nVidia's Forthcoming Mobile GPU Answer: GLM5 2GB GDDR5?

For the record, I don't have a preference between ATi and Nvidia. You quite clearly prefer ATi. At this point your just making things up.

I'll rephrase my previous statement so you can understand.

Nvidia currently has the fastest desktop chip.

 

Yep, the fastest single GPU card at the moment. Though It really shines with sli it seems, as it gets a sizable advantage.

The 480M will be very good, even though it will consume power like crazy for a single card, its performance is on par with its consumption of power.

 

...it's performance is on par with it's consumption? A GTX 480 is ~10-15% faster than a 5870, while drawing almost 60% more power (298W vs 188W full-tilt). How is that even close to on par?

It may be the fastest, but it is only that way because it is factory overclocked to heck and back, and is a GIGANTIC die. It is not because of superior engineering.

 

as if Desktop gaming computer builders acutally care about power draw? Last I checked, Gigawatt PSU's were fairly common place. superior engineering? You mean considering Neither company has had a significant breakthrough since R600 or G80?

 

fastest single gpu card. chip is huge though.
if this mobile fermi is actually fermi based, it will be based on GF104, midrange stuff.
GF100 is not good at all when it comes to performance/watt, which matters in laptops.

maybe in the winter lol.

 

We're not talking about mobile gpus though..

 

i am, and you should too.

 

the point is... that the discussion(see post #149) which has continued to this point was concerning Desktop GPU's. 480M is still an unknown at this point. You can't discuss guesses. Unless you're looking for what the M17X CF5870 thread is. If that's the case by all means, continue. Thanks for the suggestion btw, I'll take it under advisement.

 

Honestly this power consumption stuff matters to some people and doesn't at all to others. Considering my next laptop is going to be a huge desktop replacement that will be plugged in all the time (unless I'm moving to a new outlet), I could care less about power consumption, I'll take the marginally better performance. I would've liked to see a more powerful ATi in the M11x instead of the GT 335m though.

I do generally agree with you that ATi is far ahead though. When I had an 8600m GT and a 3670, the 3670 stayed twenty to thirty degrees Celsius cooler.

 

exactly.. who in their right minds decides they're going to buy a multiple GPU laptop and then expect 3hours battery life?

 

Oh, but I clearly specified the Mobile variant. Not the desktop one. And I was comparing it to previous G92 core.

 

Well atm there is not much that can be done, i mean if it heats... let it be, if it drain battery let it be, if it needs huge brick so be it. I just want something new... and not a G92 refresh. I have dealt with heat in the past, i dont care about battery life.... but i want to play games the way are meant to be (its joke btw), certainly looking forward for something that pushes ati to release their new line when 6XXX desktop/mobile series are released probably at years end, so if Nvidia dont push something out then ATI might just stay the way it is.

 

Yesterday, I saw that the new gtx 480M offering up 897 gigaflops but i return on nvidia website today and oddly it offer only 598 gigaflops. So this card will be less powerful than the quadro FX 3800M (648 gigaflops) and of course the ati 5870M (1120 gigaflops but it's another architecture). We must see the benchmark for confirm that but how disappointing this new fermi GPU!!!

 

Gflops is only one measure of performance and doesn't really mean much in the grand scheme of things. I guarantee you, the GTX 480M will be faster than the GTX 280M/285M/FX 3800M and possibly even the HD 5870.

 

There's too many live threads on this.....

 

Yes but not a lot especially again the FX 3800M who has already a TDP of 100W. So if I carry on my refection: the ati 5870 offer 2720GFLOPS and the 5870M offer 1120GFLOPS so it represent about 41.1%. For nvidia gtx 480 has1344.96GFLOPS and the gtx 480m 598.4GFLOPS it's represent 44.5%. So finally the GTX 480M will beat the 5870M of 13%. It is less than I expected for a price of 800$ while the 4870M cost about 400$. You have all the prices here :Clevo x7200 .
And It should be remembered than the ati has a TDP of 60W and the GTX 480M 100W. It also important for a laptop. And if you would like more power I guess it possible to overlock the 5870M more easily than the nvidia with 100W

 

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