I doubt we will see dual 980's in x7...
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pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso
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Sometimes I feel Aorus's Driver Updates server is connected via dial-up modem...
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http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/record/X7.xml
The drivers are separated by OS:
x64wt (Windows 10)
x64wb (Windows 8/8.1)
x64w7 (Windows 7)
and by model:
X7
X7v2
X7v3 (X7 Pro)
X7v3g
X7v4
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Downloading System Backup 2015072301.exe has been at 1% for some time with an estimate of well over 7 hours at a speed of 124KB/s. I had attempted to download it overnight through the Aorus Drivers Update software and after 9 or 10 hours later at 77%, I aborted it as it then appeared stuck on 77%.
I think there's an issue with Macro Engine update to 2.0.9 as despite installing it a few time, it does not appear to register with the Drivers Update hub as it thinks it hasn't been updated.
No matter, I'm sure Aorus will resolve it soon at some point.
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The website has updated the specs for the Aorus X7 ProSync, added a 5th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-5850HQ.
I assume the models from mid-august on will probably have that processor.
All the other specs are the same, so just a small logical change as the Broadwell are norm, the 5th gen offer no real performance gain to my knowledge.
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So, what actually happened to the "upgrade to GSync" issue, a lot of speculation but is there some actual facts now about what it is and what it isn't?
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"Currently we are working on the possibilities to provide a paid upgrade program on X7 Pro to X7 Pro-SYNC. Please confirm again with the product serial number, you may see if you can take a photo of the serial number printed on the bottom cover of the chassis. After we receive the information, our staff will contact you further about the paid upgrade information."
I then replied to them with the info they required (serial number and an attached photo showing the serial number on the rear of X7 Pro). Soon after I received an email from 'gigabytenb.com' (I hope that's genuine) a service centre they use, which for Europe appears to be in Germany - below is their email. Remember price excludes tax/VAT, possible custom's-duty (which shouldn't exist if within EU countries) and final price may vary depending on country. Freight charge appears to be include in the price:-
"Dear Dudley,
Hello~ I’m Jane from GIGABYTE Service Center. Nice to meet youJ
We heard that you have demand of upgrading to X7 Pro-Sync from our call center.
About the upgrade program, please pay attention to the following information and quotes.
1. The cost including freight except tax would be US $ 250.
2. Upgrade location is in GIGABYTE at Germany.
3. Working days would be 3 days and freight days plus. We will pay for freight.
4. When the machine finish upgrading, it need to reinstall the system and customer information won’t be preserved. Therefore, don’t forget to back up your own important data.
Thank you for choosing GIGABYTE laptop.
If you have any questions, please contact us directly."
The 'J' after the "Nice to meet You" actually shows as a smiley face which I've not experience from a support centre before! As you can see the price quoted doesn't appear too scary at £162 ex VAT (£194 inc VAT at 20% in UK) when you bare in mind they will no doubt have to physically swap the GPU's, or at least that is what I assume they will do based on a previous post that mentioned different hardware ID's for G-Sync and non G-Sync GPU's. Admittedly I was fearful that the final price 'all-in' might have been over double the amount indicated considering that these latest GPU's aren't cheap and there's two of them.
So, this is something to seriously consider and would still be far cheaper than selling the unit at a big loss and re-purchasing a Pro-Sync model because you either lose a lot if selling for a quick sale, or takes forever to get the price you want for minimum loss. Besides most of us would do well to hang-on to our Windows 8.1 version factory installed machines as we have the best of both worlds to choose Windows 8.1 or 10 and can always choose either from a system reinstall; however if and when Aorus start shipping X7 Pro's/Pro Sync's with Windows 10 factory installed, then the owner would have to buy a full copy of Windows 8.1 (expensive) and would have less fluidity installing it than the machine purpose-matched recovery tool.
Back to the Pro-Sync upgrade option mentioned above; I still have many questions which I may put to them at some point, unless someone here is more familiar with some answers then please do post here.
My remaining questions before going ahead with the upgrade program would be like this:-
1. Exactly what all components and changes are made? i.e. are both GPU's replaced, IPS LCD display/driver unit replaced or not and drivers installed... or is there more.
2. Are the replacement parts 'new' or refurbished.
3. The GPU's will be upgraded to NVIDIA's G-Sync GPU's benefitting from the new G-Sync technology. This technology is in effect a variable Sync technology (a kind of dynamic fps scaling feature). Therefore would the new upgraded G-Sync GPU's be compatible with any or most 'Variable Sync/Variable Refresh' external displays or limited to only NVIDEA G-Sync enabled external display monitors?
4. If as asked in question '3.' above they G-Sync is universally compatible with other makes of variable refresh rate monitors/displays, then through which interfaces can the variable refresh rate feature be delivered, i.e. mini-display port (up to what refresh rate? - I'm hoping up to 120Hz for 1080p), HDMI (up to 60Hz I presume for 1080p), etc.
5. I doubt this but I don't suppose they fit/upgrade Mini Display Port to version 1.3 (from 1.2) and HDMI version 2.0 (from 1.3) for improved refresh rate capability through video interfaces used, so as to fully benefit from the G-Sync variable sync upgrade when using external displays?
6. Depending on the answers for some of the above; after the upgrade what would be the refresh 'maximum' or variable refresh 'range' for the (a.) the built-in display, and (b.) each port of any attached compatible external display?
Can anyone think of any other critical questions? ... After all these X7 Pro's are highly prized possessions that were also a rather large initial investment.Last edited: Aug 10, 2015 -
I don't think the upgrade requires a GPU replacement, not technically.
It's a licensing matter and perhaps a screen panel replacement that is Nvidia Gsync certified if the current one is not.
It could be that they just replace your machine to be used as refurbished parts and send you a brand new ProSync model (with your disks swapped). But this is just speculation.
You could simply reply back and ask if they can provide details as what exactly happens during the upgrade. A reasonable question.
Anyhow it's awesome news that Aorus provides this service.
I would recommend it, I wouldn't have bought mine if it hadn't Nvidia Gsync.Last edited: Aug 10, 2015 -
I answered this a while back, it's just a motherboard replacement. The 970m G-Sync has a different HWID than the non G-Sync 970m, Nvidia's way of doing DRM.. The new MB will also have the G-Sync license/cookie in the BIOS.
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I guess to hear it from Aorus and/or from the actually company doing the upgrade themselves, is to then acknowledge it as 100% fact and being the case. However this is something they may not want to disclose to graphically. I do prefer the notion though that they may swap out the motherboard altogether which would appear to be the logical route rather than the thought of them de-soldering & then re-soldering the new GPU's with the new HWID's. -
I was just explaining the differences between them.Last edited: Aug 10, 2015 -
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"I have asked our engineer about upgrading to GSYNC.
However, he said this is refer to confidential company information.
And we won’t change motherboard, replace GPU’s chips and I suggest that you remove your extra mSATA before upgrading."
From what they appear to say (this is the email reply from the Gigabyte repair/upgrade centre in Germany) they " won’t change motherboard" which leaves me a little confused and they also won't go into detail about what exactly takes place. I did shoot them a reply back saying that normally any paid service or goods usually have to have all items/parts and or work carried out being itemised in the receipt or invoice.
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Found out recently that the reason why we're not getting the G-Sync upgrade in South Africa is because the tax on the components would be too much. It would be cheaper to sell your X7 Pro (lose some money) and just purchasing the X7 Pro-Sync. Apparently the estimated cost to do the upgrade in SA is about R10'000 (about USD $783.73), which is why none of the South Africa companies are offering the upgrade.Last edited: Aug 12, 2015 -
Knowing my luck by the time I would have sold the unit and then gathered extra funds for purchasing the G-Sync version, by then it may probably come factory installed with Windows 10 only which is not as beneficial as having both, i.e. Win 8.1 and 10 and 10 is not ideal with it's forced updates (no way to disable them) with possibility of occasional updates upsetting part of a gaming rigs harmony - happened to me a while back on Win 8.1 and I was able to restore point-back and then disable some updates for smooth running of setup once more.
Additionally, after purchasing G-Sync version they'll probably not long release an updated version at some point with much needed Mini Display Port 1.3 and HDMI 2.0 - HDMI 2.0 for 60fps capability (not an unacceptable 30fps) if running at 4K, but more importantly Mini DP v1.3 for 120fps capability at 1080p (with variable refresh/G-Sync of course). This means I'd probably have to send my 'upgraded to G-Sync' X7 Pro to any video interface port upgrade program they may have if indeed they would have one. Should I just wait? Mmmm.....Last edited: Aug 13, 2015 -
I noticed on xotic pc the new model with a broadwell chip is for sale now
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Yeah, Aorus added the broadwell next to the haswell on their site a week ago.
Was expecting it to hit the market soon. It's just the CPU that got changed, will probably be about 5% increased CPU performance. Not so much difference between the CPU's.
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For those that are interested.
I recently installed a 'third' 256GB mSATA SSD in the vacant/spare 3rd mSATA slot in order to gain the extra RAID 0 speeds and extra capacity from the stock 512GB to 768GB. Ideally (money permitting) 3x 512GB mSATA SSD's would be great for having a larger game library that can have their levels & maps loading at the quickest possible speeds, however adding a compatible 256GB to match the existing two already on board is by far infinitely cheaper and still boosts performance and capacity for a small price and is way more beneficial for gamers than upgrading the 16GB RAM to 32GB won't benefit gaming.
Anyhow, sourcing and obtaining a brand new exact matching LITEON mSATA SSD was proving a pain with the majority being s/h, refurbished or too highly priced. Therefore I ordered a ' Transcend MSA370 mSATA SATA III - 256 GB' for 92 GBP and fitted this. It's been a couple of weeks now and I can say there's been no issues so far and all appears to be well, well actually better with the added capacity and faster data transfer rates. Bellow are the results from a disk performance test I ran on the 'C:' RAID 0 drive now comprising of 2x factory stock LITEON mSATA SSD's and 1x newly added Transcend mSATA SSD:-
The link for the Transcend mSATA SSD:-
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00K64I1ZG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Despite the fact there appears to be no issues at all so far, the only thing I found is that I am unable to check and update the firmware to the latest one (if there is newer) because running the downloaded utility from the Transcend website, does not recognised any installed Transcend SSD. It's probably safe to assume that the RAID setup is causing this, therefore it was probably best to have sourced an mSATA external caddy/enclosure from somewhere and then connected the SSD externally for updating firmware only. But I'm not gonna bother doing this as it's already installed in X7 Pro and functions ok so far. Unless of course anyone knows how to update it's firmware while within it's RAID configuration? -
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Ha, now Broadwell processor is on it. When can we see skylake version?
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Mobile Skylake processors are not out yet, no launch date announced even I think.
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I don't find that rumor to be credible to be honest, but ya never know.
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Serious, Aorus now seem to have completely forgoten about the X7 Pro V3 on their Aorus.com site, no where to download drivers and it's even impossible to find the X7 Pro V3 under support??
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http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/record/x7.xml
Make sure to download the 'X7v3wt" drivers.
Or if you're lazy just install W10 and use this Drivers Update tool to update your drivers:
http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/X7ap/Drivers_Update_v1.4.3.exe
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Hi all,
New here after scouring the net i came here.
I have a problem and i am curious to whether any of you have encountered and overcome.
Recently i was playing on my Laptop and i shut the top down and it went into sleep mode. Now ever since EVERY boot up has resulted in the laptop booting but the screen staying blank/ black.
i have tried plugging in an external Display with no avail.
i have read back slightly and see some of you have this as an intermittent fault my case seems pretty permanent.
I have forced Shut down and it still does the same upon restart....
help.....
( i have messaged Aorus Support waiting on a reply)
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If you decide to do the above mentioned; then I would recommend first registering for the free Windows 10, then restoring the system to it's factory 'day one' default, then upgrade to windows 10 immediately after so that it's effectively upgrading on top of a fresh clean Windows 8.1 install (the Windows 10 upgrade should automatically grab the already installed Windows 8.1 License Key info - do confirm this for yourself though)... and then proceed to continue with '(2.)' in the paragraph above.
It's your choice though so have a good think first. For me it appears to have cured the blank/black screen problem on boot up, but then again it could be coincidence and maybe down to something else as such is the nature of computers. One thing though, I for one hated loosing the Charms bar amoungst other things - Charms gave me a really quick and UI friendly way of changing display output mode (i.e. monitor 1 only, monitor 2 only, mirror, extend, etc) that I could do between X Pro display and my external LG 42" 3D LED full HD monitor. Performig this procedure now is a more substandard right-click affair. -
Does anyone have any recommendations for a laptop cooler perfect for the Aorus X7?
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NSKRNOU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
Only thing is it has two sliding black rubber grips meant for the upper section of the cooling pad (see 2nd photo in link) the bottom already has two long rubber strips permanently affixed; the two upper sliding ones have to be more or less lined-up correctly so as to avoid the laptops protruding-feet and cooling inlet grill. So, in hindsight they did wisely to make them sliding for ideal adjustability purpose, the only frustration is that hey slide down when you lift the laptop off and have to be held in position by finger when you place laptop back on (I'm too lazy to stick them in place).
With regards to backpack, I did go for the official X7 Pro Backpack even though it looks a bit over flamboyant but I wanted everything to be complete and purpose made. I really don't mind that it's a bit over extravagant, it's kinda cool in a way. However I can understand some owners not wanting it to be too striking, for this reason I kept my old MacBook Pro unibody 17" plain black backpack with pockets everywhere, so I guess I have the best of both worlds.Last edited: Aug 17, 2015 -
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Jeez, that's unacceptable. Luckily this cant be said about the Aorus laptop build quality.
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You have a Warranty with the Bag!! get it sent back my bag is only 2 month old and it is not as bad but already has rips near the Zip!! I
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Indeed, damage near the zip is a text book warranty case.
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Neil Patrick Faller Notebook Enthusiast
Hello Im new here. I purchased this monster at Newegg with "open box" status. I was tempted because of $500 discount. Before I purchased this I had Alienware 15 with 970m but my brother bought it from me and I was curios about the power of 970m SLI. single 970m card can run ultra with 35-50fps and when I tweak some settings and become 50-60+ fps which is super smooth! and I checked 970m SLI can do 70fps+ in ultra so Im tempted and bought it.
I compared everything with alienware 15, to be honest the build quality of alienware is more premium feel specially the keyboard, sound, customized LED, killer wifi and trackpad. The one I received from open box was working perfectly except the keyboard was bent (like waved). I felt bad when I thought I got the sync version and it makes difference from what I've read.
I have a question, when Im gaming the CPU temp is going 95-97C using Realtemp. Is it ok with this? Tried cooling pads and it dropped only 1C. Or I need to repaste with Arctic mx-4? thanks in advance -
, secondly; build quality is something difference over specification, features such as that imo distasteful illuminated trackpad and marketing gimmicks such as Killer lan/wifi. I had avid Alienware owners that saw my Aorus and were astonished on the build quality and the aluminium material selection and overall finish of the laptop, so I'm not sure what the previous owner did with the keyboard (did he take the term face-roll in some World of Warcraft literally lol?), sounds like it seen some rough treatment.
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Try using thermal paste instead of thermal pads.
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Neil Patrick Faller Notebook Enthusiast
I think I didnt mentioned that despite of keyboard flaw I like Aorus better with day by day use. Im used to the fan's sweet sound now and didn't bother me anymore. Most important is the game play's fluidity and Aorus looks better overall. Imagine we have 980 desktop performance on the go!
About the bent keyboard, I fixed this by removing the keyboard and found some broken plastic that snaps at the side and it stocked on sticker beside the screw of keyboard and the screw was tight and it made the keyboard looked bent and wavy. I didnt took a picture, I was thinking to return or replace but it will take more time. Sometimes the camera is not detected but after I restart its working again but it rarely happened so its ok.
About the CPU temp. I purchased the thermal paste I will post here after the repaste and see if that will be the solution. So what will be the ideal CPU temp in our Aorus? The Fan was set to normal or auto low speed but it is using the 5000rpm and still 95C+. ThanksLast edited: Aug 18, 2015 -
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Neil Patrick Faller Notebook Enthusiast
I played Lord of the fallen, Metro 2033redux, project cars. Newegg offers 30 days refund and replacement. Should I refund and buy the syncpro? hmmmm
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Settings used during the test:
I do not play on those settings because then the game only runs between 30-40 fps. I decrease some of the non-essential things and play at 60 fps with V-Sync ON.
As you can see, the max temp by CPU got to was 87C. I'm sure with a repaste you should get MUCH lower temps than your 95C+.
Also email Aorus at http://support.aorus.com/Question/TechQuery and see if it is cheaper to do an upgrade to the Pro-Sync rather than refunding and then buying the Pro-Sync.
If refunding is cheaper, do the refund.
If upgrading through Aorus is cheaper, then do the upgrade.
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Again under the notion the game is capped at 30 fps: I have a perfect understanding of what G-Sync does, and you are wrong on the notion that G-Sync only works between 45 and 60 fps. The perceived experience will remain the same on a G-Sync system whether you have 29 fps or 31 fps, the screen will scale along with the GPU. On a V-Sync system however when the the frame rate 29 fps for any reason it will fall back to 15 and back (V-sync ranges 144,120,100,85,75,72,70,60,30,15). This causes irregularities and not such a smooth experience. So G-Sync does has it's use even at 30 fps, especially on engines such as Batman: Arkham Knight which are not the most stable and are capped at 30 fps out of the box and dips to 29 do occur a lot. -
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I don't see why you would go out and intentionally "tone down most of my games to 30 fps maximum" because "No point in rendering above a hundred fps just for the sake of it."
Your laptop is powerful enough to run games in the 45-75 fps range, intentionally running most of your games at 30 fps is just stupid. It is almost universally agreed that you'll have a MUCH better gaming experience on G-Sync when your frame rate does not go below 40-45 fps. -
Neil Patrick Faller Notebook Enthusiast
Im curious to see side by side difference of g-sync! Still there is no open box for g-sync
Thanks guys for the help! I'll post after I repaste tonight.
Guys do you have problems when booting? Most of the time when I turned on from shutdown it takes long and it successfully boot around 1 min. Before it was around 7 sec and I'm not sure it this was caused by nvidia drivers or some windows 10 updates. How about you guys?Last edited: Aug 19, 2015 -
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Neil Patrick Faller Notebook Enthusiast
Guys.. its nice to have exchanging of thoughts but there is no need to spark a flame in an argument. But thanks for all the info guys.
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