NEW Gigabyte P34 V2

This decision is so hard and time is running out ...

 

From what you said it seems you should be able to wait 4-5 days for the official unveiling of these gpus?

I'm not exactly in a comfortable position waiting either - the CF5 and CF6 finally are in stock to buy as of last week, at what is almost the worst time to buy them... I'd rather buy right now but am forcing myself to wait a little longer to make an informed decision.

It's all down to time and cost, which we can't know until one more week when new laptops should be announced - until we know whether it will be one month, two months, three months or more.

 

my main thing is this.

GTX 860m is awesome but is just not quite there on 60 FPS consistently on high settings.

I believe the 960m will be able to perform consistently 60 FPS on high settings. And this would be worth the wait.

What do we know for a fact on the 960m? is it really 30 % increase and the 980m will preform like a GTX 780? Is this all true?

Is the 900m series going to blow away the 800m series?

 

No idea unfortunately.

I don't ever trust synthetic benchmarks - I won't take any information seriously until having seen some reviews with real game performance.

Who knows whether the p34g will get the 960m, 970m or a 965m if that exists - it's all guesswork at the moment.

 

Also here is a problem. They are just releasing them in October so actually getting a notebook built with the 960m is probably not going to be until first quarter 2015 so that means no playing games for another 4 months for sure.

That is something you want to think about. Do you want to wait another 4 months for 15-20 percent increase?

 

That is exactly what I said was my main concern - but again it is an unknown at the moment. Which is also why I said if I find a discount on the p34g v2 any time soon, I will not be waiting for a revision.

The p35 v3 could be much sooner, which is something else to think about as based on information in the main thread it should have at least the 970m which will be a huge performance boost.

 

When you say huge what do you mean?

Also if it's that huge then I don't care if I have to wait till late December or early Jan-feb.

You think 50% increase? I just want ultra high settings on BF4 with 60 FPS.

 

Compared to an 860m, the 970m should be much more poweful. I know I said I don't trust synthetic benchmarks - which is true, so take it with a pinch of salt.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...race-yourself-new-maxwell-cards-incoming.html

Look at the last few pages in there. One of the tests of the 970m apparently was from a p35 v3 which is why I hazard a guess that this might be released much sooner than a p34g revision. I don't even know if the p34g will get a 970m version or whether they'll just go with a 960m or similar. It is a safe bet that the p35 v3 however will use a 970m in one configuration.

 

I searched all through it and can't find bench marks with the p34g v3. Where did you see thay.

I dud see the Cuda cores of like 1600 somwthing? That is insane. The g60 is getting the 970 and the p34 is getting the 960 or 970.

To be honest if msi goes with 970 with 15.6 matte screen I'm probably switching because it will be a 4gb card too.

It's a sexy laptop and the only reason I didn't go with it is because of maxwell.

Now there is no confusion. You can buy whatever laptop you want with maxwell and run nice and cool.

I think I'm returning this thing man. The Performance increase is too much.

 

according to the benches there:

p35 will get the 970m and the 980m

there are no benches on the p34g

the 960m will be new given that there is basically no difference between that and the 750ti, so they should disable 1smm or 2 for that core from the 970m, 1smm is a unit that nvidia uses to group the cuda cores

if we go by that 20-30% difference between models, the 960m should perform the same or better than the 870m, around 10% better. Because the 970m performs better than the 880m and that is true on the extreme presets from synth benches that they posted there

given the past launches of gigabyte, they announce quite early and the first batch is out very early, subsequent ones take some time to get there.

Vid my case of buying the CF4 in amazon UK and when the notebook was supposed to arrive I received an email saying that it should take 1-2 months to get there. There is no doubt that some people got theirs on time, but I was too down the line.

you keep saying that you have weeks to return the notebook, so wait till we have more reliable info, there is nothing to be desperate.

 

I think i only have like 7 days and I think I have to have the laptop their delivered at the door before end date. I do not think I can click return on the last day, or can I? What do you think?

From what I am reading the MSI on some international websites are already having preorder pages up for the GTX 970m and GTX 980m. MSI Gold Edition PE ...

I would buy that exact laptop actually and people are saying that the laptop is only 4 weeks out.

That is nothing.

6 GB Ram GTX 970 will be a smoking graphics card. I would get the 980 if it was in a small form factor but I believe it will be to big. but if its the same size i'll get the 980.

Do you know if the GTX 980m will be in a slim notebook like the MSI Ghost? Because if so decision is made.

Return laptop and purchase MSI Gold Edition Ghost GTX 980m regardless of price.

 

there is no info on the gs60 or gs70 coming with the 980m, there are some benches on the p35 with the 980m

though I have to say that I dislike their flexible case and build quality, aside the inclusion of the numerical pad, to which makes the whole thing be off centred and causes my back to be in pain when typing. interesting enough both the gs and the p35 suffer from the same flaws, including the not mentioned overheating.

 

Hi guys, I read somewhere that SSD should be connected to a port that is in AHCI mode for best performance? Not sure how to check if mine is or even if there is a way to change it? I have windows 8 installed.

 

There are sites all over the place that show msi having the gold edition with the 970 or 980.

Ya that would be a big laptop.

But just like the razer blade with the GTX 870 is a really decent card.

So a 6GB GTX 970m maxwell will definitely hit the sweet spot and should fit in a small form factor.

It would be a dream if you can get a 15.6 G60 with a GTX 980m though.

Heaven.

 

I never said anything about seeing "p34v3" benchmarks - I said P35 v3... please read my post more carefully.

In any case, we've given you all the information available, which is half educated guesswork anyway - we're all in the dark and anything more would be baseless speculation.
You've got to make up your mind what you want to do with your laptop - no one here can do that for you.

 

Do you think the only reason why its only the P35 because the 970m and 980m are to big of cards? Will they not fit into a smaller frame like the 934g?

 

No idea at the moment.

970m might work or it might not - maybe they won't put higher than a 960m in a p34g.

 

Do you think 980m will be slick and sexy?

If you could get a 15.6 slim GTX 980m that would be butter.

 

Dunno - it may be possible or it may be an oven.

 

Tell me what you do know for an absolute fact.

 

Seriously? I thought that was clear - nothing at all. I'm just an average consumer going by what I've read on this forum and elsewhere and extrapolating based on the information available. I am as much in the dark as anyone. Please don't take anything as fact, certainly not before these gpus have been officially unveiled and proper reviews published.

3 days now and hopefully you and the rest of us will get some answers.

 

You check it in SATA settings in the BIOS

 

Well I think you should wait and get a 960m or 970m in a sexy form factor and be done with it.

 

From all of your experience. Do you think we will see a 970m or 980m laptop this year or no?

 

Gigabyte and pretty much all major brands will have the latest GPU options available on release. So if the 9XXM are released this year then I would say Gigabyte will have it available. Its up to Nvidia to release it.

 

there are no sites saying that they have the GS series with the 980m

we do have benches of the p35 with it.

my sweet spot is the blade with a 100w TDP GPU in it

 

Astrongtower and Curunen please stop spamming this thread with off topic stuff about the new GPUs! It starts to get really annoying so please start a new thread if you want to talk about that...

 

Very well, I will stop answering inane questions with baseless opinion.

Generally if someone asks me a question I feel obliged to reply to it - which I'm sure you can read by the content in my posts - from what I can see it's only the last 3 or 4 posts that I consider to be a waste of space. Funnily enough I consider this post also a waste of space, but I feel obliged to reply to you.

In any case it is not offtopic given this laptop is a prime candidate for one of the new gpus - which is good for any prospective buyer to be aware of.

 

Yeah i absolutely agree with you that it not entirely spam and i think that it is really nice of you that you try to help Astrongtower so much!

@Astrongtower please wait for the official nvidia release because until then absolutely everything is just speculation and nobody knows anything for sure.

 

I just got my P34G-V2 from iBuyPower today! I'm pretty happy with it so far but have a few questions. Is there some way to disable the "tap to click" feature on the track pad? Mine seems to be waaay too sensitive and ends up clicking almost half the time. Second, is there a way to force the GPU off and use only the integrated chipset for when I travel and am not gaming? Finally, the screen itself seems pretty sharp, but some programs have kind of blurry text. Firefox looks great, but Steam leaves something to be desired. Anyone else have this issue/a fix for it? Thanks!

 

1. go the ELAN in mouse properties, you will see there is an option
2. you can try go into the BIOS, there is an option to disable the 3D graphic card.

 

So I've been a sort of long time lurker on these forums for laptops and I thought I'd finally join so I could get some opinions and thoughts:

Ok so I've been needing a laptop for a while and had waited for the refresh of the P34g to the P34g V2 and now there's talk of another refresh-with the 960m series-does that card even make much of a difference compared to the 860m? Or is it only marginal at best; since most of the talk was centered around the 970m and 980m with the P35? So should I wait till the announcement since it's only a couple days and see? Though the problem is I'd still need to get it--and return it since I have to use it for school for now--since I don't have a "functioning" laptop I can bring to school without it dying within 3 minutes... And our classrooms don't have wall sockets near us that I can plug in, not that I could find that was reachable anyways. :/

So either I get it and keep it I get it and return it... Though knowing Gigabytes refresh it'll take months for them to actually release them to the US and then for the retailers to have them in stock--like what happened with the P34g V2. -__-

And I was wondering what people thought about OCZ ssd's going roughly for $100 on sale on New egg, a 250gb?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._mmc=EMC-GD091514-_-index-_-Item-_-20-228-106

Apparently from what I've read so far on reviews it's better now that Toshiba had bought it out... But I was wondering if it was worth it for that price? It is pretty low and the sale only lasts for 48 hours... So yeah any suggestions--thoughts?

And if I do end up getting the SSD and put the Windows 8 on it, how easy is it to put the factory Windows 8 on it--or do I have to buy another Windows copy/license--and then reconfigure it so that Gigabytes backup utility works with it? I'm assuming all of Gigabytes drivers are on their website, including the bios right?

And one last thing, have we figured out a way to unlock the bios, or I should say was it released public yet?

Thanks

 

The blurry text can be fixed by fixing your scaling and resolution. I remember reading on Gigabytes FAQ that they posted about this issue and how to solve this exact problem. Though I'm not sure why the text comes out blurry to begin with--wrong resolution maybe(?)-but Gigabyte did address the issue on their site.

 

Might be overkill, but does anyone use a Tom Bihn Vertical Brain Cell with the p34g?

I have a size 2S for a laptop I used in the past but unfortunately it would be cavernous for the p34g, otherwise I would reuse it. Judging by their size guide on the website, I'm thinking a 4Z should be about the right size, given the dimensions of the p34g are 340x239x21mm?

Unless someone has a better recommendation of a sturdy hard case for this laptop - although I haven't been able to find anything good enough compared to the durability of a Brain Cell.

 

P34GV3 with 970m is a fact
Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4710HQ,GIGABYTE P34V3
Question is when is the release date? everything will be known at friday when nvidia officially release them and NDA is over, companies will be happy to announce 970m laptops by then rumors that reveal at sep19 but actual sell date is OCT11

970M Perform better than 880m and easier to cool than 870m so the boost in performance is not tiny at all, you are looking at a little bit over double (30 to 65FPS~)
p35 is getting 980m option too http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8680916 (980m is 5% less than DESKTOP 780 performance wise)

 

Damn... I guess so then wait? I mean I don't have to order it till early next week, I just need it before class and then return it... I just don't quite know how it works when you use NewEgg's Preferred (Financing) optioning... Like how do the refund and stuff.

And you said Oct 11 would be the rumored release date but that's for the GPU not the laptops correct? And any thoughts on OCZ?

Also is it easy to reinstall everything to a new ssd? I've searched through but I couldn't really find anything, regarding this specifically for gigabyte. On the gigabyte website it says if the gigabyte utility doesn't work then it means you did a clean install and to get in touch with the retailer...

 

For SSDs it's not recommend to use old install data, backup your stuff to external HD then do a clean windows install for a new laptop and move your stuff
OCZ is Garbage avoid at all cost, get a samsung EVO/PRO840/PRO850 or Crucial MX100/m500

Shipping laptops shouldn't take long they are simply changing the gpu, the rest stay the same, Reveal sep19/shipping oct11 is known dates currently
resale value would drop a lot if you get none 9xxm if you need something now just get a cheap used laptop for now then sell it later on

 

Uh... Damn... I don't necessarily have an external HDD handy... And backup what stuff--I mean if it's a new laptop I won't have anything on it--so then do you mean clone the drive? Also how would the clean install work if I don't have an extra license of Windows?

Does gigabytes laptop automatically activate after installing the windows copy?

Ah... Samsung and crucial aren't on sell right now haha. Ok then.
I also heard the Samsung Evo ends up running slow when accrued with data... So I guess go Pro?? And I've had a Samsung before so I like them but I only asked about OCZ because it was on sale.

 

Does anyone find after the latest BIOS update the fans spin at different speeds from each other? Sometimes the left fan is blowing harder than the right fan and vice versa..... Also my GPU temps have went up? Could this be the cause? (To those who updated to latest BIOS; what is your top GPU temperature?)

 

GPU nearly 90'C max (Auto fan mode) with IC Diamond repasted.
Room temp less than 20'C

 

WHAT!?!? This is a FATAL error on Gigabyte's part... Just as I thought, the GPU fan is slower than CPU and as such GPU is dangerously hot. I found the same temps with this new BIOS version. I IMMEDIATELY went back to the old one, much better now in the 70's. THIS NEEDS TO GET TO GIGABYTE ASAP. CPU can run OK at 90 but the GPU was NOT designed to run this temperature. I'd advise everyone to roll back to previous BIOS so you don't fry your GPU. It seems Gigabyte goofed big time. XoticPC, since you guys talk to Gigabyte on a different level than we the end user, please make them aware of this issue! (Also while you're at it,. ask them to allow us to set up custom fan curves

 

Does IBuyPower sell the CF2 or CF4 version of this laptop?

 

His gpu software probably broken not reporting correctly or something seriously wrong with his laptop
my p34gv2 never reach 70C 0 throttle, max out high 60 durning gaming
Video editing 24/7 all night the cpu usage 100% never throttled too was running 3.5GHZ

GPU can run 90 just fine btw 100% can it would start throttle if it was going higher, new bios maybe lowering fans speed you can put max fans using gigabyte software and see if its still that high (noway)

 

No mate, there is nothing wrong with mine.
I was using GPU-Z and MSI Afterburner, both programs are getting the similar GPU temps~
Gaming is no problem too~ just getting higher temp after the new BIOS (I noticed the difference earlier... but just lazy to put this on topic here...)

 

Hi Astrongtower,

Could you please let me know what you are thinking of the Poweradd powerbank you linked to above.
Did it comes with a tips that did fit the P34G V2 ?
Is it able to charge the computer ?
Can the laptop battery be charged more than once with the powerbank ? (What's the average autonomy you get when using the powerbank).

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm looking for a way to have a real full day of work with the laptop while being off the grid.

Thanks for any help/answer.

 

Yea when running fans on Turbo fan speed is really high and temps really low. With the new BIOS, I haave reached up to 90 playing games. Confirmed by MSI Afterburner, HWMonitor and Intel XTU. As soon as I revert to old BIOS, same setup/monitoring and temps are in the 70's....

 

Our P34GV2s come with the 47.73Wh battery. So more similar to the CF2. Hopefully that helps.

 

The offering is actually neither CF2 nor CF4, it's a barebones build which is why you'll see the default specs different than you'll find in other stores. Same base machine we all carry just the default specs being different and warranty being directly through IBP instead of having Gigabyte support.

 

Sorry to bring the graphics chip back up. I don't care or need the graphics power. However, the v2 is still more interesting due to its Maxwell being more energy efficient and manufactured in a smaller process. Is there anything for a v3 with 9xx chip that could be better aside from better calculating? Might it even be worse than the v2?
A display port or HDMI 2.0 for 4k displays would be one thing I'd much appreciate. Then again even the current chip does support it, Gigabyte just hasn't implemented it, right?

 

both are maxwell

its going to better in all regards that make a higher end GPU better than the other, faster calculations, more FPS, and also more heat

the current GPUs as far as Im aware don't pack the ability of HDMI 2.0, the newer models may have those, we aren't sure of anything in that regard.