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That's true. I was just curious since I'll be lugging the notebook with me to extremely boring meetings and was wondering what I could pull off. Looks like I'll stick to Bejeweled lol.

Thanks for the answer.

 

On a good note, I have found that general web surfing and computer use with WiFi on, bluetooth off and screen on 78% gives me close to 3 hours of battery life. I gained about 20 mins by undervolting.

 

is there like a thread here which teaches to undervolt and to overclock and stuff like those to optimize the pc? and another thing, does OC'ing create problems like screen ghosting etc...? (sorry, total noob here)

 

Hey guys, I was wondering in the BIOS is there like an OC profile where you can save different OC settings? It'll be really helpful if you plan to undervolt during normal usage and browsing to conserve battery life and return the settings to normal for gaming.

 

The undervolt thread is located here.

There is no overclocking thread as this model cannot be overclocked except when an Extreme processor is installed and then, the OC is only selectable between 2.8ghz and 3.0ghz. There are no OC profiles available in the bios. You can, however, setup profiles in RMClock if an Extreme CPU is used.

And no, overclocking or undervolting does not create problems such as screen ghosting. (What is it with you and screen ghosting?)

 

Dook, if you have someone that knows how to CPU OC the 7811FX let me know. I doubt it though.. I've been digging everywhere.

The x9100 I dropped in will not unlock anything in the BIOS. The BIOS is still default. I've been trying to find out if someone has unlocked it, but to no avail. Remember, the x9100 runs at 3.06 default But I want to push it to 3.74 or so.. I may melt the keyboard, but it could work on an empty shelf in the freezer.

And, RMClock will *not* allow any OC'ing either, as a matter of fact you lose the 11.5 multiplier, and it maxes out @ 11..essentially downclocking the CPU 5%. However, without RMClock for undervolting the CPU then you will NEVER OC the graphix card. Last night I told you I'd get you some screen shots in addition to the previos..well, I accidentally reset HWMonitor hi/lows after 3 hours of Crysis. I'm bout to Fraps you a Crysis screen shot and then snap an HWMonitor pic. Gimme a sec. Crysis will max my temps in three minutes.

PS - CrystalCPUID is a waste of time on this rig as well. Learned that after a few hours today.

 

There is a 3.0 limit on the Gateway chipset/BIOS, you will not be able to OC with that at all, your stuck at 3.06.

 

I think you can get the 11.5 but the RMClock Intel portions don't affect me (yet) and and the thread is so darn long I can't bring myself to look for it. It was a recent discussion.

 

I've looked into the 11.5 with RMClock, and there are some people talking about different methods.. run crystal, run rmclock, exit this, click that. Whatever. I'm not gonna be upset over a couple Mhz. When RMClock is updated it will offer the complete functionality. And Gateway is preparing to release a new BIOS for the 7811 which will offer an unlocked multi and RAID. Or, so I hear. I'll be patient.. all this new technology has to go mainstream.

 

Ok..Dook, here's a quick HW shot, and such after crysis for a bit. In addition I snapped a couple shots from the game..I hear his level is the most intense on a gpu, so maybe my results say something? I really don't know, to be honest. It's running 1440x900 at all settings High. I know this isn't an OC/benchmark forum, but I did say I'd get you something tonight. I'm not gonna do 3dmark tonight, I'm so tired of watching those loops its ridiculous!

Oh, the HWmonitor pic shows the TSZ0 as hitting 98C. Evidentally I'm not the only one, and it's not *supposed* to hurt anything. It's never broke the 98C mark. I wish I could find out where the heck that sensor is tho.. I'll pop it off the board. Anyways.. I love the gateway, and feel like a hypocrite.

 

Hmm, I guess I'm more paranoid than most people about temps, especially with all this hubbub about the GPU's being defective. I get kind of skiddish when my temps reach low 60's, though my cooling set up has been such where only my GPU ever reaches that high really.

I did have a question though. If I were to buy a USB sound card, like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829128002

and I didn't have drivers installed for the onboard sound on the 7811, I could still get sound right? I'm considering just installing XP x64 for access to the full 4GB of ram, using an external USB soundcard for sound, and leaving it at that. Would it work?

 

low 60's...****! mine runs at 65C under load.

 

e wrecked by your core and gpu temps are fine, that tz0 is high, i've seen it too after long crysis session, anyway the difference between your max tz0 and max core is something i never saw before, whats your room temp ? maybe consider getting a a laptop cooler, its 40$ or so, bit less than the x9100

 

Thanks royk, I appreciate the concern for my budget and well being
The only reason it hits 98C is cause of the OC on the GPU. When I ramp up shader clocks, it makes the temp go up.. No OC on GPU = similar temps to CPU. After much benchmarking and stability testing, I've figured out it is either my power supply temp, or the video connection to the MOBO. I'm only assuming here. but I think the high shaders are drawing too much power, which is why RMClock is a must to keep the power supply from downclocking the CPU. If I OC the GPU, and no undervolt, the x9100 doesn't even get warm before it throttles. As cool as 53c and it will throttle.. I believe its too much current somewhere. But, Im not worried bout the tzs0.. hwmonitor never had support for that til recent, what was everyone temps before they could read them? I dunno either.

 

thats interesting, i never seen any linearity between the tzs0 to my shaders clocks, i look into it.

 

lemme know what ya find. oh, and i emailed biosman as well.. saw dook had posted to forum with no response. Maybe if he sees that he can make enough money off the mods, he'll go ahead and hook it up. I told him I'd pay a nominal fee. Hopefully he thinks that means lots of $$ Whatever happened to doing something just cause you enjoy it? Capitalism!

 

there seem to be zero connection between the tzs0 / tzs01 temps reading and the gpu temps reading,

i just run folding@home gpu2 client which stressed gpu only, then run orthos, see pictures (do disregard the 45% surge in the time of taking the screen shot )

 

sorry man if i'm so paranoid... it's the only issue i've seen being discussed so far with this laptop... though i'm definitely gonna buy it soon, i'm just preparing myself what to expect. thanks a lot for the info though. you guys have been very helpful. again my apologies for the multiple identical posts...

 

Yea, thats my bad. I'm on meds due to a back injury, was out of it and was thinking he was talking about the 68xx. What a looser I am.

 

sorry i fail to see the connection between undervolting cpu and o/c gpu, i rarely use rmclock and my gpu is o/c 24/7

 

guys where can i buy those extreme processors y'all use for your laptops? and do they make a significant difference?

 

most of the x9000 and x7800 were bought on ebay and they sure made a difference over the original 1.86ghz cpu (p68xx), however the cpu on the 7811fx seems quite capable (and cool), i wouldn't rush upgrading it.

 

thanks for the heads up royk!

 

wow, this unit is getting more and more reviews in bestbuy... i doubt it will go on sale now... haha...


can't wait to play crysis on this baby...

 

Hi guys. been reading this post for a little while now trying to find someone with the exact same problem as mine, But no such luck , so was wondering some advice.
my P-7811FX tends to lock up randomly, But, only when i play games, mainly Age of Conan, and a little world of warcraft. Age of conan tends to run fine for 5-60 mins. then just locks up.
used a program to monitor temperatures and while in games the temps are.
CPU = 42'c - 57'c
HDD = 52'c - 57'c
GPU = 42'c - 66'c
while Age of Conan runs at a steady 57'c - 62'c it locks up a ton.
World of warcraft ran once as hot as 78'c and didnt lock up once.. until i was quiting the game lol. murphys law.
So im just wondering if anyone else out there is having lock up issues when thier laptop is under load ( playing games with the graphics on high).
im not sure if its an over heating problem or a laptop fault(GPU? over heating/faulty?)(ive been using my laptop slightly elevated with a fan blowing on it it to try to cool things down in the hopes it would fix locking up, but it hasnt). Ive ordered a cooling pad from amazon.com, an Antec.
but it wont get here till after my 14 day bestbuy period is up. So im a little stumped.. im unsure if my P-7811FX is slightly faulty wich is causing the lock ups wich means i should go to BB and get a replacement, Or the cooling pad is going to be all i need. any advice on the matter would be much appreciated.

 

temps seem to be fine, not overheating there.
did you update you gpu drivers ?

 

well i bought the laptop. wiped all the added installation stuff off (norton AV etc etc) updated the drivers to 177.83 also tried 177.89. physx 8.08 etc etc and it locked up.
so i formatted and started from scratch, windows vista 64bit. installed all the drivers from the cd (none of those extra crappy programs this time). video drivers 175.80(standard out of the box drivers). and it still locks up. but less then it did before. originaly it locked up about once every 5-10 mins. now ones every 5-60 mins

 

I remember reading about sombody else that was having similar problems, but he took it back to BB and showed them and they replaced it and he hasn't had any problems since...

 

Hey guys !

Ok so I bought the P-7811fx yesterday at Best Buy and I was wondering about a few things...

How can you guys play Crysis on it, saying it's not ''laggy'' at all...

I mean, the native resolution of this laptop is 1900*1200, when I'm playing Assassin's Creed, 1900*1200, details MAX, the game isn't running it at 60 fps at all.


Are you guys playing all the game at the native resolution ? Maximum details ?

Because I think the 9800m gts is a little bit weak for this resolution.

Another question : is the laptop upgradable ? Sorry I haven't read the 73 pages of this thread...

 

hey do you have your thermal pad on your heatsink still? that little gray thing?

 

Replace immediately before 14 days are up.

 

I had a couple of lockups early on which have gone away since I removed the camera software from the startup list: one time playing WoW I actually saw the little camera gadget or widget flashing through into Azeroth - no fooling! I assume it's doing some kind of polling that MAY be the cause of lockups; my first time on Crysis it locked up after a few minutes, now it plays fine for hours but I reduced resolution as well as stopped the camera software from loading so don't know what's cause and what's effect.

 

don't you think you shouldn't have to do that? we shouldn't work around lockups... we should be free from lockups!

 

Okay, so still no screws in the second hard drive-I'd like to get some, but I don't know where I can find any at the EXACT right size I'd need. I want to Ace Hardware and picked up 4 6-32 and 1/2" screws but they seemed to big around so maybe they aren't the right size.

My solution for cooling is to have the laptop set slightly off of the tray table I have it on top of-it also kills two birds with one stone by giving my mouse more room to move around.

Since buying this thing on Thursday I've gotten the dreaded BSOD only ONCE, and I took a picture of it just because it felt like one of those moments you just need to capture. lol

I'm also wondering-is there some way of getting this thing to output 5.1 sound? My Logitech rig requires three outputs (front l/r, rear l/r, and center/sub)-whereas the only audio output jack here appears to be for headphones. Do I need some kind of adapter or a new sound card (not sure that's possible) or what?

 

ok... for us who are opting to buy one, what would you suggest? how should we stress test it? any tips on how we should go about every aspect of the laptop itself.

 

@ djgamer's BSOD

is it really okay to experience bsod's? what more is there?

 

Well, it did recover from it, unfortunately I had to remove the battery and put it back in because it didn't automatically restart.

That's one of the weird things about BSODs, sometimes it'll automatically reboot the computer, other times it won't.

 

I play crysis as 1200x800

 

@thefudd

at what resolution do you play crisis on 1200*800??

@dj

so are you saying that bsod's are normal? is it only gateway units that experience these things?

 

So it does not bother you to play it at this reso ?

Because when I try, the game is so blurry and ugly...

 

Well, since I've started having Vista computers I've started to accept them as more-or-less a fact of life (my older eMachines which I bought in 2003-I believe before they were bought by Gateway had XP and hardly ever if ever at all got a BSOD). I can't say for sure but I think on my desktop they happen maybe once every 1-2 weeks-although usually it happens if I'm doing something really intensive or unusual-occasionally though it'll seem to happen for no reason at all other than it just seems to feel like pissing me off.

So I guess one conclusion is that it's either Gateway's fault for corner-cutting or Microsoft's fault for creating a less stable OS, or some combination of both.

Generally speaking though the worst that's resulted in recovering from a BSOD is that Firefox may not recover all the tabs you were viewing when the crash occurred. That really gets me PO'ed when it happens because I tend to have tons of tabs open at once and then I have to find all the websites I was looking at all over again.

Since we're on a new page I'll ask again about if there's an adapter or something that will allow this laptop to have outputs for 5.1 sound.

 

ok, first of all, the resolution 1200x1800 isnt at all detailed enough to be a source of reply posts. what you guys should say is the exact video settings your crysis is set to.

 

sorry for multiple posts... double clicked by mistake... anyway, since i have another post here, i also would like to ask, aside from opening a dozen websites, what else do you do with your p-7811fx and how does it handle them...

 

One question guys and sorry if you guys have already answered BUT is the P7811fx upgradable ?

I mean especially for the processor and the video card.

Thx

 

the processor is upgradeable, the video card is not, since it is soldered into the board...

 

you should NOT have BSOD as being "normal" under any OS. I've been working under Vista for 2 computers for a year+ now, and i've only BSOD when I've been trying to push OCs that aren't stable (normally the memory). If you're getting BSODs and you're within the 14 days on this notebook, take it back to Bestbuy and get a replacement. Depending on the error msg that comes with the BSOD, you can google and see what the error is, most likely a memory issue. Seeing that DDR3 memory isn't available on the market, i'd exchange it ASAP.
And for your desktop, you getting a Driver IRQ not Less or Equal BSOD?

Anyway for those who don't want the BSOD to reboot after creating the dump file:
Turning off automatic restart from within Windows:

Vista:

1. Right click My Computer and select Properties.
2. Click on Advanced System Settings.
3. Click the Settings button under Startup and Recovery.
4. Untick Automatically restart under System Failure.
5. Click OK, and OK again.

XP:

1. Right click My Computer and select Properties.
2. Click on Advanced.
3. Click the Settings button under Startup and Recovery.
4. Untick Automatically restart under System Failure.
5. Click OK, and OK again.

Not a vista issue, honestly people have to stop ripping on vista unless they actually can narrow it down to a vista problem. 99% of issues isn't vista's fault, its hardware manufactures not updating drivers. And majority of the compatibility and what not problems have been fixed in SP1

 

I can post the picture of the BSOD, although I may need to know what information I may need to blur out or whatever for security purposes. I only got it ONCE-and at this point I'm not very willing to exchange considering how much I've got installed on the hard drive, plus I could not afford to buy a second one, switch over the hard drives, then return the old one-I'd have to do that through Geek Squad or something and even then it would require more money.

I've been researching the 5.1 stereo issue and it seems I may need an external sound card-type thing, which may not be too bad, there seems to be quite a few around the $30 price range. I might also need a USB hub of some sort-I've got a few old ones laying around but they're probably too old to use.

 

ok... yeah... i also think it's a memory issue because my pc before got bsod either from not enough memory or not enough video card memory. anyway, im off to sleep. it's 3 in the morning round here

 

I think the BSOD issue may be related to drivers, in which a case it would be a software issue, not a hardware issue. I don't think you need to return a laptop to the store for software issues. I'll take a look at my picture of the first BSOD because I think it had the same message as a second, more recent BSOD I got.

Yep, the exact same message:

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

 

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is a ram or driver issue, or both. Test your ram using memtest86. Windows memory checker is something I'm not familiar with, but I know memtest86 is the best for memory testing.

Otherwise it's a driver issue, and good luck finding updates on the Gateway site, lol.