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    nVidia GTX 780M Benchmarks and Overblocks (vBios, Afterburner, eVGA etc)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by xjulzkx, Jun 11, 2013.

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    Are you in High Performance mode? My stock 4700MQ hit 7651 at stock. Something isn't right there.
     
  3. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

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    yeap!
    I know that the 4700mq hits 7700 something...
    do I have to put the battery on?? or it doesn't mean anything?
    edit:also says:
    Processor is not recognized ( + 1 more
    what the heck is that??
     
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    It means that futuremark have not recieved enough 4800MQ results to identify it and the +1 more is likely non approved drivers.

    You can run XTU in the background to see what the CPU is doing :) Just turn on the important info on the graph like TDP, temps and throttle %.
     
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    Someone please have this stickied to the Alienware m18x page so that it can quiet down the naysayers constantly saying how horrible the 780m is and why it's completely not worth it to upgrade if you have the 680m as "the 780m is basically just an overclocked 680m with no headroom to overclock."

    Well done John.
     
  7. jaybee83

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    just to be able to put it in perspective: how high can one go with 680m sli? including ov and max oc?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  8. Johnksss

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    When you take me out of that equation...
    17.6k gpu
    15.1k overall
    1120/1200 overclock
    1.1V
    vs
    18.5k gpu
    15.5k overall
    1040/1500 overclock
    about 1.05V up to 1.1V i forget.
     
  9. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    hm, thats about a 5% difference in gpu score. if one is really able to reach that with his sli config it surely doesnt make sense to upgrade just yet :) thx for the info john

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    What is a realistic clock that you can actually *game* with. That's really what matters right? Not bragging rights for fastest clocks? I don't mean having to have your laptop sitting on a barrel full of dry ice with a box fan on it to keep it cool, but to use the laptop as-is with built-in cooling? And without needing a 500W PSU to drive it? At that point you're better off just using a desktop.
     
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    You mean like a Clevo/Sager needing a dual psu just to run half way correct right? No.

    Everything on this link was ran just for people like you my friend. With explanations, plus everything showing in the screen shots. Video isn't that great so i took screen shots while playing
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...are-18-parallel-gtx-titan-pc.html#post9257145

    You guys crack me up complaining about running stuff stock. And the more it's voiced the funnier it is. That link posted above is sitting on desk in a 95F (cooler master heat pad) room with everything on ultra with temps showing. You can't get any realer than that.
     
  12. Vytis

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    So far so good on this one...Benchmarks are with a modest overclock, stock Vbios. Running with the new driver (320.49) from yesterday's release, seems to be stable enough.

    3D Mark 11- 8852 with the highest temp of 77 degrees
    3D Mark Vantage- 30852 with high temp of 75 degrees

    Mark11.png P30.png

    I know Vantage is old and not very useful but I like to run it to compare to older cards.

    Well, that and I always wanted to break 30K with a single GPU.

    Also, ran the Tomb Raider Bench and saw 74.9 FPS while on the 7970M I was getting around 60 or so with the overclock.

    All in all, well worth it upgrade from the 7970m. Glad to be back on NVIDIA drivers.
     
  13. SynergyUK

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    Any heaven benchmarks?

    So that I can see if my 780m is performing properly as I dont own 3dmark11.
     
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    And where might your heaven run be at?
     
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    Will do it now, any suggested settings to run it at?

    23:45:17 Benchmark results:
    23:45:17 Time: 260.534
    23:45:17 Frames: 8137
    23:45:17 FPS: 31.232
    23:45:17 Min FPS: 7.35916
    23:45:17 Max FPS: 61.6836
    23:45:17 Score: 786.734

    Settings;

    heaven_zpsf35df642.jpg

    3dmark11 score;

    3dmark11_zps848512c4.jpg
     
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    My Heaven 4.0 results from a few days ago:
    [​IMG]
     
  17. xjulzkx

    xjulzkx Notebook Guru

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    So on my P150SM after upgrading to the newer nVidia 320.49 WHQL drivers, 180W default PSU, laptop running in balanced mode with it's GTX 780M and i7-4700MQ, I get the following:

    Stock Clocks: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Notebook P15SM -- P7800 -- GPU 8051

    Overclocked using MSI Afterburner +135 on core and +501 on Memory: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Notebook P15SM -- P8614 -- GPU 9034

    GPU temps never went above 67c on the overclocked benchmark.

    I also obtained the latest beta EC and BIOS firmware from my provider MetaBox who just got them from Clevo.

    EC Version: 1.00.04
    BIOS Version: 1.00.06
     
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    What improvements did EC/BIOS upgrades do for your p150sm? anything noticable in terms of fan speed/noise?
     
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    thats a really high stock gpu score, i just installed the 320.49 whql drivers on my msi with a modded inf and got a P7441 score, with a GPU score of 7548, which is still good, an oveall improvement from my P7311 score that i got previously with around a 7400 GPU score.
     
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    To be honest I am not 100% sure what difference it's made yet except I did notice the fans were running silent a lot more than previously. I contacted MetaBox who supplied me with the Clevo P150SM and have asked them for release notes regarding the EC and BIOS update they emailed to me to test.
     
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    So I just updated my GTX 780M to the Windows 8.1 preview 64-bit version 326.01 drivers. At Stock Clocks: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Notebook P15SM -- P7876 -- GPU 8117

    Will do a few overclocked benchmarks shortly.

    I'm downloading now and will test for you.

    **EDIT**

    Set configuration to Max in 1920x1080, my system spec's are in my signature below. Running NVIDIA 326.01 Windows 8.1 64-bit preview drivers.

    Stock Clocks on CPU and GPU: 7182
    Stock CPU Clocks, Overclocked GPU (+135@Core +501@Mem): 8137
     
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    Ok so I decided to use the Intel Extreme Tuning tool to try and overclock the CPU a tiny to see if I can find a good balance in performance with the GPU. Running Windows 8.1 Preview Nvidia 326.01 Driver.

    Stock GPU Cores with CPU +200Mhz -> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Notebook P15SM -- P7876 -- GPU 8117...

    GPU +135@Core +480@Mem with CPU +200Mhz -> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Notebook P15SM -- P8699 -- GPU 9067..
     
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    Thanks for the benches and real world description of how the game feels! Much appreciated.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
     
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    Here is one of my first bencharks 3dmark11 scores with my new 18. I bumped up some CPU processing speeds, with Turboboost CPU-Z says it is up to 4.2 at times. When my try overclocking the gpu with MSI Afterburner my scores go down? Any advice?
    3DMark2.jpg
     
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    maybe psu is too weak to handle both cpu and gpu oc? :D

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    About to order a Clevo P370SM with GTX780M SLI. Can't wait to get it and post some benchmarks.
     
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    All the i7 quads of this generation are partially unlocked, 4700 = +200, 4800 = +400, 4900 = + 600mhz.
     
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    Oh wow, that is amazing!
    Can't wait to get my hands on mine.

    is it safe to run it with it being overclocked 100% of the time?
     
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    Yes its fine to run it OC'd, just monitor those temps.
     
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    Do you guys think the Sagers with the disabled nvidia optimus leads to slightly better performance with the 780m than the other models Dell/MSI/ASUS with optimus?
     
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    on all machines or 17" and up?
     
  35. Talon

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    Screen size has nothing to do with the ability to use the unlocked multis. It will come down to individual manufacturer or bios. My GT60 has the ability to use the unlocked multis when using Intel XTU.
     
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    I wonder if the new Alienware will allow this.
     
  37. ObserverJLin

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    Is 780m a better OCer than 680m was?
     
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    yeup.........:thumbsup:
     
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    If I remember correct one could OC a 680m by 30%. If that applies to 780m shouldn't we see 10k 3DMark11 scores?
     
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    Has anyone done a max OC on 780m without vBIOS or over volting?
     
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    I believe its pretty hard to do a max OC without a vbios mod or overvolting due to the fact the sliders for applications such as afterburner wont go past 135 initally. For any card really, dont expect more than a 10-15 percent overclock with the softwage due to the fact you'll need more voltage to ascertain more performance. The kepler models in general seem to be good overclockers, and for the most part from what ive seen, the 780m seems like a good overclocker given the short amount of time its been out.
     
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    Not for me ... it's not even stable at +100 MHz core at default vCore. Much worse overclocker than my 680m, and because of that, lower performer as well.
     
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    I know. In fact, I used that vbios, but even at 1050 mV, my 780m wasn't stable at 140 MHz+, so it couldn't even beat my 680m at 1019/2350 MHz.
     
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    did u use the latest version of the vbios , there was a slight issue with having to set the voltage bar at +150 to actually have an +12.5 mV with the first version of the vbios, if u have then u got unlucky :(
     
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    The 780M has more active cores which leads to a higher chance of a transistor being even slower than the slowest in your last chip.

    However that difference in clock is offset by having more cores usually but you could get unlucky.
     
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    Sounds more like user error to me....
    Running 950/1000 on both cards rings in at 92.67=680m and 97.25=780m (Test 3 of 3dmark11) votlage @1V for both cards.
     
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    What user error would that be?

    My 680m is stable at a much higher frequency than my 780m, in fact so much higher, that the 14% higher shader count advantage the latter enjoys is offset. Thus, they are equal in terms of performance at best, and the 780m is thus no improvement.
     
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    That is plausible since some 780M's may not OC very well and the 1 SMX is hardly an earth shattering hardware difference between the two cards. Like in your case, a higher and more stable 680M OC could offset the lack of SMX and be as fast or faster than a 780M that doesn't clock so well. This was the case in the desktop world with the 670 vs 680 and that's why 670 was such a popular card.
     
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