The New Gateway Gaming Laptop is HERE ( P-7801u)

P-7801u

Model
Brand Gateway
Model P-7801u
Part# LX.W430X.001
General
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 2.26G
Screen 17" WUXGA
Memory Size 4GB DDR3
Hard Disk 320GB
Optical Drive DVD Super Multi
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS
Video Memory 1024MB
CPU
CPU Type Intel Core 2 Duo
CPU Speed P8400(2.26GHz)
CPU FSB 1066MHz
CPU L2 Cache 3MB
Chipset
Chipset Intel PM45
Display
Screen Size 17.0"
Wide Screen Support Yes
Display Type Wide UXGA
Resolution 1920 x 1200
Operating Systems
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Graphics
GPU/VPU NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS
Video Memory Dedicated 1024MB
Graphic Type Dedicated Card
Hard Drive
HDD 320GB
HD RPM 7200rpm
Memory
Memory Speed DDR3 1066
Memory 4GB
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi
Optical Drive Interface Integrated
Communications
WLAN Intel 5100 a/g/n
Ports
Video Port 1 x VGA, 1 x HDMI
Supplemental Drive
Webcam Yes
Power
Battery 9-cell lithium ion

PRICE:$1,699.99

Buy it from here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101166


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*twitch*

So P7811 users were the "test group?" That VGA/HDMI port would sure come in handy. Given the 1GB 9800GTS I'd assume this is the dual-core version of the quad-core Packard Bell. And if that is true, more than likely the heatsink/socket will accomodate a quad on this'un.

 

are you ****ING TESTING ME?!

 

1700? OUCH.

Is Gateway unaware of a certain asus laptop with a 9800M that is 1250$?

(I think Gateway are trying to get a profit this time.)

 

GT? GTS? which?

 

9800 GS. Check the Asus forums.

 

correct me if im wrong, isnt that the lowest version of the 9800?

 

Aha said the hurricane to the coconut tree, but isn't that Asus the 15 inch model, wheras the Gateway is a 17 inch?

 

Keep in mind, some people want portability (actually most people). 15in might heavily appeal to them.

The 9800GS is just a 9800GTS a tiny bit downclocked.

 

Hmmm...honestly this isn't worth the purchase even with a 1gb dedicated 9800m gts. That's over $400 more (from what I bought) for that upgrade.

 

and the 9800GTS cant even make use of that extra vRAM.

 

The image is up now. Same case, but what's interesting is the part number: LX.W430X.001.

Evidently this one no longer "rates" an FX moniker.

 

looks like the same chassis as the 7811. would have gone for it even for this price if they had updated that.

 

am I missing something or is this the same specs as 7811 but with 120gb more hdd space, and 512mb more gpu memory. For $400 more?

what are the other advantages above the 7811 here that attributes the huge cost difference?

EDIT: to the guys that said it was GS, newegg is displaying it as having the GTS...

 

Yes, you're missing something. The specs imply this is Gateway's take on the iPower Packard Bell, which means a few things, the biggest chiefly being that the heatsink on this one is likely to support a quad. This isn't the biggest thing you're missing, though, since a quad is wasted and *will* be wasted on most things for quite some time. No, it gets better.

Also, the inclusion of a VGA port (which is sort of crappy considering how much easier and probably more useful a DVI port would've been) in addition to the HDMI gives a rudimentary second monitor capability free of the BS HDMI brings with it, even if it is a less-than-stellar interface.

And last but not least, I'm sure this one incorporates all of the lessons learned from all of use 7811 suckers with regards to thermals. Rest assured, it's not the 1GB 9800M I'm pissed about, someone was right before when they claimed the chip will never *need* to address that much.

What SUCKS, and the main "point," is the fact that it seems we all paid good money to beta test their equipment for them across three different product generations - 2886, 2887, and 2888 (for just the 7811 alone, not even counting the P-173 and 6-series guys), and if Best Buy is ever carries this (not very likely), if our laptops crap out, we'll be forced to apply 1249 dollars towards whatever laptop in their stock fits in the price range or use the 1249 as a "credit" towards something comparable.

At least I've still got an "out" in the form of a fully-specced 7600G M1710 I bought on the Dell Outlet last June that has another two and a half years to fail on me. And given that's how long my XPS Gen 2 lasted before the 7800GTX blew out, the odds are in my favor.

 

if best buy does carry this soon. will i be able to return my 7811 and put the money i bought with this towards the 7801?

i bought my 7811 for $1500, so the extra $200 isnt that big of a deal to me

 

The 7811 has a VGA port too...

So even after everything you said (and yes, we can be viewed as testers and that kind of sucks for the reasons you said), the cost is still $400 more for:

512mb more gpu ram that as you said probably won't be needed
120gb more hdd space
a chance that there will be a heatsink that itself will have a chance of supporting quad...

I would rather be a tester than pay $400 more for just those three extras...

 

Ugh. It's so late I forgot that ****ed VGA port was there. -_-

Still, there's a reason I downloaded the 09 and 10 BIOS. I don't think we're getting any more. Ever. I would advise everyone else to do the same and save them on a USB key before they disappear.

 

they released a 10 BIOS?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=303626

I meant the 9c.09 (v27) and 9c.10 (v28) betas. You never know down the line if you'll run into some inexplicable hardware snafu and somehow one of these two BIOSes will fix it just as inexplicably.

 

Good idea, and could be true about the bioses. But since they're releasing another centrino 2 laptop that so closely resembles the 7811, maybe future bios updates for it will be compatible.

 

downloaded both, will keep in safe keeping, so whats in the changelog on both of these?

 

Some change to SATA AHCI and quad support even though the heatsinks on the 2887s supposedly can't handle them as BMW showed us, but E-Wrecked claimed in one of his 2888s that his HSF assembly was beefed up, and we all know about the changes to the airflow grates on the 2888s.

 

****, why does gateway have to be so mysterious

 

**** me and my 2887

 

Pretty much all of us have 2887s, so you're in good, well, numerous company.

Also, I guess I know the jackass who bought up the bulk of them in the DC area: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Gateway-P-7...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

 

ha!

10 limit

 

hmmm from the look of his gpuz its just a rebranded 9700gts, another fast one by nvidia.

 

LOL! The NEW Gateway gaming laptop?!? Looks like a 7811 with some very minor component upgrades.

It's like the Asus G50vm-x1. Bestbuy had it first, Newegg picked it up afterward upgraded some components and kept the same name. It's confusing. If you wanted to suggest that someone check out the G50vm-x1 you'd have to specify which one.

So let's not get our hopes up because the P7801u isn't the Packard Bell iPower GX, it's a repackaged P7811-fx.

 

you all say u beta tested the 7811. but isn't the 2888 version supposed to be relatively glitch free. at least as far the heat and lockup issues go ?
i know there are still screen/ghosting problems, but those are more subjective i guess.

 

any benchmark regarding that 1gb 9800m gts vram yet? there has to be a much better performance wise on gpu to justify the price hike $500 more than 7811fx.

dont know the reason why bestbuy yanked gateway from their shelf, but 1 thing for sure, bb did sold a ton of them, the reviews on bb online is close to 100.

 

there is no way you going to see a performance that justify that price hit.

look here for somehow relevant info on 256mb vs. 512mb vs. 1gb vram performance on a 8800GT (desktop)

 

Yea.. actually, I met johnkss on here when learning how to BIOS overclock the 8600m GS on my HP..his had 256 MB RAM, mine had 512MB.. Oddly enough, the 256 allowed more OC'ing..and often gave better performance. Now, not to say this wouldn't be a different story. BUT, it's VERY difficult for your system to utilize 1 GB of VRAM, with one card. There's not going to be a vast, or a noticeable difference. IMHO, for 120GB more HDD, and Btooth, and 512MB extra VRAM that will go unused.. it's not worth the substantial cost difference. The 7811 isn't gone..and it's not going anywhere. Keep in mind, Gateway doesn't ship anymore..it's all done by outside retailers. That just happens to be the one offered to Newegg. Until you see one with quad core, and 9800m GT, or GTX.. then nothing has changed, except bigger numbers to make people go "OOOOOHHHHHhhhh..". The 7811FX is still, and will be for quite some time.. the BEST BUDGET GAMING NOTEBOOK ON THE MARKET! heck, all the FX lineups have been.

 

i agree, if you can get your hands on a 7811 still, that is without a doubt the better choice vs this new model

EDIT: I should take that back and say that to those who don't care about the price increase as much, it can't hurt to have the slightly higher specs that come with the new model.

 

For $600 I can buy 2 320GB HDDs, bluetooth, and a Blu-Ray ROM.. Now, if it had b-ray, I'd agree with the cost increase

 

First thing that came to mind when i saw the 1gig of video ram was it wont clock as high, its funny you mentioned the same thing E . Its not a for sure but i have seen it in the past more then a few times . not sure if they use cheaper ram to make up that extra memory or not.

 

Well..if ya think about it.. you are trying to use software to boos the speeds of the RAM, and it's more RAM to be OCd.. same power source. There comes a point when all of that RAM can only be accessed at one time, and then you still have RAM that's not being read/written to, creating a bottleneck within itself. For gaming, it's not like an OS.. the RAM needs to be accessed much more often to change the variables of the game, whereas Vista(for example) can store info in RAM that it will continue to access. (speculation of course) But, that's why they switched to DDR3 RAM, not just for power..but quicker read/write times. And that's also why you likely haven't see a 2GB SLI config with 2 cards.

 

If thats the upgrade I'm satisfied with the 7811FX. When I get a little spare cash I'm gonna install a second HD and go RAID 0.

I would of already done it but my wifes little $250 upgrade turned into a complete cluster f***. If anyone wants to see a AMD 5400+ B.E. and a 9800 GTX+ post a screaming 3DMark06 score of 5900 I can show you one! (Don't ask, or so help me god I'll tell you!)

Other then that I'm certainly satisfied. In fact if I had to do it all over again and you set the new one lappy and the 7811 side by side I'd probably still buy the 7811.

In fact the only thing I'm really dissatisfied with about this laptop is the crappy Intel WiFi 5100 card.

 

cant agree with you more, that sound card dont have an adequate driver too.

 

Tyreck, do tell.

Oh, and ya coulda spent some of that cash on the Intel 5300 kiddin bro.. but really, ya coulda!

 

Bah I mostly use vent and headsets so the sound is absolutely fine for my purposes. The speakers suck but if you REALLY want better sound you can port the sound to all kinds of devices, so not an issue for me.

And E-Wrecked you REALLY don't wanna know.. it's long and involved and just reading it would make you cry and your eyes bleed!

 

I just teared up with a droplet of blood, thinkin bout it.. No need to delve into it. And put it behind ya bro. Just do whatcha gotta do with the vendors..and strike the waste of time off your mental calendar. It's all good

 

Problem is, it's not over.. I had to go so far as to have Gigabyte recreate my setup in their lab and I'm waiting to hear back from them. I didn't even know manufacturers did that kinda crap for you!

 

That sound is so confusing. I'm going to buy a new 7811. Should I buy it now or not ? Sr 4 my poor E

 

buy it, its a better value for your money.

 

Indeed. Tonight I just became even happier with my P7811 because I broke the 9,500 marks barrier I've been trying to get pass . So yes, for now, the 7811 is indeed one of the best performance to value machine on the market.

 

I got mine for $1249 w/ a free game (Pre-Ordered World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King which I would have bought anyway. I basically don't even use my desktop anymore but relax in the recliner now and play), so this price doesn't even compare at a $500+ bump w/ tax. 1920x1200 = 1gb video memory is a waste in terms of size and potentially slower performance. I already have a 320gb to go along with the 200gb.

At a $1700 price point, I probably would not have purchased this laptop but went with an HDX in all its monstrous glory.

 

Absolutely.

Again, I agree 100%.

While I myself haven't had any problems with the 5100, I do agree with the Sound card drivers. They're ****.

Again though, you got to remember, this is a COMPUTER, and well, they do get refreshed every 6 months or so. I myself won't get worked up over 512MB of vRAM (even though it is kind of a sucker punch). But I still highly doubt, even at stock, anything will take advantage of that extra 512MB. Maybe FarCry 2, but the difference won't be more than 10%.

As for the other stuff... I only paid $1200 for my P2888 7811FX NEW. I'm probably just going to throw a 6MB P-chip in there, another 4GB of RAM (in the future), bluetooth, and a SSD hard drive (when prices go down).... And you won't tell the difference. Of course Gateway will have something released 10x better, but again, that's what owning a computer is all about.

 

I haven't had any sound issues.. what are you guys seeing? I mean yeah the speakers sucks, but I knew that before buying it. But soon as I plug in a good headset the difference is night and day.

 

Agreed, while most all laptop speakers suck, once you use an external solution the problem goes away completely.