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    Official Gateway 78xx Series FX BIOS - 9c.05.00 thru 9c.17.00

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by E-wrecked, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. mormegil83

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    Ok so i want to update my bios but i'm pretty new to this sort of stuff. Usually i just install video games and play them, so i don't want to brick my system! All i did so far was download and unzip the windows flash "thing" from the first page of this thread. Do i just double click the .exe file in the 64 folder and let her rip, or do i have to download something else also and put it in that folder then run it? Sorry... noob...
     
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    [​IMG]
    Danger always exists in BIOS flashing.
     
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    Ive been following this thread since it was posted. I just registered to say,

    Thank you E-Wrecked for your hard work and contribution!!
    Fashed to 9c.10.00 v28 and its been running without a hicup.
     
  4. mormegil83

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    Ok... so i downloaded that file from the first page into a folder i created on my desktop and unzipped it. do i have to put it in a specific location? and i only have flash64.sys, IMV-026W.exe, and WFlash.DAT. Where did you geet the other three files? or is there a link you can direct me to, to show me how to do this, without distroying my sweet 7811.
     
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    All you have to do his double click on IMV-026W.exe and the rest will take care of itself :)
     
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    no need to move anything..just run the 64bit or 32bit .exe from the folder correct for your OS. Dont touch any buttons after..just let it do it's thing. After its done, your computer will shut down..but dont touch a button then, either. Just wait for windows to restart :)

    on behalf of everyone here, you're welcome. There's plenty of other folks who have helped along the way..and I'm sure they appreciate the thanks. :)
     
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    Ok, what i did so far:
    A couple of days ago i downloaded the flash thing from the first page of this thread and put it in a folder i created on my desktop and unzipped it. so all i have are the flash64.sys IMV-026W WFlash.DAT files in that folder. Does this stuff have to be in a specific location, and where did you get the other files? basicly i need a step by step... is there a thread somewhere else to help me or if someone doesn't mind helping me now that would be great!
    TY in advance!!!
     
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    Click this link and follow the instructions provided. This is the easiest flashing process ever created. You pick whether you want Windows flash, or DOS flash..they both do the exact same thing. I preferred windows, as it takes one click. Not using a bootable device, or anything like that. You decide what you prefer. But sounds like the Windows version may be your flavor.
     
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    sorry walked away and came back... didn't think that first post actually posted so i typed again... my bad. told ya i was noob :)
     
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    Not to be rude, but you're making this quite more difficult than it really is.

    1) Download the file to the desktop.
    2) Unzip the file to the desktop
    3) Depending on your OS (64-bit or 32-bit), select the appropriate folder. (i.e. 32 or 64 folder)
    3) Locate the .exe file
    4) Double click on the .exe file
    5) Sit back and wait for the computer to reboot
     
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    Yes I had assumed the bios files were separate but the 3 files are all you need. Revised pic post above. :p
     
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    yeah i know thanks for your help!
     
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    Hey thanks agian all!!! guess who's sporting a new BIOS!!!! sorry for the paranoia!
     
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    just rep'n that 9c.08.00 bios baebee!...*LOL*
     
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    speakin of which.. I havent heard back from them yet.. I emailed again just a bit ago. And I'm distraught.. I'm not sure why, but my GPU clocks cant be pushed as much on here as the previous 7811FXs. The driver's arent trying to reset..but it artifacts pretty dam quick. Those clocks you used on Crysis, I've set mine higher than that before.. But this particular card doesn't handle it. I really dont wanna exchange again. But, if it's not the heat..and it's not the drivers.. but it artifacts with lower clocks than Ive pushed before..what could it be, but the GPU? It never made it over 60c. But it artifacted like it was on fire.

    Maybe it was the Crysis bench.. Just ran 3dmark with my record clocks, and it scored 16 pts shy of the score in my sig. Not bad. I'll quit whining. :)
     
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    yeah, it's a weird thing when over clocking... different clocks and settings for different benchmarks and programs. he had me because i only ran one test per resolution instead of 3. but i was running 1280/1400/1650/1900 all in one loop, but when i went back and did just a 3 loop run per resolution, i went from 26 frames to 31.5. had he not said anything i would have left it alone...lol
    but still...there was basically a 1-2 frame change with this card going from 1280 up to 1900...now that was interesting to say the least! my new 3dmark record is 11,115. we get this over clock or fsb working...we should be able to hit like 11.5 to 12k. (speculation of course)
     
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    So, these BIOS don't really mess with the fan algorithms, do they? Particularly the GPU fan.
     
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    Wrecked- Do you recommend using 9c.08.00 or going with the latest .10 version?
     
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    ive been running the 9c.10.00 and had 0 problems .
     
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    Actually I think they do. Since updating I've noticed the CPU fan cycling much less frequently - and when gaming it comes on and stays on without all that "hunting" it was doing before. Sorry I can't comment on the GPU fan, I can't even hear it above the fans on my Cryo cooler.
     
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    I just installed 9C.10.00 and so far so good :)

    As far as the GPU fan goes... running Furmark for 10 minutes got the GPU up to 101C... this is sitting flat on the surface. If I elevate the back of the laptop, the GPU never gets over 80C.
     
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    I just got my new 7811 and it has bios 9c.14.00.





    Ok just kidding, but Gateway told me 9C.10.00 will make your pc explode after 4 days of use. Ok just kidding again but I did just get my new 7811 and, finally, has 9c.08.00, third time a charm. No problems either. Except for the fact that I can't figure out how to disable quiet boot now that I've enabled it to set my raid volumes... anyone else have the problem where the bios screen doesn't flash but the non-quiet boot information loads immediately on startup? I try hitting f2 and even holding it right when I press the power button, but no luck.
     
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    LOL..nice. I do have v. 9c.12.00 though. Anyhow, hit F10 when the comp first tries to show initial POST. Then it will show the RAID drives.. then it will give you "Select Boot device" popup from hittin F10..and the last selection in the menu is to go into the BIOS Setup. Just kddin bout the BIOS version :p


    EDIT: Received response from Wistron Support;

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    Subject: RE: 9c.08.00 BIOS support
    Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:10:57 +0800
    From: ***********@WISTRON.COM
    To: eirikur**********@hotmail.com
    CC: N*****@wistron.com; S*****@wistron.com



    Dear Erik,



    Overclock feature certainly can be implemented, and the feature will goes with the BIOS. However, for your request, you should directly contact with the Gateway or Acer. Wistron only take direct order or request by the client, and we are not allowed to implement special function on our own to the end users.



    Sorry for not being able to solve your issue right away. Thank you.



    Best Regards,

    Margaret(Maggie) P. Lin
    S/W Dept. III,
    S/W R&D Div.
    Wistron Corporation.
    Tel: 886-2-8691-2888-5646
    E-mail: *******@wistron.com
    ___________________________________________________________
    End of Email

    So, I replied back:

    Margaret,

    Gateway or acer still doesn't offer the 9c.08.00 BIOS to the public for download. However it comes with the *new* shipments of the 7811FX, and also comes on the 7812j FX.. Gateway/Acer is not very helpful when it comes to support. Is there anyone with your company that I could order and pay for a personalized BIOS from? One that works on the 7811FX? Even if it is completely different than the BIOS made by gateway, that is fine with me. I am very upset that my x9100 is not being used to it's full potential. Or, at the very least.. what programs/operating system would I have to use to compile my own BIOS? Linux? Or is it editable with Windows? Please, help me help you. Thank you again for your quick responses, and all of your help.



    Erik
    ______________________________________
    End of Email


    So, guess they are kinda like a drug dealer..who supplies the original product..before its stepped on, and cut, and then by the time you get it it's not worth what it was originally..but still cost you more. Gateway is the slimey dealer.. Wistron is the kingpin. I'm gonna take down the kingpin. ;)
     
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    Jakamo. you are lucky. I'm on my 4th one and has dead pixel. going for my 5th one tomorrow

    edit. It's afterminight so... today... sigh...
     
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    Sorry for constant posting, but my local store has 7811fx in stock!!! yay!!!
     
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    Go get you a new rig mista! You deserve it! Dont sweart it man.. just make sure you have a backup of your windows install cloned somewhere. Makes it much easier to trade, swap, and exchange with BB. It stressed me out the first 2 times, but after finding Acronis.. I was fine with swapping when I had an issue. Re-installing windows always gave me the most ehadache.. Anyhow, goodluck and keep us posted!
     
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    E - I did what you said, and now the bios screen flashes (very shortly), but all of the other information still displays after (not the most quiet of boots, even though quietboot is reenabled). I'm assuming this is normal but just checking.
     
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    Hmm.. Mine always shows the RAID screen.. and briefly shows POST.. It bothered me at first, but I dont pay it much attention anymore. Not saying that's how you should feel about it.. I am sure someone here can shed some light on having a true quiet boot... Anyone?
     
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    sorry bud, just saw the question.. I ran .08 for a bit, then the .10 for a few days.. I went back to .08. No reason in particular, but it seemed the CPU temps were lower with .10. About 6C lower actually. The 9c.10 bios is still in testing phase, so Im not sure if it's tailored for maximum performance just yet. Give it a try if ya like, it takes only a couple minutes to flash right back to 9c.08. But, no issues out of either.
     
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    just keeping y'all updated.. sent another email..my reply is first. Trying to keep it simple for translating reasons.

    Begins here:
    _______________________________________
    Margaret,



    Thank you for your continued help. I did mention that I have the x9100.. It is Intel's Core 2 Duo Extreme x9100, stock @ 3.06 GHz and overclocks up to a 17x multiplier. The Gateway won't let me change the stock clock of 11.5 multiplier. It is not quad core though. I don't want you to break any company policy. However, if there is someone with the company that I could contact.. I will be happy to pay for a BIOS to be created for me. I know Wistron is a big company, and I am just one person..but I am more than happy to invest money to acquire a new BIOS for my computer. Or possibly, someone there can do it outside of work..in order to have something to do with their free time? You have been very helpful Margaret.. Thank you for keeping me informed. Can your boss give permission to allow me to pay for a BIOS? Please, let me know.. Hope to hear from you soon.



    thank you,

    Erik




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    Subject: RE: 9c.08.00 BIOS support
    Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:34:06 +0800
    From: M********@WISTRON.COM
    To: eirik**********@hotmail.com
    CC: S***@wistron.com; N**@wistron.com



    Dear Erik,

    I understand that your concern and sorry for the inconvenience, but as you know, I am only a RD who is not allowed to break the company policy. As you know that we only developing feature by Acer/Gateway requests. By the way, what you menioned X9100 is Quad Cord CPU which certainly contains issue if you using the BIOS that you are using now, becuase for Quad Core CPU, the whole development jsut close to the end in wistron internally, and it won't be lauched out till by Acer/Gateway till Oct or even Nov. Also one more thing, x9100, which is not extreme CPU, doesn't contains the feature of overclock function. For over clock feature, you will need at least using EX9300.
    Additionally, I am not so sure if your system can be used to support the Quad Core CPU. That is also a concern.

    ** please ensure that Simon Yeh who is the direct boss has been added into the mail loop.

    I will has a internal discussion with my boss and to see if any suggestion can be provided for your requeset.
    sorry again for not being able to solve your issue.

    Best Regards,

    Margaret(Maggie) P. Lin
     
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    So wait the x9100 is not overclockable ?? or it sounds like maybe she just does not know it is . Also about the quadcore support not sure if it will work in our systems but its part of the newest bios ? crazy stuff i tell ya.
     
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    lost in translation? possibly my previous email confused her.. I tried to clarify in the reply. :)
     
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    The fact that she wants to bring her boss in the loop probably isnt a good thing. he will just shoot it right down and say just dont reply to anymore emails from outside etc because of the backlash they could face from gateway for helping an end user . They give us a bios that OCs then the bios spreads like wild fire and people are overclocking there machines and burning stuff up see where im going with this as it will all point to warranty repairs etc. i really hope im wrong .
     
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    Right.. I see your point. I didn't think of it from that stand point. I have also contacted someone else, in hopes they have the ability to assist. Worst case scenario, we still have the new BIOS. Quite possibly, the next release may have the ability to OC.. She did say she'd send the input to her coders as well. *shrugs* As long as I'm not part of an international lawsuit. :)
     
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    Thank u E-wrecked for everything u hsve done .I took the plunge and upgraded my bios and was afraid of what might happen, but it went real smooth strangely enough.thanks to everyone again.
     
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    then start off by saying it's only for the extreme and quad cpu's with unlocked multipliers. just like the 6860. ask if they are the ones who did the bios for this model as well. and just like the raid option was a mistake or flaw. ask them if if the over clocking feature for the extreme cpu is also a mistake or flaw. if they didn't create the bios for the 6860....then we are at the hands of the department heads....
     
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    At this point im just grateful for the fact that E got us the current new bios plus the one with the hopeful potential to have Quads in our machine, which i can almost guarantee gateway will never share with us.

    Love the machine, hate the support and hate not being a strong enough word here.
     
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    john..I'll see if there was a reply whenever I get home today. If so, or if not.. I'll definately throw this out there. good thinkin'. She made it clear the OC feature can be implemented.. it's prolly just a keystroke for them. But, I understand that she's not risking losing her job over some guy in America who's trying to get his jollies..


    Well, not sure if I posted the email on here or not.. but she did mention the Quad support BIOS should be here oct. or nov..or, at least that's when they expect to have a final version to deliver to Gateway. Doesn't mean Gateway will provide it to us. Obviously, they like to be selfish with these BIOSes. :)
     
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    Suggestion:
    I hate Gateway support with the heat of a thousand suns. :p
    -- Hate Fu --
     
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    this is understandable for sure. all we can do is ask and hope for the best.
     
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    Syn: Post # 700, congrats. :) Not sure that's a milestone or anything..but ya made it! :p
     
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    Thanks!!! My goal has been achieved.

    Now I can change my title to something more fitting like:

    "NBR Massage Therapist"
     
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    i thought i had read this right in the fact these bios had quad support but she calls it Qual core :)

    ***** IMV-028 *************************************************************
    00080: Nomo Lu 2008/08/28 18:04:00
    1. Modify Annie oil secury code.
    1. Set HDD password on AHCI mode and reboot.
    2. Change IDE MODE
    3. Enter password and it will fail.
    2. When POSt, If User press F2, system can't enter setup menu on IDE mode.

    00079: Nomo Lu 2008/08/28 17:52:00
    1. Modify APIC table.
    Check CPU core to modify APIC table.
    2. Update BU code for panryn CPU

    00078: Nomo Lu 2008/08/28 15:52:00
    1. For Qual core CPU.
    Update thermal table on KBC firmware V3.18

    ***** IMV-027 *************************************************************
    00077: Nomo Lu 2008/08/13 15:52:00
    1. For Qual core CPU.
    When TP_C0h, Check cpu core(dual/qual).
    If Qual core, Set 0 on ECRAM 52h[0]
    If Dual core, Set 1 on ECRAM 52h[0]
    2. Update KBC firmware V3.17
    -Add to classify Qua core or dual core to init different value for thermal sensor
     
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    Well, she also refers to APIC table & panryn. The taiwanese-> english translator is defective. :p
     
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    Ya but If Qual core, Set 0 on ECRAM 52h[0]
    If Dual core, Set 1 on ECRAM 52h[0]

    This has to refer to quad but hey maybe im wrong :p.
     
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    Ok... just got a replacement. When geek squad opened my laptop it was fine. when I got home. ANOTHER STUCK PIXEL THAT DOESNT GET FIXED.

    ok... no more laptop business for me... I'll have to get a desktop now. Sorry guys I'm out of the league. I'll miss u all!
     
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    mista,
    sorry to hear that.. you'll be missed :( Maybe you should try once more? I am on number 6 and happy :) coulda been happy with number 5, but that was before the new BIOS.
     
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    Nobody has mentioned trying to "massage" the stuck pixel. I've had it work about a third of the time; costs nothing but a minute of your time. GENTLY take your fingertip and press on the screen at the stuck pixel; apply firm but gentle pressure and move your fingertip around that area in small circles for 30 secs clockwise, then 30 secs counterclockwise. You may think I'm kidding but it's been known to work, honest.
     
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