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    Just got the 9c.20 Bios drivers from Gateway!

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by andros_forever, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. Rhadamanthis

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    thanks andros foverever, but, definitly what is the best bios for 78xx? 9c.17, 9c.12 or 9c.10?
     
  2. andros_forever

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    From my experience, 9c.17 without a doubt.
     
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    Hi,
    Even with that file I still get the WDM error............
     
  4. Hello_Moto

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    well thanks for the heads up....looks like i'll be giving this bios a miss.

    Disappointed that X9100 OCing support wasnt added. What exactly was the point of this bios update then?
     
  5. DarkEclips

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    Can someone upload the 9c.17 bios i cant seem to find it and the link from the other thread with all the bio's doesn't seem to be working, I just formatted my computer and I'm trying to get the latest bios.
     
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    Well I tried flashing back to 9c.17 and my nvidia drivers crash and i get the nvdlmk.sys or w.e error like always. I've tried 9c.12 and it doesn't crash. I guess the 9c.17 bios somehow messes up my video card so it's not an option. Are 9c.12 temps close to 9c.17?
     
  8. DarkEclips

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    None of the bios work, i tried all of them and I get this message.

    Driver (WDM) init fail!(0x137).
     
  9. code600

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    did you use the correct bit version? Try changing compatibility settings.
     
  10. DarkEclips

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    Yah made sure i used the 64 bit one and how do i change compatibility settings?
     
  11. vic3210

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    Sad to say I got the same results as everyone else. Something is very wrong with this bios. Hope gateway fixes it and adds overclocking options :wink:
     
  12. DarkEclips

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    Get the same ""Driver (WDM) init fail!(0x137)"" error on all the bios, i cant flash any of them.
     
  13. TANWare

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    I think it has something to do with Windows 7. I upgraded from 9c.11.00 to 9c.12.00 and then 9c.17.00 with no issue under the default Vista install. I now have Windows 7 HP but as a fresh install and now even those same files for 9c.12.00 and 9c.17.00 that I used under Vista will not work. All give the WMD 0x137 error............
     
  14. DarkEclips

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    so what? the only way we could get the bios is through vista and then a windows 7 upgrade?
     
  15. vic3210

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    that cant be right. Im running windows 7 and I did the update to 9c.20 and just downgraded back to 9c.17.
     
  16. PsychoUsagi

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    Same here, P-7805u running Windows 7, I installed 9C.20 multiple times and am now back to using 9C.17
     
  17. eViLrAcEr

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    so this bios is bad?
    :( I want more options in the BIOS :(
     
  18. DarkEclips

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    Then its just me cause i get that error even for the older 9c.05 9c.09 when i try to flash them.
     
  19. Audizzz

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    Do I need to activate windows every time I change BIOS?
     
  20. Maverick79

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    No you don't.
     
  21. TANWare

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    I wonder though if the succesfull installs upgraded the Vista install or did a fresh install. I had Windows 7 RC and did a total wipe of the drive before install, not an inplace upgrade............
     
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    sounds like the new bios is a epic fail. i wont be bothering installing a new bios unless it has oc support in which case looks like i never will.
     
  23. TANWare

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    I think that was a company madate with all P78xx's as to not have the OC feature. Since they don't have it in the P79xx's either they will not undermine their new models with a bios for the older ones that are really way to similar of a machine........
     
  24. InfectedSonic

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    i tried contacting gateway to find out what changes were made to 9c.20.00 bios that were not in 9c.17.00 bios but since my laptop is out of warranty they first completely dodged the question and instead explained the danger of bios flashing :rolleyes:

    i then sent another email asking the same question pleading they dont completely disregard it but like i said since my warranty was over they just gave me the i dunno call our you pay a ridiculous amount of money to get an answer hotline :mad:

    maybe someone that is still under warranty will have better luck.
     
  25. andros_forever

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    They basically did the same exact thing with me when I contacted them... lol like I would pay 30 USD for a half hour help hotline where I'm sure they still won't be able to help.
     
  26. vic3210

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    damn my warranty just ran out last month.
     
  27. razvanpas

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    7805u model. Any of you has any problem with WD My Book 1TB using mainly eSATA? Hdd keep going in standby mode during heavy writing(>2-3GB), frozing laptop aswell. Sorry for off topic but i have more chances here. I searched entire web for same issue but couldnt find anything. hope this new bios save me. Must say that in all win oses same problem. thx.



    I tried to update in win7_64 but i got an error. I boot in win7_32 and it worked. before update was about 50celsius and now 70. Is anything good in this? My guess is not.
     
  28. razvanpas

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    hope this is helpfull

    The BIOS update will help you to run the system FAN's in correct RPM, if there was any issue with overheating and will change the BIOS to new version to work the system in better way.
     
  29. Hello_Moto

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    lol @ the repeated usage of "you are ok" in the face of balant evasive/ scripted responses.
     
  30. Omexis

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    lol, I feel sorry for the support guy having to deal with bad english

    : let me tell you something
    : you are ok
     
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    I really want to install this new BIOS but it really doesn't matter what I do, I just keep getting the same "m_RomDBCtrl fail!(0x385)" error in Windows 7. How are you guys getting it to install?
     
  32. razvanpas

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    I really dont care what do you think about my english, what i care about is to solve my problem. that s why im here. i can help you with a link to download something to suit you. HERE
     
  33. DigiDoc

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    If you're using the eSATA port on the WD Mybook drives, you're going to need to update the firmware on the Mybook. I had two WD My Book home edition drives (which have eSATA, USB2.0 ports and I think a firewire port too). There was a bug in the older firmware for the Oxford Semiconductor controller that's used in these mybook drives that would cause them to spin down and not recover gracefully. It drove me nuts until WD released the updated firmware.

    You can download the firmware from here:

    http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=111&lang=en

    You'll need a USB cable to do the update (it can't be done over the eSATA cable). FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS EXACTLY ON THE FIRMWARE DOWNLOAD PAGE TOO. :)


     
  34. sickofsoyo

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    anyone wanna script a custom bios and add OCing, and quad core support ourselves? :D I'll help with what I can, Im an EE major currently in school, I can always talk to professors, and older students if we get stuck.
     
  35. vic3210

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    Sickofsoyo I wish I knew how to code cuz I'd help with that.
     
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    I'd need to know what to use are far as editing a bios, and Im sure I can dig up a few other bios' and find out how to add overclocking. Might take some time, but I think its do-able with a little help. Once we get a revision out with the features, we can hopefully start getting some user input as far as bugs and features and go from there. Once we can dissect it, it should be easy for most people to trace through. We can separate ourselves from gateway and their $30 half an hour charge for a phone call.

    edit:

    If I'm gonna start working on this, Im gonna need some help identifying components so I can reverse engineer the existing code. It will definately take me some time to even get started, gonna be a very big project.
     
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    Overslocking may be fixable, Quad core may not be. The 78xx has a Quad varient that uses the same bios versions. They had the 9c.17.00 included if memory serves me correctly. It was hinted from a rep to someone it would take a main board modification for quads to run from a C2D system.

    This probably means the boards are not set up as plug in only capable of the C2D or the Quad. This modification could be as simple as a solder to complete a jumper connection to as complex as redoing connections within the cpu's socket or board connection. No one here really knows for sure, and those at Gateway that do aren't telling.

    Now if the mod is found I'll happily dig out the soldering iron, I'd love to have some QX9300 goodness inside............. :)
     
  40. sickofsoyo

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    well I'm having a little bit of trouble getting the bios open. I have Phoenix bios editor, but I get an error each time I try to open a rom i get "BCPSYS not found!" or "Invalid rom size!". Anyone know what to do here? If I can get this thing open, I can start learning the code and go from there.
     
  41. banjo

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    What version BPE you using. I'm using 2.2.1.3 and can open this 9c.20.00 bios no problem. It definitely has a lot more available then the 9c.17.00 bios as far a features. If you can activate them I don't know. Reverse engineering is not an easy thing to do no matter what. LOL!
     
  42. sickofsoyo

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    ok, I will have to find a newer version of it. I'll see what I can do. I have a decent amount of time I can put into figuring it out. Where did you find 2.2.1.3? I have 2.2.0.1 and have issues
     
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    To get the latest BPE... go to mydigitallife forum. They have it there foor download. Also, a very good hex edititor. LOL.
     
  44. razvanpas

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    Well DigiDoc.... I already update this version of fw but for me nothing happened. Still have same problem. I was just thinking ... got anything to do maybe because i enabled raid 1x320GB(7200rpm) & 1x200(7200rpm) with different sata version? What else I observed is that limiting transfer rate is not freezing. Normally in win7_64 is showing about 50MB/sec speed. I doubt this is the normal writing speed of ext hdd. Is it possible that hdd buffer to overflow?. What is is your writing speed to ext hdd on esata? Any advices?
     
  45. DigiDoc

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    Are you using the internal esata port on the 7805? I never used mine, I was using an expresscard esata card to run my drives.

    Question: are you using the Intel Storage Matrix drivers? If you are, try downgrading to the IATA88ENV version of the drivers. I've been noticing that the absolute latest version of the drivers tend to be a little flakey.
     
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    I don't know what you're talking about, I didn't see any new strings or anything at all really in PBE. I opened 9C.20 in PBE before I even installed it, I didn't see anything new so I just assumed it was a stability update or something, only to find the opposite. I don't know how you plan to edit the BIOS with PBE anyway, it's very limited, it only really lets you work with what's already in the BIOS, not including any "hidden" features or anything of the like. If you'd want to add things to the BIOS I believe you would have to Hex Edit the ROM and then re-insert it into the WPH file or something like that. Just a heads up I don't believe that WPH files will open in PBE either, it has to be the ROM file. Though banjo is correct in that you will need 2.2.1.3 to open it aswell.
     
  47. sickofsoyo

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    Ok, here's what I've found so far... the option ROMS OPROMS00.ROM-04.ROM are what setup the Headers for settings, there are 5 settings: Main, Advanced, Security, Boot, and Exit. In the root table there are 6 total options, one Labeled Intel which has settings for northbridge, CPU, etc. There are even settings in there that have not been completely setup with the connotation "TBD" Im gonna try to reorder this menu, to inlude the Intel Menu. In order to do this, Im gonna have to extract each section and changed what it points to(basically just move the last 3 sections down, and insert the Intel section of options).

    EDIT: Another thing I bumped into... Under max CPU Cores, the value of 4 is present... so if there is a limitiation on the amount of cores these computers can support it is hardware, as in something gateway did to prevent them from being run... maybe a limit on power going to the processor?
     
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    (to the edit) Would this be possible if the quad cores won't even POST? I read that they would not from other forum members. Also we do have support for the X9100 which has about the same TDP and higher VIDs I think... It would only make sense that the BIOS supports quads though, since the P-7808u does and I believe it uses the same BIOS.
     
  49. PsychoUsagi

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    Also you wouldn't mean this would you?
    Because these options are already in the BIOS.
     

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    Psycho, those are in the 9C.17 bios I have open, but when I flashed my bios, they never appeared... something is weird about the setup. It looks like a lot of the bios was chopped out and things like that are remnants. Im finding a lot of odd stuff that doesnt really belong. And Im not sure whats going on with the quads, I can post up a screen shot, it shows mpmaxcores = 4. Which to my knowledge is muliprocessor maximum number of cores is 4.

    If someone can get ahold of a 7811 and a 7808 and compare the boards as closely as possible and see if maybe its a hardware limitation? Bios wise quad core should be working on the duo setups.
     
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