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Hi folks! I want buy a 500 GB SSD for my p35x (I want to change the 256GB from the factory)
any suggestions?
How to know if it is compatible?

 

What format?
I have a 1TB 2.5" SSD in the internal HDD bay, it works just fine.
mSATA ports should be able to support 1TB mSATA SSD, at least that's what I'm saving for.

Regards.

 

I do not know...
That is, I want to change the SSD system.
It is not removable hard disk (which can be replaced by DVD), but internal.
I managed to explain?
Thanks DelFang!

 

Ok, my experience is that if you try to replace the default internal HDD with a 2.5 SSD to use as system drive, DON'T!
I tried many times, endless freezes 5 mins after reaching the desktop. Leave the system drive in the mSATA SSD.

Regards.

 

DelFang,
Sorry if I can not explain well. My English is not very good...
I just want to replace my 256 GB SSD with a new 500GB SSD.
In the actual SSD 256 GB I have the operating system. And I want to continue using the new 500 GB SSD for the operating system. I managed to explain?

 

Alright, i get it now. You want to replace the default 256GB mSATA SSD with 512GB. There should be 2 mSATA slots, 1 used by system drive, 1 empty (depends on the configuration you bought).
There are 2 ways to have 512GB systen drive: you can either replace the 256GB SSD with 512GB version, or put another 256GB in the empty slot, and then set the SSDs in RAID to have a 512GB partition.
I would use tue first method, clone the SSD, then use the smaller one for file history and backup.

Regards.

 

Thanks!!!
You are right! I actually have 2 mSATA SSD 128 + 128.
Then I could keep one and add the new!
I do not know how I can do cloning...

 

Ohh that's a bit tricky: your P35 is currently using both mSATA SSDs as one drive, you won't be able to login as soon as you remove one of them because you only have half of the system left. You'll need to get an external mSATA adaptor to clone the system onto the new 512GB SSD before removing any of the default ones.

After clone the system drive, remove both 128GB mSATA SSDs before put the 512GB SSD in, make sure it boots up ok. The original system partition is 256GB, which means you'll have 256GB of unused space on the new SSD: either create another partition or increase the current partition to use the whole 512GB.

There are many free software available can clone entire system, I personally use EaseUS ToDo Backup.

Also remember to backup all the files in your C drive onto another hard drive if possible, just in case.

Regards.

 

Delfang, you're awesome!!
I understood everything perfectly!
THANKS you very much!!

 

This is the SSD I think buying. Is it okay, right?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...+III+Internal+Solid+State+Drive&condition=new

 

That's a 2.5" SSD, not a mSATA. Search for "mSATA SSD".

Regards.

 

Hi DelFang, one more question:
In my country I do not get 500GB mSATA ... So I bought a 500GB SATA.
Then, my idea is to replace the HHD 1TB with the new SSD 500 GB SATA. And use the Sata SSD 500GB as system disk.
Any problem with this? I hope no problem!

 

I'd recommend against that: I tried same thing with 1TB 2.5" SSD, the system freezes after login, makes it totally unusable.

Will you be able to buy two 256GB mSATA to replace the two 128GB mSATA? You can set them in the same RAID as before so they will be read as one SSD by the Windows.

You'll have to clone the system to a external hard drive first, then make a recovery USB thumbdrive to clone the system to the new set of SSDs after replace them.

Regards.

 

You can try to install a new system in the 500GB 2.5" SSD if you want to (after remove the two 128GB mSATA SSDs). If the new OS doesn't work, you can always format the 2.5" SSD and put the two mSATA SSDs back in. This way, you don't loose any file in the current OS.

Regards.

 

thanks so much DelFang!! I will do like you say... wish me luck!

 

Has someone tried to repaste the GPU & CPU of the P35X-v3 with Liquid Ultra?
I have seen mentions of this in older posts, however I cannot find feedback on the results.
Also has the application of CLU caused any issues on the CPU, GPU or the cooling pipe surface of this laptop in the long run (assuming it was applied correctly)?
So far, I have tried IC Diamond and Gelid Extreme. The resulting temps have been very similar.
I just ordered CLU and think of giving it a try. Any feedback would be very welcome.

An additional inquiry is whether someone has successfully installed 2133MHz DDR3L modules on this laptop.
Again there was mention of this in a previous post, but no response or feedback was given.
Owners of Asus ROG laptops have mentioned that G.Skill modules successfully worked at 2133MHZ, without changes in BIOS, on the HM87 with i7-4700s series even though this frequency was not 'officially' supported.
I am wondering if this is also the case with the P35X-V3.

Thank you!


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That was me. Using the laptop now, haven't re-pasted since (although I haven't done any more benchmarking either!). See Page 150, Post 1500 which summarised all the tests I did at the time.
Hope that helps!

 

Hi Sparkle999,
Thank you for the response on this one!
Just to confirm, you used CLU on both CPU&GPU, right? Both CPU&GPU temps show considerable improvement over using Gelid Extreme or IC Diamond.
Would you have any tips or pictures of the repaste that you can share? I will be repasting in the next few weeks.
Other than this have you had any performance or other hiccups that may have caused concerns over the long term use of Liquid Ultra?


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I got the 1080p p35x v3 with 980m 8gb and like it except the noise factor. I have read the forum from page 357 to 299 and at this point have done the following.
Made a usb backup of OS, pulled out the 128Gb OS Msata and replaced it with a 1tb Samsung EVO Msata. Installed windows 10 clean from a usb stick using media creation tool. I did this a a few days ago and it didn't require a key for activation or any upgrade from 8.1. It seems to include the nov 12th updates as far as i can tell and is not asking for any more updates. I updated bios and most of the drivers from the Gigabyte site and then again quite a few more from the included update program. Then I installed XTU and undervolted by about 60 mv and downclocked the 3rd and 4th core to 27. I haven't repasted, if i can find my artic silver from 5 years ago i will. I haven't messed with my fan speeds using the included utility either.


I am looking to decrease the fan noise as it is still pretty loud when gaming. Can anyone advise on this? I assume using the msi program to downclock the video card will help or should i achieve this through fan settings?

So far i am having no problems with the windows 10, other than initially some HDMI sound issues when connecting to tv. Strangely it was saying it was getting the sound from Intel, not nvdia, but perhaps that is normal with with this architecture?

Is there a way to search this thread specifically or a good FAQ somewhere? Still got 300 pages to read.

Thanks to anyone taking the time to answer question/s..

Other than the noise this laptop is almost perfect for my frequent travelling for work and being able to fire up a game once in a while with a smaller foot print. 1400 on Newegg seemed like a pretty good deal.

Once i get this all going good long haul is to Try dual booting macOS on this as per Jhax1 who made a nice video on youtube.

Other longer term plan is to put 2 seagate 2tb HD's from removed from costco enclosures in and perhaps another 1tb msata but that seems like overkill based on the price.

 

Hi,
I have been trying to find the BIOS mentioned on your post, however the latest version for the P35X-v3 is FD0E / F015.
Where did you come across it?


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1.If you already repasted and undervolted , theres little you can do, other than maybe getting a cooling pad. You might squeze a dB or 2 out of messing with the fan settings and gpu clocks, but at the cost of performance. You must consider that this laptop is only around 2 cm thin, with a cooling system thats pushed beyond capacity. Laptops with a 980M, that remain relatively quiet during gaming are usually 2-3x thicker.

2. Thats right - all displays connected to a notebook with optimus tech. are connected directly to the intel gpu. Thats why we cant have nice things, like g-sync When the nvidia gpu is activated , the intel gpu only passes the video signals through, but the tv/monitor/display is stil physically connected to the intel part.

 

Yep (carefully and with some trepidation, as it's conductive...)

Well, I cannot claim to have done this sort of thing many times before, but essentially I bought the paste, read the instructions, watched a few youtube videos and off I went. You need to be careful with the case, from memory putting it back on was a pain. But as long as you are careful and sparingly apply the paste, you should be okay.

I did a little test for you. I thought it might be interesting to see if the performance of my machine had degraded or not since I got it. Now, there are many caveats here: different graphics drivers, different BIOS, fan settings are definitely different from way back, 3D mark may have changed, Windows 10 etc etc.

BUT.... I set the fans to custom/100%, undervolted by 50mV, overclocked the GPU to +135/+575, fired up 3d mark and ran the firestrike standard test. Score was 9075, Graphics Score was 10675, Physics 9409, Combined 4169. CPU max temp was circa 80C or so. This compares rather favourably to a score of 8954 with identical settings when I originally pasted it. So I conclude that there has been no material degradation in overall performance. I accept that this was not a comprehensive battery of tests, but it's been a long day

 

Have you tried out the quiet setting on smart manager? Frankly, I've been using my laptop in our lounge hooked up to the plasma and found that it handles games like the Witcher 3 or ACU without any problems, and quietly too... I'm not suggesting this would get you the absolute maximum performance out of it that way, but as ever it's a trade-off between one thing and another. Give it a whirl, it you might find it helps? Other things to consider are capping frame rates and such like in whatever games you are playing.

 

No i didn't try the fan stuff, as long as there is not a way to damage things, i don't mind lower performance at all - this thing is a beast for the size.

 

- no, i haven't repasted anything yet and yes i appreciate the power this thing provides for the size/weight, its amazing. 2 - thanks for the confirmation on the intel passthrough. I understand a repaste will lower temperatures and therefore require less cooling. I assume fans turn on based on temperature so it should equate to a quieter machine as well?

 

Have a look at the posts a few pages back, just use Intel XTU to create profiles you want, if you drop the max speed to 2.4 you get pretty quiet running and most games etc run fine.

I use normal fan profile.

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Has anyone been playing Fallout 4 here on their P35x lately? I have dropped my CPU through XTU to 2.5 GHz and it never goes more than 85c now. But for some reason even when the FPS dips in the 30s the GPU is still at ~70-80% utilization only, not the full 99%. CPU also is never more than ~50% utilization. I have noticed this in a couple of other games too, namely GTA V. I some times get FPS dips without full utilization of the GPU. Temps are great on the GPU btw never going much beyond 79-80c.

Is there some power throttling going on? How is it possible to determine whether power throttling is happening or not?

 

Is this the best video for repaste info for p35x v3? Any suggestions on paste type or instructional video are appreciated - Thanks.

 

Yes that video will do. Any big brand paste will do unless you're feeling adventurous.

Regards.

 

Is there a way to get precision touchpad-like gestures with this mouse pad? The ELAN drivers do seem to have 3 finger support but since its not a licenced precision touchpad, microsoft doesnt enble the handy features. Is there a 3rd party option?

 

Anyone of you use this beast for csgo? I do and only get 150 fps max, even at 600x480 resolution lowest settings. This must be a usage issue seeing as cpu and gpu are at 20% load. Any idea on how to increase this usage and what fps are you getting?

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At those very high fps figures, then maybe the system RAM is becoming the limiting factor, maybe you need faster and/or lower latency RAM, although it is strange that CPU usage is low (unless CSGO doesn't use multiple threads & is instead just maxing out one or two threads of your CPU which could be your limiting factor).

 

Thank you for the reply. None of the threads exceed 20% usage. Never thought about RAM being a potential bottleneck. Most players agree on 300 fps being the ideal fps for csgo for minimal input lag, regardless of what the screen can actually display and I know many players who achieve this with lower end rigs, including older RAM.

 

Have you got a max frame rate set in nvidia control panel? Or maybe within game settings? Sounds the most likely cause if you're getting stuck at 150fps

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Try setting "Prefer Maximum Performance" in the NVidia Control Panel for the CSGO game. And make sure you're on the Max Performance setting for Windows Power Options.

 

I don't seem to have this option? I think the nvidia control panel is very limited in options because it's an optimus system? Is there anyway to unlock full control panel options?

 

I've never heard of that option in the NVidia Control Panel either & I don't have Optimus. "Prefer Maximum Performance" and not having v-sync enabled (which you don't) are the only relevant options to you in the NVidia Control Panel I think.

 

Think you'll only find it with Nvidia inspector 'frame rate limiter' no idea if this has a preset max. Just seemed like you were maybe hitting a max setting somewhere.

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I used the supplied Smart Update app to download the BIOS update, however, I still haven't noticed any changes.

 

Well, my dead p35x v3 turned out to be more than the PSU. The gigabyte 'official' UK warranty repair center have had it for over a month. Word of warning to any potential Gigabyte purchasers - the warranty process is shockingly bad compared to most major rivals. I am thoroughly put off ever buying gigabyte again, spoiling an otherwise impressive product.

 

that really sucks sorry to hear that. When i sent mine in for repair on the GPU the US depot was very quick and i had my laptop back within 2 weeks. You might just need to call them and keep bothering them until you get your laptop back. It might be slow from the holiday season as well.

 

If you PM us your info we can see whats going on with your RMA work.

Thanks,

GIGABYTE NB

 

Happy New Years! Most of our laptops are past the 1 year old mark at this point. Congratulations!

 

Info no longer required. Thank you.

 

Is there a way to get precision touchpad-like gestures with this mouse pad? The ELAN drivers do seem to have 3 finger support but since its not a licenced precision touchpad, microsoft doesnt enble the handy features. Is there a 3rd party option?

these are the features: http://lifehacker.com/learn-the-new-precision-touchpad-gestures-for-windows-1-1726398925

 

Has anybody set up a mSATA RAID on their p35x on their own? I'm looking at giving it a shot.

 

Hi,
Any chance you could send a screenshot of the Smart Update screen whenever convenient?
I still cannot see this anywhere. Do you have the P35Xv3?
Many thanks


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I actually have a v4, so that might explain it.

On another note, has anybody had extremely slow boot times with W10 and ssds? I recently got a new Samsung 850 EVO mSATA and did a fresh install of windows on it and it still boots in close to two minutes. My other Samsung ssd was doing the same thing.

 

Is the screen black for most of the 2 minutes? If so its a relatively common issue with Win 10 and how it handles video drivers, it sometimes causes additional delays (from a few seconds up to a few minutes depending on how "lucky" you are). Mine was booting in about 7-8 seconds on Win 8, now on Win 10 its about 15-20 sec.

Update your intel video drivers, if it doesnt help reinstall Win 10, dont let it download anything an check if its still there.

 

It sits at the Gigabyte screen for the vast majority of the boot, with the spinning Microsoft circle near the bottom. Once it gets past that, everything is lightning again.