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    Crisis Bios Recovery for 7805u (dead laptop) HELP!

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by ONE_J, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. Maverick79

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    Which BIOS version did you mod ONE J ?
     
  2. ONE_J

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    I modded the 9c.17, but you could do the mod with any version I guess.

    some manufacturers will tell you to use the first BIOS release of the laptops in question. which is true for one of my HP laptops. the crisis recovery will not work with a newer BIOS version, it has to be done with the first BIOS release
     
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    My 7805 came with the 9C.11 version. Crisis recovery to be done with that version or any new version will do ? i believe you used ur modded BIOS (Volt Mod GPU one) after crisis recovery. Am i right ?
     
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    yes, correct. right after I booted up into windows I didn't think it twice and flashed the BIOS but of the 9800M only not the motherboard's BIOS.

    I just used nvflash after I recovered the laptop wirh the Crisis recovery porcedure
     
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    I forgot to say: although I m not 100% sure I can say yes, any bios will do. since mine worked with 9c.17
     
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    hey guys im new to the forums but i have a p7805u fx and the same thing had happened to me. ive read thru all the posts in desperation to fix my laptop and got up to the end. i just bought a 2gb usb flash and made it bootable with the hp tool. i have also extracted the exact files one_j had said to extract. Now the problem is that im using a backup bios that i had luckily saved before this horrible incident D= but i changed that bios name to "BIOS.WPH" and along with the other two file put it into winrar and then extracted to the usb. when i plug it into the laptop and hold esc+fn and then pressing power i hear the one beep then the laptop start runnin so i believe it began flashing but then it stops then begins beeping again..... D= is there nething im doin wrong here. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
     
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    ne one out there? D= sorry but an idea of a $1k paperweight.... ugh ne helpo is appreciated thanks =D
     
  8. iaTa

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    I couldn't get a USB flash drive to work, I had to use a USB floppy drive. Then it all worked perfectly.

    Sorry for not jumping in on this earlier by the way One_J - did you get yours sorted?
     
  9. banjo

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    Try the USB outlet if facing laptop back left side upper. Found that seemed to be the one that worked for me. You also might try making a recovery cd or as iata suggested a USB floppy. ( the floppy would have to emulate 2.88MB format as the bios is larger then 1.44 MB.

    Plus the sequence of the keys is important. I think it is fn+b, plug power and press and hold the power button down. It might beep a few times but even if it doesn't seem to be doing anything don't power down for at least 10 minutes. Most times it will reboot itself. Hope this helps.
     
  10. banjo

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    By the way-what exactly do you mean you used a back-up bios for your recovery?. Phoenix bios's cannot be backed up and reused again. From what I understand, the size changes and makes it un-flashable. So down load a copy that has been already extracted and use that. Plus it sounds like your sequence is off. No power connected at all(battery removed), fn+b(hold), plug power in and press down and hold power button. If you see your USB drive flashing release and wait about 10 minutes if it doesn't re-boot itself.Then plug power, bateery and see if restarts when power button hit.
     
  11. garroq

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    ohh so thats why the bios was not working =/ i was wondering why it was only 62kbs o_O but my only problem now is i dont have a bios to DL ive tried numerous bios and i seem to be getting the wrong one. but looks like i might have to retry them with the new sequence. ive never tried the fn+b. Ive always been doing the fn+esc which seems to be workin but im just happy for the replies and new info lol. Oh and ive been using the hp tool along wit a bootme folder that i got here. and a crisis recovery file. my only question is about the crisis recovery file. is it normal for it to be clearing out everything in the usb flash? and then i extract the "Bios.whp, phlash16.exe, and the minidos.sys files?" sorry for all the questions =D oh and my email is [email protected] if u have a bios for a p7805u that would be worth trying =D very much appreciated.
     
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    oh and if its not too much trouble could anyone plz provide fresh or working links to a crisis recovery utility im afraid that the one im using is corrupt. =/ and more detailed instructions on how to do this recovery sequence lol sorry for the trouble but it seems im getting alittle meticulous because in the past 32hrs ive been doing nothing but trying and trying again and i wana play some games before my next semester comes =D thanks very much guys
     
  13. garroq

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    thanks for the email Banjo but i tried the procedure as well as the files u have provided and it did not work D= i did everything as saod and even tried some variants and yea not working. I still get the 1 beep then a long pause then two more.... so yea if anyone else can provide information it is again much appreciated.
     
  14. Maverick79

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    Tried contacting OneJ ?
     
  15. garroq

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    shud i just pm him? it looks like hes been away for awhile
     
  16. garroq

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    is there anyway to kno if my laptop is flashin the new bios in??
     
  17. Maverick79

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    Try page 5 of this thread for b166 e-mail id. Ask him if he could help you out.
     
  18. banjo

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    How are you making out? Get it working? I haven't heard from OneJ yet. LYK when I do.
     
  19. garroq

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    not making out good at all everything ive tried has failed lol but pretty much all ive tried is the usb thumbdrive flashing method. im starting really wana give and just buy a new laptop or build a rig =/ has neone tried crisis method with a cd i think thats what im gonna do next. if u guys can provide info with that that would be great
     
  20. Golecom

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    Hello people. I hope a made it in time. I found how to make the bios rom fit a normal 1.44 floppy disk. When you download the Crisisdisk creating tools there is a file named "Wincris.exe" the only thing you have to do y check the option "Compress the bin file" this will make bios.wph smaller (about 864k), and after that the disk will be ready to go. I tested it on my Acer Aspire 5536, and in about 4 minutes the was booting windows. XD
     
  21. garroq

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    Golecom i dont see what your talking about. my wincris.exe does not have that option =/
     
  22. eduardo100

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    once open leave everything the way it is, don't change anything and hit start to start creating partition for the USB drive.
    ????
    wincris, attempts to format de floppy driver, not the usb pen

    thanks
     
  23. garroq

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    u need to right click wincris.exe and run as administrator then you may be able to switch it to usb pen =)
     
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    I was able to recover a bad flash on my Gateway P-7805u using THESE instructions. NOTE that I was able to successfully boot and flash using the CRISIS Phoenix ROM mode using a USB flash drive. This is required, as the newer flashes are larger than 1.44MB, even when using compression with WINCRIS. WINCRIS, even when compression is selected, will still fail when trying to perform this on a USB floppy disk.

    Hope that helps some folks. BTW, I don't think ONE_J's assumptions about it being the video BIOS corrupted is correct, as I had the same problem (one long, pause, then two short beeps). Before I disconnected the CMOS battery (behind the wireless PCIe-x1 card), the laptop would boot, then shutdown, then power back up, and never try to read from USB or floppy disks. After I removed the CMOS battery, then I was able to power-on laptop using Fn-ESC (didn't press power button), and it immediately starting loading from the floppy or USB flash drive.

    Hope that helps others reading this thread, as it is quite confusing and took me several hours to go through a combination that worked.
     
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    guys i have the same bad flash, and doing trial and so much error. i used crcd almost 10 times now.. but its become worse.

    now when i plug the power cable, the power button is blinking. when i pressed it, the laptop turns on with a dead screen.
    the gpu and cpu fan spins, but no led of the play pause stop etc button next to the power button. and its odd because the wifi led is turned on even if i switched it off! and its now no beeping. damn im sooooo sad and messed up :(

    i suppose this has to do with cmos battery too? please reply ASAP! thanks guys.. help me out of this hell situatiooon!!
     
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    can anybody help me? still no luck. theres no beeps the gpu seems like turned on, and the weird blinking of the power button.
    i tried to flash again with Fn+Esc+Power it cant be done because the power still blinking. i think its cmos problem, what do u think?
    and actually i dont know how to remove cmos battery in p7805u, so please tell me someone..
     
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    help meeeeee pleaseeeeeeeeeee! ONE_J has the exact same problem so i think i should have solved this.. but sadly ive been stuck for frustrating 3 days! :( :(
     
  28. Maverick79

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    Did you PM OneJ ?
     
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    you know what, ive been flashing with iATA bios.. whati got is my power button is blinking everytime i plug the power cable. when i press the power button, its still blinking but cpu and gpu is on (i heard the fan is at full speed both of them) and the wi-fi icon is on. i think this is must be cmos problem but i dont know how to remove the battery.

    so please guide me and this is my email [email protected]

    oh yeah maverick ive pmed him, but its like he's been away
     
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    Can anybody pleaseee help me??
     
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    Anybodyy pleasseeer

    Herr it is, I've prepared all the files needed for flashing.. But the problem is now bigger than bad flash. My laptop won't enter crisis mode and read from usb flash disk. Its so frustrating, the power button just blinking with the cpu fan spinning and wifi led on. How to get rid of this and go back to the POST beeps like before?

    Thx
     
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    Did you use my technique to get into CRISIS mode? I posted a link if you go up before your posts. Here it is again. Note that you have to remove the CMOS battery, under the wireless card. There are only two removable panels, one for HDD and one for wireless and the extra PCIe-x1 card slot.

    Before removing the CMOS battery, I could not get the laptop to enter CRISIS mode at all, so this cannot be skipped.

    Hope that helps!
     
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    is your problem the same wit mine? Blinking power button with speeding up cpu and gpu?
    How long did u take the cmos battery out before starting it up again? I've tried removing the cmos for 2 minutes and plug the power in but the result is the same blinking power. Do I have to remove anything else, or remove the cmos longer? Thanks
     
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    Anyoone pleasee help, albester pls reply again! My badflash is more complex than yours or one_j's :(
     
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    I had removed it altogether (just remove connector) during the entire CRISIS operation. You can leave it unplugged until you have recovered your BIOS. No need to unplug/replug unnecessarily. The connector is very fragile and won't take too many of these unplug/plug cycles. I unplugged it for 30 seconds and then began the process.

    So with that in mind, had you tried my suggestions on the website? I.e., creating USB thumbdrive boot and plugging in power (battery removed)? I can't recall if Fn+ESC is required but I did it anyway.

    If any of the steps in the aforementioned URL are left out, the recovery will not work.

    1) Did you create the USB thumbdrive as I stated, using the files specified?
    2) Did you hear the beeping in the sequence stated?
    3) I don't recall the power button blinking, I think it just immediately powered up upon powering the laptop via switch, and then immediately began reading from the USB thumbdrive.
    4) I don't recall removing the Wifi card but it wouldn't hurt in doing so. Just BE SURE that you keep the two antenna wires from touching anything, as they can short something on your motherboard.

    What you are saying about the power slowly flashing reminds me of when I tried CRISIS without removing the CMOS battery under the wireless adapter. I assume you removed the laptop main battery too?

    I can't entirely recall but I think I removed the HDDs as well. It wouldn't hurt to remove everything unnecessary and easily removable. I left the DDR2 memory on-board though.
     
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    i did hear the beeping, but now its not there anymore. it was 3 beeps, 1 long 2 shorts.

    the situation now the machine powers up, the fan spins, just like a normal laptop. but the wifi led sign is on and the power button blinking, of course dead screen also.

    i have made the thumbdrive just like your instruction, with win xp x86. but the only problem now it cant enter crisis mode. i have removed the cmos battery but the result is the same.

    the thing that must be identified is why does the power button blinking, the machine powers up and the wifi sign is on??

    pls reply again mate, u are the guru :)
     
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    Thanks for the praise, I don't know if I am the guru but I had nearly considered sending my 7805u into Gateway and paying the $200 fee for them to use CRISIS (essentially). It was only when I stumbled upon the right combination of creation of the CRISIS recovery media.

    Is the USB drive even initialized or loading attempted? Do you see any activity lights blinking on the USB drive when you plug in the power or when you turn on the power to the power supply when using a power strip? I suspect that too large a USB flash drive (i.e., 2GB) may not work, which is why I used a 128MB. I don't think some weird combination like a compact flash in a media reader will work (I tried it and it didn't work). A floppy wouldn't work because of the BIOS file size.

    This is an interesting site: HERE
     
  38. TANWare

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    Power button blinking is usually an indicaton of a power issue. the CMOS batter and laptop battery need to be disconnected. if the power button still blinks only then the system doesn't seem to be seeing the needed power to run.

    From there if you plug the power while the laptop has it's battery in does the power light up front light? If so what color, meaning is it charging, charged or doing nothing?
     
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    Ok now I realized that it must be power issue because I've flashed it with albester's guide before the issue happens. I assume that the bios is now fine but the power isn't.
    Mr tanware, I've disconnected both of the battery but still blinking.. Then when I try to charge, the indicator light still of like not charging. Its not even reading from the usb. What is the problem then?
     
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    If with power off and the battery and AC brick plugged in you are not charging the battery then you have other issues to first address. It could be your brick but also could be the power board. The cheapest and easiest to address is the brick. So look into that first and see if you can find a friend with a compatible brick and try that out.

    The original bricks for the P78xx's are infamouse for either being bad or dropping out........

    Edit; I am sure the battery did not loose charge in one sitting, So all the bios flashing while the impending power failure was due too happen any time could have bricked the machine as well..........
     
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    hmm.. im sorry but i dont really understand, so you mean what is broken? then whats the solution?

    what caused my problem? because im pretty sure bios is fine now, ive flashed it with albester's guide
     
  42. TANWare

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    One step at a time, get a brick and try it out. If this gets the power back and you still can't boot it may be during one of the crysis recoveries the power went mid flash. So if it doesn't boot then try the crysis recovery one more time.............
     
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    May want to get some kind of universal travel adapter, be sure it can output 19V and 120W (6.32A). Then at least you can use it on your next laptop just in case :)

    I've seen some of these adapters on Ebay for around $30 I think.
     
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    I was just hoping they had a friend with a compatible addapter, I know I'm cheap. At least this way he could try it out. My first stock addapter was a no go from the start. Funny though it would cut out with the P7805 but I had a laptop that used a stock 60w addapter with the same plug it worked fine with.

    Albest is corect, the output and polarity are extremely important. Over amperage is ok but the 6.3 or above should be followed as these things are beasts on the PSU.............
     
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    Hmm so you mean my ac power adaptor is broken? But when its on battery the result still blinking power. So I don't think that the problem is there. But your thought about mid flash might be true.

    I think its the powet board. Can it be replaced? I've taken it to a technician, not the gateway one because I know it will be expensive
     
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    The power "MAY" be blinking as the battery never recieved a proper charge from the last time and fudged the flash. Again this may not be the issue just something to try. The bad brick could have also taken out the power board, all that many more issues.

    It seems though you are in the realm of contacting gateway for a repair though. Your issues are mounting and it seems the more you try the deeper you get yourself in. At this point you may be in irreversable damage terratory as I have little hope in the brick helping you out. Again if it is free to try it is something to try.......
     
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    Any updates to this? I have the beep, beep beep. I changed the video card device id and flashed it. I have tried sever times to load the bios back in. It makes a series of beeps like its flashing the bios. The fans turn on. The beeping changes frequency. It then reboots on its own. And Beep, Beep Beep.
     
  48. AlBester

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    I could only get the CRISIS recovery to work if I first removed the CMOS battery (under wireless card) for about a minute and then reinstalled. This is of course with the power cord disconnected from the laptop.
     
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    Feel sory for you, I'm just so happy I haven't needed this thread........
     
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    hey just do the trick from stevensmith2000 on andros' thread, page 8 or 9.. it works
     
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