GTX 780M Benchmarks and Overblocks (vBios, Afterburner, eVGA etc)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by xjulzkx, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. xjulzkx

    xjulzkx Notebook Guru

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    Try these nvidia drivers from clevo for the 780m:

    Serv-U - Error Occurred win 8 32bit version of nvidia 311.27 driver for 780m from clevo

    Serv-U - Error Occurred <- win 8 64bit version on 311.27 nvidia driver for 780m
     
  2. HaloGod2012

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    thanks, trying now
     
  3. xjulzkx

    xjulzkx Notebook Guru

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    The gtx 780m card you got. Do you know what upgrade kit it was for? Dell, MSI, ASUS, Clevo?
     
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    You have to mod the drivers yourself if you want the latest.
     
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    the 780m i got is from msi, it was pulled from a gt70

    the clevo drivers did not work either, im not sure how to mod a driver to work with the 780m, hope this isnt a vbios issue and just driver related. Anyone have a modded driver or a how to?
     
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    You can get modded drivers here:
    32x Series GeForce Driver release - LaptopVideo2Go Forums

    You'll have to extract the files and then save the "nvwin.inf" file to the "display.driver" folder.

    Then you can run the setup to install it. However, you might have trouble with Windows 8, because the driver is not signed.


    If you don't feel like doing that, here's a copy of the modded driver I used and signed:
    http://rapidshare.com/files/1806719813/320.20_win8x64.zip

    To install this one (at your own risk), all you have to do is extract and run the setup.
     
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    Thanks, downloading now. If this was a vbios issue i would have trouble booting correct? I see the gpu in windows so this must be completely driver related. Will report back soon, hopefully with a successful install and 3dmark run
     
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    This is fairly common when dealing with new GPUs, especially aftermarket upgrades.
     
  9. jaybee83

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    yup, looks like a modded driver .inf should fix it :) lucky :p
     
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    The nvidia installer fails when trying to install the graphics drivers, cant seem to get any driver to work, including the one you linked me to on rapidshare

    update: disabled driver signature enforcement in windows 8, think it installed, hope to bring a bench
     
  11. xjulzkx

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    YAY!! Finger's crossed it works and you can get some benchmarks done :)
     
  12. HaloGod2012

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    Make and Model: Dell Alienware M17x R4
    CPU: i7-3630qm
    Ram: 16gb 1600mhz
    Driver Version 320.20
    GPU Core/Memory Mhz: 849/2500 (Stock)
    Peak GPU Temp: 73c
    Benchmark link 2: weblink...
    GPU Core/MemoryMhz: 932/3000 (Afterburner, stock vbios])
    Peak GPU Temp: 76c





    ran a 3dmark11 bench at stock clocks with a stock 3630qm

    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,Alienware M17xR4 score: P7586 3DMarks

    3dmark11 overclocked +135/+300 in afterburner: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6726722

    Firestrike with my OC: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/775616?
    FireStrike Extreme with OC: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/775705?

    i believe i got the record on this thread for firestrike normal and extreme!

    so far, not impressed coming from a 680m, that should change though hopefully

    have we had any bios mods yet and voltage tweaks?
     
  13. Killerinstinct

    Killerinstinct Notebook Evangelist

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    i think u now hold the highest gpu score record for the GTX 780M , over 9000 is something vegeta would say

    also would mind explaining why ur not impressed because so far that just flew past any GTX 680M SSJ OC versions , i don't mean to be rude, just extremely curious ?
     
  14. Johnksss

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    Because....When you know your older card can create better numbers while over clocked, you are not going to be impressed. It's when you beat all your old scores that you really become impressed. (Speculation of course - And going by personal experience)
     
  15. Quagmire LXIX

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    Grats Halo! Great work and I think that's a cool jump out of the soft gate, when that hard mod comes, you'll be set due to that cool oc temp imo. Since we have pretty much the same rig, I thank you for the excellent test bed of info. Using gpu scores:

    780m vs 7970m 3DMark11
    stock vs stock +27.7%
    oc vs stock +43%
    oc vs oc +23.8%

    780m vs 7970m 3DMark
    oc vs stock P +36.4%
    oc vs stock X +35.4%

    Given the synthetic benchmark issues, this could easily translate to 25 to 70% increase in a broad range of games imo. If the guru's get them unlocked, it will be very interesting and possibly worth a project. Thanks for the work.

    Q
     
  16. Killerinstinct

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    yes that is true , but if u look at it this way ur comparing a limited OC GPU compared to fully OC GPU , this card will reach 10000 , and if u keep in mind that even with a non unlocked vbios, this card demolishes nearly all GTX 680M , because i think very few got up to a GPU score of 9000 , i think there were only 3 or 4 , with clocks of 1100 or something like that. Well he did say that he will be impressed later on when we get our nice new brains in these babies ;P also we better hope our PSU and ,for MSI ppl , batteries dont explode :p
     
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    9024 graphics score with a clock of 1180mhz core.
     
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    Ok, you're going in the wrong direction with my post...
    1: I'm not knocking the card
    2: I know the card is stock
    3: I know the people working on the vbios
    4: It does not demolish a 680M from an overclockers point of view. At least not yet, but these results help.
    5: Published results
    680M/780M Over clocked
    Result
    680M/780M Over clocked
    Result
    And we already know that the 780M is on stock voltage...
    6: I'm wanting to know if there is a real difference between FC03 and FC04. And since HaloGod is the first to actually have one, we can now start to see if there is a real difference between the two... Won't really know what they can do till these babies can be unlocked, but hopefully in time.... they will be.
    7: Not worried about stock at the moment since it's going to be pretty obvious that it wins in stock vs stock. We have started testing this of course. :)

    That is the only direction I am going in.
     
  19. Killerinstinct

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    i see what u mean lol 9470 , i don't think i ever saw that one before, must have been during the time i broke my GTX 680M :( btw what were ur clocks for that run :D also what was the voltage, also i did seem a bit defensive in my post and I apologize.
     
  20. Johnksss

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    No, no so much defensive, but more along the wrong path...
    No need for apologies, we're good here. :)

    Clocks were like 1130/1200 or so.
     
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    I've updated the OP.
     
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    That's run at +135MHz? Wonder why it's so much higher than mine.

    I think I was PSU limited on the OC. Here's revisions:

    Firestrike OC
    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz,Notebook P15SM

    Firestrike Extreme OC
    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz,Notebook P15SM

    Temps are 72CPU 72GPU for both.
     
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    There is no reason fc03 wont outperform fc04 running at 1.5v since we know the memo4y controller can handle it on gk104. I suppose the tracing could be an issue, but the modules are nice and close to the core.

    Ill be testing too ofc and seeing if it will go further with a small voltage bump on the memory.
     
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    Yes the biggest reason i was not impressed is because my overclocked 680m pulled these numbers, but once i get a vbios with more voltage that will all change. Another thing limiting me is my 3630qm, i might pick up something better soon. Also, once real drivers are released, im sure that will help also. Im just happy to have a 780m working in my R4.

    Also, msi afterburner wont allow me to go past +135 on the core, i tried everything to unlock it, anyone else have any luck, i know i can go further
     
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    Yes, svl7 I believe can raise the core clocks. I have an early test vbios from him.
     
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    i suppose you are not allowed to share it either, correct?

    Also, what is the max clocks everyone is hitting on the memory?
     
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    Sorry, no, partially because it has not been tested AFAIK and could potentially brick a card. He may have tested it with someone else but I don't know.
     
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    No problem i understand lol. As for the memory clocks on this card, ive upped it +500, and saw no improvement in scores, I think for 1080p I wont need any more bandwidth than stock

    update: this card is very unstable, clocks are boosting up and down all over the place and i cant narrow down a good OC when playing crysis 3. So far +100/300 crashes for me. The gpu core goes anywhere from 915 to 980mhz, we need a vbios fast lol
     
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    When you say no improvements for faster memory, did you test 1080p games? I saw consistent frame rate increases up to the max 2700 (for short periods) on my 680M.
     
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    I have not tested games, even with stock core and memory im getting crashes and freezes in crysis 3 after a few minutes, core boosts to 850 on stock settings, hope my card isnt faulty

    update: played metro last light stock settings, saw artifacts and flickering, might take the gpu out and see whats going on

    update2: some of the samsung chips werent making contact with the thermal pad under my bent x bracket, fixed that and seems like i should be fine, testing crysis 3 again

    Update 3: Works great and repasted perfectly, max temps in crysis 3 is only 73c, awesome, just one VRAM chip not making contact caused a big issue, make sure those thermal pads are making perfect contact for all people who are upgrading
     
  31. kolias

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    Your card is MSI version?right?
    That's why I decide to go with MSI now....I order it(MSI GT70 2 OD BAREBONE)and in couple of days I will have it in my hands... :)
    Better OC..... ever.... :)
    Nice results for stock volt!!
     
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    Yes my card is MSI, the memory seems like its not likeing too much of an OC, might have to play with voltages in the future. These samsung gddr5 chips must run real hot, or have already been clocked factory to its near max


    Huge Update: In crysis 3, the most demanding, i tested soft overclocks. The memory was not the limiter it turns out. The core is not stable even when OC'd a tiny amount. What i do is leave crysis 3 running on a demanding scene and let it sit. However, the memory can be clocked on my card up to +500 and run stable in crysis 3. Seems like the 780m core is not a good clocker. Im hoping more juice will change all that. the 780m already runs up to 850mhz on stock, which is good, but i hope they left some headroom. The stock voltage also seems pretty low on the core, hoping thats the culprit. As for benchmarks, my core can run them overclocked fine, but it seems like crysis 3 hates overclocks and the engine doesnt handle them well, any thoughts on this?

    Another update: only application that crashes this card is crysis 3 with overclocks, any other game is fine, very strange. Final stable clocks is +135 core(max i can do with afterburner) and +400 on the memory.
     
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    so should i wait a while before buying and are you using the r4s 240 psu
     
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    yes i am using the 240watt psu that came with my R4. Not sure about waiting, every game has played flawless with max soft overclocks. Crysis 3 has issues with overclocks no matter which card you use. Ive been rock stable playing grid 2 and metro last light for hours at +135/+500.
     
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    thanks i would probably (sp?) have to upgrade if i got two im trying to get them through alienware so i can have a warranty on them with the laptop
     
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    yeah i skipped and yeah i didnt use the search function as im lazy. hey at least im honest.

    yes/no

    IS THE 780m compatable and will work with my P150EM?
     
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    if you dont mind me asking where did you get the msi one and was it hard to install
     
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    pulled it off a gt70 and gave them my 680m. I actually miss the 680m lol, clocked high and never crashed. The 780m has been crashing left and right randomly at different clocks. Could be driver related as I dont have any official 780m driver
     
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    nice score, that cpu helped that overall score alot! How much would a 3920xm run me? Might want to pick one up
     
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    Yes, but it didn't help the gpu score at all.

    Edit:
    Still...not impressed as well. Not till I knock off all my old scores.
     
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    Yeah, and i have a feeling based off the stock voltage OC that even with more voltage this card wont be anything spectacular. Feels like a 685m to me.
     
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    I'm actually impressed that it can run same performance as a 680m at 1000/2400 but at 8-10C less. However I am realizing a large part of that is the heatsink at least in the Clevo. It's actually a 120W card so it's not as spectacular as I thought since I thought it would be a 100W card. But still it runs very cool. I think with a 680m 1000/2400 with the new Clevo heatsink it could run just as cool. Granted the OC of the 780m will push it even further, but not that much further. Power draw will be the biggest hurdle and only for those brave enough to mod their own PSU. If Asus offers a larger PSU which it sounds like, and MSI uses the "battery boost" that puts Sager behind the 8 ball.
     
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    Im pretty sure the card is 100 watts. And that's probably why it runs the way it does.

    I also have a 330 watt PSU and one video card installed. I have no power issues hindering this cards max potential..... So we shall see..
     
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    I don't think so. The system with 780m at stock clocks draws 8-10% more power than the 680m @ 1000/2400, and it's 20-25% more power than a stock 680m. Yes yes yes I know power draw does not necessarily equal TDP but it's a direct correlation. More power it consumes, more heat it has to dissipate. So either the 680m is actually a much lower TDP or the 780m is well over 100W.
     
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    Depends on how close you really are to 100 watts first. Your 680M might not even be breaking the 80W.... Speculation of course
     
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    yep and none. stock voltage
    did a 1080, but it didnt change anything
     
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    Pretty impressive for stock voltage. I'm thinking 10k gpu is around the corner.

    Sent from my GT-N7000
     
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    That's what im thinking...but how long is the real question.
    Pulled off a 33.6k gpu vantage run.

    Edit:
    Looks like I answered my own question.
    NDA for the time being so dont ask. :D

    World Record!
    3dmark11
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M18xR2 score: P9721 3DMarks
    Firestrike
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M18xR2 score: P6275 3DMarks
    Firestrike X
    World Record!
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M18xR2 score: X3092 3DMarks
     
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