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    nVidia GTX 780M Benchmarks and Overblocks (vBios, Afterburner, eVGA etc)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by xjulzkx, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. Johnksss

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    Well, technically it's stable now....
    What exactly is your setup?
     
  2. ObserverJLin

    ObserverJLin Notebook Evangelist

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    Haven't jump onto one yet. Between clevo and AW I'm leaning towards the latter.

    By stable do you mean the 30% OC on 780m?
     
  3. Johnksss

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    To be honest...I don't do this percentages stuff because it amounts to more arguing than actually getting anything done.


    Can you run 1.1 ghz core...You should be able to, but not on stock vbios or stock voltage or stock power settings.
     
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    Blackbart Newbie

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    Did some more tweaking last night and installed the custom vbios. I'm able to blow past my stock OC of 100+/300+ to 170+/470+ with PTT at 146%/92c. The limit now is thermals: any higher than 170+ (1020mhz) and I hit the temp target/limit and throttling after a while benching and playing. Gonna try repasting this weekend (and lowering my ambient temps which are around 81f :mad:) Hopefully will be able to eek out a bit more speed, but I'm happy as I'm squarely running around the same core speed as my 680ms.

    Edit: Here's one of my new 3d11 runs: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6888925

    Note: in all my testing (and gaming) I didn't trip my PSU: my cards are hitting their temp target and throttling before they can trip it, I believe -- my 330w PSU seems good to go for a pretty decent OC. Worth noting I also had my 4700mq mulipliers raised in XTU throughout my testing as well.
     
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    You coukd look into placing washers to increase the mounting tension too.
     
  7. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    There is stock speeds, there is overclock and there is johnkss speeds.

    That overclock wattage is not something average joe who overclock will encounter :p
     
  8. Zill

    Zill Notebook Consultant

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    Can anyone build me a modded AW PSU? Can't seem to find a straight forward tutorial on how to do this...

    I'll pay decent money for it (within reason) :D

    Thanks!
     
  9. ganzonomy

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    Did you by chance, leave the battery mode in "balanced" or some sort of "Dell Economode" ?

    Jason
     
  10. Zill

    Zill Notebook Consultant

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    Update your driver, they arent't recognised...
     
  11. Johnksss

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    The 240W psu can run quite a bit though. But it will not allow you to break an M18x record, only because it's power limited. Had they given it the right psu, most definitely it will hang and win in some case. And will allow you to have every day clocks of 1100/3000. gaming and benching. (About 98 to 100 percent of the time depending on driver.)

    Now that was a very good run there!
    Very respectable gpu score of 18.1k. nice.
     
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    I believe it is in balanced mode but I have the laptop plugged in so that shouldn't matter... or should it?
     
  13. ganzonomy

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    Where can I get the latest VBIOS for this card, or did sager never issue updates? The gpu issue is what's keeping me from pushing the button to order.

    Jason
     
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    so what ind of diver is compatible with the AW gtx 780m ?
     
  16. Red Line

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    harmattan Clevo 780M GPU's seems to have a 1019Mhz core clock limit( I could run mine at 1019/2700 at 1.037v even at 75C temps it just doesn't go any higher...
     
  17. harmattan

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    I can run a hair over that at 175+ (1024mhz) at 1.037v, but heat gets too high after a couple min and throttling occurs. That's in SLI, haven't tried OC-ing with the custom vbios one-legged yet.

    My best 3D11 GPU score was 18433 with 170+/460+ -- that's good enough for me and is equivalent to a lightly OC'ed desktop GTX 680 SLI setup.
     
  18. D2 Ultima

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    Was that OC using the power adapter? Or just the plain 330W basic adapter?
     
  19. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    Plain old 330W adapter.
     
  20. D2 Ultima

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    Interesting; HTwingnut wasn't able to do more than 100/400; you've gone a good bit higher. What's your temps and ambient room temperature? Do you get power choked when gaming under those clocks and are you using a cooler?
     
  21. kolias

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    but I think it was on stock bios volt.
    why the clevo cards cant oc well without the flash bios?? :confused:
     
  22. harmattan

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    To clarify, I'm running the custom bios with the following settings:

    Core: 175+
    Mem: 460+
    Power/Temp Target: 146%/92c (won't go to 93c for some reason)
    Voltage: .037+ (1.037v)

    Stable for a couple 3D11 runs (although locked up after 12 min of Heaven). Temps do hit the 92c theshold in Heaven after a couple minutes and the cards throttle back to 434mhz. My max stable OC looks to be 170+/460+, but temps run dangerously close to the target after a while so the "day-to-day" speed I'm running is 150+/450+. I haven't had time, but I'm going to try to repaste with my trusty MX-2 (and maybe the washer tweak).
     
  23. harmattan

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    The limit for the cards (not just Clevo, but AW cards) is the stock power target/limit. These cards can pull upwards of 140w when OC'ed (which explains why nV decided to limit the card's power threshold, and also points to why MSI implemented their "NOS" battery draw feature). My ability to OC has been directly proportional to the power target: once the PT was increased my OC headroom improved.

    Essentially, you need to use a custom vbios to get anything more than a moderate OC on the 780m.
     
  24. Red Line

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    That was some very impressive runs, BTW! It should equal the OC'ed desktop GTX760 SLI. I tried bumping the vcore to 1.0625 with modded bios and was able to run at the clocks below. The thing is the my 180W PSU is a bottleneck and the system just shuts down after 2800 on the memory(

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Seems like i'm pretty much limited to power consumption. That's why i did this little trick (try to use it, it might help) - dim the display to a min, turn off the KB backlit, using Intel XTU change the offset values to -100mv. This can save you up to 25W and may improve your scores a tad)
     
  25. kolias

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    Nice scores mate!!!:thumbsup:
    I have question to you....
    You said you change via XTU the offset values to -100mv
    all the offsets settings on XTU?
    and its running cooler with the same performance(stock)??
    btw your cpu is running stock?(3.5ghz -4 cores?)on the screenshots??
     
  26. D2 Ultima

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    According to one of the AW users named john-something (I think it's johnssss maybe) the 780M cannot pass 92 degrees celcius; it will dial back if it is going to exceed that threshold. You can edit that with one of the custom bioses, but I don't know which one or how to do it off hand.

    Also, you didn't list your ambient room temperature, though thanks for the info about the temps and such. I might OC it a solid 120/400 or so if I need it, but I would like to get a certain high 3D11 score XD. Thanks for the tips about dimming screen and removing keyboard backlights though for extra power.
     
  27. Red Line

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    kolias, Tnx) That was a psychological barrier in GPU score in 3dmark11 of 3k and 3dmark13 7k. I was also trying to break 10k in 3dmark11 performance score, but this preset consumes more power the extreme, weird. And my PSU just shuts down(

    It's correct, i've set both offset values to -100mv and i've got higher CPU scores as well as little drop in temps by 2-3C! I tried to OC my CPU in XTU a little more but all i was able to achieve was to set 3-4 core to x37 multi, but the results were not worth it.
     
  28. ryzeki

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    it can pass it but it will be downclocking as soon as it hits 92 haha. I have such hot temps here that i once went through 93 as I was downclocking :)
     
  29. Johnksss

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    Not sure how well your setup holds the temps down, but the m18x it runs pretty cool for the "most" part.
    You will how ever need at least a 240W psu. Or run a dual setup. 180/180 or 240/240.
    These cards can pull at least 160W given the right psu and temp threshold. As you seen earlier in this thread where i was gaming on a single 780 at like 1.1 ghz, but with out the right vbios/psu and temps under control or in other cases where the bios is at fault. One will have major hurtles to over come before getting to the meat of things.
     
  30. J.Dre

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    Anyone else seeing pretty low FPS in Company of Heroes 2? The game must not be optimized.

    Crysis 3 runs fine. A good 30+ FPS, with some drops into the 20's every now and then.
     
  31. D2 Ultima

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    There be the john person I was talking about. He came as we called him, I see =P,
     
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    I got X2716 @ 3Dmark 2011. Thought it was little. but to my suprise its good. feelsgoodman.jpg

    from my P157S
     
  33. Cakefish

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    Am I right in thinking the desktop equivalent of the GTX 780M is the GTX 760 - in terms of performance?

    I've looked around the interwebs and it seems that both the reference GTX 760 desktop card and the GTX 780M score ~5500 in the Firestrike 3DMark 2013 test.
     
  34. Meaker@Sager

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    Not tweaked yes, but due to the larger core you will get more fps per mhz from the 780m.
     
  35. nerdstaz

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    Posted in the wrong thread! Ooops. Move along...
     
  36. ryzeki

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    It's more in line with GTX660ti I believe, a stock 780m scores around 5100 firestrike.
     
  37. D2 Ultima

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    The reason a 780M stock is similar to a 660Ti stock is because the 660Ti has enough of a core clock (though slightly less cores) that it gives better RAW graphics performance than the 780M, but since the memory on the 780M is a little bit better, they balance out. If you OC the 780M to match say a 680's clocks, then a 660Ti won't catch up.
     
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    Hey buddy,
    This was achieved with a 1070/3000 overclock on the 780M, and the 4800mq OC'ed to 3.9ghz on 4 cores.
     
  41. Cakefish

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    Woah. That's... impressive!

    So if it's the equivalent of a GTX 660 Ti /GTX 760, depending on the clock speeds, I'm guessing it'll be OK for most of The Witcher 3's amazing effects and PhysX wolf fur? Or is that being too optimistic?
     
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    How are the temps on that overclock? and is it stable enough to play games on?
     
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    Those clocks are an OC'd GTX 680
     
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    got 5106 on Default Fire Strike

    and

    Fire Strike Extreme 25xx(i forgot the results) cant load them for some reason.

    from my P157SM@ GTX 780m and i7-4700MQ
     
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    could someone be kind enough to upload the modded Vbios for the GTX780M on their Dropbox etc so that people like me can download it?

    I opened an account on Techinferno but it wants me to have at least 5 posts before I can download..!

    Thanks in advance guys! :)
     
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    How about you go download it from here
    NVIDIA Kepler VBIOS mods - Overclocking Editions, modified clocks, voltage tweaks
    Like everyone else. :)

    Make 5 real post and then download the file.
     
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    +135 core/+624 mem. Max temp 85°C.

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