Is there gonna be a new model to replace P-7805u?

Different sockets like the desktop processors???

 

for their output and the small amount of power they draw they do in my opinion.. 2.0gHz quad for 35 watts is quite honestly amazing.

Imagine what they will be able to do with a 45 or 50 watt CPU

I really hope not... that would make me a sad Batman

 

Also, the 9800M GTS may very well be replaced with a 200m Series graphics card, one of these most likely:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/15/nvidia-pops-out-five-new-mobile-gpus-to-fill-invisible-gaps-in-i/

 

I'm just wonderin... did anyone else email Dan Ackerman? I dropped him a line, and I was just gunna see if anyone else did.

Plus, Best Buy is releasing a new line of laptops on the 28th, rumor has it. Surely Gateway wouldn't just throw a laptop in there with no advertising first? I mean, I wouldn't complain... but it'd be a bit awkward.

The G51 is supposedly hitting Best Buy shelves on that day. 1,000 bucks I think. But I dunno what the get up on it is.

 

Yeah i'm assuming it will be the 260 GTS (about 10% over the 9800GTS give or take a bit)

I'm just unsure if it will require a mother board rework

Still have heard nothing back from CNET though, and gateway is close lipped as usual

 

I thought that was GTX260M. Anyway, I hope it would have a GTX3xxM!

 

Yeah i'm assuming it will be the 260 GTS (about 10% over the 9800GTS give or take a bit)

I'm just unsure if it will require a mother board rework

Still have heard nothing back from CNET though, and gateway is close lipped as usual

I have but i've yet to get a reply.
Wonder if we can hit up bighops to see if he has the scoop on the new bestbuy line


EDIT:
Sorry for the odd doubleish post

 

I think these 200M parts may not last long in the market.

 

With nVidia who knows. They havent really changed their architecture since the 8xxx series cards, just die shrinks and better power/clock management. So nothing new has come from them in quite a while (about 2 years)

But i cant complain really. We're closer now than we've ever been to desktop power in laptops and its getting better. So hopefully it will keep increasing.

I would love a GTX level card in the new FX, but as we've always had GTS i figure we'll stay with that level (which i'm happy with)

 

The new Asus G51 has a GTX 260M and is coming out on June 26th.
I'm guessing that Gateway will release theirs around the same time to hamper Asus's progress.

 

Yes but how much with the g51 end up costing?
Last i heard was like 1800ish, though i will be the first to admit that i dont much keep up with Asus rumors and products.

 

Well it kinda would make sense as rumor has it (unconfirmed) that Gateway is suppose to drop the new FX line laptops on the 28th... I guess we now play the waiting game (thanks CNET...)

 

yeah but with only 6 days until th 28th, i'm kinda itching for details

 

I am counting the days.

 

Model G51VX-RX05 will have the C2D P7350 @ 2.00ghz with 4GB DDR2 Memory and 320GB HDD for $999
Model G71GX-RBBD09 will have the C2Q Q9000 with 6GB DDR2 Memory and 500GB HDD for $1399.99
Model G71GX-RX05 will have the C2D P8700 with 6GB DDR2 Memory and 500GB HDD for $1149.99
Model G71V-X2 will have the C2D P8400 with 4GB DDR3 memory and 320GB HDD for $1499.99
All with 260GTX 1GB DDR3

This time won't be easy to gateway beat asus.

 

Gateway changed the page on their website for the FX laptops. It only shows the 7805 now, and the page is different.

 

You're right! They probably noticed too that the 7808u is gone from the planet and know that the 7805u still exists (for now and in limited supply). What's going to be strange is if in a few days they drop their new FX line on us, we have nothing to prepare us for it.

No tech or laptop news sites have even mentioned what the new specs might be or what they are going to be called, no "Gateway is unveiling the 8865 (or whatever) June 28th with a T9600, blah blah blah". In other words, unlike the last few models, there isn't any hype this time...
Which has me grabbing straws from a few news groups (Example: CNET) to dig up some dirt...

So check out Gateway's "updated" FX Laptop website... only one remains ...

 

Is June 28th just speculation by people here or has there been evidence somewhere?

The G51 is turning me off right now... I was excited for it but the temperatures are apparently high. Gonna wait to see the G71 numbers.. if that's bad too, hopefully Gateway gives someone good for us.

 

@Metalangel: Those specs aren't that impressive actually...
compared to the Asus highest soon to come laptop, the Model G71V-X2 is identical to the 7805u with the exception of Model G71V-X2 having the 260m GTX. Plus that model is more expensive than the 7805u but that's probably because of the GPU upgrade. Which means that Gatway can easily have the upper hand in dropping a high spec laptop at an affordable price AGAIN.

I'd rather have a Core 2 Duo than a quad because I'll be using the laptop for gaming (most devs are lucky enough to even use two in some games.)
I also like to at least be semi future proof by having 4GB of DD3 ram than 6GB of DDR2 ram...

Hopefully the rumor of the new Gateway FX coming out in a few days is true...
I wanna see some specs already!

 

6GBDDR2 > 4GBDDR3 (In my opinion)

I'm just curious how they get 6GB... do they have 3 ram slots or are actually using a 4gb module and a 2gb module Thats pretty impressive is so.

Though if gateway can drop a rig with Q9000, 4GB DDR3 and a 260gts for the 1250-1350 like normal that will be impressive indeed. Espically is they finally stop selling locked motherboards so we can use setFSB (but that will more than likely not happen. I'd be willing to buy a QX9300 is they allowed 3.0gHz OC still though

I still havent gotten anything on this matter. I'm quite curious

 

Do you think a Quad would really be beneficial to gaming though (multimedia and multitasking is beneficial I know)? On my Desktop, I HAD a dual core and my games were pretty fast but when I swapped to a quad core my games slowed down a bit (tested- Quake 4- big difference in speed). Maybe because I'm using AMD currently, who knows, I even upgraded my graphics card too and that didn't make much a difference.

I'm crossing my fingers that the date is true and that the price is affordable (like usual) because it will be my first gaming laptop AND my first Intel computer (been using AMD for years now, jumping off the wagon). CNET or some Tech news group needs to lay down some news about this "soon to come" FX laptop from Gateway...

I do find it kinda strange to see Asus go with a 260m GTX on this newest line of laptops. They've always been devoted ATi users but I guess Nvidia is providing cheaper cards?

Side note- WOW, we've reached 8 pages on this subject... maybe we should send this to CNET or Gateway themselves !

 

Quad cores are just beneficial in general.

For things made for multicores its great, but yes if you only have a single core or dual core optimized program then a faster Dual core will beat out a slower quad core.

Thats why i'm excited about this notebook, but waiting for capella. The quads coming out then will use the dynamic core OCing to make a really great all around CPU. 2.0gHz quad or OC with 2 cores to 2.4-2.6ish or clocked at 1 core with a 2.8-3.0ish. Just really intresting and all with a TDP of 35 watts.

I'm just hoping that Gateway keep bringing us these amazing systems for a cheap price.

And yeah after 8 pages we really need some Info... i'm going to PM bighops to see if he knows anything.

 

It is a lot better IMO. It is the same price for the Model G71GX-RX05 essentially at $1150, and you get a 2.53 Ghz processor, of course the GTX 260M, and 6GB.

Also, DDR3 is overrated. Unless you have a high speed data rate (1333mhz or above) it's not much of a difference because of latency issues. Even at 1333 mhz it's not much better. If you want to see a difference you would need 1666 mhz. Not very future proof at all, considering you only need 3 GB for gaming anyways and it offers 6 GB DDR2 ram.

Quad core would be good for newer games where devs optimize it for quad cores. Some games still work better for Core 2 Duos. I don't really know if devs will even continue to push tech on quad cores because of the i7 out already. Maybe just better to stick with a higher clock core 2 duo like 2.53 or 2.66 ghz.

Of course for things like video encoding, editing, etc, quad core is easily the better choice. Since I only game, I'm gonna stick with the core 2 duo. Cheaper anyways.

 

Totally agree, the difference is notable , and you could get the G51 for 999 and put a Q9100 for 200 more it's a 1200 rig quad core 260GTX

 

It would be very cool, and good performace wise, but with only 1 fan, and allready out of the box overheating issues (see thread: the new asus g51) I doubt it would be possible.

The highest priced model of the G71 series, apparently has a blue-ray and and higher resolution screen than others; but a weaker processor. This means ASUS wanted to keep the cost down as low as possible.

I don't get why ASUS put so much RAM in a laptop. It's simply putting the price up, IMO 4 Gig's would be the best. I have not done any benchmarks comparing 4 v 6 GB, but I can sure take a guess that the performance increase would be unnoticable.

The highest priced model of the G71 apparently has a blue ray and a better resolution screen. It has a weaker processor than the one which costs 1149. Quite strange, but seems like ASUS wanted to keep costs as low as possible.

I would presume, as many other members that June 26/ 28th is gonna be the release date due tot he Windows 7 upgrade programm. Taking into acount that BB's (not all though) are allready receiving first batches of the G51, it should be released in that date then. However i think Gateway will be released later. They don't show any signs of a new model, which makes me think it will take them a month or so to release a new one.

 

Yeah I find it hard to believe Gateway has a new lineup so soon without any news of it so far. Probably will have to wait a bit longer. I hope I'm wrong though but to hold back leaks these days is nearly impossible.

 

I hope the info about new FX line will be coming any day now is true. I have a p-6860 and am in the process of looking for something new. But we should all keep this in mind.
When Gateway started the FX series was it's own company and could bassically do as they pleased, This is not the case anymore. They are now owned by Acer and so far Acer has pretty much let them be autonomous controling their company, but this could change at any time. If in Acer's eye's the FX line was not profitable enough it could be gone without notice. I sincerely hope this is not true, However the possibility exists.

 

Without a doubt the FX laptop line was very profitable, the laptops were sold in big quantities (except the 7808 and maybe some other short term upgrade models). I'm sure they brought profit to the company, so ACER will want to continue that. But they probably don't want to rush the researching/ developing of a new model, in order not to lose their reputaqtion of cheap, performance gaming laptops. They need to think of something to compete with the new G51 which is very cheap ($999).

 

Yeah I'm following that thread too, but asus has announced one model of G51 with Quad, so it's not impossible, maybe with just a better heatsink we're good to go

I agree, gateway had been for long time the best buck rig, when I bought my 7811 for 1200 there's nothing close in that price range, asus didn't have the x1 or x5 for under 1k.

 

Well i have gotten in touch with my spy (bighops ) and he's going to do some snooping for us today. Hopefully we'll here something pretty soon on the matter.

Acer is the wild card in this situation. I had originally hoped that Gateway would turn into their "gaming" division.

All they would need is about 3 laptops to completely fill that role. 15in gaming rig, a 17in gaming rig and a 17-18.4in uber gaming rig.
Not Sager or M17X levels but a quad cored and SLI/crossfire set up.

Price them all right and you have 3 machines that will sell like hotcakes (just like all of the other FX laptops have) More than likely this wont happen, but a crimefighting rich kid with bat phobias can dream

They could though.
15in - 1440x900 screen - 4GB ram - 260gts/gtx - 2.5ish Dual Core CPU
Nice 15in Gaming rig with a good price 900-1000 usd

17in - 1440x900 screen - 4GB ram - 260gts/gtx - 2.6/2.8ish dual core CPU
Nice entry (with one high point the CPU) gaming system 1300ish usd

17in (or larger) - 1920x1200 screen - 4+GB ram - SLI 260GTS - 2.0 quad core cpu
Great all around gaming rig with SLI 1600-1700 usd

Now you have all of the great starting points covered and people will still flock to these machines

 

The problem is that ACER never had a gaming laptop, and no one knows if the want to sell any gaming laptops. Hope they continue with Gateway selling gaming laptops.

Would agree to the 15/17 in, but not to the 18.4 uber gaming rig. That's niche market with that last laptop and people would just rather buy a desktop which is better in performance, but costs half the price of that "laptop". Don't forget about the sconomic sitation atm.

Count on him.

 

yep... and if he fails i've already dispatched the ninja monkeys to deal with his failure

 

LOL

 

Actually I am woried by the signs...........

1.) Gateway clearing 17" screen inventory by putting 1920x1200's in 1440x900 machines.

2.) quick release and little to no P-7808u's

3.) little to no driver or bios updates for the series.

4.) P-7805u's only available as refurb.

5.) P-7807u's seem to be a faint memory of even their existence.

6.) no touted new release coming from Gateway.

This smells of a dieing series, with no planned replacement.......................

 

1.) Gateway clearing 17" screen inventory by putting 1920x1200's in 1440x900 machines.
A: Placing 1920 X 1200 was most likely costing them too much money and wasn't giving them a profit whatsoever. Back tracking to the old resolution was the only way to make some money...
2.) quick release and little to no P-7808u's
A: People probably had the same thinking that it was over priced for just a quad upgrade, that's why Newegg sold it at a discounted price but it also cleared it's stock in that way...
3.) little to no driver or bios updates for the series.
A: Hasn't Gateway always been like this?
4.) P-7805u's only available as refurb.
A: Not true, a few Best Buys still have them in stock but only in limited amounts. Maybe Gateway is waiting for ALL Best Buys to clear their stocks before dropping the new ones...
5.) P-7807u's seem to be a faint memory of even their existence.
A: True, I never even found ONE, I'll give that to you...
6.) no touted new release coming from Gateway.
A: We are still trying to figure that out as we speak, we are kinda hoping a few resources...
This smells of a dieing series, with no planned replacement.......................
A: Acer is part of the company now, maybe they are going over a few things before the the new FX pops up, who knows, too early to tell...

 

Why do you have to be so mean

Yeah, I was kind of worried for the same reason. I've said it before and will say it again. Acer is the wild card here.

But honestly i cant see why the FX would go away. It seems to sell out completely after just a few months. Most FX models are bought up almost as soon as they are released. Remember the craze we had with the 7805 where just from this site we had people buying out entire Best buys full of these machines.

I'm worried a little, but i still have hope that Gateway will do us a solid and show Asus what it means to build the best gaming rig on the planet for the price

[crosses fingers and waits for bighops to get off work]

 

I have to agree! All the more reason Im thinking of getting one from tiger direct now when they still exist, although Im planning to wait till the end of the year and see if gateway will have something for us then. I Think about September-October, about the same time when they launched the P-7811 last year. I think thats about when the next one is due. This 28th rumor (On a Sunday, seriously??) cant have much truth in it i think. Wish I'm wrong though..

 

More speculation talk...
What if (BIG IF) Gateway is waiting for Windows 7 to drop?
Or see what Asus has in store to compare and break down a on par or better laptop that is more affordable !

 

If they are waiting for Win7 then they are waiting for Capella (as the releases are pretty close to each other) And that is months of very little sales money.

I know gateway has a decent sized line of notebooks, but lets face it the FX is their main seller (because you know this forum is an acurate representation of the planet ) and it would be a shame to lose out on months of sales... even if they just release a "new" 7805 and call it the 7806 with some nonissue thing changed to make it "new"

 

Did anyone get round to asking one of the forum administrators or someone "important" on this site to ask gateway wussup? Any word from cnet??

 

I'm not important :cry:

 

Ok then my Chiroptophobic friend, any word from either sources?

Again, I suppose there's no real hurry to release a new model right? Let the good folk over at gateway make a complete and CHEAP gaming rig that we'll all enjoy and discuss about for months on end like the 7811. I predict a good release come September. I'm seeing it having a 17" 19*12 resolution, intel P9500 processor and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260/280M graphics.

 

I do not think FX is in jeopardy, as they most likely will still want gamers, but the 17" P-78xx series may be in jeopardy. Likely reason for a delay is the new chipset, windows 7 can always be upgraded later. The new chipset could mean an entire new system design including video chip.

This new main board and other overal changes may make parts inventory totally incompatible between the 78xx's and the new system. This could be a good reason to clear all parts inventory and not order new stock even, or especially, for the manufacturing/assembly lines.

RE the 7808, they usually put together a bunch of systems to cover shipping to especially prefered retailers. then have a backup to supply them at a later date. if it were just overpriced you'd see either huge price cuts to clear stock or it hitting clearing houses at discounted rates to again clear inventory. This hasn't been the case for either the 7808 or 7807.......

 

Actually it WAS...
The 7808u was priced at $1799. During my time in choosing between the two, I watched online retailers closely while I did more research on those and other computers (causing me to join this forum.) All of a sudden, a few weeks ago, Newegg and a few retailers dropped the price of the 7808u from $1799 to $1499 for some odd reason. It sold out in less than a day, newegg and every other online retailer didn't bother restocking it and instead wiped it from their inventory. You can't find the 7808u anywhere, not on any online retail site, not on ebay, no where (and you still can't).

This was my first thread on this forum:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=387236
Kamin_Majere remembers...
That thread was already stating that Gateway's current FX lineup was starting to go dry...
Weeks before this thread popped up...

Online venders haven't stopped buying the Gateway FX lines, there merely isn't that much left Gateway can provide them. So it leaves only one notion... Gateway is most definitely clearing stock for something...
With Acer as the wild card now, the question is what... and when.

(Sorry for being a bit over dramatic, lol !)

 

Yeah for the 1499 price i was going to get one and sell my 6860 for upgrade money.

Drop the QX9300 in with SSD + 8GB ram and then live pretty for a while. Unfortunately it sold out almost instantly.

Luckily it did though, as i'm still curious about whats coming next (plus i want to wait for the capella platform)

 

NewEgg is famouse for clearing discontinued items at deep price cuts. I am confident this is what happened with the P7808's. Gateway/Acer most likely just advised NewEgg there would be no further systems supplied.

As is evident there were no surplus of stock of the 7808's or 7807's to supply to anyone, even clearing houses. Even BB on the 7805's is not getting new systems and selling either existing stock or display systems at stores only, nothing from their web site.

I am sure something will show up down the line but as mentioned what and when? I am just saying the huge clearing of parts points towards a system where parts will not be interchangable from the old series but the FX seems to be the gaming system designation for all systems...............

 

With my 7805 and P9600 I am sitting pretty now, the system is WAY more than capable of what I need to do. Essentially overkill for me and my present use. My XT5000T was more that enough system but fear of a premature death got me here today.

The only thing I'd like, but don't need. Is being able to convert HD to SD video at real time speed, 30 FPS. The XT5000T does 10 FPS, the 7805 with P8400 did 14 FPS and the P9600 does this at 17 FPS. I rarely, read twice so far, have to do this but it would still be nice too.............

 

I bet the QX9300 would do it at the 30FPS you want
Over the years i have found there is no such thing as a fast enough computer

 

LOL, I'll agree to a point, no matter how satisfied I am, as I thought I was with the XT5000T, I got this and was like "WOW".

Agreed a QX9300 would probably get me there but the cost wasn't worth it to me between a 7808 and the CPU............

 

After going through our entire system at work tonight it appears as though there is no evidence of what the new FX will be... not even a hint. This does not entirely surprise me though as the 7805 came in after the rest of our last line of notebooks. I'll continue to check into it when I work, you guys will be the first to hear, well maybe Kamin first.