P-7805u MAX ram 8gb or 4gb

Hey guys Question since P-7805u has a Mobile Intel® PM45 board
Shouldn't the maximum amount of ram supported be 8gb instead of 4gb?



If its 8gb its definitely an attractive buy.

http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668231.php

http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=35515

 

I think it's' a typo on Intel's part. Many notebook with the PM45 chipset can support 8gb of ram.

 

but does anyone know if this can for sure?

 

Being that 4GB sodimms are 500 bucks a pop I'd say it'll be a while before anyone tries. It SHOULD support the ram, and I see little reason it won't, but you never know.

 

Yeah, and rarely ever does a computer utilize just 4, unless stress tested.

 

From what I recall, the FX series will only handle 4GB Max. Mobo restricted.. ya don't need any more anyhow.

 

8gb ram = expensive bragging rights

 

E-peen Not the same as E-wrecked..but it can be e-wrecked.

 

Or you can be like me where im a 3d animator and 4gb of ram gets filled up by zbrush in about 2 seconds. 32gb on the desktop is nice but more is needed. The laptop is a mobile backup.

But the 7805u is AMAZING for the price and i love it!

 

Jesus... 32?!?!

 

Yep, graphic design, and the 3D apps can really be a pain in the a** especially when it comes to RAM. 6GB is still... LOL, not enough. Really, I've seen it all. There was one time I opened a single Photoshop .psd file and it immediately ate 6GB of it.

In all, for the average joe, 3-4GB is enough.

In all, the PM45 chipsets -should- be able to support 8GB, my only concern is whether the BIOS is allowing full access to it.

The only way to confirm that it works is to try.

 

Honestly mate, if your running programs where "32gb on the desktop is nice but more is needed" then a laptop with even 8gigs of ram is worthless to you as a back up, so its still largely a moot point.

 

More RAM please...

From an earlier post on the topic...

I have customers who actually demo their 3D Motion Capture software using multiple cameras connected to a laptop.

 

lol guys I simply asked the question not because of E- or anything but because of future expandability.

I have P-6860FX and was considering selling it off and buying the 7805u. But since teh 6860 is capped at 4gb of ram, theres not much point in getting a 7805u and not going past that should the need arise.

That need could easily arise for many reasons vista is memory hungry + it would be the 64bit version + games use up a ton of memory. You can very easily go past 4gb within a year or 2 in that scenario.

Thats the only reason I asked.

 

If all you're doing is playing games on it, then 4GB is overkill.

Me, I used to crash my older Gateway M-6750 all the time working in Photoshop CS3 because I ran out of memory. I have this one pin-up I've done that was so huge that I had to edit the model and the background elements separately and then combine the two (after flattenting each in their respective files) in a separate PSD file.

I've already managed to lock up my 7805u doing some edits. As soon as 4GB SODIMMs drop in price (probably the $100-$200 range) I'm upgrading to 8GB and the 64-bit version of Photoshop CS4 (or whatever version is available by then).

From what I can see, the 78xx series is the first of the FX line to use the PM45 chipset too. Previous FX's used the PM965 which had a limit of 4GB of RAM. It wasn't a soft-lock, but a limitation of the chipset that prevented you from going past 4GB. With the PM45 chipset in the 78xx series, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to get to 8GB.

 

Cheapest place I could find 4GB SODIMMs at is Provantage:

http://www.provantage.com/crucial-technology-memory-ct51264bc1067~7CIAL60T.htm

It's actually cheaper to buy it from them than to buy it from Crucial. :/

Off the cuff I checked Crucial's site, and their memory locator is saying that the max the system will take is 4GB. I'm willing to bet that they're playing it safe and just going by what Gateway is telling them.

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=P-7805u FX Edition&pl=Gateway&cat=RAM

The max memory issue is probably the same thing as with the CPU issue. Gateway specs it to only have X amount, but you can go past the specs (assuming the chipset supports it, and in this case does).

I'm hoping the price drops on those 4GB SODIMMs in the next six months. I don't mind being a guinea pig on this one. Worst case, if it don't work I'll just send the RAM back.

 

Wow that's already a substantial drop, I literally was looking at that module less than a month ago probably for high 400s. I suspect 4gb sodimm ddr3 will drop into the 200 a stick range within 3-4 months.

 

4gb is not overkill for games.
With Vista 64 and a recent game its perfect.

Lets say A NEW NEW game uses up about 2gb and you have vista sucking about 1gb or so.
That leaves you with approx 1gb left.
You always want to have more Ram then whats being used.

2gb was considered needed for games in oh IDK about 2005 or 4.

3-4gb is ATLEAST what you want in a new system for games

HECK Low end Pc's are shipping with 2gb. Just look in best buy ads. Theres many even nongaming pc's shipping with 6gb and theres some in there with 8gb. Which means the era of 4gb is minimum for a new gaming system.
BUt this has to do with pc's so whats my point? the point is theres a push for more Ram. PC manufactures have standardized 2gb-8gb in pc's and game developers will make soon make use of it.
I don't think it will be long before you see 4gb as the recommended spec. In that case you may want slightly more.

So 4gb is perfect nowadays, but like I said i was talking about future.

Its always good to have the option of upgrading.

 

on the 7805 how well does zbrush and other 3d applications work on it? Thats why I am looking at this laptop. I have a great desktop but its huge and I need a computer to take with me to LA. I am going to be doing a internship there this summer and need something that I can bring with me.

 

E-wrecked, no offence but you are wrong, all P7800 series models support 8GB RAM. The only what holds from putting 8GB into the these laptops is the price. My cousin has the 7805 with exactly the same setup as mine except for 8GB Ram and it works.
You can find the info the 7800 series support 8 gigs on the Gateway site.

 

I'm not very confident in the Gateway website's specifications on the P-7800 series. While they show the P-7805u h e r e when you go to look up documentation for the models they show the 7800 (series), the 7801u, the 7811, and the 7812j h e r e, and do not show the 7805u separately.

Most of the time on the site it shows that the 78xx's have 4G RAM and states 4G RAM is the maximum, however, the specs for the 7800 series h e r e shows that it can handle 2 x 4G RAM sticks.

It also shows the 7800 series does not handle a Quad core on that last spec page, yet we know the 7808u does.

I suspect we will only know for sure when someone actually tries 2 of the 4G RAM sticks.

 

I wouldn't take Crucial's website as gospel, I have 2G of RAM in an older Dell Inspiron 5100 that both Dell and Crucial claim will only handle 1G. I'd take the specs from the hardware (motherboard, chipset, etc) over the manufacturer's specs.

 

The cheapest price I could find on a fast search was $650.00 for two 4 gig sticks. At that price 8 gigs here is going to wait a while.........

 

They support 8GB. 100% definite.

 

Mobile nelahem should bring those prices down quite a bit, DDR3 sodimms are just now starting to become common in mid-range notebooks. The 4gb modules have dropped from around 600 a pop to 350 a pop in less than 6 months already.

 

Considering how much I use to pay for so-dimms, when they are around $200 a pop it will be reasonable. Not saying I'll buy them then though.

I have rarely actually used all 4GB, mostly hit the limits of the CPU. On my desktop with my overclocked quad ([email protected]) and 4GB (DDR2 1066), I wasn't able to hit it limits and that included ripping, converting, compressing, video and games running at the same time. As soon as an additional 4GB drop under $30 (2x2GB DDR2 1066), I'll pick up some more.

 

8gb works like a charm. One of the computers I am selling on ebay has x9100 and 8gb ram. That system is by far the fastest gateway fx system ever.

 

Nice.

That confirms 8G RAM.

Thanks alitunay.

 

I amazed that you are being stingy about your budget for a laptop if you are a 3d animator. You should be looking at laptop in the $2000-$3000 range if you're trying to work on the go. Sager, Dell XPS and others are more than happy to provide you with your enthusiast level demands.

 

And it can be doubled as a space heater!!!!

Good to know the 7805 can take 8 Gig...when it deems necessary...2 years from now

 

I've used a little over 6 gigs in my desktops running multiple instances of a game, I could probably use all 8 running more or at higher settings.

 

spec says 200 pin.

but ddr3 comes in 204 pin

can anyone confirm this?

 

so it is 100% confirmed that the p-7805u can do 8gb of ram?? just want to confirm before i spend all the money on the ram

 

Yes, it is confirmed.

 

Way too expensive!!!!!!!! while it is down a bit and you can find them for about 660 for the kit. You don't get enough of a boost to justify the cost, at least for a casual and most power users.

For the same cost or less you would be better off with SSD(s).................

 

more RAM = faster program start or more RAM = better multi-tasking?

Does having a SSD installed make any difference to having 4GB vs 8GB RAM in terms of performance boost?

 

4 GB is enough for me. I had a desktop with 256 MB, then doubled it to 512 MB, then made the jump to 4 GB. biiiiiiiiiiig difference

 

Most programs do not even push into virtual memory let alone use the entire 4 gigs. For most users haveing a fast SSD makes alot more sence..........

 

thought as much. cheers.

 

More RAM are aimed towards users with high workstation demands, and the workstation application itself, the tasks being carried out with it, that extra RAM is beneficial with it.

The jump from 4 - 8GB isn't significant in increasing bootup times. (See sig.), it allows you to multitask more, and also allowing, the application like Photoshop CS4 to use all 8GB fully - also depends on the task being done. I use 6 - 7GB everyday on my tasks, so therefore it's beneficial for users like me to have 8GB.

For the everyday user, 4GB is enough coupled with a fast SSD.

 

Agreed users like you. If a user is in NEEd of the 8 gigs and try and run on only 4 gigs they will know it immediately................

 

Hello ppl - great forum! My P-7805u was a TD refurb that arrived in terrific shape, everyone already knows it's an awesome deal.

Anyway, I'm going to try 8GB, ordered tonight from here:

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=W1066SB4GH&c=fr&pid

Ya, it's expensive - but comparing if I configured a custom laptop with what I'm putting into this one, I'd still come out way ahead. I'm also putting in a T9800 (ES) and a Blu-ray combo. I've already striped another 320GB HD. I'll let everyone know how it all turns out when I'm finished slapping everything together. Wish me luck.....

 

Just a question for you...
Do you actually do anything that requires 8GB of RAM? Gaming and "normal" use will be perfectly fine at 4GB of RAM. 8 is only really required if your doing alot of visual art or CAD work.

Its your money, so i wont tell you how to spend it... but if you dont require the extra RAM it really is a total waste of money

 

I personally have experienced both 4 & 8GB in a desktop rig with Vista x64. 8GB just seems to be better at "smoothing" everything out - regardless of whether I'm gaming, encoding, watching, browsing, listening, and eh.... multitasking. I'm not necessarily trying to justify 8GB, but if the option's there and you got the dough - go for it!

 

Im my personal experience I suggest you: DONT BUY IT, get an SSD, I got 8gb because it was cheap (in my case) and I run like 4 virtual machines at the same time, heavy multitasking, insane math calculations, hardcore logic representations, I modify very heavy files, I code programs that use big memory directions... Unless you know that it will be worth it get it if not just get an ssd, in regular tasks you will not even see a 10% of performance increase sometimes there wont be any perfomance increase.

Damn I guess I should start a thread explaining that getting 8gb is not better for regular users...

 

hey effexx, just wondering how the 8gb of ram in the gateway p-7805u worked out, did the bios and os recognize the full 8gb, im thinking about getting 8gb for mine, but i want to be completely sure it does first...thanks

 

Yes, mymiddlenameisillega, we have confirmed that 8G RAM will run in a 7805.

Look back at Alitunay's posts in this thread.

 

Guys, I did a search on google about the model P-7807u, but got no answer...

Reviews and the official gateway website are saying that P-7807u has a maximum of 4gb only, but I think that's not a typo, because I just saw so many reviews indicating that...

Everyone else who got the P-7807u, can you guys say that it supports 8gb upgrade? Also, the only difference regarding this and 7805u is the better CPU for 7807?

Thanks!

 

Even 7805 showed max 4 GB but it supports 8GB as confirmed in previous posts. So will 7807.

 

Thanks Maverick!

Would just like to ask one thing: you got the Full HD screen, which I think it's fantastic, but doesn't it bother when reading some texts for example, in a 17" screen? Considering to get a full hd screen for a bit more, but I'm worried that I'd prefer the 1440x900 one.