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    Please stop me from throwing my 7805 threw the wall

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by 780Cinco, May 13, 2009.

  1. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I have tried everything and I just cant figure out why my wireless connection will not work. I configured my linksys router and my girlfriends $500 HP laptop can connect and stay connected with excellent connectivity. Mine, on the other hand, will take 3 minutes to connect and have "limited" access:local only. The packets sent and received look ok and it sits at 11MB for 30 seconds then loses the signal completely. The laptop is stationary in the next room 25 feet away? It then trys to reconnect and takes 3 minutes just to do the same thing over again ; (???

    The IPv6 connectivity is "limited"

    Any help?
     
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    Have you tried updating to the latest wireless driver?
     
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    IPv6 will remain limited, because version 6 has not been widely implemented.
     
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    f4ding Laptop Owner

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    Yea, try disable that and let it use IPv4.
     
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    Well after carefully reviewing your message I'm going to say..... STOP IT! or I'll throw you through a wall!

    make sure you have the current drivers... and that your router is proper bandwith (a,b,or g) make sure it can link with your card :)... Uh after that try resetting the modem, changing the encription type on your password some cards dont work with certain encryption types... there's so many things, and believe me as someone who has a had alot of problems with internet connectivity
     
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    yea wireless is a b!tch, just make sure drivers are up to date yadeeyaddeyaa.

    just keep fiddling with the settings, maybe see what the hp settings are, and go into the router and make sure you MAC address is not blocked or anything, as that will boot you off the network.
     
  7. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    I just installed the auto update Intel driver WiFI Link 5100 AGN? It is driver 12.2.0.11

    I have reset the modem many a time. How come my girlfriend HP picks it and is strong all day long? It is a WPA-Pre-Shared Key. It connects but as limited access local only then loses connectivity. I try to diagnose and one option is my "network adapter may be a problem"

    How do I disable IPv4?

    Thanks guys any other options im dying here...and no it will not go through the wall just as of yet
     
  8. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Disabling IPv4 did not work.


    It sits on "identifying(public network)" then connects to my router then connects the the internet at like 1 or 2mb then disconnects 30 seconds later. Then trys again and the process just loops. The sent packets are much lower than the recieved. MAC adress is cloned and enabled (not blocked)
     
  9. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Its like it cant identify the router even though the entire time it says the signal is excellent, but eventually identifys it, then connects to the internet, then drops off. Windows network diagnostic says "there might be a problem with one or more network adapters on this computer"

    The signal strength is always excellent the access is LOCAL ONLY rather than LOCAL AND INTERNET I think thats the issue??
     
  10. MrButterBiscuits

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    I have very very similiar problems often.... Who is you ISP?
     
  11. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Cox

    Right now I have it connected via the ethernet cord and it runs at 100Mbps! IPv4 is the internet and IPv6 is local and the packets sent/recieved are great numbers. I just dont understand how my girlfriends $500 HP can pick up my router in 5 seconds and keep a speed of 11Mbps all day long yet I cant even connect? It is obviously not the router rather a incampatabilty issue with my WiFi card or this WiFi card blows...??

    My card -Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN
    Her card-She has a AR5007 WiFi Adapter
     
  12. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Indrek

    "What type of wireless signal does your router broadcast - a, b, g or n? Whichever it is, make sure your wireless card supports it. For instance, many laptops still don't support type n, and it might be possible that your router was shipped with it enabled by default."

    How do I check what signal my router broadcasts? I will try a different type of encryption as well. It def. is not a reception issue bc i tried it literally right next to the router! I will try disabling IPv6 as well. Be right back
     
  13. 780Cinco

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    Disabling IPv6 did nothing and I changed the encryption to nothing at all and still no dice..same scenerio...Hmmm this really sucks :(
     
  14. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry WAY off topic but when I first cycle my brand new battery does it matter if I drain it on performance mode or balanced battery mode or whatever? Also, the forst time should I drain it until the laptop shuts off? I know full drains below 10% are bad for these Li ion batteries but is it ok since this is the 1rst cycle and I am starting its memory? Or better to stop it at 10% and start recharging? Thanks. dont want to get too far off topic since Im still having the wireless issue ; (
     
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    1. update your drivers
    2. check your tcp/ip settings (make sure if your DHCP that your not using a static ip)
    3. DISABLE IPv6
    4. If all else fails reset the router
     
  16. Syngensmyth

    Syngensmyth In All Seriousness

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    There is 12.4.0.21 driver, slightly newer. Sorry no link.
     
  17. AGlobalThreatsK

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    If the router is broadcasting and connecting fine to other computers then the problem is not the router.

    You shouldn't need to disable IPV6. It's not in use yet, but that doesn't mean you need to disable it.

    I had to use the newest drivers (12.4 like posted above) and the intel wifi manager, the windows wifi manager would not work, it wouldn't pick up any signals even when it had priority.

    Don't forget to restart after updating drivers. If the newest drivers dont work and the intel wifi manager and windows wifi manager dont work, you might want to try rolling back the drivers (Restarting after each roll-back) until you get the message that there are no previous drivers installed. Obviously you will want to check if you can connect after every roll-back, if you go through all of them and still can't connect, completely uninstall the device and then reinstall the newest drivers and software after restarting.

    It's definitely best to troubleshoot next to the router, you want to be sure there is nothing interrupting the signal.
     
  18. Tybalt39

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    Just to keep it simple, what is the model and revision number of the router? Also, your computer network card is 802.11n. All of the Pxxxx-FX laptops were/are "N" with backwards compatibility with B and G (not certain about A).
     
  19. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks everyone.

    I believe the router is a 802.11 b or g? I will check. Thing is, as AglobalThreat stated, it is not the router bc other laptops can find it and surf all day at 11mbps.

    AS for the battery. DO these 9 cells come precycled from the factory? I stuck mine in for the first time and it was at 90%. I charged to 100% then drained it to 1% on performance mode then recharged to 100% and tuirned the laptop off and pulled the AC plug. Is the next step to drain it to 40% and put it in the fridge? Think thats a sufficient cycle for the mem? Thanks

    I will try everyones ideas tonight and post back.
     
  20. wootage

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    There's one more variable, routers come with different chips (Atheros, Broadcom) and so do wireless cards, and there have been compatibility issues when you are using different chips. For example, using Wireless N, you need to use the same chip in the router and card to get the fancy-schmancy dual-band and other high-speed stuff to work.

    I'd definitely check the router, set it to G mode only, make sure your wireless card is set to allow G, check the type of chip in the router (try looking here, it has a crapload of router info - http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices ), and try googling for problems between your particular router / chipset and wireless model.

    Sorry for the data dump, but wireless either works really well or is a major PIA to figure out :(
     
  21. wootage

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    Oh by the way, your girlfriend's laptop is connecting at B speeds from what you say. So if you set it to G as I suggested, you might want to make sure she can connect at G and not just at B.
     
  22. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks wootage-

    How do i set the router to a mode such as "g" and also how do I set my wirless to allow"g" in that case?
     
  23. 780Cinco

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    Lol like I said before... I thought that might have been the problem, what is your notebook card? or is it compatible with a,b,g?
     
  25. 780Cinco

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    how do i check what my norebook card is...and if it compatable?
     
  26. MrButterBiscuits

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    What's the name of your card?
     
  27. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Specs from CNET review say the 7805u has

    Wireless capabilities IEEE 802.11g (ITS A "G")

    So how do i set the card to "b" or set the router to "g"

    what should i do?
     
  28. MrButterBiscuits

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    You can't set a router or a card to a certain output... It's just set that way... You'll have to either buy a new card or I would recommend getting a router that has Multi support (or does it?)
     
  29. 780Cinco

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    Not sure i will check..

    Anyone have a comment on this...thanks everyone is very helpful!

    "AS for the battery. DO these 9 cells come precycled from the factory? I stuck mine in for the first time and it was at 90%. I charged to 100% then drained it to 1% on performance mode then recharged to 100% and tuirned the laptop off and pulled the AC plug. Is the next step to drain it to 40% and put it in the fridge? Think thats a sufficient cycle for the mem? Thanks"
     
  30. xarthos

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    Buy a router that supports a,b,g,n and you should be fine. You could always borrow your neighbor's router as a test.
     
  31. AGlobalThreatsK

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    You can change the card settings by going into the Advanced Tab of the wireless card properties in Device Manager. I don't have my P7801 in front of me so I can't say exactly what value you need to change but its not hard to find. You may also be able to change the router settings through the router configuration utility (Probably http based 192.168.1.1 or something, you will most likely need username/password to login). Obviously you will be limited by the fact you have a B router, if it doesn't support G, you can't set it to G. Both of the settings for the router and wireless card are most likely currently set to Auto or Auto-Negotiate.

    Read your gateway P78** series manual :)

    It is recommended to drain the battery a few times during the first few weeks/months of ownership to encourage a long life for the battery in the future.
     
  32. madmook

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    Don't stress too much about battery conditioning. Its best to just ignore all of that jazz and use your laptop like normal. If you're not going to use the battery for a while, then based on what I've read, its fine just to store it with a 40-60% charge level at room temperature.

    As for your wireless issue, my Samsung R610 also has that Intel 5100AGN card. As far as I know, it should be able to connect to 802.11b networks just fine. I just use the latest drivers without the Intel configuration programs, and use the built-in Windows network managing. Check these settings:

    1) In device manager, check the 5100 card properties to make sure the wireless mode is set to allow a/b/g modes.

    2) Try installing the latest drivers. I have version 12.4.0.21, dated 3/4/09.

    3) Make sure the IPv4 properties are set to automatically obtain an IP address.

    See the attached photo.
    [​IMG]
     
  33. 780Cinco

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    Thanks guys. madmook I will def. check device manager and check steps 1-3

    On reviews of the 7805u it claims the WiFi card is only a,g,n but no b! Is that right or just a mis-spec
     
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    Try manually input your router settings (strange i know) but when i connect to routers with the intel 5100 it does exact same as yours, since im on WEP i have to input all 62 or so digits of my code.

    That might help.
     
  35. 780Cinco

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    Im on a WPA and i input the password every time...I set it to 128bit WEP and wrote in the 24 characters and still the same issue ; (
     
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    Try with no password?
     
  37. 780Cinco

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    Ya even tried that ; (
     
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    Check your power settings in the control panel. Make sure your wireless setting is set to maximum power both plugged in and on battery power.
     
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    Do you have Norton installed? If so, try disabling the firewall or Norton all together.
     
  40. 780Cinco

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    No to Norton...Avira AV...tried disabling the firewall ; (
     
  41. 780Cinco

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    Its official...I have tried every single idea in trouble shooting this issue...no dice...this sadens me ; (
     
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    Have you tried using a different wireless utility? I was recommended http://wifihopper.com/ although I'm not sure if it works with Vista 64 (But theres also lots of other programs including the provided intel software that comes with the new 12.4 driver.
     
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    Have you taken everything down to the most basic configuration possible (ie: no security or passwords, no MAC filtering or port blocking) just factory default settings on the router? Then no security on the lappy? If this works, you can add various layers of security later.

    Your best bet is to get a new router. I've gone through four of them over the last few years trying to get the best connection speed and reliability. Started with "B", then "Pre-N", then "N", now simultaneous dual-band "N" (keeps everyone else off of my "high speed" game channel).
     
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    Just as an FYI... The BEFW1154 doesn't support WPA. I can't even find a support page on the Linksys website for this model. Again, it may be time to upgrade...

    Here's a link to the manual from another site...
     
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    Yea that router is way past its prime.
     
  46. 780Cinco

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    Oh trust me i know its past its prime...like 4 yrs past ; )

    So what do you guys recommend would be the best router for this Intel 5100AGN card then? G? N? Im looking for cheap but good! Thanks

    (ps) the laptop will never be more than 30 feet away...my condos only 700 sq feet!
     
  47. xarthos

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    First... it isn't your computer dont' throw it anywhere. If you are looking for cheap solution you could get a Wireless G that supports b as well and it should run about 30 dollars or maybe even less. For 50-60 dollars I saw a wireless N that supports b on amazon. You should not be paying more than 60 dollars and it should fix the issues you are running into.

    Verify: you did go somewhere else to connect to another network with this laptop right? If it worked fine this is your answer. Hit a panera bread or other place that has free wifi and check it.

    I like linksys for routers. I don't buy any other types.
     
  48. Tybalt39

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    Any router that fully supports 802.11n will only reach it's maximum speed and security with an exclusively "n" network. If you want b & g networks you will have to compromise the n network.

    Unless....

    You go with a simultaneous dual-channel router with n on one channel and everything else on the other. Separate security settings for each channel since b devices don't support WPA2 (for the most part). There may be exceptions...

    YYMV just my $0.02
     
  49. 780Cinco

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    Well since my card is a G card i will just get a under $50 G router that supports b for the wifey....any sugg. on brands and models? I was thinking linksys or 2wire
     
  50. AGlobalThreatsK

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    Ive had good experiences with netgear wireless routers as well

    Although the ones I use are the more expensive ones (Gigabit+N)
     
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