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    Official ICD7 Thread

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by Capper5016, Apr 14, 2009.

  1. Necrosan

    Necrosan Notebook Enthusiast

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    Before:

    Idle: GPU 69/70 Celsius, sometimes cycles up to 82, fan turns on, then back down to 70, repeat. Strange. Using 9C.20.00 BIOS.
    CPU 35/36 Celsius

    Loaded: GPU 94/95 Celsius
    CPU 64/65 Celsius


    After: (with ICD7)

    Idle: GPU 49-65 Celsius so far. I put it on GPU and the memory chips. Powermizer is probably on. (I didn't disable it)
    CPU 19-25 Celsius, lower end usually, cpu fan still comes on though even though it runs this cool. Strange?

    Loaded: GPU 69/70 Celsius
    CPU 37-40 Celsius
     
  2. IC Diamond

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    Stock Paste?

    How old was the original mount?

    Condition of the old paste before you changed it? dried out? full contact?
     
  3. PsychoUsagi

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    Not sure about the CPU fan behavior but the GPU is due to the 9C.20 BIOS and its bazaar fan management, it gets rid of that "pulsing" of the fans on the GPU by having them not keep it cool at all and simply kick into full speed when the GPU reaches 80C to push it back down to 70C and then repeats. Also I'm curious did you just put the ICD on the GPU and keep the thermal pad or did you remove it and replace it entirely with ICD? I'll be tearing mine apart next week and should have results the week after that btw, received my ICD last week. =] Thanks Andrew.
     
  4. Necrosan

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    I completely removed the old crap that was on it the best I could, then wiped it to a perfect shine. It was so beautiful. I probably overdid it a bit with the GPU memory, but it's definitely working out great. These are much harder to work on than MBPs.
     
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    It was the stock paste/pads.
    It was just a screw on type mount, if you mean by time, I'd say ~1.5 years.

    Old paste was dried out on actual CPU. There were thermal pads on the northbridge/GPU itself.

    Full contact was still being made it seems with the old paste except for maybe a small spot on the GPU. The ICD7 just kicks that much more, I think. :)

    Forgot to mention, I'm still on stock P8400 2.26ghz for now.

    Thank you again for allowing me to test it for you!
     
  6. andros_forever

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    --Edit: Nevermind, I'm good.

    And actually now after a couple of days of the TIM settling in, my max temps are 67 degrees so far after hours of gaming. Very impressive.
     
  7. IC Diamond

    IC Diamond Company Representative

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    What was the before compound? what were your before temps?
     
  8. ZippoMan

    ZippoMan Notebook Evangelist

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    I bought some ICD7 from Micro Center this afternoon. Can anyone confirm the application? My Core i7 processor is rectangle shape. Is it okay to make a bit of an oval, or a fat line, going horizontal with the width of the chip? I want to make sure the chip is totally covered.
     
  9. andros_forever

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    On my GPU there was some stock compound that had probably wore out over the year that I owned this laptop.

    My previous temperatures previous to this disassembly were ranging from 90 to 95 while gaming. That's why I found it necessary to take apart my machine even though I never did something like this before and was kind of hesitant to do it.

    I did the process very slowly to make sure I made no mistakes and kept track of all my screws and wrote down where they belonged as I disassembled, I also wrote down every step that I took as I was doing it so that when I would build it back up again I would know what to do.

    It took me about 2 hours and I applied some Silver Compound called Dynex that I bought at Best buy to my GPU and the memory chips (there was no stock paste on those 4 chips) as well as the CPU and Heatsink.

    Cleaned out the fans and the vents, there was an amazing buildup of dust in there that an air compressor could never have taken out.

    After the application of this new thermal paste my Gaming temperatures never go over 70 degrees, which is truly astounding. For so long I used to struggle with temperatures and I would be limited to play for half an hour or less because I was worried I would stress my GPU too much temperature wise.

    Before I started reaching 95 degrees, I would still reach high temps around 80-85 degrees while overclocked and now the machine is perfectly cool.

    Best maintenance I have ever made on a computer and very satisfied with it.
     

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  10. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    IMO, you've put a bit too much paste on...
     
  11. ZippoMan

    ZippoMan Notebook Evangelist

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    That picture is from page 1 of this thread, I didn't take the photo.

    I ended up applying a good sized amount on the processor, then second guessed myself and removed the HSF. The amount was perfect. Reapplied and tightened everything down. Good to go. Not to mention everyone agrees it's better to use too much than too little. ICD isn't conductive so too much isn't a big deal.
     
  12. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ok, I didn't realize.

    But yes, why put too much or too little when you could always use your good technique to get a perfect amount:

     
  13. IC Diamond

    IC Diamond Company Representative

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    We have incorporated a new label design on our syringes -tried to add on some racing stripes but they didn't fit

    [​IMG]
     
  14. JohnWhoTwo

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    Looks cooler IMO.


    And that's the idea, right?


    :)
     
  15. IC Diamond

    IC Diamond Company Representative

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    Does not hurt to rethink things every once in a while.

    We brought the packaging operation back to the USA from China recently for a number of reasons. The original labels were off color and should have been closer to the logo design, colors would fade/bleed over time etc. Cheaper is not always better and I like having more control over what leaves our facility.

    The challenge on syringe label design is coming to grips with the fact that you only have less than a 2/10 X 2 inches visible area- there is only space enough for the product name.

    Still hashing out custom syringe issue's but should be ready this summer - stock medical syringes are all industry standard to one needle size for dispensing, around a 2mm opening. On the new design we opened up the tip to 3.5mm so resistance on dispensing is improved so it will come out of the tube with little effort.
     
  16. InfectedSonic

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    what about instead of trying to fit some racing stripes you change the black border into a carbon fiber design?
     
  17. xxERIKxx

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    The new stickers are very nice.
    [​IMG]
    Much higher quality than the older stickers.
     
  18. IC Diamond

    IC Diamond Company Representative

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    xxERIKxx - They are a plastic base & nice to work with, if one gets misapplied it's easy to peel off and re-stick

    You made a badge out of it?
     
  19. xxERIKxx

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    Yes I am using it as a badge and it will last much longer than the old lables.

    Here is my test results with a T5550 and a X9000.

    T5550 @ 1.8GHz/0.950V
    AS5 Idle:34.0 C Load: 48.5 C
    ICD Idle:34.0 C Load: 45.5 C

    X9000 @ 3.0GHz/1.125V
    AS5 Idle:32.4 C Load: 60.2 C
    ICD Idle: 31.8 C Load: 56.8C

    I ran Orthos for 20 mins for the load temps.
     
  20. IC Diamond

    IC Diamond Company Representative

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    Thanks for taking the time to test, much appreciated.

    We get requests for badges occasionally and I pass them on to my partner and unless one of us takes the lead it does not get done. So would this be suitable to send out as a badge? or should we make changes and do a separate print? I am not as familiar with this kind of stuff as my partner but we can discuss.
     
  21. JohnWhoTwo

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    I'd like to see a better image of it.

    Your (IC Diamond's) "avatar" here:

    [​IMG]

    might be better if it added just a little text, such as "Extreme Performance Thermal Compound" (from the tube label, I'm assuming it says that on the new label, too), in my opinion.
     
  22. IC Diamond

    IC Diamond Company Representative

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    We had that on the original label and you are right on that we put "Maximum Performance And Reliability" on the current new label to denote a "class" or category although I have prejudice against over used statements like Supreme, Maximum, Extreme etc. -

    Maybe we should one up everybody by using multiples of power words instead of fighting the tide and use something like " Expert Grade AAA+ Thermal Compound w/ Maximum Extreme Supreme performance with added new Superior Performance"lol, top that
     
  23. JohnWhoTwo

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    Oh, if the new label has "Maximum Performance And Reliability", then, by all means, use that since it is the current phrase.

    Although, "Extreme Performance Thermal Compound" at least tells one what the product is: "Thermal Compound".

    "Expert Grade AAA+ Thermal Compound w/ Maximum Extreme Supreme performance with added new Superior Performance" would certainlly work, but the print will have to be very tiny.

    :)
     
  24. IC Diamond

    IC Diamond Company Representative

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    how's the testing going for those that received samples?

    only 3 have reported in from the last batch of 20 -17 outstanding
     
  25. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I didn't receive mine yet o_O
     
  26. IC Diamond

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    I checked and you are on the list -takes at most 10 days by mail I will send you another tube - Maybe got lost in customs
     
  27. Maxamilus

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    Whoops, forgot where I found this thread.

    Stock paste on an Alienware M15x
    GPU:
    Idle: 43c
    Load: 66c

    IDC
    Idle: 43c
    Load: 64c

    Ambient was pretty chilly - around 19c for the winter. This laptop is known for having some pretty good paste/cooling. I did see during a random warm day we had with an ambient of around 26c that max temps hit around 75c on stock paste. I'll double check/reapply the IDC when it gets warmer.

    Stock paste had full contact, and was only 5 months old, assuming Dell actually makes them on order.
     
  28. maskedformed

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    I still can't find a decent DIY application guide of ICD 7 on a a Gateway FX graphics card...
     
  29. Ryan

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    I didn't either, or am I not on the list?
     
  30. Necrosan

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    It's the first post in the entire gateway subforum.
    Kind of hard to miss unless your eyes are closed.
     
  31. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    I am going to purchase another 2 tubes of 24 carrot, does ICD prefer an outlet or retailer? IE. do you sell the stuff yourselves allowing then for the most profit?
     
  32. Evil Claw

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    Tanware, I got it at Microcenter and they had plenty in stock as well as other brands. I'm sure you could try any computer supply retailer and they should have it.
     
  33. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I received the paste today, thanks :)

    Here are my results using my old HTK-002 paste:
    GPU Idle = 47C
    GPU max = 84C

    CPU Idle, Core1 = 30C and core0 = 32C.
    CPU Max, Core1 = 80C, core0 = 80C

    Now here are the results using ICD:
    GPU Idle = 44C
    GPU max = 76C

    CPU Idle, Core1 = 25C, core0 = 28C.
    CPU Max, Core1 = 72C, core0 = 71C

    There is a pretty big difference, though the HTK-002 paste I used was old (had it for a very long time) so that may have been a factor.

    I did order some different paste on ebay, will compare that to ICD when it arrives.

    BTW, the GPU I used in this test was not my 9600m GT, I used a 9500m GS.
     
  34. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ok, I've just got some MX2 paste.
    [​IMG]

    I have tested it 5 mins ago. Before I share the results (ICD vs MX2), let me just say that HTK-002 is really bad. I say that based not only on my own results, but also on what is written on the back of the MX2 paste:

    [​IMG]


    I did test the ICD paste again today, got exactly the same results as yesterday:
    GPU Idle = 44C
    GPU max = 76C

    CPU Idle, Core1 = 25C, core0 = 28C.
    CPU Max, Core1 = 72C, core0 = 72C

    Now here are the temps with MX2:
    GPU Idle = 44C
    GPU max = 77C

    CPU Idle, Core1 = 25C, core0 = 28C.
    CPU Max, Core1 = 72C, core0 = 72C

    So it looks like there isn't much of a difference between ICD and MX2, though the max GPU temp was 1C cooler with ICD. And I like the consistency of ICD more than MX2.

    All tests were done with my GT627 with a T7300 @ 2.4ghz and 9500m GS @630/468/1260. I used furmark to get my GPU hot and OCCT for the CPU (linpack).

    I applied all of the paste in the same way (put a drop in the middle of the CPU/GPU die and let the heatsink spread it out).

    Here is a photo of the CPU with ICD on it after I put the heatsink on and took it back off (sorry for the bad photo quality):
    [​IMG]

    And here is the GPU (ICD on the core, I left the old HTK paste on the vram since the vram is pretty cool and doesn't even need paste):
    [​IMG]
     
  35. IC Diamond

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    What happened to the last group of 20? 75% still not reporting, 2 months?
     
  36. ofelas

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    I got the paste a couple weeks back, will post my results as soon as I get a chance to install.
     
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    Sorry for the delay. My readings.

    Gateway 7805u (Stock Hardware) Using 3DMark06 (Testing)

    Stock TIM
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    GPU Idle(min) = 46 C GPU (max) = 70 C

    CPU Idle Core 0 = 38 C Core 1 = 38 C
    CPU Max Core 0 = 63 C Core 1 = 50 C

    With ICD 24 (Next Day after application)
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    GPU Idle(min) = 43 C GPU max = 64 C

    CPU Idle Core 0 = 36 C Core 1 = 36 C
    CPU Max Core 0 = 57 C Core 1 = 43 C

    Will post more readings after a few weeks. Thanks for the opportunity.
     
  38. darkmagic

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    any samples still available for testing? I pm'd a while back but never got a response!
     
  39. hongkongphooey

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    UL80VT results
    My comp has an ulv 1.3gz core 2 duo and G210M gpu

    I took measurements using stock setup about 105c for gpu and 60 for cpu
    Applied some MX2 dropped gpu to 75c and cpu to about 57c.
    both temps measured in 27c weather and running 3dmark 06 loop

    these results show me that the original application to the GPU was prob flawed, but many other UL80vt users have similar GPU temps


    Im hopping to get some ICD to also try out and see what kinda results i get. The 75c is great cause the g210m can be overclocked a bunch now!

    Also the MX2 seems to pretty awful toxic stuff. It says its highly toxic to aquatic environment even long after disposal. I know you only use a bit at a time, but with enough people throwing a bit away it adds up.

    For this reason alone im almost tempted to not recommend it. hopefully the ICD isn't so deadly toxic to my froggie friends :(

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     

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    Here's my situation

    I purchased a gateway 7811 fx laptop off of craigslist yesterday, installed crysis on it and played just to test, it ran great on gamer mode (high graphics setting) but i had to cut my session short because i minimized and saw a 92 degrees Celsius reading.

    On monday one of my friends is going to come over and help me open up get rid of the 2 years of dust that the previous owner has probably left in it and maybe apply a thermal compound. Ideally i would like to goto fry's and pick up a thermal compound however, i like the results icd7 has shown. If i purchase it online for 19.99 and the fast shipping which will be probably around 7 and post a nasty review would you be willing to send out another tube so that I can give it to my friend who helped me out since i know that he's constantly building computers.
     
  41. Hello_Moto

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    typo or has "nasty" become slang for "awesome"?!
     
  42. Joey1

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    To be right to the point, nasty has be come widely accepted as a term for awesome, making this claim without evidence seems extremely bold so I have also added a widely acclaimed prestigious website as a source.

    Source: Urban Dictionary

    2. nasty 452 up, 142 down
    1. A word used to describes someone's excellent ability at something or to describe something that is ridiculously good.

    Also bought some Antec silver thermal compound since icd 7 is unavailable at my local fry's. I love the idea of having synthetic mother-ing diamonds in my laptop however, for now Antec's welfare TIM will have to do.
     
  43. bus_dr1v3r

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    Where is the cheapest place to order some ICD7? One of my friends and I are interested in giving it a shot!
     
  44. TANWare

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    Just put in a X9100 running 3.6 GHz @ 1.275v under full load 78C. Very happy with ICD for sure......................
     
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    Hey guys, I have used this stuff and it worked very well but I have a small gripe, it seems to scratch up the die. I used it on a T9400 CPU and my graphics card and both dies got scratched from it, here's a pic. See those scuff marks, they weren't there before I applied ICD-7. I first used it back in March and just recently upgraded my CPU to a T9900, so when i was taking off my heatsink to install the new CPU I saw these marks.

    Did I do something wrong in the installation or has this happened to others? I've replaced the TIM's on many computers before and I've followed more or less the same procedure and I've never seen anything like this before. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with this happening to their setup, and if anyone has any tips so that I can possibly stop this from happening again. I've stopped using ICD-7 for now just to figure out what's going on, maybe I have a bad batch or something.
     
  46. bus_dr1v3r

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    I'm guessing the synthetic diamonds are harder than the nickel plating. I'm not sure why it would move enough to scuff it like that though. I'm still going to put it on mine! :D
     
  47. jrs89

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    Haha, don't get me wrong, its terrific stuff, but I'm just skittish about using it again as I'm not sure if my batch is messed up or something.
     
  48. xxERIKxx

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    Icd7 scratched my X9000 also but not as bad as that pic.
     
  49. Euclid

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    If you are a looking for a place to order it:
    IC Diamond 7 Thermal Compound [TC-IDC7] - $5.49 : Burrows Solutions

    The guy also ships internationally and answered my email within 5 minutes.
    Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with this store and I just found it through google shopping.

    Update: 3 Business days later I got the package, not bad for a delivery from Ohio to Switzerland :)
     
  50. bus_dr1v3r

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    I ended up buying from FrozenCPU. I have to say that so far I'm in love. I just replaced my AS5 with ICD7 and all of my temps have lowered under load and idle. Definitely worth the ~3 hours of tear down and $10(including shipping).

    I just have to say that I dropped 8 degrees under load on the cpu and 7 degrees on the gpu.
     
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