The New Gateway Gaming Laptop is HERE ( P-7801u)

okay if there is one thing that we can agree on is that we beat this topic to death. everybody made valid points. lets move on to better and more interesting topics

 

yeah like the p-7892FX with the qx9300, 8gb RAM support, 9800GTX and pimping a 120gb Intel SSD and a 500gb 7200rpm storage drive

All for 1500us

That'd make me give up my 6860. But probably nothing short of that

 

well I'd wait for it to be on sale and get it for 1250...

 

I still have my P7811 new in box, just trying to determine to keep my desktop with Q8200. 6 GB ram 750GB HD, 9800GT or return it and use the P7811 as my primary computer. There really is no need for me to keep both as one of my friend suggested, one of them will just end up getting neglected anyway. I understand desktop is more powerful, but its immobile. Not that FX is light as a feather anyway, but at least it's moveable. You guys have any suggestions> Also one factor is I'm waiting for red alert 3 and am a RTS fan, and I know 9800M GTS is equivalent to desktop 9600GT (same number of stream processor). So I'm wondering if FX can handle red alert 3 or any subsequent release of RTS game well during height of battle with tons of units on the field. Any ideas or experience with massive RTS game on the P7811FX plz share.. I have 2 days to return desktop and decide............ thanks

PS: I'm the guy that got an asus laptop with bad keyboard and the laptop ended up dying on the counter at bestbuy in front of geek squad....

 

RTS are quite demanding on cpu, might want to check on those x9100 or t9800, t9600 IF you decide keeping the 7811.

 

If you can get your money back for the desktop and upgrade to the x9100 on the 7811 then you should have no trouble playing ANY rts game currently available or in the near future.

I play dawn of war with a total war modthat basically allows you limitless units on the feild and with the 6860 and the x9000 i have never seen below 37 FPS and at that point i was battling about 1000 orks with a legion of dark reapers and howling banshees.

 

I was in a similar position as you. I bought the 7811 because I was traveling every weekend and I figured I could replace my home desktop with the laptop and take it with me on the weekends.

Well I ended up keeping my desktop and the laptop. I have 4 TB of storage on my desktop that I don't feel like moving to external drives and sometimes I feel like playing a game and watching a movie at the same time so I pop a movie in my desktop pc (37" monitor) and watch while playing whatever on my laptop.


It's also nice to have a spare PC for when friends come over and we want to play a multiplayer game or if my daughter wants to use the computer while I am.

So yeah - keep the 7811 and the desktop

Also if some crazy specced new game comes out that I can't play on the 7811 I can always jump on the desktop.

 

so meaning keep the deskstop still due to its power?

 

I cant keep both desktop and the FX i need oen powerful one either desktop or FX, and ill get something small portable cause I'm going back to school which i havent done for over 10 yeras..... dreading it.

 

ur probably right, but i dont even wanna try to guess how much this X9100 itself lol. probably same price my whole desktop set up

 

@howard911s

I would say keep the desktop then. If your going to be taking a laptop around with you, your going to want a HUGE battery life (5+ hours) and the FX simply cant do that.

If you just need one machine then the 7811 would be perfect. But if you want one to play games on and one to use for school work, it basically makes more sense to keep the desktop and buy a 15in or smaller laptop that will give you a long battery life for class (as you cant always plug in at uni)

Gaming rigs are desktop replacements, and as such are allowed to consume ALOT of power and the battery basically acts as an internal UPS.

 

what batman said

 

I am glad that I went away from the all the laptop business.. I had a feeling something like this will happen. Just like my ipod 160gb which has skipping problem and Apple hasn't fixed it yet and now not long ago they made 120gb version which, I'm assuming it's fixed. I'm glad I chose desktop. You can really do more on the desktop for gaming. I'm going to save up some money and get a highly portable laptop. Maybe... they will have dual core atom processor in those small laptops. Go for desktop, Unless you really want laptop for gaming. I went with custom gaming desktop with lot more potential

 

ba-hum-bug... laptops are more fun

But it is true. If you already have a desktop and need portability then a desktop replacement isnt for you. But that has always been the case

 

Was wondering if you guys had an oppinion about the acer on newegg. I cant put the link for it but its item number N82E16834115507 over the gateway. I have been a Desktop user for the longest time and travel alot for work, and am getting tired of dragging my server case desktop along . I like the idea of the big screen on the acer. I love my games and would hate to not be able to run the top ones like crysis and such. Any insight would be great for a first time laptop owner.

 

its not a bad lappy for the price, but i think you'll be disappointed with the 9600 if you wanting to play crysis and other high end graphics games if your used to desktop preformance.

 

ahh ya i figured it would be to good to be true with the lower price and larger screen. Thx for the imput

 

Hey Mistargill, saw your signature down there said you tried 4 P7811? whats wrong with all of them?

 

IMO if your Gateway works fine just ditch your desktop and get a netbook. Netbook for class and the Gateway for power use.

The Asus at Best Buy is also a good choice. 9800GS (GTS downclocked) for $1250 and it is a 15in. Resolution is not that great however.

 

I really love the power of my desktop, but I also admire the wow/cool factor of fx notebook....You guys think at 1920 x 1200 resolution, will the P8400 cpu and 9800M GTS( 64 stream processor) have enough muscle to handle red alert 3 at high detail without lag? (during multi units combat without upgrading the cpu, just factory P8400 Penryn 2.26 ghz chip.

Im not too worried about call of cuty 5, that game woudl be a piece of cake for any FX...so right now whats stopping me from opening and keeping the fx (i have it in my room) is how it would do out of box without upgrade, in heated battle of numerous unit of RTS game at high resolution......

 

The system specs for Red Alert 3 post 2.2ghz processor as minimum. This means the CPU might be a bottleneck if you haven't upgraded it, but everything else including the GPU will be fine (requirements: 1GB ram, Nvidia 6800 minimum, 2.2ghz processor, 6gb hdd).

 

Thx for the reply..says 2.2 ghz.. intel pentium 4, amd xp 2200+ multi core.. even though P8400 is 2.26 ghz, but its structure is far far superior to the above mentioned processor, so hope won't be much of a bottleneck....time winding down...gotta decide this thursday on what to do .... desktop or take it apart and return and keep the fx.. decisions decisions...

 

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you make a good point

 

Anyone seen any support for the p7801u on Gateway's website yet? I, and probably others, are hoping Gateway will continue to provide driver updates for the p7801u.

 

I appreciate the time and effort everyone put into the commentary on this thread.

After careful consideration I decided to go with the P-7801u...but the reason is a little screwy.

I'm a 'Preferred Customer' at Newegg and I can get the 12-month No-Payment Option. Heck...that makes they extra $300 or so fairly trivial. The way I buy my systems and with as much traveling as I do I figured I may as well go for it.

Mainly in these posts I didn't detect anything against the 7801 per se...more defensive responses and the idea that the extra features were not worth the price. I appreciate that...and mostly because you all are satisfied with your systems it made me decide to go with this one.

I do like the 17" monitor. Heck, I may use this at home AND on the road and move my desktop.

In any case thanks to everyone for the input. I may not have gotten the best bang for my buck but I think I got a good system.

 

definitely, if price/value is less of an issue, the P-7801u is clearly the better system as it has everything that the 7811 has with a few upgrades. enjoy

 

its on sale for 100 less http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101166

 

Yeah Insomnia...that's the one I ordered today after reading through this and weighing all the factors.

Thanks!

 

congrats on your new purchase, get us some gpuz pictures please ?

 

Will do...it's been shipped.

 

To hell with GPU pictures, I want to see the underside of the 7801 and the CPU heatsink/heatpipe assembly.

We should also get started on the serial number versions.

 

it will be exactly the same save your breath

 

New to the forums here guys but I was checking out everything you guys had on the 7811FX because I was going to be buying a laptop very soon. Although Ive read through the thread and there isnt much talk about people who actually have the 7801u. I just wanted to start this in hopes of other people who have actually bought the laptop can start discussing comments and issues about the new laptop. I picked up the 7801u from newegg mainly because I had established credit with them otherwise I would have gone with the 7811FX to save a few bucks.

Ive been messing around with the laptop for about 2 weeks now and I am extremely impressed. Puts out Crysis in a solid 20 FPS with everything on high which I think is pretty decent since Crysis destroys most desktops. Runs Fallout 3 with everything on Ultra at 45 FPS.

The laptop is amazing for gaming but I do have a few complaints that can probably be addressed by people who own the 7811FX since they are so similar. When I installed Crysis it literally took 30 min to install. The laptop's performance is just amazing so I know this is something that is just not functioning properly....hopefully. The only other complaint that I have is that Gateway is flashing this new laptop everywhere and they dont ANY support on their website for this laptop. I know that the 7811FX is closely related in specs to this laptop so I am really not sure if I can just go ahead and use all the updates from the 7811 for this one. This being a new laptop and all I am not expecting any updates within the first 2 weeks but it doesnt even exist ont their website last time I checked. Alright guys hopefully this wasnt too long I appreciate any criticism you have about the 7801 and any advice you can give me.

 

use the 7811 updates, its the same machine with minor updates.
it was the same with the 6831 and the 6860

 

Very much appreciated. Also I left one other complaint out...I noticed that my cpu is being throttled to 1.5ghz when it is idle. Since there is no speed step option in my BIOS which I believe is what throttles the cpu...how do I disable that?

 

you can set it under advanced properties of power options
just set min and max to 100

 

Why wouldn't you want it to throttle when idle anyway, doesn't that save power/prevent heat while you're not using it?

 

First off, Crysis is horribly coded. Now that that's out of the way, you do realize how big the game is, right? Wait until you try and install Crysis Warhead. Then come back and complain on how long Crysis took to install. In all honesty, it's not the computer's fault for installing the game so "slowly". It's just that the game is huge.

Now as far as drivers go, IIRC, it was almost a month before P-7811FX drivers started appearing on Gateway's website.

What's wrong with down throttling? Think about it, if down throttling was so bad, do you think these guys would implement this type of feature? It's been out since.... 2003? I know AMD had the whole "Cool n Quiet" and then Intel followed along with "Speedstep". In all reality, it's actually a very good feature that Vista can handle easily. Now if you were to overclock the CPU, then I would go against "Speedstep". Otherwise, I wouldn't worry much about it. Vista is very good at making use of it's resources on demand

Other than that, enjoy the laptop.

 

Should I get this over the 7811?

 

Good question. I'd probably go for the cheaper one.

 

I mean I have an external anyway, so the harddrive isn't that big of deal for me.
I just want a gaming laptop that I should be able to use for the next few years. All I play is PES.

I could save a few hundred, but I also plan to keep it so over the long run a couple of hundred extra could be a wise move if it's much better. But it looks like essentially the same machine with a couple of little upgrades. Maybe just go for the 7811.

Thanks.

 

The 7801u is better if money/value does not matter, the 7811 is the better value. So it depends on if you have the extra money to toss around. The 7801u is a very small improvement on the 7811 as far as specs.

 

After reading the 3 pages of responses, it all boils down to, if you can find a 7811, get that. If not, buy the 7801u since you don't really have a choice. *dusts off hands*

 

I ordered the P-7801u from newegg on the 4th, still awaiting its arrival as I am military deployed atm... Should be here anyday now.. Will be sure to let you know what I think once I get it and give it some testing...

 

Alright, let us know how the 7801u is. I'm most interested in the temps since that was probably the number 1 problem with the 7811 series.

 

Yeah and if it has a new BIOS...

 

if it was 1500 I would have bought it... w8 does newegg ship to CAN?

 

newegg.ca......

 

Unless it's hidden, newegg.ca doesn't sell anything but Asus and one Cyberpower laptop.