Official ICD7 Thread

promotion?

 

These are for IC primarily beta field tests. Replacing pads with IC Diamond was an entirely new concept to us and the idea was developed by one of the users on the forum. It's not something that we as a manufacturer would have pursued or could recommend without extensive testing.

Notebooks are arguably one of the more extreme thermal environments and having a targeted group of experienced and inexperienced users provides us with a large base of data across multiple manufacturers and model lines. in other giveaway's we revisit them 6 months -2 years and survey reliability performance etc. As a consequence, after nearly a year of applied tests here at notebook review we are almost ready to validate the use of IC Diamond for GPU pad replacement. IC Diamond application procedure as a best method was directly defined tested and validated through the forum giveaway's.

Out of the 12 or so giveaway's this is the only one that received a 24 carat tubes @ $20 +/- retail +we paid for all shipping and handling. As we get information from user tests we look for opportunities to to share back our experiences and trouble shoot user problems. On a number of forums we ran contact and pressure sub tests that were sent out for lab analysis that provided detailed analysis on their hardware mounts @ $40.00 per shot it was not cheap and I am still doing it as ongoing analysis with individual users. We make every effort to make these tests as beneficial to all parties involved.

We share all user results with forum members pro or con. Some users like the paste and some do not, I make every effort to be impartial, the data results are what they are.

 

I'd test it. I have an infared temp reader so I can give exact temp readings as well.

 

Just going back through this thread and saw this again.

ICD -

The range of change or improvement makes me wonder about the "stock" temps. On a same model system the large variance would seem to show that the stock installations may have lacked a bit of quality control, especially if the stock temps varied widely.

On the other hand, if on the same stock model system (for example the 7811 or7805), the temps are fairly close after ICD is applied (by both experienced and inexperienced end users), that might demonstrate a positive aspect regarding the ease of installation of ICD.

Just wondering if that is something that shows on your analysis?

 

These are just the raw data results. I do analysis for our own interests, some the data is manipulated by us and not appropriate for posting and other data interpretations are proprietary.

There may be something to application variability and manufacturers have been known to screw it up as well as individual users. Sink mounts can misfire, poor contact as well as lighter pressure will also affect performance. On the whole though from user sub-tests we have done 80% get it right out of the gate perhaps partially due to our emphasis to detail where it matters.

Larger delta temp spreads (average 6.01C) have been noted on the laptops and primarily due to higher heat densities (IHS/bare core) use of stock paste which is generally a little less on the performance side of things. Laptops are also high thermal stress environments and although I can not "tag" a particular test for a compound failure although I suspect some exist just because the some of the temps are so high for so long and from past experience I would expect to find some.

for comparison I've updated the overall results. Overall average has not really changed more than a couple of 1/10ths of a degree either way since the beginning. Some newer competitive compounds out in the last couple of months I've tested them all. Improvements tend to be minor as we are pretty much diminishing returns at this point so we shall see how things shake out.

 

Question for IC Diamond.
I have just copper modded my laptop using ICD and was wondering if it is best to wait a couple of days for the paste to cure before I carry out any stress testing? Is there a risk of breaking down the compound due to excessive heat before curing?

 

You should not have any problems if the mount is good and the temps seem fine, so go ahead and stress

 

Is it ok to put ICD on vRAM or am I asking for trouble?

(I want to replace the heatpad with copper and put ICD on both sides of the copper).

 

I've sent an e-mail.

Hopefully the giveaway is still running, I would would like to test it on my P-7811FX.

 

You could, I've done it on my studio 1535. I wouldn't recommend it though. It is hard to determine the right amount to put on and cleaning it of the mobo is difficult and time consuming. I doesn't matter if you spill some but the less you waste the better. I'm actually thinking of putting the original heatpads back on and only do the gpu core with ICD.

Also, using ICD AND copper plates defeats the purpose of ICD. This thread originally started to promote the idea of using ICD instead of copper shims + TIM. Due to its high viscosity, ICD makes this possible as opposed to normal TIM.

On another note, although the OP denied this in a previous post, I also get the impression ICD makes tiny scratches on the die of the CPU/GPU. I've cleaned it off twice to reapply due to unsatisfying results and mine are a little scratched now. Didn't use anything but cotton swabs, coffee filters and a lint free cloth. Wouldn't find it surprising since it has little diamond particles in it and diamond is used on oil drills. Not to mention the excellent polishing characteristics of ICD7 (I made my heatsink shine like a mirror with it, even the aluminum - see pics underneath). Everything still works fine though. Just a heads up.

 

I can tell you my results are spot on. My stock install was fully examined but I ugraded to a p9600 from the stock p8400 so I have no dependable results for that. The MX-2 to ICD is with the p9600. I have done many a hope pc and have used several TIM's over time. While more expensive and different in application ICD is hands down the 100% best TIM out there right now.

Now there could be specialized circumstances where a thicker TIM may offset the angle a HS attempts contact to the chip. If not cared for this could cause the TIM to be essentially slid off the chip (IE a surface the TIM doesn't stick too etc.). This should be extremly rare and in most cases because the TIM is thicker it should actually allow for more preasure of the HS to the chip.

ICD is a great pad replacement, of this I can attest too. I've been thinking of getting another 24 Carrot tube and pulling the HS off with video and pictures just too see and show the condition of the original installation. Even though there has been no temp issues I'd like too see how well its held up.........

 

Thought I would add another result........

U81a, T6500

Stock = Idle 52C, full load 72C
ICD 24 = Idle 50C, Full load 63C

Lost 9C underfull load, Dang.........

Edit I just put a P8400 in the Asus but It wet right in with ICD so I can't comment on a change there.........

 

Hi guys may I ask a question here in ICD7 thread.

So I was searching for a new paste to apply to my laptop.And I have encounter a seller selling 1 gram tube of ICD7 on ebay,which I am quite shock as I never know there is a 1 gram but only 1.5 or 4.8 grams of the product.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190354916254

So I was wondering is this a scam of selling fake product,or there really is a 1 gram tube of ICD7 on sale?

 

Looking at the image, it sure looks like a legitimate tube of ICD7.

I would contact the seller - maybe his listing is a misprint?

 

Think he's selling the one's that came with pc's. Looks like he's got a PC shop. Only IC can confirm if thats true.

 

Possibly.

But the tube does say "Seven Carat Diamond" on it.

 

Also, seller has sold over 10,000 items in last 12 months and has a 100% rating.

 

The guy is a legitimate reseller of ours. Compounds should be compared on volume not weight ... metal weight not the same as diamond weight or ceramic weight in equal volumes

 

Been busy moving our tube filling operation back to the states and designing a New Label with racing stripes, old one was a little bland.

In any event we have twenty more tubes available for test as we would like to increase the sample test results these are what we call bonus tubes when we start up the tube filling process we have to make adjustments as we go so we have some small % that get overfilled. We had some thought of reprocessing but to much hassle so we earmarked them for test samples and some are as much as 50% overfill. They vary somewhat but should have an adequate amount for most testing.

 

I wish to test the ICD7. I already sent an e-mail a little while ago, do I have to send another one?

 

I would also like to test please

 

I have 16 left - PM me your address. They will ship early next week

 

I've been lurking for a while and figure nows the time to register!
See a lot of people have done the T9900 upgrade and that's what I intend to install in the next week or two; Would love to have a tube of ICD so I can do some before and after tests to see what heat is like. I was shocked to see they use no TIM on the GPUs memory chips. Plus I just ran out of AS5, and I'm hearing it's not the best in these machines anyway. Would love to give the latest & greatest a shot. If I sound compatible with the give away, let me know! Can't wait to find out more cool things about this laptop! (I have a P-7805u, by the way. 1920x1200 FTW )

 

I would also be willing to test the ICD7 on my P-7805u with either the stock P8400 or X9100. I'm still using stock TIM which still seems to be holding. The test is for thermal pad replacement correct? Hopefully I fit the requirements as well. I'll send a PM as you have requested moral_hazard to. =]

 

I'd also like to test ICD7 with the stock P8400 and the 9800m GTS if I'm feeling brave.

Promise to post results xD

 

I've heard great results and would also be interested in trying this on my stock Gateway P-7805u cpu and gpu. And also applying it after I upgrade my cpu.

 

@ Capper, and IC_Diamond!!!!

What's up guys !!! Nice to see ya all again!

For anyone that is wondering if this TIM works, I used it in one of the very first tests, way back.....Well okay, a couple of years ago, and installed it on my P7811FX, and wow, what a difference!

 

update - 12 tubes left

 

update-8 tubes left

 

i just want to say that having crushed DIAMONDS on your CPU is the most baller thing ever!

 

PM for tube application sent

 

If I were to put ICD7 on my GPU memory, would I then attach mini heatsinks? What exactly is TIM?

 

TIM = Thermal Interface Material.
Dunno why some folks call it this, I've always just called it thermal paste no matter what the compound.
Maybe some people just like to be confusing.

 

Because all Thermal Interface Material is not paste. LOL.

 

I should have rephrased my last post. I dunno why people refer to thermal paste as TIM; If you go into most computer stores asking for TIM (at least the Microcenter off of Elston in Chicago) they will wonder what the hell you are on. (Even more so if you don't know what TIM stands for.)
Thermal paste is what I've always heard & used. TIM is what I've heard the actual pads called, although I suppose the paste could be called TIM by definition. Fun stuff.

 

Update - 5 tubes left

 

Hopefully it would be okay to test this on my Alienware M17x. I'm really interested in testing this product. :3 It has a Q9000 and two GTX 260M in SLI. Email sent with shipping information. =)

 

I would love to try out this stuff. I have always used some very cheap white gooey thermal paste.

 

pm sent.

very interested to see how this goes.

 

Been looking through the forums and stumbled upon a rare gem here it seems(pun intended). I just recently joined the forum though and it won't let me PM. Can you PM me IC Diamond? I'd definitely be interested in seeing how well this stuff works in the hotter conditions I'm in while I'm deployed through the rest of this summer. I've already got most of the programs being used for benchmarking. Thanks!

Jon

 

I have 3 tubes left

 

Hi sent you a PM a couple weeks back, hope you got it.
Thx!

 

If you sent an address it's in the mail

 

What are the TSZ temps? I'm assuming that these are the same as Temp1 and Temp2 in SpeedFan. Someone in this forum said that applying ICD7 to his CPUs lowered these temps. I couldn't find TSZ anywhere in google.

 

Anyone tried applying this to the GPU?

 

It won't let me PM you IC Diamond. Do you have another way I can message you with the information?

 

Has been going on for a year now -started 4-14-09

 

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Read the first page for some background

 

Here are the same results in text format:

BEFORE

CPU IDLE - 38C 38C
GPU IDLE - 62C

CPU LOAD - 46C 46C
GPU LOAD - 77C

AFTER ICD7 APPLICATION

CPU IDLE - 32C 32C
GPU IDLE - 51C

CPU LOAD - 40C 40C
GPU LOAD - 66C


My full post can be seen here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=6137188#post6137188

Overall 6C drop in CPU and 11C drop in GPU.