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    Please stop me from throwing my 7805 threw the wall

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by 780Cinco, May 13, 2009.

  1. Tybalt39

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    You're not referring to the P7805U are you? That laptop is definitely 802.11n. It is backwards compatible to g and b, but it can certainly make use of the extra bandwidth of n.
     
  2. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes I am talking about my 7805u....so it is N? If so whats the cheapest/best router for it? Thanks
     
  3. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    K I am going to go buy a "n" router as Tybalt suggested. What are some cheap ones (model #'s) that you guys are running your 7805's with?
     
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    just go to bestbuy's website or what not and look for cheap N routers, they are usually pretty good for routers.

    I have a Dlink DIR665 EXTREME N ROUTER, it was $120 on sale but it is not flaky whatsoever, it sooo fast, and has alot of custom options.
     
  5. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    So I am about to go to best buy...IS MY CARD COMPATABLE WITH A G ROUTER? I dont have the money for a N router unless it is absolutey the way to go and is MUCH more beneficial than the G routers. Is it ok and worth it buy the G?

    I heard the WRT54G v.1-4 router is good

    Tybalt said my 7805u is backwards compatable to g routers? Please clarify!

    Edit: I am on my neighbors 802.11g unsecured network as I type this but it is at 2 bars...very slow...and I dont know which neighbor it is...so this only leads me to believe that its fine to get a g router...unless someone can chime in and SAY NO GET THE N ROUTER FOR THE 7805U!!!!! ;0
     
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    All I read is that the Intel 5100AGN is a pretty problematic card. In the near future I wouldnt mind getting a better card in the 7805. Is it hard to take the Intel card out and swap in a new one? What is all invloved? Also, what would be a good solid card to upgrade to? Thanks guys
     
  7. 780Cinco

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    K i ended up just getting the Linksys Wireless-N router Model WRT160N

    I configured it and Im connected at 72mbps...question...when i go to my device manager, and look under the advanced tab, under wireless mode, it set at 802.11 a,b,g?? Shouldnt it be set to 802.11n mode? or is that already enabled (as it states in the "value" box when clicking on 802.11n mode)

    Just want to make sure Im connecting and using n mode and not g etc..
     
  8. madmook

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    Yes if its over 54mbps its probably connected to an N network. I used to use a WRT160N, and it was overall pretty stable, shouldn't cause you any major problems. Range wasn't too impressive, but should provide good enough throughput in a small condo.

    And I'm pretty sure ALL wifi N cards are backwards-compatible with the older G & B networks. The N spec isn't finalized, ya know?
     
  9. Syngensmyth

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    My 7811 has Intel 5100AGN and it connects to everything I have tried. Connecting at N speed is another matter. The only N router I have tried is Belkin's Pre-N and I never received over G speed. But it still connected flawlessly at G speed. I suspect the Belkin's early router didn't have the compatibilities down yet and they offer not firmware updates for it. Lazy SOB''s.

    Just putting in my two cents on no problems with my 5100AGN card. If I did have a problem, I would replace it with Intel's 5300.
     
  10. Tybalt39

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    The Belkin pre-N used a radio from Airgo. Airgo is no longer on the approved vendors list for the current revision of 802.11n (at least that is what I was told). The Belkin pre-N was pretty much the same as what other manufacturers called their "Super G" routers. It could give speeds up to 108Mb/s when used with the matching card. The difference was it supported MIMO technology (the three-antennae configuration you see on many of the more expensive WiFi routers). When used with any other card (not based on the Airgo radio) you would only receive G speeds, but you still got the advantage of better range from MIMO.

    This was my second router (after my Linksys 802.11b but before the D-Link 655). It required regular reboots and couldn't stay stable for more than a couple of days before requiring a power cycle. Granted, I had the first released version. There was a second version with slightly different hardware that still sold under the same model number.

    FYI... The D-Link 655 is a great router (very stable, never gave any problems). The only reason I changed was to get Simultaneous Dual-Channel capability; didn't want to give up any speed on my N channel while letting my Wii and other equipment connect.
     
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    If you set the router for N only you will get better speeds, but anyone that doesn't have an N card will not be able to connect. That is the advantage of the Simultaneous Dual-Channel routers; they allow a dedicated N channel for best speed/security while still letting the older technology connect.
     
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    If I understand correctly, the 5100 card uses only two antennae where the 5300 uses three. On a dedicated N router, the 5100 should max out at 270Mb/s where the 5300 should be able to achieve the current max of 300Mb/s. Again, this is all from memory without double checking my facts. YMMV

    (Three posts in a row on the same topic.... I'm feeling verbose today!)
     
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    Yes, I also have a Linksys WRT610N, but I'm currently using a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH (been on a router kick lately). Kind of a step down, as it does not have the simultaneous 5ghz band, but I was having Playstation 3 connectivity issues with Linksys. And the WRT610N gets pretty warm/hot during normal usage...
     
  14. Syngensmyth

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    WoW - "Tybalt39 The Loquacious" :)

    So is the D-Link 655 good enough or is the WRT610N that much better? (thinking of springing for a new one)

    Is this NewEgg offering adequate?

    Is there any way to use a range extender and maintain N status?
     
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    Have not used the DIR-655, but I have tried the D-Link DIR-825, which is their model with simultaneous 5ghz band, and it sucked hard. Unimpressive range, flaky connectivity, inconsistent throughput, just a bad experience overall. I will never buy another D-Link wifi router.
     
  16. 780Cinco

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    K So il assume that Im using the benefits of the N Network as i am connected at 72 mbps to this WRT160N router...sometimes it jumps down to 54mbps though for a short time? (Without me moving the laptop) Hmmmm>
     
  17. Tybalt39

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    I'll take your word on this. I have the router (and cable modem) installed in the "spare" bedroom out of sight, so I never actually see it or get close enough to notice heat issues. Running solid for almost eight months without a reset. My WiFi gets constant usage as I let some of my neighbors use my connection (G only :D) while I am constantly downloading movies, TV shows, Audiobooks, etc. (Got to love the Comcast 20Mb connection :biggrin:)
     
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    I actually had good luck with my D-Link DIR-655. Rock-solid performance with never a reset. $91 is a good price (paid $150 at Costco last July). It's now replacing a "dead" Netgear at a friends house until I can resurrect her router.
     
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