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    Gateway P FX series GTX 260m motherboard 225$

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by niffcreature, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. Lum-X

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    The port is different from the old motherboard. the port on the new motherboard looks like sata but with smaller power connector. i will post a pics later.

    Nope im using the latest PB bios. i might give a shot to Gateway to see if things will get fixed. M touch pad does not work because my sis spilled some water on ti long time ago so i might disconnect it and see if that will resolve something this weekend if i don't have competitions.

    The rest is working very nice no hangups no USB power. everything is just great and i just disabled the page-in file and its working even better.

    I found this CPU to buy and it looks cheap. OK i changed cause i found an OEM http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Intel-C...CPU-/260903520674?pt=CPUs&hash=item3cbf0fc9a2

    I will post more benchmarks soon. crysis 3dmark 06 and i WIC and i will thing of something else since i might sell the CPU and get a X9100. :D

    I just tried winflash64 and it id not work. i will give it a shot again. from DOS
     

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    The problem is the board shares the IRQ 16 with nVidia, firewire (1394) and O2 Micro. If the card reader does not recognise the firewire will no share the resource and there is the problem. you need to get these two drivers to co-operate..................
     
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    i will try to find the driver tonight for the firewire (1394), even though i still get the stupid error on post and i have to pres f1 to continue. there is no option to ignore errors in bios and that sucks. :S

    nope its still the same and it takes like 6-7mins to boot windows. What im thinking is to disable, lift a pin of a chip from the motherboard of the firewire or the card reader. and i hope that will fix. Its either a faulty hardware or something is wrong because im getting int at post boot and that sucks a lot.
     
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    ok if still bios error try this, you will know it has worked when windows boots and has to reinstall hardware;

    On ac power up but immediately press and hold the power for it to shut down. It needs to shut down before the DST posts. When it does on the next power up it will tell you on the splash screen "DST Table Failure" then it will reassign the IRQ's etc. on that power up................

    Edit; the problem may be these boards were pulled from working systems with other hardware. You need the DST to recognize your new configuration and you may need to do this again once you get a working DVD......................
     
  5. Lum-X

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    I will try since it does not have a power button connector on the motherboard :S. i will try tonight after school and training.

    i might have to take the connector from the old motherboard and solder it on this one.

    and the bios sucks here. my temps are at GPU 33, CPU0 14 and CPU1 at 34 but the fans are at 100$ !!!!!!

    i might give a shot and try to update to gateway bios.

    will post in after 5 hours when i get back :p

    EDIT; i could not do anything to reset the DST without the power button. I trued holding the ribon on top of the solder but i was out of luck. :S i will see what i can do to reset the stupid DST
     
  6. TANWare

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    Another way is too boot under battery only. Before the DST posts pull the battery connection.................
     
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    im gonna try it tonight after i finish with the practical
     
  8. niffcreature

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    Damn!

    Well I'm glad this is working enough for you and I'm sorry I can't help with these specifics, but amazing that you guys take it that far. I would have just been like, "POSTS, nice!"

    Strange about the power connector but I guess you got lucky with those media buttons. Is it a difference of the power board itself across the different series? Like the newer ones connect with 1 less connector..?

    For the fan, maybe you have a different outdated fan and will want to get a new one. Otherwise maybe you should solder a resistor between the red wire to get them at 50% or so. Then get a switch to bypass the resistor. Monitor your temps at all times etc.

    Sorry about the mSATA DVD drive, I could have realized it would be different and mentioned it to you, also of course a windows installation will only boot to the same chipset it was installed on.

    BUT here you have provided me with amazing info, a Linux installation will boot to multiple chipsets! :D this is very handy.

    Good luck with your button & fan. Might want to update your signature. :)
     
  9. Lum-X

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    Yes i will update my signature now and i am thinking to mod the bios to unhide not unlock (since it will require writing hex code that i dont have time going through all those reading) other options that are hidden since the bios is very limited, it does not have even quite boot option.
    Ok that resource conflict is very annoying but its Ok since its turning on and off and i can't get it fixed no matter what even that i tried to take off the battery on boot without CMOS battery connected.

    The temps are good except for TZS0 that goes above 90.

    As for the FANS they are ok, only the GPU fan wont start sniping until the GPU goes to 80 then it will coll it down to 40 and then stop when i am not using the GPU, but when i play its ok as soon as i start the game even if its at 50 it will start pushin the air to cool it down :p. I still have to try furMark os something similar.

    For the power button i will find someone who can solder it the connector from the old motherboard :p since i places the ribbon on top of the solder and depending how i was applying pressure on the connectors the power button light was on and off but i was causing short circuits and the laptop was shutting down so i stopped.

    I played some skyrim today and the temps ware about 70-75. the only thing that went up was the TZS0 91C and TZS1 78C.

    I have to charged the battery for a mm 5-6 weeks that i was without laptop and not shows that 36% is the wear level also after almost 4 years of having the laptop.

    as for media bar its working without problems also the USB. the razer, i even tried a usb3 stick and it was working without a problem. Today i used for the whole day the SoundBlaster.

    So far its very good and i hope it will keep up like this.

    as for Linux especially Gentoo i was very surprised since i have made and compiled it only for the previous laptop. i guess the CPU matters more than chipset also what you compile with what architecture, instruction sets. you cant make a kernel only for core2 architecture to work for i686 where us vice verse you can because i686 produces binary code taht is general for all i686 CPU and core2 is specific. Nvidia driver detected the 260m and it was working very stable also.

    As for drivers when you compile the kernel you chose the drivers for intel chpsets and that includes all chipset, or audio drivers for example all i needed is just to add the realtek driver module and initialize it with ALSA to make the audio work. since i will get an SSD i have to instal Gentoo again.

    I just hope it will keep up and i can sell the X9000 and get a X9100.

    With RW-Everything i can read all 3 devices taht are causing the conflict. they are all relatid to stupid O2 controller.
     

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    Ok i fixed everything.
    1. I disabled the devices.
    2. Reinstalled the drivers with disabled drivers.
    3. Restarted the PC.
    4. Enabled just the firewire 1394 and i saw it was not showing an error.
    5. I did my first standby today and i saw that it tool like 2 mins to turn on Black Screen, even the LCD was off
    6. I enabled the PCI device and it started installing the driver
    7. I enabled the SD card reader
    8. Restarted the PC and the conflict in post is gone.

    A lot of weird things happens but what i have no idea. Im happy that now i can restart the PC and leave it to boot without parent supervision( The user :p )

    I ordered a 128 gig Crucial M4 SSD today and i will get in before 23. I will do some benchmarks with x9000 because the rams are at 800Mhz and we can see what we gain if we have more memory bandwidth. If i can sell my x9000 and get a x9100 will be great. i might update also the screen to 1200p after new year but time will tell us :wub:

    Benchmarks are as follow.
    SiSoftware Sandra 2012, all CPU tests and memory.

    Note all the games that i will bench will have the same settings
    Highest no AA and AF @1440x900 and low @800x600.

    CRYSIS 1.2.1 GPU and CPU
    PC mark 06,
    F1 2011,
    World In Conflict,
    Because i don't have a CD-Rom i cant promise anything or the dates when i will do the benchmarks and i have them at Home at Kosovo but i believe pcmark and Sandra will show a lot.
     

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    I was looking at the DSDT to fix the GPU fan problem that it wont start spinning when the temps goes at 80 it will start cooling it and it will stop when the GPU reaches 40. This is then its idle but when i play it starts even at 50 to cool the GPU. The temps are so far good only with fur-mark i managed to push the GPU beyond 85. gaming its below 80, about 75-70.

    I tried to compile DSDT with iASL and i got all those errors :p

    Microsoft ASL is not giving errors but i read that it is more tolerant to errors but Intel has the best on and the hardest one to work with because of being strict. Fixable errors just more knowledge :p

     
  12. TANWare

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    you want the DST to start posting but no complete. This causes the DST failure. With the power off trick holding the power button it takes about 10 seconds for the ATX compliant system to force the shut down from the time you hold the power button itself. Go to bios end disable the quiet post and this will allow you to thee the DST posting. so just before the F1 prompt (the DST conflict) is when you need to pull the power.

    This could take several attempts to get it right. Again you will know when it does as at bios level post it will advise (quickly on screen) that the DST table failed posting...................
     
  13. Lum-X

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    no no the conflict is fixed. but i was looking at DSDT and it has errors. everythign now is OK. and the PB bios does not give you the option to enable and disable the quiet boot. that sucks a lot but for now i wont complain. I will get the SSD next week and i will instal linux and windows and i will see how linux will work. The DSDT has errors but its ok.

    This link is from Gentoo wiki for more info about DSDT
    ACPI/Fix common problems - Gentoo Linux Wiki

    You can also try and see how many errors you have in DSDT of gateway bios.
     
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    Hi guys, so I bought this motherboard and upgrading from a P-7811u was really easy! All worked great, I used Driver Genious Pro edition to find all the drivers and had no problem whatsoever. I would like to thank TANWare, niffcreature and Lum-X for the help! Happy new year guys, thanks.

    PS. Lum-X, I went to packard bell support site and I was thinking of flashing the BIOS of iPower GX M, version PB10E1.P11. Did you do that?
     
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    Yeah, easy change over you just have to take your time. While it doesn't make the machine a super high end gamer the upgrade for the price is well worth it IMHO. A new system such as a G74 would run 1,800 for about a 4 year system, shorter gaming life. Even at that you are talking $450 a year, so for $225 if it extends life of the system 6 months it is worth it...........
     
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    TANWare, would you recommend this power supply: Prudent Way

    I found it difficult to get a targus 180w in Ireland so in my eyes this looks promising.
     
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    I can't speak for the quality as I am not familiar with the unit but the spec's are a go by that link...........
     
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    Ahemm..

    Yeah, no time, so I took the lazy way out with the $1k tosh :eek: I like the G74 cooling but not for the price, The BB models have the gimped 560m :mad:

    When time permits, i'll keep tabs to bend my FX into the FX Phoenix :)
     
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    Yeah the cheap way, I go for the full out system, 3d etc. I have the money to buy an all out Sager but I just couldn't resist pushing my budget system to the brink of melt down first................ :)
     
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    Hell, when it can do 9/10 of what the all out system can do...why spend the extra cash? But hey, I am cheap. Being a steward of economics, I hate going past the "Point of Diminishing Returns."
     
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    9/10? of what? Mean full blown Clevos, while expensive, are awesome. But for the price, I will never spend more than $1100 for any laptop. Unless i win the Lotto.

    I came real close to getting a desktop because we know what you can get for $1K and upgrading is easy..but that is no fun, no? :D
     
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    The 7811fx board I just installed was getting up to 100c and I knew something wasn't right. Figured it was the wimpy 6831fx fan and my old Antec 6 TIM.

    I went to a local eBay company (didn't want to pay shipping) and bought a P79 series GPU cooler since it is MUCH beefier than the original and found out that they had the P79 board to match it.

    I bit the bullet and got a P7908 motherboard. Brand new system pull.

    The P7811FX board that psyauto hooked me up with worked great. But I decided that I wanted to be done getting inside this thing and just get the best I could get and not worry about it again.

    The cooling results with the newer style fan and the Antec 7 TIM I bought is astounding. I get up to 63c at the most under full load now with much higher settings on The Witcher.

    I can honestly say that this revision of the board, same as the PB one everyone in this thread has bought, is just the best one they ever put out. Everything works great and it is plenty quick.

    Thanks to everyone!
     
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    Yeah, these boards are nice. The 260m is a much better GPU over all...........
     
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    For clarification; you had the 6831 but gutted it and replaced with the 7908 board?

    This board has the 260m? What about media bar/power button?

    Sorry, trying to take notes.

    If you don't mind, what do you figure your total upgrade cost were..like $400? Did you go with the x9100?

    Big thanks for your posts! +1
     
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    Anyone still around this thread? I have a dead 7805 I was going to get worked on, but it looks like for a few extra dollars I can convert to p79. What about this mobo here: Gateway P-7908U P-7915U P-7901 55.4FE01.011 Motherboard MB.WEU01.001 | eBay

    Is that about what you guys paid for yours? I don't know why but I miss my FX and I have this broken one just begging to be fixed, so anyone's input would be appreciated. It's not every day I spend $260.
     
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    yep, it will work fine. Again beware of USB devices with high poll rates as it is a known issue with P79 boards......................
     
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    I'm thinking I'm going to have to get that mobo too pretty sure its hopeless for me to try and fix my computer now. the one the OP posted in the link is that what is in my computer now? [​IMG]
     
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    What system do you have now? have you made any changes to it?
     
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    Anyone have a source for the gpu heatsink/fan for a 7908?
     
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    P-7908u ( refurbished) which is why i think its not the original mobo
     
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    Refurb may then explain the reasons for your issues..............................
     
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    Probably haha, it worked fine for the two years ive had it. Just hope i can get the money for a new mobo soon and find one at a decent price
     
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    I really have to wonder if this is a worthy upgrade? Picking up the board and a new heatsink would be close to $250 after shipping.

    Still way cheaper than a new lappy. LOL
     
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    It counts on what you want out of the system. Having a 1920x1200 screen and wanting to keep it makes the choice a no brainer...............
     
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    Well, if nobody has a link, does anyone have the part # or pic, so I know what to look for?
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    OK so today in the morning I got the first BIG problem with the Packard Bell iPOWER GX N10 motherboard that I bought.

    Last night I was working something on my dissertation and everything worked OK. Today in the morning when I try to turn the laptop on I have a black screen and some weird behavior.

    There are some things that I noticed that are unusual and it seems like an issue with some HP DV9000.

    At first in the morning I had “power cycles” and the laptop went on and off for severalty short period of times. Now when I turn on the laptop 2 fans start spinning fast for a brief moment and then CPU fan spins at normal speed but now the GPU fan stops and the screen won’t turn on at all (you notice when the screen backlit is turned on and then the POST splash pops out). I managed to get it work once but putting the laptop in the fridge for 1h and after few tries of trying to make it work without removing the CMOS battery (just turning it on and off) it worked but it worked for a very short time and until the screen went off and now I have only black screen with no power cycles and even if I remove all RAM there is no beep. The CPU fan spins and the CPU heats up a lot and you see that when you touch the heatpipe and that’s it so far. Putting it in fridge again didn’t do the trick again.
    According to dmesg in Linux everything was fine when I got the laptop to work for those few minutes.
    Removing the CMOS battery wont help so the only thing that I suspect is the BIOS is corrupted or something is really wrong. Now I don’t have a USB since im not at home to try and do a blind flash.
    Almost forgot that if I use only battery then if I plug the AC the battery will start to charge and I don’t think this is a GPU issus.
    The link HP issue:
    Laptop turns on off on off on off--wont stop!! - Page 6 - HP Support Forum
     
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    It looks as if the board is the cousin of ours, or visa versa. since you get no bios screen the DMI is most likely failing. This could also be a bad HDD or Optical drive. Try removing them and see if you get to at least the bios. I recomend this as you claim to think it is not the GPU. Now if you were previously OC'ng the GPU or memory it easily could be they have just given up. The 260m is well known for easily being burnt out by being over zealous.................
     
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    Double post...............
     
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    I have removed everything even wifi its just the motherboard and necessary things to boot. my hope is to try and blind flash it with usb because i dont have a sata cdrom and if you remember that i dont have a power button and i turn on the laptop with the media button.

    so my last hope is when i get home in 2-3 days i will try to blind flash it if i wont find a usb here, if i cant try to solder the power button jack and see what i can do. if those wont work find a sata cdrom and try again to blind flash. if not i guess a new laptop. and u guess i just lost the money for galaxy s3 that i saved the whole summer.

    EDIT: i never did overclock the gpu. i have the old T550 cpu i will also try that too see what is going on. if i ca at least use the laptop for another few months. I just dont know what to do, i guess i had bad luck with this laptop that i had so many problems

    There is one thing also if its worth of buying another motherboard or just get a new laptop. Gateway P-7811FX Motherboard 4006287R MB.W050B.007 MB.W050B007 55.4i201.021 | eBay
     
  42. TANWare

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    You had mentioned the battery showed it was charging. If so then most likely it is not the power board. The cpu, if gone, could cause your issue as well. It is not required for the charging circuit but as you had mentioned it would just start up the fans and then quit. I think blind flash only works with the USB, not too sure though. Make sure it is not the CPU before attempting the blind flash though......................
     
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    I dont have a screw drive with me to change the CPU. Its very weird how everything happened so fast and i have no clue. i believe that the board is good (it shows the purple light that the battery is chargin, it stops when is charged) but im afraid if the CMOS is corrupted or the chipset is broken. as for the GPU i know its OK because when the gpu is broken it will eather beep of boot and the lcd backlit will turn on.

    here nothing is working and now i notices that also the GPU heatpipe heats up but the GPU fan stops and the CPU fan keeps working.

    last night i was working fine on my dissertation and now all the sudden all this.

    I have to mention that i had few blackscreen when i left the laptop off for long time but the screen was on the fans ware spinning at highes speed. all i had to do was turn off and on again.

    EDIT: any link to blind flash with usb would be helpfull at these hard times
     
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    As it seems the motherboard is faulty. I tried with T5550 processor and it worked on the first try with 8 gigs or ram without HDD and SSD. i turned off the laptop to put the SSD to see if i can boot and test something but it friezed during POST then the same story also with the T5550. it looks like the motherboard is messing up the cpu. now i have 2 broken CPU and a broken motherboard. it seems that i must look for a new laptop.
     
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    did you only plug in the SSD or did you also add mice etc?
     
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    only the ssd. nothing else so far and im not sure if my hdd and my ssd are in good shape. i have to check them tonight at a friend of some place that i will find.
     
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    Well, I just sold 1 of my Dell laptops and will hopefully sell the other tomorrow, then I will try a second attempt at another p79 MB for my 7811. My last p79 had the gpu crash.
     
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    I wonder how many of these problems are from actual gateway boards or those PB boards........... ?
     
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    Not sure, I bought the same board you did, from the same person, but will try one more time to revive this monster.
     
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