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I'm highly worried about the temps. I'm playing Assassins Creed Unity and the temps are at constant
92-95 C. This is driving me crazy. I guess I'll do a IC diamond repaste and see if it affects it. Has anyone else seen such temps till now?? Also, this is my first time doing a repaste - Can anyone here whose done a repaste on this laptop walk me through it??
don't bother with repaste, won't do much for ya. even with my CLU, I can hit 90 degrees playing stuff like evolve for more than an hour. the bios update I think pushed the thermal threshold up to 95 degrees so you can game longer before any throttling can occur. I haven't had throttling since.
I think 95C would kill my CPU sooner than later, or thats how I feel as i'm not used to see such high temps on CPUs. I'll do the repaste anyway since I ordered it. I hit 94-95 on atleast one of the CPU temp sensors pretty quickly and thats alarming. I tested with BF4 and the temps were just as bad and I din't even play it for more than 15 min. I'm going to have to get a laptop cooling pad as well to blast air in the centre where there are vents above the CPU. One more thing I noticed is that the GPU run at least 25-30C cooler than the CPU temp. Maybe they should've given a fan to the CPU and made the GPUs share the other one.
and 95 degrees won't kill your cpu. if at anytime your cpu/mobo whatever is close to frying the pc will throttle down or will shut off automatically...
its an expensive purchase, would understand someone not wanting to keep it if being able to swap out the battery in the long term was a huge deal. i'm more likely to sell mine while still under warranty within 2 years so not a big deal. even if I do keep it, the thing is already a wall hugger for a laptop. Given that I got it for $2k I'm happy with the purchase, even with short battery life, heat issues, etc. still plays any game I throw at it, which is what mattered most.
I'm not looking for battery life extension.
I just use to have spare ones at hand just in case of failure.
I don't like losing my time waiting for "repairs".
Things like battery and hard drive replacement I do myself.
Hmm, I guess I've been fortunate. I've had laptops since 2003 and only had to replace the battery on one laptop and that was an old work Dell. The only other gaming one I've purchased, the Alienware 17, hasn't had any problems. That doesn't mean that others haven't. Totally understand wanting to have a spare lying around, but I guess I'll worry about that when the time comes. Mine is mainly a wall hugger unless I travel, and even then, my iPad is the first choice unless it's a long term trip. We'll see how things go then.
I meant that fans are on Max. For now, I just turn on max when I benchmark or when gaming. But it seems that on Auto-Max it goes to high anyway when needed. Going to try some long gaming sessions later today once I get back home.
I've got many laptops that eventually needed a battery replacement. The main reason is because I often use them unplugged and that shortens the battery lifetime/durability.
I also travel frequently and that made me choose a light and thin laptop, although I hate slow computers. So, I decided to bear with all the drawbacks of the Aorus X7 Pro and made a leap of faith.
No complaints about the laptop, but the manufacturer's policy is criminal, terrible and stupid. If they will void warranty if I replace the battery there's no reason not to sell it.
Now we are all forced to buy in the aftermarket and take the risk of having an improper battery detonating in our laps. Who will be responsible for the damages?
Hello
i got mine from Gentechpc(Theyre very patience and friendly) on 6 of february and its a great machine!
i asked for repaste to help and i don´t see its getting hot like others
Got some benchmark with futuremark and im getting only 10xxx score..maybe im doing something wrong with the drivers since i changed the operation system to 8.1 enterprise.
Gpu temps are very good playing normal games and some hardcore games too. Cpu temp got a lot hot but never close to 85 c
Fans can get a bit louder but only when youre playing..so no problem here
Does anyone know which GPU (1 or 2) is where?? I want to know when I disable the SLI, which GPU gets enabled and which is disabled. Because one of the GPUs has a better connection to the CPU plate. The other one has only one heat pipe connected to it. If we can selective disable one with better connection maybe the temps will improve better.
Also, the one heat pipe which is not screwed onto the CPU is just hanging on top of it and they have some pad on the bottom panel which I assume would press it onto the CPU. Is there a way that I can make a more solid connection than that. Like some high temp tape of some sorts. When I opened up the laptop, the connection was barely there (it was almost floating on top of the CPU plate) and I doubt how much of a force those small pads could apply.
Totally forgot about traveling that way. User replaceable battery for when you are away from the outlet for too long or trans-atlantic/pacific flights. Also, with the way this computer goes through battery life, you would probably need like 4 or 5 batteries.
I think what you are asking for is not possible. Powerful computer with a great battery life, thin and user replaceable battery. I don't think we are there yet, but it should be soon. Also, if you find a computer that allows you to do all that, let me know because I would also pick it up in a heart beat.
Like Cormogram says, make sure that you turn on the SLI. It comes from the factory with SLI off. Not sure why they do that, but it does. So just turn it on by using the Command Center.
Another reason that your scores may be low is just check which version of 3DMark you are using. Since they have different scores between 3DMark and 3DMark 11 and check to see if you are using Firestrike or one of the other testing parameters.
With the included software to turn off and on SLI, you cannot select which GPU you turn off. I don't know if there is a program out there that lets you do that.
I didn't find the perfect laptop. To cope with the short battery life you gotta use some discipline to save energy and that includes switching graphics, unless you want to game on the road, but that's not my case. The X7 Pro doesn't allow it and that sucks! There's an awesome Iris Pro 5200 siting there still. Such a bad decision.
Also remember that 3DMark benchmarks are very susceptible to CPU/GPU loads. To get proper results close down all applications. What I really do when benchmarking is to run Game Booster[1] before the benchmark application. It will close applications and turn off services automatically with the press of a button and then restore all of the services to their previous states.
Another point is to assign the PhysX processor to the CPU. If you let it in "automatic (recommended)" it will be set to one of the 970M and therefore the scores will be lower.
He's right in assuming the cpu will run hotter using PhysX. then again the gpus will heat up the cpu as well of course. at any rate, ran 3dmark for 4 hours straight, temps never hit over 89 degrees. maybe clu takes time to cure or something. pretty happy, had zero thermal throttling. 14200 in 3dmark11 after heating it up all day.
Yep, very close to mine too. Numbers are off either high or low by very little, so your system is running just fine. Enjoy it! I'm still in awe of what this machine can do. I don't even know if I'm taxing it or not.
The advertised "P14000+" is the 3DMark 11 score for the 1280x720 resolution in Stretched Mode.
You must also take care of other loads in the CPU and GPU because it will certainly lower the 3DMark 11 score.
Update on temps, I tried the intel XTU tool to monitor if my cpu was thorttling and it was. Atleast by 10% when SLi was enabled. When SLI was disabled, it was throttling to upto 20-40% percent. The CPU temp hangs at ~93 most of the time. And in the forum here I dont' see anyone post any such temps. I'm really worried about this. I'll try a repaste again today. The sad thing is I get this temps even if i'm playing, which isn't that intensive on the CPU and the cards. It feels as though my cooling is so bad that it always runs to 95 and then throttles. Do I have a bad piece on my hand here?? Should I try to get it replaced?? Can anyone else PLEASE try these games at 1080P and max settings to see if you reach such temps. I reach them in a few into the game. I'll try the repaste tonight and post the results here.
PS: I'm playing AC Unity and Dota 2 as mean of stress testing.
There could be something wrong with your cooling. I did have my comp repasted by XoticPC when I bought it. I've played Dying Light, GW2, Dead Island and going to try NBA 2k15 and Shadow of Mordor later tonight or tomorrow.
With the first 3 games I've played for more than 2+ hours at a time each on a 3440 x 1440p monitor, max settings and no cooler. My highest CPU temp was 91 degrees. I averaged around 83 - 87c at any given time.
I don't know if it's the IC Diamond repaste that is giving me those temperatures, but I'm happy. You may have an issue, try repasting again if you haven't, if not, then maybe you do have a faulty one.
Repaste done and HOLY SH*T!! The temps dropped by almost 15C. I think the pasting job was exceptionally bad on my unit. THe thermal paste gunk was all over the place and it looked badly done. Took a while to clean it up. Did the repaste with IC Diamond and stuck a small folded paper bind the thermal cushion on the mid thermal pipe over the CPU - This thermal pipe makes a good contact with the CPU with the help of the cushion on top of it being pressed on by the bottom panel. So to increase the pressure I stuffed a bit of folded paper between the cushion and the bottom panel. Played AC Unity for some time (15-20min) and the temps hung around 79-82C. I couldn't believe my own eyes and used other temp monitors as well to check if it was really that cool and it was. I'll test it again tomorrow under more prolonged tests but the initial results just blew me off.
I highly recommend this to other people if they see too much of a high temp on their CPUs. The GPUs are kept pretty cool anyway but if the CPU is not being cooled then it might be a bad pasting job or the third heat pipe is not making a good contact.
Glad you make it!
Not long ago I've invited all the resellers around here to post a video of their repaste procedures. Not a single one replied.
Since that's not the first case, that just goes to prove we don't really need to buy a repaste job from those guys. In fact, that's such a deal breaker to me.
Who did the crap?
I'm not sure if xotic pc does the initial pasting job or it gets pasted in the factory. I dint ask for a repaste, I just did it myself . It cost me 8 bucks for the IC Diamond and another 8 for the rubbing alcohol. I just saw a video of Linus Tech pasting a processor and I was all set.
What Gear332 said is correct. If you bought it direct or if you bought it from a reseller without asking for a repaste, then it will just be basic repasting.
I got mine repasted from XoticPC and mine came out great, but I think that this is very much a case by case situation. Also I wonder if the contact thing is an issue because I doubt that XoticPC would have checked and fixed the contact if it comes like that from the factory. So that could be something to check if you repaste it yourself.
Oh and I got my repaste done for $16 thanks to the XoticPC sale. And Genetech does a repaste for free. At least back when I was looking at the two different companies. I do feel that this computer benefits from a repaste.
I thought I seriously screwed up my Aorus the other day. Left Sleeping Dogs on overnight, and dont know when but thermal throttling kicked in (max temps reached 93 degrees even with CLU, may go to ICD7). I think it took 5 hours or so to happen. At any rate, game was still running but frame rates cut down from 50s to teens... I rebooted my computer and it was still thermal throttling. Powered it off, waited 10 seconds, and it was OK. Honestly need to stop obsessing with the thermals and running all the tests. As I said earlier, I have to be playing on this thing for hours and hours and hours before getting an episode like that.
When I was benchmarking mine I've got not much heat from the GPUs, max temps were below 160F all the time.
The problem was the CPU and that's why throttling kicks in.
So, instead of freaking out with every bit of GHz I could squeeze out of the CPU I just took the happy road to low temps by underclocking the 3 and 4 active cores to 32x.
Default is 35x so it isn't that much of a drop and the temps got perfectly under control. No throttling at all.
I also had the CPU undervolted to -100mV.
Note: My fan control was always set to Stealth and the room temperature were the usual 65F.
I've decided to keep my Aorus. I'm pretty happy with it. There are a couple of things that annoy me about the computer.
Besides the obvious ones of CPU runs hot, some throttling (but nothing that affects me), and SLI...
First, the keyboard. Something is off about this keyboard to me. The keys feel mushy to me. And I hate the small right-shift button. I keep hitting up instead of right shift. And the Num-pad 0 button is smaller, but it hasn't caused me a problem yet.
This thing is a fingerprint magnet. The metal parts could be clean with a cloth, so keep one nearby. The second one is how to clean the keyboard. How do you clean the keyboard? That is the only thing that is annoying me right now. If anyone can tell me how to clean the keyboard, I would appreciate it.
Other than that, I like my new laptop. I thought about returning it to get either a new Alienware 17 or something else, but I think I'm happy with the power and thinness of this laptop.
the keyboard will get permanent fingerprint stains over time. wiping them down with microfiber will just polish in the oil. using qtips and 90 percent iso-alcohol is what i do to keep it looking new longer, but it won't work forever. fingers will take a toll. the rest of it can be wiped down with enough determination. but yeah, a fingerprint magnet. wish they would do a red version or something like msi. the red msi was beautiful and fingerprint resistant.
1. Does anyone else's keyboard flex like in this video? I got my laptop yesterday and middle of the keyboard is lifted up like in this video, if you pry it up with your finger nail, the whole mid section of the keyboard lifts up and off the laptop:
2. Does anyone know how I can free up the 15gb taken by the recovery partition on the C drive, I already created the USB thumbdrive and would like the extra space for other uses. Thanks!
Holy crap, yeah mine has a small bit of flex, but nothing like what you are showing. That top portion definitely does not look right at all!
The outer keyboard bezel sits pretty flush with the rest of the laptop frame (at least for mine)
I opened it up and found the 4 or 5 silver keyboard holding screws, tighten it, and now it's much better, there is still some flex but at least now I know the keyboard won't fly off one day, but this is a very disappointing find in such an expensive laptop, their quality control really needs to be improved, my first unit arrived with a dead usb port (left side), this is a second one already and now it has keyboard problems... sigh, I think I will just keep it, too annoying to have to return again.
It is also very odd that my first unit (shipped from newegg new jersey) came with a screen protector for the glass touchpad, and this second unit (shipped from newegg california) did not.
I expect the laptops with the screen protectors for the trackpad are the newer versions since I heard that it was a common complaint that these laptops didn't have them. Aorus then had a promotion that if you registered your laptops, they would mail you the screen protectors. Now, they just include them in all new purchases of the Aorus X7 Pro. Now, there is no difference between the older and newer versions except for the screen protector, so don't worry about that. Also, I expect the "older" X7 Pros are just earlier stock that retailers have. Doesn't mean they aren't new.
What you can do, is just email them asking for the screen protector and they should mail it to you.
Also, I should check my ports, now that you mention it, just to make sure that they work too. And it is disappointing that didn't check the keyboard better, but I'm glad you figured out how to fix it. It's a great laptop if you know what to expect out of it. Great desktop replacement, sexy design, runs a little hot, so repasting helps.
As for how to do it, you can check on youtube. I know several other people in this thread has done it themselves, so they will probably advise you on how to do it.
- Actually I found that the touchpad is more responsive (easier to use) without the screen protector lol... so I'm gonna skip that.
- From the 18 pages I've read here, people had mixed results re-pasting the cpu and the temp didn't drop by much at all even in the best case scenario (maybe 5 degress less), so it's probably not even worth the trouble to mess around with that, the two year warranty should cover any possible heat damages down the road.
I have the protector, but I haven't put it on yet. So don't know yet.
As for the repasting, I got mine repasted when I bought it from XoticPC. So I'm glad it got done. I don't know if I would have done it myself if I didn't.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
