Official ICD7 Thread

And, I think it is important to point out that many of those forum testers were not skilled computer professionals but were computer users that were willing to attempt to apply ICD and that these non-tech folks found ICD easy to apply as they also improved the heat transfer to the heat sink(s). This, at least to me, is an important aspect of the overall superiority of ICD.

 

I tried to propose with a 7 carat tube of ICD compound. She said that the carat count was adequate, but the clarity was lacking.

 

The miser... try with 24 carat tube...

 

OMG my GPU reaches 95C on 700/900/1750. It is not acceptable. I have no choice and must use ICD. How long does it take to change the paste? And is it very dangerous?

 

Your profile shows you have a Gateway 7805u.

Look back through this thread and you'll find both of your answers, nindustrialny.

 

It is a fair amount of work! So long as applied properly and care is taken with the assemblies it is very safe. ICD is only an improvement on the existing TIM. Expect to do the CPU and possibly the Northbridge too so get a 24 not just a 7 tube.............

 

I`m going to do: CPU/GPU and Northbridge.

 

Was wondering if ICD7 sample giveaway are still up for grabs ? Its high time this was made available through local tech stores.

 

Im curious to know as well. I need to put this T9900 in, and would like to change my GPU/Northbridge as well at the same time.

 

Just realized I have not updated since August, time does fly.
Any questions or corrections let me know

 

IC diamond is a very nice thermal paste, I used it for a presentation for my thermodynamics class I used many computers through many tests, it was a success .

PS: I have to buy more .

 

Glad it works well for you

 

I've been trying to get information about the correct size of IC Diamond to be applied for my Intel T9500 processor. The website application instructions say that it should be squeezed at the center with the size of 5-5.5 mm and it will spread circular with diameter around 2.5 cm.

Isn't that to big for a processor like T9500 which core size is small, let say around 1x1.5 cm²?

 

Yeah, put less.

Try a really tiny amount, then take the heatsink off and check if it was good.

 

Then I should wipe it off and clean both surfaces again since it is specifically mentioned in the instructions not to remove the sink to check the spread as it will introduce air into the joint.

Source: http://www.innovationcooling.com/applicationinstructions.htm

Can I just get the proper application size for this kind of processor?

 

Yep. That's how I do it. It's worth doing it right.
Unless you don't want to waste thermal paste.

 

I only got the small tube (7 carat) but I'd like to use it in my two laptops. The first laptop only for the processor. The second one will be processor and northbridge (which will be twice amount since I'd like to shim the northbridge).

 

Ok, I guess the size of 3/4 of a grain of rice would be the amount I would use.

 

Yes, I thought I might reduce it a little bit from 5-5.5 mm. If using linear count, since 5-5.5 mm would spread a circular of 25mm, then I would only need little more than half to cover 15mm.

I guess 3/4 is okay since it would hurt if it spills over to the green part a little bit, right?

 

IC diamond doesn't conduct, so a lil spill won't hurt. Thats what Innovation Cooling says.

 

Ok, I have a p7805u

What are the little rectangle metal pins arranged in a undiametric pattern on the Northbridge, the reason I ask is recently I applied ICD24 to my CPU and Northbridge, and now the computer has a slight performance issue and the CPU usage fluctuates abnormally, meaning I didnt notice it before I applied the TIM. The CPU appears fine, but the metal pins on the Northbridge have spillage from when i applied the ICD7. Are the pins there just to ensure weight distrubution for the Northbridge or do they have some other function. I'm curious if it could be related to my issue. The computer still remains functional, but obviously I don't want something that could worse. I'm upgrading to a t9900 as soon as it gets here, I'm just curious if I need to put less ICD24 on the Northbridge. Any help is appreciated. Does the fluctuation relate the to Northbridge or could I have damaged the CPU. If the pins on the northbridge aren't important then I know I need to look at the CPU or CPU socket as the source of the problem. Any help is appreciated.

Update: I have been reading a couple of the forums and now I am beginning to wonder if the issue may be related to my Bios version, which I know I updated, but to which version i need to check. I may flash a different BIOS and see if that makes a difference.

 

Was the BIOS update done after applying ICD24 ? I guess 9C.17 version must be the culprit. If i were in your place i'd try clean installation just to see if that fixes it. Tried that ? Else flashing back to the original version.

 

Yea, 9c.17 is the Bios I flashed to, so I'm gonna roll it back the Bios and attempt reapply the ICD7 on the Northbridge. I dont care waht fixes it as long as it is fixed.

 

Looking at this picture all you do is put some of the ICD7 on the CPU & chipset in a glob in the middle. Do you spread it out or just leave as is and put it all ack together and it spreads itself out automatically.

 

After ICD7 application, i stick the heatsink back on and push down gently. Hold for a few secs.

Then i tighthen the HS screws in the following order: 5, 4, 2, 3, 1

screw 5 is the one near the northbridge and the other 4 aare located at the corners around the CPU. By tightening diagonal corners, it ensures a even spread of ICD7 as the HS is clamped down.

If tightening only on one side first (eg. 1, 2 and then 3, 4), it will essentially push the ICD7 in a ----> spread; uneven TIM distribution.

Well at least that's what i think.

 

Compression spread - let the sink do the work

 

I have been getting requests for samples and I have put a hold on here for now as I am in the process of launching a new compound on several forum giveaway's and do not have time to follow through at this time maybe in a month or so I will make another 20 available

 

oooo new compound?! must give it a try.

 

Guess the new compound will be more of a fine tuned version of the current one.

 

Nope, taking a different track- ceramic, Low cost performance compound

 

I see. Hope you are not gonna stop IC Diamond versions. Compared to other thermal compounds IC Diamond is a tough find. People find it hard to get even googling. Hope you don't mind this question of mine. How's the market for IC Diamond? I know there are a lot of fans for this one including me. Searched a few places yesterday and they are OOS. I bet even the new compound will be equally good (even price wise as you mentioned). I don't see you guys losing business with IC Diamond especially with hardcore gamers around.

 

Diamond sales have been doubling every couple of months the last 6 months so I am happy with our progress considering the economy. Sales are growing fastest in the server and notebook end in markets that require high reliability. Asia is the fastest growing with 2X growth the US sales. So.... no not dropping ICD anytime soon.

New paste is top tier performance wise and will compete easily with the best though just slightly less than ICD & will be offered in a custom tube 4 grams @ a MSRP of $6.99.

20% lighter than ICD volume fill will be equal to ICD 24 at 4.8 grams (Pastes should compared on volume rather than weight)

91% + bulk loaded per OEM recommended long term reliability. Slightly less thick than ICD. and non conductive

Raw material costs are high for ICD so puts a higher floor limit on pricing. We have a customer that uses a kilo a day who always complains about price and is always on the verge of switching off to something cheaper, he likes the new compound in evaluation so I will probably keep the customer with the new stuff. More sales channels for goop than you would think.

 

wow when i read new compound i was like wut? not because i thought your were going to stop selling ic diamond but because before i read your response i was thinking is there really something better then ic diamond in the works? is that even possible? so is this new compound like traditional pastes or is it like ic diamond (i mean by how much you have to apply) i ask because with my desktop i would have to apply quite a bit of ic diamond to make it work good but if this new paste is like a traditional paste then that would give me something new to do to my old dying crusty computer.

 

We are taking a little bit of a different track on the marketing by defining a maximum possible performance metric vs Paste #1 vs Paste #2 sort of thing. We are fast approaching material limitations (if not already maxed out) and improvements from here on out probably can not be or will not be able to be measured by your average user. More and more we project or expect that future buy decisions will be made on factors such as cost/quality with competitive compounds performing within a few 10th's of a degree of each other with the exception what I call the exotics like ICD and the liquid metals

I actually soldered a sink to my test die (one inch Die @120 W) and with a thermocouple I set through a hole in the sink to measure the top on the joint to establish a maximum performance "solder line"

Chart below - samples are the newly released paste compounds which are pretty good performance wise. I tested all the recently released compounds in the last year the top 3 are of those shown here. So what happens when in a year or two and have 5-10 compounds all testing inside of a degree of each other?

We believe this is where thermal compound becomes kind of a ho hum commodity product with cost/quality(long term reliability) becoming more dominant features in the buy decision as noted.

This pretty much sums up our design target. Cost/Quality/Performance in as close to an optimum balance as we could get

What remains is to see how our lab data translates in field use by actual users

 

2.4 C difference between ICD and sample 1 is not bad when you consider price and also the market as a whole as they prefer buying the cheaper one. Gamers would still prefer ICD to run 2.4 C cooler. They wont mind the price difference a lot. But when it comes to customers who buy a lot then the 2.4 C difference is like nothing as long as they get atleast 3 times the quantity.

 

We would not be surprised to see a pile up on material limits where at the end of the year you will see 5 compounds all within a couple of 10th's of a degree of each other

 

I ordered myself some of this and gonna see what it can do to cool my temps from my current thermal paste.

 

Is this piece of information correct ?

Application
IC Diamond contains a solvent which enhances application to the CPU. For optimum results, after applying a thin coat of IC Diamond on the CPU, DO NOT install the heatsink for 10 minutes to allow solvent to evaporate.

IC Diamond is composed mostly of diamond powder, and as such is quite thick. Proper application is critical to optimum performance. Squeeze onto the center of the CPU an amount of IC Diamond compound about the size of a pea - the center of the CPU is where most heat is concentrated. Place the heatsink on the CPU and push down to spread IC Diamond over the CPU's surface. Clamp the heatsink and power up the PC.

Curing Time
IC Diamond requires minimal time to attain peak performance; in most cases, IC Diamond will reach peak performance after two hours of use.

 

No we dropped the solvent 2 years ago.

 

The reason people are willing to pay for ICD is the fact it is without any doubts the best possible solution bar none. Having another paste that just competes with the best out there I don't think is a good marketing plan unless consumers can 100% be assured what they are getting. I say this as there are marketers out there installing using ICx products that may not differentiate to the consumers well enough..........

Also would that now be either ICD or ICP? If so that is too easily confused........

 

The design point for Perihelion fills a gap in our product line. It is a great high performance overclocking/gaming paste. For the price sensitive it will be roughly half price of the competition for an equivalent volume at the same time matching performance. We manged to maintain the high reliability elements that IC Diamond has so all in all I think it will be very competitive.

I considered doing a giveaway here but Perihelion is slightly less viscous than IC Diamond and not sure how that would work with GPU pad replacement you people have been doing.

We made tooling for a custom tube for ICD24 and Perihelion opening the dispensing tip diameter 50% for easier application so should make some happy in that regard

As far as confusion over naming goes most of the obvious cooling type names have been so worked over which is why you see names like Rocket grease or Prolimatech Meglahelms(be a good question on a sobriety test) number series stuff seems equally confusing X1...X2..3...4

So we ended up with Perihelion, somebody else got the Apogee and somebody else Lucky Stars. Perihelion challenges my Chinese business partner's English and he hates it with a passion and just calls it the "new stuff" but what the hell it's not like people are going to be sitting at the bar having a drink talking Perihelion - The internet is pretty forgiving on the written word

 

Apparently I am a true geek with no real life, as I've been there and done that and sad to say enjoyed it too.........

 

So I used this product and haven't really see a drop in temps My TZS0 is around 115F and my CPU runs around 95F

 

Wondering if the promotions still going on. I just got my Studio 14z, and the fan is always on, frequently ramps up to full blast (even when I'm not doing anything), and is just too darn loud.

I've done a copper shim mod before on another Dell laptop (ugh, why is Dell still using these thermal pads), but am interested in this thermal-compound-only solution.

 

paused it for a month or two, I have too much going on

 

goes with the territory - Cannot figure out why peoples eyes glaze over just before they walk away at a bar or party.... worse is on airplanes when the guy in the seat next to pretends to be asleep rather than talk to me

Thermal grease, what could possibly be more interesting than that?

 

I understand that you should apply a pea size blob for optimum results but what if the surface of the cpu or gpu is oblong as apposed to square. Is it not better in this case to apply a thick line along the length of the processor ? The logic is that if you put a pea size blob in the centre of an oblong surface you will surly end up with a lot of waste compound which will be squeezed out on both of the long edges. If you look at Fig 11 in the Application instructions, as I see it the reason for the problem is that you are trying to cover a square surface or am I wrong? Can someone please clarify?

 

Andrew when do you think that you will be starting the promotion up again? I'd be more than willing to participate in testing it on my P-7915u FX that I just ordered from Best Buy. I'm also considering tearing it down and applying some on the GPU as well as the memory. Is it common to put it on video memory? The heat sink over laps the video memory so I don't see what harm could come from it. Thanks!

 

When I applied ICD7 to my HP laptop, I actually tried it a couple of ways (since I at one point had to put thermal tape back). In the end, I found it best to leave the Video RAM with the thermal pads, because otherwise the VRAM would just make everything else on the heatpipe get warmer.

 

Probably 2-3 weeks -