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    ***Gigabyte P35X owner's lounge***

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by Cakefish, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. markjk7

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    I'd be tempted to get a monitor with mDP instead, the adapters are hit n miss... I've got a 120hz monitor and regret not paying few £ more for the mdp version :-(

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    Yeap I decided against it. The monitor is a steal though for a PC that would work with it.
     
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    question to the owners: Does mDP port is connected to discreet videocard of to intel HD graphics? You can see it on Nvidia control panel - > Set Physx configuration
     
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    Both HDMI and miniDP are connected through the Intel HD GPU.

    Regards.
     
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    Anyone heard any rumors on release date for the Skylake model? Dying to pull the trigger but I've seen rumors of the MSI GS60 going Skylake on the 27th and don't want a few weeks of waiting to cause me to miss out!
     
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    Not sure why all the fuss about skylake. It's neither going to be much cooler, nor much faster, from my limited understanding. For gamers, there is little difference since most games are GPU bound anyway, especially with the upcoming DX12 architecture. If anyone knows something different please explain.
     
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    rumor is sept 27th for skylake clevos as that is when skylake is out so maybe then?
     
  8. medfreak

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    Got my P35xV3. It's looking exactly as expected. CPU definitely runs in the mid 90s on anything slightly demanding and is in the 50s on eco fan mode on idle/ light browsing. Will seriously consider repasting if I feel it will significantly affect extended gaming sessions.

    One thing I miss in my previous y510p that I wish I can have on the gigabyte but I am not sure how to achieve. Is there any way to limit battery to charging to 60% of full capacity when plugged in? That would be really nice. Any third party software that can achieve that ?
     
  9. DelFang

    DelFang Notebook Evangelist

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    Is there a particular reason for that?

    Regards.
     
  10. medfreak

    medfreak Notebook Enthusiast

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    95% of the time I keep my laptop plugged, and keeping a Lithium ion battery charged all the time at 100% usually deteriorates its health overtime. Battery health tents to be better if it remains charged between the 60-80% range... as far as I know..

    Also, I just updated the Smart Manager using smart update, but the FAN is no longer responding to the tweeking in the manaer. I use customize and push it to 100% and it still is quite, while in the old manager I put at maximum fan setting and the fan would ramp up immediately.

    Is this a bug?
     
  11. medfreak

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    HWinfo64 says the CPU is throttling as expected. However I have done various benchmarks in GTA V, Crysis 3, Battlefield 4, Dragon Age inquisition and Shadow of Mordor, and they all seem to be performing on par with benchmarks from notebookcheck for the 980m, in fact slightly better than their benchmarks overall by 2-3 FPS. I suspect the improvement is just related to the updated drivers.

    But overall, it does not seem throttling is such a big deal. Average CPU clock hovers around 2.9-3.1 GHz.
     
  12. medfreak

    medfreak Notebook Enthusiast

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    Repasted CPU / GPU. First time I ever do this, and it was nerve wrecking. Did it twice. I also undervolted the CPU by -70mv and it is so far stable. GTA V still gets the CPU to 90+ temps and it throttles down, but the average CPU frequency with throttling is about ~3Ghz. Percent throtteling is 4-8% on average. Also this is done on a crappy cooler pad. Not exactly what I had hoped for, but then again the benchmarks are still close to standard numbers on other websites.

    Not gonna try repasting again. I already saw a scratch on the CPU when I went for the second repaste. My credit card covers damage / theft for 120 days but I would rather not use it lol.
     
  13. medfreak

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    In my case it is quite the opposite. Under very heavy load, the GPU barely hits 80, usually stays in the high 70s, while the cpu is always pushing 90+. This is in GTA V. It looks like my GPU is 99% utilized all the time and the CPU anywhere from 40-60%.
     
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    Jokerz4Ever Newbie

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    Hi There,
    been reading this forum since I purchased my P35X in March this year.

    So far i'm sorry to say it's gone back under warranty twice so far. First with the main Enter key failing on the keyboard(??) and now with odd red blotches appearing when the screen is displaying dark colours.

    The repair centre in the UK currently have my laptop and I'm missing it quite badly right now lol.

    Has anyone else had to return theirs under warranty more than once and if so did you contact the original vendor for an exchange/refund? I got mine from a company called http://www.box.co.uk/. Anyone had experience with them?

    Also anyone else notice that the keyboard appears to be raised on the WASD side? Is this normal?

    Sorry for all the questions!!!!
     
  15. DelFang

    DelFang Notebook Evangelist

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    No, I've not returned mine under warranty, I bought mine from Scan.co.uk.

    Yes the keyboard is little bit uneven but I've not experienced key register problem when use them (I mostly use external mechanical keyboard). No problem with display either.

    There are 2 I'm aware that had return the laptop, one of them is the person whom started this thread, and sadly he decided to replace it with other brand's laptop that suits better.

    Regards.
     
  16. Jokerz4Ever

    Jokerz4Ever Newbie

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    Hi,

    Thank you for your reply.

    Is there a reason that the keyboard is raised or is it something to do with something warping in the laptop?

    i do like the machine and it suits my needs although I suppose once the GTX980 laptops come out I may look at them as I need a machine that will replace my desktop completely!

    I'm just a little bit shaken with the P35X as its £1500 that has already gone faulty twice! I had an Asus G750JH previously that lasted for two years but the equivalent spec in the Asus range was way too expensive.
     
  17. DelFang

    DelFang Notebook Evangelist

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    You could loose or tighten the keyboard screws at the bottom to adjust the keyboard level a little, but I think the lack of keyboard backplate for the thin profile cause the keyboard to sag into the cavities inside the laptop.

    It's little late to ask for a brand new replacement after the 28 day window, but the manufactor (Gigabyte) is required by law to fix your P35.

    Don't hold on too much breath on the 980 though, unless the laptop is also equipped with desktop-grade i7, otherwise it will be heavily bottlenecked and not much faster than the 980m.

    Regards.
     
  18. Jokerz4Ever

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    Awesome!

    thanks for the info. I find the best thing to do is wait one or two laptop generations before changing anyway lol. Expensive business!!

    I have some spare thermal compound (Arctic Silver I think) around, is it worth applying it to make the machine last a little longer by reducing the thermal profile and will it invalidate my warranty?

    Also can you upgrade the SSDs in the P35x? I already use two 1tb 7200rpm HDDs for storage with the 128 GB SSD that came with the machine.
     
  19. DelFang

    DelFang Notebook Evangelist

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    Repasting will reduce the temps by around 10 degrees, and it will NOT void the warranty as long as you don't break the seal on the fans.

    There are 2 mSATA slots for the mSATA SSD (1 of them already used for the OS), and you can put SSD in the 2.5" drive bays. I myself uses 1TB 2.5" SSD in the internal drive bay for installing games, currently saving up for a 1TB mSATA SSD to replace the 128GB OS drive.

    Regards.
     
  20. Jokerz4Ever

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    Excellent thank you for the info.

    I am thinking maybe going long term with this laptop if it doesn't have another "moment" in the next 6 months! I have already increased to 16GB RAM and the MSata would probably be next on my list. Probably change the wireless card too as it is the last thing to power on when you switch the laptop on!
     
  21. DelFang

    DelFang Notebook Evangelist

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    I heard many complaints about the default wifi card, most people seem happier after replace it with killer card. I had some problem with the intel wifi card when using router but no trouble with mobile hotspot; since I'm using my phone as hotspot 99% of the time, I did not change the wifi card on mine.

    Consider it's been almost a year since receiving my p35, and it's the first batch with 1080p display, and I have not had any problem that require sent it back to repair, I'm feeling extremely happy :-D

    Regards.
     
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    I'm actually really quite p****d about this laptop now. Bought it a year ago and CPU temps never hit the 90s even when playing the bundled Far Cry 4. Then in the summer I noticed that it was hitting 95-96 so I just put it down to the hot weather. Now it's winter again and the CPU still sits at 94-96 even when playing old games like Borderlands! I've undervolted to -70mv but it's made hardly any difference, and underclocking doesn't seem to be supported on this CPU. I wouldn't mind but the Laptop has BSOD three times now after playing a game for more than a few hours (NOT undervolted) so I'm guessing it's overheating as it doesn't do it any other time.

    Throttling during Intel benchmarking is around 15-20%, but overall I would have liked throttling to kick in at the 90 mark and not let the CPU constantly hit 95-96. I now have little choice but to try a re-paste but given that it was fine before makes me think something else is going on here.

    Yes, that's exactly what I'm seeing too.
     
  24. jhax01

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    I believe there was a BIOS update that increased the max temp to 95 from 90, presumably to reduce throttling.

    I use Intel XTU to underclock the Cpu on my P35W as a lot of games seem to crank the CPU up for no real reason so I hav several profiles depending how much fan noise vs performance I want :)

    Sent from my Sony Z3 using Tapatalk
     
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    I actually wouldn't mind the increase to 95 if it weren't for the fact I've had reboots during heavy gaming sessions. I undervolted mine and it didn't seem to make much difference to be honest. The fact that it throttles at around 15% during gaming (before undervolt) according to XTU means that even with a -75mv it's still hitting 95.

    I was even happy to do an underclock via XTU but it doesn't seem to work even though it appears to let you - the before and after benchmarks are identical.

    Annoyingly the silent profile in Smart Manager does underclock the CPU down to 2.00 Ghz (so it CAN be done somehow) but that's a little too low as you even get stutters in HD Youtube videos at that point.
     
  28. rinneh

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    It is possible that the heatsink is not seated correctly in your unit and or the thermal paste isn't applied correctly. But these machines do throttle very easily.
     
  29. markjk7

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    Something not quite right there then. XTU definitely alters my clock speeds which in turn lowers fan speed and/or temps the silent fan profile decreases max Cpu speed but on balanced power and normal fan settings through gigabyte tool should allow XTU to alter the CPU speed and setting.

    Sent from my Sony Z3 using Tapatalk
     
  30. medfreak

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    It has always throttled for me in CPU intensive games like GTA. Even Witcher 3. Battlefield 4 seems to be doing well with no throttling. I suggest you repaste your laptop.
     
  31. slikvik

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    Could you do me a favour if you get a chance and just verify exactly what clocks you're lowering so I can try again. There is an updated XTU that I've installed that has an improved benchmarking page which allows you to directly compare before and after. I'd be interested to see if you see a lower benchmark after underclocking (as expected).

    Medfreak, I'll do a repaste shortly and see what happens.
     
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    While using Windows 8, I already read of someone in this thread that had the problem that his Bluetooth stopped working after resuming. I felt happy that I didn't have this problem, since I use Bluetooth mice all the time.
    After upgrading to Windows 10, it got me, too. Very often, after resuming from Standby (S3), the Bluetooth LED is off, the icon in the Systray gone, the icon in SmartManager greyed out and all the devices in the Bluetooth node in the Device Manager except Intel(R) Wireless Bluetooth(R) disappear.
    Has anyone stable Bluetooth after suspend-to-RAM/resume? If so, with what driver version?
    Thanks a lot in advance!
     
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    Hi All. My 3k screen p35x v3 has been excellent so far (with 2 x crucial mSATA raid0, bluray drive and SSD added post-purchase) however my power supply recently kicked the bucket. When plugged in to the wall, the LED on the power supply block lights up, but when plugged into the laptop, the LED fades to nothing. It does not light up again unless you replug it in to the wall. Does anybody know if this is a power supply issue, or internal distribution board issue, because i really dont want to RMA a £2000 laptop for a failed power supply block.
     
  34. markjk7

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    Done a couple of quick benchmarks with XTU, new version is possibly a bit funky as had some high periodic thermal throttling numbers up to 40% which seem nonsense, anyway 2 screen grabs attached, with profile I use for quiet fans when playing Elite and another default clocks, both with -50 Core voltage offset. Graphs show the peak processer speed and fan speeds also are very different for the two tests. Hope it helps.

    Edit: should mention I'm on an older BIOS as I liked having CPU limited to 90c and not sure how to limit it any other way, if anyone knows a way to set a max temp that would be useful.
     

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    Thanks for that! I've now replicated your -50mv and x24 underclock my score is roughly the same at 445 but my max temp (while cooler than normal) is 83 degrees, so still a lot hotter than yours at the same settings! Definitely something hot about my setup. Did you say you'd done a repaste? I have some on order now.
     
  36. markjk7

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    Mine is just stock, I've got some mx4 I was going to use but not got round to it. In theory the temps at low clocks should be similar on all machines with the normal fans setting, as the fans ramp up based on temp. Definitely worth checking both fans are spinning and a repaste could really help...

    Sent from my Sony Z3 using Tapatalk
     
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    Anybody know what's new with the beta BIOS update FB08 / F016? Just flashed it, haven't noticed anything different yet.
     
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    There are some good deals to be had on these, looking to replace my XPS 15 with something I can actually game with. How is everyone doing on battery life? Think I can pull at least 3-4 hours just web browsing? Only thing I'll miss is my QHD touch screen, and some styling, but overall I'm looking forward to a P35. Anything to look out for besides temps and noise? I already have a notebook cooler.
     
  39. DelFang

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    The battery in v3 will only last 3-4 hrs on just browsing, maybe dim the display and close all the unnecessary background processes can squeeze another 20 mins.

    Temps and fan noises are fine as long as you don't play video games in mute on your lap. The keyboard is fine - worse than Dell's at similar price range but usable, but the trackpad is horrible, barely tolerable when you don't need to do a left-click (or right-click), and forget about the middle-click.

    Although the P35 is very thin for a 15" gaming laptop, it's not the lightest, so carry it around on your field trip might not be a good idea.

    And the last thing I can think of right now is that, the air intake of P35 is quite small, so make sure there's airway underneath the laptop.

    Regards.
     
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    Hey guys,

    Im trying to decide on a p35xv3 for $1399 or a p35xv4 for $1850.
    Have they made any major improvements to justify the extra cash?
    Thanks for the advice!
    Stoked to find a low key beast like this.
     
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    Does the P35Xv3-CF6 (1080p variant) have an IPS panel? Having trouble finding information on its screen quality.
     
  42. DelFang

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    I believe they all have IPS panels, I have no problem with my 1080p display.

    Regards.
     
  43. Arthedes

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    Looking to buy a 60hz 4k panel in a few months.

    I've had the V3 for a while now but I always questioned about this: does it support gsync via hdmi or displayport to external monitors with gsync?
     
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    The short answer is: No.
    The long answer is: In order for gsync to work, the nvidia gpu has to be connected directly to the monitor. In the case of the V3 , the Nvidia GPU is connected to the Intel GPU which passes the video signal through. In order to get Gsync working you would have to somehow disable the Intel GPU while still retaining the passthrough. AFAIK in the V4 they solved it with a switch in the BIOS ( you can either have optimus or gsync and have to restart when switching), but no idea if something like this would be possible on our units with a custom BIOS and i dont think anyone is willing to risk bricking their P35X just to test it ;)
     
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    Hmmm too bad then, V-sync it is!
     
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    Nono, you're doing it out of order. First buy a new laptop, then a new screen. jk jk. But, am I the only one that's very satisfied with how well their P35X has been holding up? This thing cost a premium, but I still don't regret the purchase, especially when reviewing the current available options.
     
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    Yeah its still holding up well. Heard the ones with 5th gen intel proc's are running as hot as these, so no upgrade there apart from g-sync compatibility.

    But who needs g sync when you can run any game at 60hz v-synced :D
     
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    Does freesync work though? or does it need to access the gpu directly aswell? heard it runs through displayport
     
  49. jiexi

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    Probably a question that Gigabyte support may actually be able to answer. They usually understand their spec sheet pretty well.


    Interesting website that ranks laptops on a 1 to 10 scale by performance and portability. Razer Blade -> MSI Ghost -> P35X
    http://thelaptopsearch.com/searchresults.php?pricerange=0+-+3299
     
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    Freesync is an AMD thing.
     
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