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    ***Aorus X7 Pro owner's lounge***

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by cookiesowns, Dec 15, 2014.

  1. pathfindercod

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    I doubt we will see dual 980's in x7...
     
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    Sometimes I feel Aorus's Driver Updates server is connected via dial-up modem...
     
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    Download from this link, it's much faster (especially if you use a download accelerator like FDM)
    http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/record/X7.xml

    The drivers are separated by OS:
    x64wt (Windows 10)
    x64wb (Windows 8/8.1)
    x64w7 (Windows 7)

    and by model:
    X7
    X7v2
    X7v3 (X7 Pro)
    X7v3g
    X7v4

    Pro-Sync is either X7v3g or X7v4
     
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    Star1child Notebook Guru

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    Thanks, but for some reason appears to be equally slow.

    Downloading System Backup 2015072301.exe has been at 1% for some time with an estimate of well over 7 hours at a speed of 124KB/s. I had attempted to download it overnight through the Aorus Drivers Update software and after 9 or 10 hours later at 77%, I aborted it as it then appeared stuck on 77%.

    I think there's an issue with Macro Engine update to 2.0.9 as despite installing it a few time, it does not appear to register with the Drivers Update hub as it thinks it hasn't been updated.

    No matter, I'm sure Aorus will resolve it soon at some point.

    Battlefield 3 still runs exceptionally well and so do all my game controllers that I use for it, so I'm happy for now.
     
  5. TheFallenPenguin

    TheFallenPenguin Notebook Geek

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    Use FDM, it'll be able to resume downloads and it'll download files much faster. System Backup is quite a big file, 1.7Gb so it will definitely take a while to download.
     
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    The website has updated the specs for the Aorus X7 ProSync, added a 5th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-5850HQ.
    I assume the models from mid-august on will probably have that processor.

    All the other specs are the same, so just a small logical change as the Broadwell are norm, the 5th gen offer no real performance gain to my knowledge.
    Especially comparing the 4th gen i7-4870HQ (2.5GHz-3.7GHz) and 5th gen i7-5850HQ (2.7GHz-3.6GHz).
     
  7. improwise

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    So, what actually happened to the "upgrade to GSync" issue, a lot of speculation but is there some actual facts now about what it is and what it isn't?
     
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    I shot an email (through the Aorus Support message/ticket system) asking about the eligibility of upgrading my X7 Pro to G-Sync. Their reply was:-

    "Currently we are working on the possibilities to provide a paid upgrade program on X7 Pro to X7 Pro-SYNC. Please confirm again with the product serial number, you may see if you can take a photo of the serial number printed on the bottom cover of the chassis. After we receive the information, our staff will contact you further about the paid upgrade information."

    I then replied to them with the info they required (serial number and an attached photo showing the serial number on the rear of X7 Pro). Soon after I received an email from 'gigabytenb.com' (I hope that's genuine) a service centre they use, which for Europe appears to be in Germany - below is their email. Remember price excludes tax/VAT, possible custom's-duty (which shouldn't exist if within EU countries) and final price may vary depending on country. Freight charge appears to be include in the price:-

    "Dear Dudley,


    Hello~ I’m Jane from GIGABYTE Service Center. Nice to meet youJ


    We heard that you have demand of upgrading to X7 Pro-Sync from our call center.


    About the upgrade program, please pay attention to the following information and quotes.

    1. The cost including freight except tax would be US $ 250.

    2. Upgrade location is in GIGABYTE at Germany.

    3. Working days would be 3 days and freight days plus. We will pay for freight.

    4. When the machine finish upgrading, it need to reinstall the system and customer information won’t be preserved. Therefore, don’t forget to back up your own important data.


    Thank you for choosing GIGABYTE laptop.

    If you have any questions, please contact us directly."




    The 'J' after the "Nice to meet You" actually shows as a smiley face which I've not experience from a support centre before! As you can see the price quoted doesn't appear too scary at £162 ex VAT (£194 inc VAT at 20% in UK) when you bare in mind they will no doubt have to physically swap the GPU's, or at least that is what I assume they will do based on a previous post that mentioned different hardware ID's for G-Sync and non G-Sync GPU's. Admittedly I was fearful that the final price 'all-in' might have been over double the amount indicated considering that these latest GPU's aren't cheap and there's two of them.

    So, this is something to seriously consider and would still be far cheaper than selling the unit at a big loss and re-purchasing a Pro-Sync model because you either lose a lot if selling for a quick sale, or takes forever to get the price you want for minimum loss. Besides most of us would do well to hang-on to our Windows 8.1 version factory installed machines as we have the best of both worlds to choose Windows 8.1 or 10 and can always choose either from a system reinstall; however if and when Aorus start shipping X7 Pro's/Pro Sync's with Windows 10 factory installed, then the owner would have to buy a full copy of Windows 8.1 (expensive) and would have less fluidity installing it than the machine purpose-matched recovery tool.

    Back to the Pro-Sync upgrade option mentioned above; I still have many questions which I may put to them at some point, unless someone here is more familiar with some answers then please do post here.

    My remaining questions before going ahead with the upgrade program would be like this:-

    1. Exactly what all components and changes are made? i.e. are both GPU's replaced, IPS LCD display/driver unit replaced or not and drivers installed... or is there more.

    2. Are the replacement parts 'new' or refurbished.

    3. The GPU's will be upgraded to NVIDIA's G-Sync GPU's benefitting from the new G-Sync technology. This technology is in effect a variable Sync technology (a kind of dynamic fps scaling feature). Therefore would the new upgraded G-Sync GPU's be compatible with any or most 'Variable Sync/Variable Refresh' external displays or limited to only NVIDEA G-Sync enabled external display monitors?

    4. If as asked in question '3.' above they G-Sync is universally compatible with other makes of variable refresh rate monitors/displays, then through which interfaces can the variable refresh rate feature be delivered, i.e. mini-display port (up to what refresh rate? - I'm hoping up to 120Hz for 1080p), HDMI (up to 60Hz I presume for 1080p), etc.

    5. I doubt this but I don't suppose they fit/upgrade Mini Display Port to version 1.3 (from 1.2) and HDMI version 2.0 (from 1.3) for improved refresh rate capability through video interfaces used, so as to fully benefit from the G-Sync variable sync upgrade when using external displays?

    6. Depending on the answers for some of the above; after the upgrade what would be the refresh 'maximum' or variable refresh 'range' for the (a.) the built-in display, and (b.) each port of any attached compatible external display?

    Can anyone think of any other critical questions? ... After all these X7 Pro's are highly prized possessions that were also a rather large initial investment.
     
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  9. M0rdresh

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    I don't think the upgrade requires a GPU replacement, not technically.
    It's a licensing matter and perhaps a screen panel replacement that is Nvidia Gsync certified if the current one is not.

    It could be that they just replace your machine to be used as refurbished parts and send you a brand new ProSync model (with your disks swapped). But this is just speculation.
    You could simply reply back and ask if they can provide details as what exactly happens during the upgrade. A reasonable question.

    Anyhow it's awesome news that Aorus provides this service.
    I would recommend it, I wouldn't have bought mine if it hadn't Nvidia Gsync.
     
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  10. TheFallenPenguin

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    I answered this a while back, it's just a motherboard replacement. The 970m G-Sync has a different HWID than the non G-Sync 970m, Nvidia's way of doing DRM.. The new MB will also have the G-Sync license/cookie in the BIOS.
    The different HWID is achieved by changing specific resistors to other ones with different resistances.
     
  11. Star1child

    Star1child Notebook Guru

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    Yes indeed I saw that post, is that 100% the case?

    I guess to hear it from Aorus and/or from the actually company doing the upgrade themselves, is to then acknowledge it as 100% fact and being the case. However this is something they may not want to disclose to graphically. I do prefer the notion though that they may swap out the motherboard altogether which would appear to be the logical route rather than the thought of them de-soldering & then re-soldering the new GPU's with the new HWID's.
     
  12. TheFallenPenguin

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    They don't desolder anything, they just change motherboard.
    I was just explaining the differences between them.
     
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    They replied with this:-

    "I have asked our engineer about upgrading to GSYNC.

    However, he said this is refer to confidential company information.

    And we won’t change motherboard, replace GPU’s chips and I suggest that you remove your extra mSATA before upgrading."



    From what they appear to say (this is the email reply from the Gigabyte repair/upgrade centre in Germany) they " won’t change motherboard" which leaves me a little confused and they also won't go into detail about what exactly takes place. I did shoot them a reply back saying that normally any paid service or goods usually have to have all items/parts and or work carried out being itemised in the receipt or invoice.

    It is a little unclear when they state "replace GPU's chips" as this follows the first part of the statement sentence that says they won't change motherboard, so does it follow that they won't replace GPU's chips. Mmmm....
     
  15. TheFallenPenguin

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    The emails Aorus sends out always have bad grammar :vbeek: haha

    Found out recently that the reason why we're not getting the G-Sync upgrade in South Africa is because the tax on the components would be too much. It would be cheaper to sell your X7 Pro (lose some money) and just purchasing the X7 Pro-Sync. Apparently the estimated cost to do the upgrade in SA is about R10'000 (about USD $783.73), which is why none of the South Africa companies are offering the upgrade.
     
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  16. Star1child

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    Ouch! that's expensive over in SA. I agree, it's probably better to sell and then re-purchase a new G-Sync model and get back the full 2 years warranty and all matching original Pro-Sync packaging/box for completeness. I'm considering this route myself even though the upgrade is more affordable in the EU.

    Knowing my luck by the time I would have sold the unit and then gathered extra funds for purchasing the G-Sync version, by then it may probably come factory installed with Windows 10 only which is not as beneficial as having both, i.e. Win 8.1 and 10 and 10 is not ideal with it's forced updates (no way to disable them) with possibility of occasional updates upsetting part of a gaming rigs harmony - happened to me a while back on Win 8.1 and I was able to restore point-back and then disable some updates for smooth running of setup once more.

    Additionally, after purchasing G-Sync version they'll probably not long release an updated version at some point with much needed Mini Display Port 1.3 and HDMI 2.0 - HDMI 2.0 for 60fps capability (not an unacceptable 30fps) if running at 4K, but more importantly Mini DP v1.3 for 120fps capability at 1080p (with variable refresh/G-Sync of course). This means I'd probably have to send my 'upgraded to G-Sync' X7 Pro to any video interface port upgrade program they may have if indeed they would have one. Should I just wait? Mmmm.....
     
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  17. stamar

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    I noticed on xotic pc the new model with a broadwell chip is for sale now
    Its i believe called 5850.
    No benchmarks tests reviews or orders
     
  18. M0rdresh

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    Yeah, Aorus added the broadwell next to the haswell on their site a week ago.
    Was expecting it to hit the market soon. It's just the CPU that got changed, will probably be about 5% increased CPU performance. Not so much difference between the CPU's.

    5th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-5850HQ (2.7GHz-3.6GHz)
    vs
    4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4870HQ (2.5GHz-3.7GHz)
     
  19. Star1child

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    For those that are interested.

    I recently installed a 'third' 256GB mSATA SSD in the vacant/spare 3rd mSATA slot in order to gain the extra RAID 0 speeds and extra capacity from the stock 512GB to 768GB. Ideally (money permitting) 3x 512GB mSATA SSD's would be great for having a larger game library that can have their levels & maps loading at the quickest possible speeds, however adding a compatible 256GB to match the existing two already on board is by far infinitely cheaper and still boosts performance and capacity for a small price and is way more beneficial for gamers than upgrading the 16GB RAM to 32GB won't benefit gaming.

    Anyhow, sourcing and obtaining a brand new exact matching LITEON mSATA SSD was proving a pain with the majority being s/h, refurbished or too highly priced. Therefore I ordered a ' Transcend MSA370 mSATA SATA III - 256 GB' for 92 GBP and fitted this. It's been a couple of weeks now and I can say there's been no issues so far and all appears to be well, well actually better with the added capacity and faster data transfer rates. Bellow are the results from a disk performance test I ran on the 'C:' RAID 0 drive now comprising of 2x factory stock LITEON mSATA SSD's and 1x newly added Transcend mSATA SSD:-

    CrystalDiskMark Result - X7 Pro 3xRAID 0 SSD 1.Aug.2015.PNG

    The link for the Transcend mSATA SSD:-

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00K64I1ZG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

    Despite the fact there appears to be no issues at all so far, the only thing I found is that I am unable to check and update the firmware to the latest one (if there is newer) because running the downloaded utility from the Transcend website, does not recognised any installed Transcend SSD. It's probably safe to assume that the RAID setup is causing this, therefore it was probably best to have sourced an mSATA external caddy/enclosure from somewhere and then connected the SSD externally for updating firmware only. But I'm not gonna bother doing this as it's already installed in X7 Pro and functions ok so far. Unless of course anyone knows how to update it's firmware while within it's RAID configuration?
     
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    Interesting, I would never mix different drives though.
    I'll do a CrystalDiskMark on my 3x Samsung Evo 850 512GB 3D V-NAND in Raid-0 to compare.
     
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    Ha, now Broadwell processor is on it. When can we see skylake version?
    I'm kinda wish Aorus just go straight to Skylake-H and ddr4. New graphic cards.NVME ssd.
     
  22. M0rdresh

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    Mobile Skylake processors are not out yet, no launch date announced even I think.
    Certainly not before first quarter of next year it's rumored.
     
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    Based on the rumor that I've heard about. The skylake mobile processor will be ready between September to November. Nvidia might launch that gtx990m around October.
     
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    I don't find that rumor to be credible to be honest, but ya never know.
     
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    Serious, Aorus now seem to have completely forgoten about the X7 Pro V3 on their Aorus.com site, no where to download drivers and it's even impossible to find the X7 Pro V3 under support??
     
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    They don't list it as the X7V3, it's official name is the X7 Pro
    http://www.aorus.com/Product/Download/X7 Pro
     
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    Thanks. Well, unfortunately Windows 10 drivers are totally missing for that it seems making me believe that was the original X7 Pro (and yes, last time I checked my laptop was named Aorus X7 Pro v3 on Aorus.com).

    I'm guessing that most drivers for the X7 Pro G-sync would work? Isn't the G-sync the only difference between the computers, so probably all drivers maybe with the exception of Nvidias would be the same.
     
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    The windows 10 drivers aren't available through the site, but you can download them from here:
    http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/record/x7.xml

    Make sure to download the 'X7v3wt" drivers.

    Or if you're lazy just install W10 and use this Drivers Update tool to update your drivers:
    http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/X7ap/Drivers_Update_v1.4.3.exe

    Been using W10 on my X7 Pro for some time now, no problems at all :)
     
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    Well, unfortunately it seems like Aorus has never bothered to check the Windows 10 ZIP-files, most of them seem to be corrupt (according to both Windows 10 ZIP extractor and PowerArchivers). Embarrassing Aorus...
     
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    Hi all,

    New here after scouring the net i came here.

    I have a problem and i am curious to whether any of you have encountered and overcome.
    Recently i was playing on my Laptop and i shut the top down and it went into sleep mode. Now ever since EVERY boot up has resulted in the laptop booting but the screen staying blank/ black.

    i have tried plugging in an external Display with no avail.

    i have read back slightly and see some of you have this as an intermittent fault my case seems pretty permanent.

    I have forced Shut down and it still does the same upon restart....

    help.....

    ( i have messaged Aorus Support waiting on a reply)

    Thanks
     
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    I think (1.) installing Windows 10, then (2.) installing the latest Aorus 'Drivers Update' that should show-up as an update itself within the Drivers Update software when run (should show as v1.4.3), then (3.) I recommend installing the 'Beta' NVIDIA Graphics driver v10.18.13.5371 which actually shows as a considerably newer version that's many versions further than the actual NVIDIA GeForce Experience software which normally itself installs versions ahead of the official Aorus supplied version. Because this particular Beta version is included and shown by Aorus's Driver Update software, I believed that it gave it some credence that maybe Aorus are working and testing this Beta for official release and have made it available possibly because it appears to resolve some issues and in my case it appears to have done so by resolving the dreaded black/blank screen on Boot-up, so I'm happy for now. Unless I've spoken too soon, but fingers crossed as it appears good so far.

    If you decide to do the above mentioned; then I would recommend first registering for the free Windows 10, then restoring the system to it's factory 'day one' default, then upgrade to windows 10 immediately after so that it's effectively upgrading on top of a fresh clean Windows 8.1 install (the Windows 10 upgrade should automatically grab the already installed Windows 8.1 License Key info - do confirm this for yourself though)... and then proceed to continue with '(2.)' in the paragraph above.

    It's your choice though so have a good think first. For me it appears to have cured the blank/black screen problem on boot up, but then again it could be coincidence and maybe down to something else as such is the nature of computers. One thing though, I for one hated loosing the Charms bar amoungst other things - Charms gave me a really quick and UI friendly way of changing display output mode (i.e. monitor 1 only, monitor 2 only, mirror, extend, etc) that I could do between X Pro display and my external LG 42" 3D LED full HD monitor. Performig this procedure now is a more substandard right-click affair.
     
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    Does anyone have any recommendations for a laptop cooler perfect for the Aorus X7?
    Any advise on a suitable backpack would be great too. I have my eyes on the official one, but it has a lot of fluff.
     
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    I use the laptop cooler (below) for my X7 Pro and I like it a lot. It caters for up to a 17". The X7 Pro is a very wide 17" laptop so it does extend either side by nearly two inches, but this doesn't bother me at all:-

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NSKRNOU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

    Only thing is it has two sliding black rubber grips meant for the upper section of the cooling pad (see 2nd photo in link) the bottom already has two long rubber strips permanently affixed; the two upper sliding ones have to be more or less lined-up correctly so as to avoid the laptops protruding-feet and cooling inlet grill. So, in hindsight they did wisely to make them sliding for ideal adjustability purpose, the only frustration is that hey slide down when you lift the laptop off and have to be held in position by finger when you place laptop back on (I'm too lazy to stick them in place).

    With regards to backpack, I did go for the official X7 Pro Backpack even though it looks a bit over flamboyant but I wanted everything to be complete and purpose made. I really don't mind that it's a bit over extravagant, it's kinda cool in a way. However I can understand some owners not wanting it to be too striking, for this reason I kept my old MacBook Pro unibody 17" plain black backpack with pockets everywhere, so I guess I have the best of both worlds.
     
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  34. TheFallenPenguin

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    Don't buy the Aorus B7 Backpack, the quality really isn't that good. I've had mine since late April and it has already start tearing. I only use it about once every 2 weeks and usually carry my X7, the charger, some headphones, a mouse, a mouse pad, PS4 controller and a disc drive.
    Here are some pictures:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    Jeez, that's unacceptable. Luckily this cant be said about the Aorus laptop build quality.
    Will definitely not order that one, thanks for the heads up.
     
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    You have a Warranty with the Bag!! get it sent back my bag is only 2 month old and it is not as bad but already has rips near the Zip!! I
     
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    Indeed, damage near the zip is a text book warranty case.
     
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    Hello Im new here. I purchased this monster at Newegg with "open box" status. I was tempted because of $500 discount. Before I purchased this I had Alienware 15 with 970m but my brother bought it from me and I was curios about the power of 970m SLI. single 970m card can run ultra with 35-50fps and when I tweak some settings and become 50-60+ fps which is super smooth! and I checked 970m SLI can do 70fps+ in ultra so Im tempted and bought it.

    I compared everything with alienware 15, to be honest the build quality of alienware is more premium feel specially the keyboard, sound, customized LED, killer wifi and trackpad. The one I received from open box was working perfectly except the keyboard was bent (like waved). I felt bad when I thought I got the sync version and it makes difference from what I've read.

    I have a question, when Im gaming the CPU temp is going 95-97C using Realtemp. Is it ok with this? Tried cooling pads and it dropped only 1C. Or I need to repaste with Arctic mx-4? thanks in advance
     
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    First thing; welcome ;), secondly; build quality is something difference over specification, features such as that imo distasteful illuminated trackpad and marketing gimmicks such as Killer lan/wifi. I had avid Alienware owners that saw my Aorus and were astonished on the build quality and the aluminium material selection and overall finish of the laptop, so I'm not sure what the previous owner did with the keyboard (did he take the term face-roll in some World of Warcraft literally lol?), sounds like it seen some rough treatment.

    Hmm, while some games can be maddening on the CPU, BF4 is one of them, I rarely see 95C. I think Intel specification is set at 105C consistent for thermal shutdown, dont think 95C or 97C is going to wreck it. I did do a Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra cpu/gpu repaste though. I've been active in IT since mid nineties, Intel CPU's is the most single robust component in the industry, these things are indestructible almost. With the 3 year full warrant coverage I got I'm not worried. Are you fans set at 'gaming' or 'normal', do you even have the Aorus software suite installed?
     
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    My CPU temp has never been that high :eek: Try using thermal paste instead of thermal pads.

    Definitely, but any premium thermal paste should be fine

    The hell haha, can you take a photo of that?
     
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    I think I didnt mentioned that despite of keyboard flaw I like Aorus better with day by day use. Im used to the fan's sweet sound now and didn't bother me anymore. Most important is the game play's fluidity and Aorus looks better overall. Imagine we have 980 desktop performance on the go! :)

    About the bent keyboard, I fixed this by removing the keyboard and found some broken plastic that snaps at the side and it stocked on sticker beside the screw of keyboard and the screw was tight and it made the keyboard looked bent and wavy. I didnt took a picture, I was thinking to return or replace but it will take more time. Sometimes the camera is not detected but after I restart its working again but it rarely happened so its ok.

    About the CPU temp. I purchased the thermal paste I will post here after the repaste and see if that will be the solution. So what will be the ideal CPU temp in our Aorus? The Fan was set to normal or auto low speed but it is using the 5000rpm and still 95C+. Thanks
     
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    Yeah it's a beast. The performance is that great I tone down most of my games to 30 fps maximum because due to the G-Sync it feels butter smooth even at that frame rate. No point in rendering above a hundred fps just for the sake of it. High twitch games I tend to cap at 60 or 75, depends.

    There is no real ideal temperature, though the highest I've seen in reviews is 95C. It really depends on ambient temperature and most of all the game and to what extent it used the CPU in addition of both GPU's. On what game do you get 95C?
     
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    I played Lord of the fallen, Metro 2033redux, project cars. Newegg offers 30 days refund and replacement. Should I refund and buy the syncpro? hmmmm
     
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    Yes, you definitely should in my opinion.
     
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    That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week, G-Sync only works between 45 and 60 fps. The point of G-Sync is to tweak your game settings so that you run in that 45-75 fps sweet-spot, only console peasants play at 30 fps! You're honestly wasting your money if you bought a $2600 laptop just to play at 30 fps.

    G-Sync is there to remove stuttering and tearing. The only reason you would cap a game at 75 fps is if the game isn't very demanding (even with all the settings maxed) and you're still running above 75 fps, frame rates above 75 fps would be out of range for G-Sync and you'll start to get tearing, by capping to 75 fps you'll be able to take advantage of G-Sync. If the game is demanding, just increase the graphical settings until the game runs between 45-75 fps, don't just cap the fps.

    I'm haven't done a repaste on my laptop, so here are the temps on stock paste running GTA V at max settings for 45 minutes:
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    Settings used during the test:
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    I do not play on those settings because then the game only runs between 30-40 fps. I decrease some of the non-essential things and play at 60 fps with V-Sync ON.

    As you can see, the max temp by CPU got to was 87C. I'm sure with a repaste you should get MUCH lower temps than your 95C+.

    If you're willing to spend the extra money then go for it, how much more would it cost to get the Pro-Sync compared to the regular Pro?
    Also email Aorus at http://support.aorus.com/Question/TechQuery and see if it is cheaper to do an upgrade to the Pro-Sync rather than refunding and then buying the Pro-Sync.
    If refunding is cheaper, do the refund.
    If upgrading through Aorus is cheaper, then do the upgrade.

    Hope all of this helps :)
     
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    My actions are not ridiculous and it's my business if I decide I want to tone down a game (whether that is for battery life, heat or reduce cooling necessity or just for the sake of it) in terms of frames per second If I feel I don't need more for that particular game. So my further reply is based on the notion that I want to limit certain games to 30 fps, I never meant to express that I bought an Aorus to limit my games, I just have a tendency to limit the games I play to what frame rate I need. If you cannot phantom that, walk on and ignore

    Again under the notion the game is capped at 30 fps: I have a perfect understanding of what G-Sync does, and you are wrong on the notion that G-Sync only works between 45 and 60 fps. The perceived experience will remain the same on a G-Sync system whether you have 29 fps or 31 fps, the screen will scale along with the GPU. On a V-Sync system however when the the frame rate 29 fps for any reason it will fall back to 15 and back (V-sync ranges 144,120,100,85,75,72,70,60,30,15). This causes irregularities and not such a smooth experience. So G-Sync does has it's use even at 30 fps, especially on engines such as Batman: Arkham Knight which are not the most stable and are capped at 30 fps out of the box and dips to 29 do occur a lot.
     
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    And that ideal frame rate is 30 fps... worst reason ever?

    The true range of G-Sync is between 30 fps and the max refresh of your monitor (75Hz in this case, so 75fps). But a better experience can be had, everyone says that you should not run G-Sync below 40-45 fps. That why I said "45-75 fps sweet-spot". But don't believe me, here are some quotes from all over the internet:


    Start at 5:50

    Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=160832659&postcount=604

    Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=160843885&postcount=605

    Source: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/variable_refresh.htm

    That game is capped at 30 out of the box, you didn't intentionally cap it.

    I don't see why you would go out and intentionally "tone down most of my games to 30 fps maximum" because "No point in rendering above a hundred fps just for the sake of it."
    Your laptop is powerful enough to run games in the 45-75 fps range, intentionally running most of your games at 30 fps is just stupid. It is almost universally agreed that you'll have a MUCH better gaming experience on G-Sync when your frame rate does not go below 40-45 fps.
     
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    Im curious to see side by side difference of g-sync! Still there is no open box for g-sync :(

    Thanks guys for the help! I'll post after I repaste tonight.

    Guys do you have problems when booting? Most of the time when I turned on from shutdown it takes long and it successfully boot around 1 min. Before it was around 7 sec and I'm not sure it this was caused by nvidia drivers or some windows 10 updates. How about you guys?
     
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    Your objection is noted, however If feel I want to limit for example Diablo 3 to 30 fps than that is my concern. You're entitled to your opinion, but no reason to ridiculize my preferences to make your point.

    Where did I state that I intentionally capped Batman Arkham Knight? I dont recall typing that anywhere or do I have a problem with cognitive abilities as well now?

    You originally said and I quote "only between 45 and 60 fps" and I responded to that. Now your version has suddenly shifted from "the only" to "the true", of which I agree that's the range when G-Sync truly comes to fruition however my correction on the 30 fps and G-Sync stil stands. Thus no need for a thousand internet references based on your false assumption that I know little about G-Sync just because I limit games to 30 fps. Get over it.
     
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    Guys.. its nice to have exchanging of thoughts but there is no need to spark a flame in an argument. But thanks for all the info guys.
     
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