Is there gonna be a new model to replace P-7805u?

Cool, keep us posted BigHops323 ! You might be our only hope in digging up some dirt...

Woah, almost 2500 views and already 100 posts when it comes to this thread...

 

aaaw... they discontinue it just as I'm about to buy it? just my luck =(

do you guys think I should hunt one down to buy or wait for the new model?

 

It depends...
As soon as we are to get a whiff of specs or news of the new models, whose to say. It's kinda a coin toss for you !

 

Thanks Big Hops... even if it wasn't good news.

 

Well its ninja monkey time for you

Thanks for trying to find out the info for us. Maybe it will be like last time and come sometime later than everything else. Still sucks that we will be so long with out an accessable FX model.

Gateway why must you toy with our emotions so!

Thanks for being our inside man bighops, we all appreciate it

 

As said, Capella time!

 

Wait! . At this point, it's not worth getting the 7805.

We better wait for new model. but before that for some info about a new release.

Heh, i was waiting so much to get the 7805u, that I even bought a mouse before buying the laptop (I've actually found a mouse that looks VERY similar to the chassis. I thought of buying a T9600 (and was very close to purchase it), but luckly someone placed a higher bid on Ebay lol:rolleyes2:

 

A 7085 with a t9600 is still a great machine. I'm not sure what they are going to do with the next gen of FX, but 900+CPU price for this well preforming of a machine is a great deal.

My 6860 has cost ALOT more than that after factoring in all the upgrades i've dumped into it. (could have technically bought a sager for the money)

So just because its not "new" doesnt mean its not still a strong system. Assuming gateway doesnt wait until capella's launch for the new FX, then it really wont be THAT much different to the 7805/7808 due to only motivena being available right now

 

The new graphics solution will be Nvidia or ATI based?

 

No idea really. I would assume 260GTS/GTX according to how much money gateway needs to save to turn profit.

I kind of want the next FX to have SLI 260GTS cards in it. It would be i nice boost to preformance for only a 11watt increase in the GPU TDP.
Might could even still squeeze by with the 120w brick

Wont happen because i doubt they will redesign the system, but its a nice dream

 

I was about to buy a P-78xxu as well, but i think if its just a matter of days, i will wait a little longer and get that one if the price will still be affordable (approx 1000$).

Kamin, i doubt they will put a SLI 260GTS, and i hardly doubt they will put a single 260GTS as well, since there won't be any improvement, cause the 260GTS was made at 128bit, instead of 256, even tho it has 96 pipelines, it wont compensate such a loss. It will probably be geared up with a 260GTX, which performs quite better than the 9800GTS.

 

I ordered an FX7805u from BB last week and received it yesterday and the darn thing wouldn't boot (BSOD'd every try), there was definitely a hardware problem - maybe a bad RAM stick? Anyway, I talked to Gateway support with no luck and returned it to the local BB. The "Geek Squad" looked at it and they refunded my money when the clerk saw that it was a discontinued model.

I could have ordered another one but after seeing it was discontinued I decided to wait and check online for more info. Now I'm glad my order was defective as it looks like a newer, better model could be released soon. Hopefully some news gets leaked in the next couple of weeks because I'm ready to buy now and I really want a new Gateway FX.

 

I know there wont be SLI FX laptops, but its always fun to imagine "what if"

I think you're underestimating the 260GTS. While it has the "lower" GTS quantifier it is actually based on the m200 chipset instead of the 260GTX which is just another 8000 series dieshrink based on the tired gXX chipset. While the GTX will be a bit more powerful it is WAY more inefficent compared to the 260GTS. You will be surprised how well it will compensate with the 128bit interface. (Plus 40NM rocks!)

The real big deal comes late this year when nVidia FINALLY swaps their mobile cards over to the m212 40nm chips. Which will be a HUGE increase in preformance and mobility.

Capella / Win7 / New chipset GPUs - The end of this year will be a big deal in mobile computing

You might have to wait longer than you think for the new FX. We assumed the end of this month (like most everyone else) but it appears there is nothing on the horizon as of yet

 

I tested a 260GTS, i didnt say it sucks or something, its actually a good card but the GTX would totally own it. And the GTS would perform drastically less on high resolutions, but the graphic card is still very good. I would definitely prefer a GTX on the next FX laptop. Which performs up to 20-25% more than the 9800m GTX, and 30-40% more than the 9800m GTS

 

Have anything to support those numbers? Not that i'm doubting you its just nvidia hasn't released a card capable of those kinds of increased numbers in a long time. And i've yet to see single 260GTX set ups that score 45% better than me in any benchmark.

(45% because i have an 8800GTS which is about 4-5ish precent less than the 9800GTS)

 

Are you comparing those benchmarks/percentages off the Desktop versions? Of course it's going to outperform any Laptop model's GPU.

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but the 260m GTS isn't even out yet, they were JUST announced to the public...

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_m_series.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gts_260m_us.html

So where does your percentages and benchmarks come from?
Anyway, as Kamin_Majere has mentioned, 260m GTS will perform pretty well (according to specs, the GTS is going to surprising be faster than the GTX) and will no doubt cost Gateway less to put in their next FX line up. Plus, if you've followed the trend, Gateway's FX laptops have ALWAYS grabbed Geforce GTS cards.

Yes, a 260m GTX would be sweet to put in the new FX laptop but I would prefer less heat and Gateway most likely doesn't want to break the bank or the way they have been handling the FX line laptops.

In my opinion, the 9800m (and 8800m) GTS can play games pretty well, You Tube videos are proof. So anything Gateway grabs to upgrade the GPU will most likely play games well again and still have a fantastic price for us future owners !

 

im just sharing my experience, as i got only few posts, i could also lie thats up to you if believe it or not, but well, the 260GTX gave 30-35 fps on very high settings no AA res 1480xXXX

that 40% was my own approximation of the 2 cards compared, it might also be totally wrong, but believe me, its at least 25% better, what i mean by this is not that you will get 25% better performance, just that the graphic card is 25-35% faster imo

PS: i doubt the 8800 is 4-5% slower than the 9800, i would say 10% some games even more and some even less. But if we speak about Benchmarks, the 9800 scores 1k 06 above the 8800.

Said this, i dont mean to say you are wrong on anything, we are just sharing opinions, arent we?
@da1writer: No. im not comparing desktop GPU to laptop, only laptop to laptop, i saw performance and compared, i dont own these cards.

 

Sorry maybe i wasn't clear. The 260GTX is still going to be faster than the 260GTS, but its doing so with alot more power and having to force the last bits of power from the old GXX core. So while more powerful is it horribally inefficent compared to the 260GTS. Which will preform quite nicely (6-10% better than 9800GTS is my guess, but its honestly just a guess) and will so so with a VERY low power usage and heat output

No you misunderstand, i'm not thinking you're trying to lie to us or trying to call you out, i was just wanting some sort of proof, because all of the benchmarks that i've seen run in no way show a single 260GTX besting me by 40+%

Ah ok... I think i understand what your saying. I'm basically just refering to actual preformance numbers. If it cant push 140+ frames per second compared to my 100 frames per second then i dont really ever consider how fast the card "feels" (note the numbers are made up as an easy way to represent 40ish % improvement)

Well as we've all Benchmarked the 68xx and 78xx series of FX computers to death and back and i havent yet found someone thats beaten me by a solid 1K in any of them. I'm going to have to say your wrong in this one. The 1GB 9800GTS has come the closest and it only has me by 7%, and only one person has managed that so far

Yeah, sorry i didnt mean to make it seem like i was calling you out in the last post, i just though you knew something i didnt, and was curious where you were getting the information from.

We are all deffinatly just sharing here... thats why we're one big happy family (mostly )

 

I agree with you now, thats right, but as u understood now, i didnt mean if you get 100 fps the 260gtx will give u 140, thats absolutly impossible, the speed of a graphic card is different from the performance it will give.

By the way, you shouldnt compare the difference between the 8800m vs 9800m and the 9800m vs 260, they are different generation graphic cards, and the last one was made also with a faster clocking, and Gddr5 to compensate the 128bit, so if between the first group there is 5%, on the second group there might be also 20%, who knows! Its so fascinating that they made it 128bit and still performs pretty well. i think it is gonna be a good graphic card.

But if the new FX is gonna take too long or cost too much (like 200$ more), i will probably get the 9800m gts since im a strong gamer and i cant spend too much and atm i got an integrated ati (no comment plz ç_ç)

Lets just hope it will be released very soon, i cant wait for it, GTS or GTX is gonna rock anyway, just in a different way and with different specs!

 

Agreed, Gateway putting in a 260M GTS or GTX is already going to be a great feat, it's going to of course be alot better/faster than the 8800m and 9800m GTS. It's a win win situation for us (budget) PC gamers !

 

do we know for a fact that they will be continuing this line?
I get the impression that it wasn't making them enough profit. Perhaps they discontinued it so they could make cheaper models

does any1 know of any similar laptops that are still available?

 

They had to be making some kind of profit from then. Pretty much every FX line has sold out. So i doubt they would have kept making them if they werent profitable

As to where to get one currently. Newegg, tigerdirect, ebay have them sometimes.

There's also personal owners on this forum in the marketplace selling theirs

 

And Best Buy implies that they still have some at selected locations.

 

If they sold the laptops for that price, it means that was the right one to gain money and sell all the laptops very fast cause of the low price, and they actually sold them all, Gateway became famous specially with this FX model. Im sure they made profit with it, and they wont cut the rope now, i know i got no proof about it, but why should they give it up?

 

i hope thats true. None of the bestbuys in Canada have any stock. Tigerdirect and newegg have refurbished models, but I have a kind of aversion to used computers. They were returned for a reason after all.

 

Dont worry about it, i also had a refurb laptop and it always worked great, just be sure to read if it has any problem or not, they usually are brand new in mint condition, and you can always return it!

 

BB in Canada never had any to begin win. The good ones anyways. FS and BB don't have any gaming laptops at all.

 

I'm planning to buy the Sager NP9850. Do you suggest I wait till the end of the year for the next generation notebooks? When do you think notebooks will be equipped with such components?

Thanks.

 

Typically the best thing to do is buy a notebook when you want/need one. If you wait for the next best thing, you will typically wait forever because theres always something even better coming out.

I typically buy during intels tick tock cycle. I bought the 6860 when penryn came out and i've skipped monteivena and will get a new rig once capella is released.

It seems to be the best way to keep from getting unneeded and largely nonissue upgrades (for me at least)

But for you, its according to how long your willing to wait. Capella isnt dropping on the market until 3rd or 4th quarter this year so you still ahve along time. But at that point we might also have SATA3 and USB3 to. (again months and months away)

 

If the GTS260M has 128bits GDDR5 memory, the data transfer rate is about the same as 256bits GDDR3 memory.

 

so i was going to get the p-7805u from tiger direct canada, but should i wait for the new model to come out?

 

Tell me the truth... you havent even read this thread have you?

You have two choices.
Want the 7805 = get the 7805
want the new model = wait however long until it comes out.

At this point we dont know how long of a wait that will be though, so you could be out of luck for weeks or even months.

 

looked through most of it, but im leaving for school in europe on august 13th, kinda sitting on the fence though, becasue those 7805's are going real fast, so if the new gateway doesnt come out before i leave, ill be out of luck and stuck with a crappy 5 year old laptop.

 

It will be iffy... not telling you how to spend your money, but i would probably go for the 7805.

We dont know when the new rig will drop on the market, and worse case senerio is you sell your 7805 for a small loss/profit and can still ge the new FX computer if it comes out before you leave.

Congradulations on getting to go to school in the EU (exchange student or a permenant thing?)

 

thats true, also will i need a transformer for the different power in europe?

going to sweden, mom is a swede and its a permenant thing.

 

Sweden is 220/240 power right? If so you wont need a transformer, just an outlet adapter (due to the euro-plugs being so different) But the stock powerbrick will handle 120/120 and 220/240 power.

I used to have a few net friends from sweden. They kept saying how great it was over there. I never got a chance to go though before life caught up and ate my youth

 

devinejoh, aren't the ones at TD in Canada refurbished? That's why I didn't get one. Just hoping you realized that.

 

whats wrong with refurbished? as far as the reviews go, they all seem to work just fine.

 

Gateway's quality control must be very bad because there seems to be an extraordinarily high amount of refurbs on the market.

As I mentioned before, I bought a new one and it wouldn't boot so I returned it for a refund. No worries though, I still want an FX but now I'll wait for a new model (if there is one?).

So, my old Inspiron XPS will have to do for a bit longer

 

Some people just aren't into the refurbished kind... returned for any reason and "fixed" and selling again... Probably a good reason it was sent in. I don't know, if you want to your choice. I just thought you didn't know it was refurbished. It's a cheaper price because it's used, for a good reason.

 

true, but if it is a lemon, ill just return it.

 

My refurb looked like brand new in absolutely every way. I honestly could not find one sign that it had been used. I played CSS the other day on it on max settings for 6 hours. It runs great.

 

Good for you, 7earitup.




That's the thing about refurbs - sometimes all that was wrong with it was original owner operator error and the product is just fine.

 

One of the largest reasons for refurb 7805's is this site. With all of us spreading the word about the possiblity of a 1920x1200 screen, alot of people getting the 1440x900 screen exchanged theirs.

Once its been opened then the only way to sell it is refurbished (even if nothing is wrong)

 

Personally I'm Waiting for a Laptop made for Window's 7. Laptop's in particular are a pain when it comes to Upgrading the OS, With all the little (and sometimes big) specialized drivers and such. I hope the Next gaming Gateway will be Window's 7.

 

OH COME ON GATEWAY, stop dipping your toes in the water and just jump into the pool already...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/25/gateway-adds-the-15-6-inch-nv-series-to-its-laptop-lineup/

 

Wow, thats a pretty decent amount of tech for 500 dollars. That will be a great media/office machine.

Wish they could have included a bit higher resolution, but still a very nice offering and i like the new look.

But yeah i REALLY want to see the next FX

 

They are starting to launch new ones, even got one for the fx series, albeit desktops. Lets hope the FX laptop will be coming out soon, saving best for last right....

 

I think Im gonna give it about 2 or 3 weeks before I move to Asus or something.

 

Yeah, the Asus is pretty alluring. Gateway has a big pair of shoes to fill.