Any comparable benchmarks for P7811FX and P6860FX?

Hi guys, I'm trying to decide a gaming laptop between P7811FX and P6860FX. I know that P7811FX is supposed to be the replacement for P6860FX, but how much improvement does P7811FX offer? Is there 3DMark06 scores for both of them that's comparable? (same resolution for instance)

I got an offer from a friend for an used P6860FX for 1000 bucks. So if the difference in performance is not that great, I would be tempted to go for a P6860FX instead.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

It's not worth buying the 6860. It has a 8800m GTS, 1440x900 resolution. The only advantage it has is that it has Bluetooth.

The 7811 FX's 1080p resolution, 9800m GTS (which beats the 8800m GTX). Performance wise, it's worth the $100 premium over a brand new 6860.

 

THe performance is very similar but the new machines come with some nice upgrades that could cost you more or around the same amount down the road if you so chose to upgrade certain things on your machine . Faster CPU 2.2ghz vs 1.8 on the 6860 1920x1200 Screen vs 1440x900 screen on the 6860. The 7811 has a 1066mhz fsb vs the 667 on the 6860
200gig 7200rpm drive vs 320gig 5400rpm on the 6860 which is more of a downgrade to many cause the performance is not big enough compared to the space you lose . So those are the differences good luck.

 

Correction: The 9800m GTS doesn't beat out the 8800m GTX. The 9800m GT, which is the step up from the GTS, is equivalent to a 8800m GTX.

 

I'm actually glad I got a 6860 instead of waiting for the 7811. I like the 1440x900 resolution and think it's ideal for the video card in the system. I think the higher resolution on the 7811 makes it slightly weaker for gaming, with only a slightly faster video card. This is just based on some early reviews and things I've read in various forums and such. Plus I'm basing it on performance of the desktop video cards, which may not transfer over to the mobile chips exactly.

I would say though, that if you look for benchmarks, look for them at the default res of each system. That's ideally what you'll want to run games at anyway, so there's no need to run them in the same resolution to see which is fastest at that res. Personally, I run every game possible at the native res for my screen and that's the numbers I want to know.

BTW, I'll admit up front I may be wrong about the higher res of the 7811 making it slightly slower for gaming. If you disagree, please do so with benchmarks run at the native res of both systems. I'll happily admit I'm wrong in the face of actual numbers...

 

3Dmark06 anyone? Could someone post 3dmark 06 numbers for the P7811. I would be interested in seeing how much improvement there is over the 6860. As for the higher resolution of the screen; I had a Xps gen2, that had 1920x1200 resolution and there were very few things that I could play at that resolution (mostly much older games). I believe that is still the case on the 7811 machine with todays top games. But, if the viewing angle is better than the p6860 that would be nice and it's nice to have the flexibility of many resolutions, witch I'm sure the P7811 has over the P6860.
Seanno

P6860/4gig ram/t9300

 

i would like to see benchmark of 7811fx and 6860fx with same CPU.
Of course 7811fx will score higher in 3dmark06 due to CPU.

I like 7811fx with new 7200rpm drive and high res lcd.
Waiting for someone with 7811fx and 6860fx to run 3dmark06 and benchmark of games(or someone with 7811fx run with t9300 and compare 6860fx score with t9300)

 

I just cant agree with you about the screen. I think the screen sucks.

I love my machine I got it for cheap. But that 1440 x 900 screen is low quality. Not any different from a low end dell or anything, its just the same screen.
Its the lowest grade 17 inch screen its in the bottom end acer or what have you.

Its worth hundreds just for the screen upgrade. The gpu upgrade and cpu upgrade maybe not, maybe those are worth just 100$ the hd upgrade is a downgrade.


oh ya theres no way you could play crisis at 1920 x 1200 no doubt. wuxga games would be older games like rts games.

Maybe a shot at oblivion but i doubt it.

new fps shooter games you dont usually play at that resolution any way.

 

I guess I'm just not as discerning. I like the screen just fine. Ah well, to each their own.

 

you will absolutely have to turn the setting down a bit if you play graphic intensive game at 1920*1080. it's like a trade off, but i heard games play the best when in natural resolution, not sure why though.
oh and, i have never tried a 17" 1920*1080 screen, but the 1440*900 serves me just fine.

and 9800GTS is better than 8800GTS although nobody has proved anything but it's definitely not better than 8800GTX. and one main reason that 9800gts is better than 8800gts is its extra 100 clock speed, so in other words, it just a bit better than a overclocked 8800GTS performance wise. but i think its temperature might be lower than 8800GTS.

 

Playing at anything other then the native resolution makes the image blurry around the edges. That's one of the things that kept me using a CRT for a lot longer then most folks.

 

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Go here for 6860fx laptop deal for 700.

 

From what I've read in threads around here:

stock 7811 3dmark 06: mid-8000's
stock 6860 3dmark 06: mid-7000's
t9300 6860 3dmark 06: mid-8000's

So it looks like its mostly the cpu in the 7811 that's making the biggest difference over the stock 1.83ghz in the 6860. And the 9800GTS only offers marginal improvement over the 8800GTS.

Please take what I've said with a grain of salt, they're just observations of others' experiences here... or maybe they're just justifications to calm the mind of a 6860 owner... hehe. At least I got mine on sale for $1100, and for my uses I actually prefer 1440x900 over 1920x1200 on a 17" screen.

 

Lucky you! I missed the $1099 deal and all I could talk the BB saleman/manager down to was $1249. Still, I got an awesome laptop at $100 off, so I can't complain...

 

I was roaming around the net looking for some benchmarks and found this chart, its a GPU comparison, yet i think it gives a good idea of the performance you are going to get with a 7811 and a 6860.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

+++ 1920x1200 resolution
+++ Montevina Platform utilizing 1066MHZ FSB / DDR3 Memory
+++ Significantly less power draw and heat
++ The probable ability to add a QX9300 in a few months
+ 9800M GTS (Faster before overclocking)
+ 7200RPM SATA II Seagate included
-- No Raid
- No Bluetooth


To me, the benefits heavily outweigh the cons versus the 6860FX. I wouldn't take a loss by selling your 6860 to upgrade, but certainly worth the difference in retail price if buying new.

 

With my "old" 6831-FX with a T9300 just got 8809 in 3DMark06 at 1200X800 res.

 

Ill just OC my GPU, there we go, i have an 9800m GTS I scored 9100 at 1440x900 with this bad boy, but if i was purchasing now I would go with the 7811, if you allready have a 6831 do NOT upgrade, its not really worth it.

 

This has been dead for some time.

 

with the 9800gts clocks i score 3dmark06 [email protected].
i am still waiting to see if they can o/c the 9800gts...

 

That being said, why do you need any of these?

What else are you going to be using the laptop for?

 

Invalid since they used a Q6600 processor to test the 9800m GTS.

 

What exactly are you asking? Why he needs a gaming laptop if he has a gaming rig? I have a gaming rig and I still got a 6860 so I could game on the go. Makes sense to me and obviously a few others as well...

 

"9800m GTS (which beats the 8800m GTX)"

OMG, are you serious ? How the hell would it beat it ? GTX has 96 stream processors, GTS has only 64... mathematically it is impossible for the 9800M GTS to beat 8800M GTX

 

A 9800m GTS is a re-branded 8800 GTX.So same thing

 

"OMG, are you serious?" Why didn't you read the correction a fellow member made to my post? Anyways, I was trying to say the 9800m GT edges the 8800m GTX, while the 9800m GTS overclocked can probably get really close to the 8800m GTX.

Nope, it's a rebranded 8800m GTS.

 

Its not really a rebranded anything. the 9800M GTS is built on the G94 architecture, not the G92 like the 8800M GTS. That said, the cards are essentially identical minus the clocks and some minor PCB changes.

 

This reminds me...NVidia made 9800M GTS to have 600/800/1500 for default clocks, or just Gateway Overclocked them ? If these are the original NVidia clocks, then I'm sure it can do 10.000+ points in 3Dmark06 overclocked (8800M GTS can only do 9700-9800 points in 3DMark06 with a X9000)

 

It most probably will score over 10k if OC'ed. Gateway didn't overclock anything.

 

At what res? When optimized, you should be getting 10K+ on an 8800M and an X9000@1280x800. Especially if you're overclocked to 3ghz. If the test was run at a higher res, then disregard my statement.

Example:


That was actually 253 points lower than the original test I ran due to different drivers which perform better in games but give a lower 3DM score. Stock GPU clocks.

 

Yes but the "official" resolution to compare 3DMark06 benchmarks is 1280x1024 and I get 9692 at this resolution.
(I get 10515 in 1280x800)

I see you used 1280x768...pls do another benchmark on 1280x1024, since all benchmark websites only accept this resolution

ps. I OC the GPU too.

 

Then what I said about disregarding my statement applies. There are some who use whatever the test defaults to and I was trying to clear up which res you actually ran it at.

 

wxga+ cant run 3dmark 1280x1024

 

drevan clolck your gpu 600/800/1500 and run a test@1280x800, dook why dont you join as well ?

and what about a brave soul who will try o/c his 9800gts i do not believe they will get much extra juice out of it...

 

I'm game. And yes, I'm VERY interested in a 9800gts overclock, as well.

 

Is there really much of a point (to OCing)? The only game it would be necessary for is Crysis, all others my P-173x-FX annihilates on all highs.

The extra risk isn't really worth it, it's a laptop these things get really hot without OCing...

 

Is there really a point to anything we do? We do it because we can.

 

i breathe because i have to

 

The discussion over the 7811 is getting really repetitive.

Will one of the mods please just still everything into the "Official 7811 lounge"?

 

I'm sure they'll just "still" everything right on over. Based solely on the fact that you find the discussion repetitive.

 

I now have a great tagline, thank you sir...

 

You're right, that would make it realllly easy for 7811 users to find information! Since it's all there in one spot! right? lol just messing with you, but really... the 7811 threads are broken up because they're about different topics and parts of 7811 use, give or take 2 or 3 topics which should be merged.

But if you find 7811 threads repetitive, why not just not click them?

 

That's not it. What about people searching for information on other gateway laptops?

Notebookreview needs to implement a "search in thread" function so it will easier to find the information they want in it rather than point and click on sometimes pointless articles written by some teenager asking if RAID will improve his WOW settings... -.-

 

yea, i think a mod needs to merge all these threads, like im sorry but if you open the gateway forum, you can clearly see like 6 p 7811, threads, is there really a need to start a new one? Mods rarely visit here though..

 

This would be nice (better search). You have my vote.

 

I upgraded my wifes P6860FX cpu to 2.4 and the benchmarks went up from 6632 to 8889

 

I've always wanted a search in thread, would be great. anyway, hopefully the reason for all the 7811 threads is that its in its first week released, we'll probably see that die down soon.

 

There actually is a search in thread. However, I think it's disabled along with vbulletin search until you reach 700 posts, as they are having search slowdown issues. Once the admins and mods get the problem worked out, everyone should be able to search in thread.

And, as you know from my previous avatars, I am also getting tired of the 7811fx threads, there's no doubt about that. But moving all the data into one thread without a proper search mechanism would be insane to say the least. That being said, with the proper search argument, Google search actually works pretty good for this site and seems to be almost updated in real-time.

I was thinking of creating several content-based 7811fx threads, such as "P-7811FX General Questions" and "P-7811FX Issues and Maintenance" and so forth, to which(hopefully) current threads could be broken down from 60 majillion to only a few and hopefully future threads will be reigned in and stay under control. But, who knows if this even a good idea and if people will even voluntarily follow it. Just a thought.

 

guess i got a long way to go before i can use my much missed search again

 

Heading for 700 to gain better search. No lookin' back.