[HowTo] SO-DIMMs Extreme: Boost 1600 to 2133 and beyond / JEDEC & XMP

did anyone ever get more than 8gb to 2 run at 2133 or higher yet?

 

John I think I can I'm about done on 2266. In two days I'll try to run my 4 4gb sticks for 16gb. So it would be 4 samsung 1600 at 2133. My second pair are stable at cl13 so I'll test at cl13. I'll let you know asap John. I know individually both those pairs are stable.

 

ok, cool. because i finally go around to testing all my ram again and now i have
2 4 gig hyperx
2 2 gig hyperx
2 2 gig smasungs
running at [email protected] cl12

 

Brother John that rawks! Nice job I'm glad you got sometime to do more testing too. I'll post my thp for you too .
I also noticed the 1.65v has had no I'll effects over time so far at these speeds.
Could you tell me if that 12gb is at jedec 12-12-12-36? Or you worked on a custom? Did you think my basic method sounded pretty good to find a fair timing for all time use?

 

i had to make it from scratch. but my problem is trying to take that and make it into a xmp which seems to elude me for the moment.

 

I had same prob for what I needed on 2266. Before starting that I had made a thp with 2133 jedec cl13 on the spd ext. On XMP1 2133 @ 9-10-10-25 which I got working but by setting the speed and voltage manually as well as in the second tab of xmp editor. On XMP2 I had jedec cl 12.
When I initially tried to make xmp2 cl13 and the full volts it wouldn't work. I think vdim or vcc entry must stay at 1.6v and maybe the other can go to 1.65. On my xmp1 it worked when I had both of those set to 1.6v and manually in bios too... Even was stable on IGP. 2266 no xmp I was able to run igp on 1.6v no probs but since I tested I knew I needed more than that and anytime I have tried IGP on anything with 1.65v it reboots at desktop load. 1.6v worked though.

I'll provide my thp very soon and you can use my XMP1 and put your timings in and try to see if it will load for you.

I'll try to see if I can use my 2266 timing from my spd table into XMP2 like xmp1 is.

Can you post you thp you needed for 12gb? I can try the 16gb for you and it would make sense if it loads to try your 12gb timing on 16gb

If you end up trying my xmp1 it needed 99.72 bios baseclock and 2266 was safe at 106.42 bios baseclock.

I'm settled on 2266 10-11-11-31 at 1.65v stable and just tightening the 6th timing now.

1 day I can save that thp for you. For now I'm just using the 10-11-11 on spd ext table not XMP.

 

yes, but how many gigs is that? the problems start at above 8 gigs. so if that's 16 gigs, then that's a keeper.....but if it wouldn't run 2133 higher than 8, then it's a lost cause

 

Sorry I see All of my above is 8gb. I will test that 16gb tonight for you. I personally may stick with that faster 8gig config but I'll be testing that 16gb tonight.
I'm not running 16gb at cl10 it won't happen I'm sure. I'll test CL13 2133 16gb if it works I'll make sure to get pics. Then I'll try CL12 for you but only if I get anywhere with cl13.

 

the clk is not so important at first as the getting it to work part. the faster the ram is running will still net better personal gains outside of benching.

i can test your xmp profiles to see if they work on my ram as well.

 

Okay got ya. Yeah I had been working in 8gb for awhile. I'll see if it works later. Were you testing any specific way? Should I attempt 16gb and run dell preboot assesment make sure ram passes then see if memtest throws an error in about 3passes as a quick test? Then play games see if stable (on discrete gpu that is). Is that fair enough for us to know? Let me know if I should test different for this. Yes timings and clock will be secondary I'll just try 16gb cL13 and if we get anywhere with that we will already be in good shape. I get it just make sure 16gb is even feasible at all. One thing that should be good is all 4 are same density and they are all samsung same model just different batch dates.

 

you only need to see if it will run first.

 

No go gives random bsod. What did you need in this custom timing to get 12gb working? I can try that otherwisejust using plug and play it's a no go.

Edit: if I try xmp again maybe I can set command rate... Maybe that would stabalize. Tried 1.55-1.65v CL13 jedec 2133 standard


Edit 2: there's the baeclock theory but not sure I can clock it up that hight from 1866. Like run 2133 timing on 1866 with huge baseclock to get to 2133 and using 16gb.

That thoery has been used and worked for someone here upto like 1990ish mhz on 16gb...

All I can think is to try what you made to make 12gb work. But for all I know it could just be that second pair on Samsung balking on me

 

does anyone know if Mushkin memory is overclockable?

they have new 30nm 8gb modules out now and i want to pick some up but i dont know if i can overclock

 

so 13cl and [email protected] was a no go on xmp?

more than likely...yes....

 

i just didnt know about muchkin i havent herd much about them and i know the g.skill memory im using right now is locked and i cant overclock it at all

 

well... you have a few ways to over clock ram...
the easiest being bclk'ing which is ram over clocking.
the next would be flashing the ram, which we have some chips to be hard locked, which take a different form of unlocking...one im not familiar with at the moment.

 

Does anyone know I can do overclocking on a laptop Lenovo?
Thaiphoon will work on Ivy Bridge?

 

Okay John I'll try XMP that was not on XMP but on plug and play. I'll try and I'll post the way I have xmp set and you can tell me if I should try anything from there or if it's a lost cause.

Meaker got 1960mhz baseclocking 1866 but I misread I thought that was on 16gb it was 8gb

 

our greatest problem would be that the bios wont run the xmp voltage above 1.50V. when you pnp run 2133 you set the voltage. but after a hard crash from over clocking, it resets the voltage back to stock. thus causing the laptop to not want to boot. then you have to pull one of the chips to have enough standard voltage to boot and reset voltage. i think this would need to be addressed to help improve on more ram and running standard 2133 mhz. it's why they may not endorse this yet....

 

That's not true on mine...
Xmp1 check one of my last posts on 2133 9-10-10-25 it's using XMP1 and working. If I set 99.7 for that one it's not a ful 2133 but it stable at 1.6v via bios and both those XMP voltages I had set to 1.6v in xmp editor. So it's working for that. That's on 8gb.

Just tested and I can't make a xmp 2 with cl13 yet on only 8gb. I don't have anymore time till later. If I can make another xmp for cl13 and load it on 8gb I'll then try 16gb. I had cl12 on xmp2 in one of those pics and that loads correct too. My only option is dig out a thp I had on that xmp2 on cl12 and add that xmp to my current sticks once again. Then when I see that xmp2 set correct I'll test further from there at 16gb.

So for me xmp is working on 1.6v in xmp editor in both those entries. So I'll get back to you tonight after more tinkering.

 

and after a failed over clock does it set the voltage back to 1.50V and your 2133 still boots or yours does not do this and it just stays at 1.6V

 

The part for me that doesn't happen to me is that in xmp I can use 1.6v in those profiles in the xmp editor xmp version newest so there are two volt options in the editor and both are set to 1.6v.

Btw for me if those xmp volts are set too low it doesn't work... If the bios is set to default volt option and I try XMP the volts aren't being read for me on XMP it fails as if it's not using the volt options from xmp so that's why no matter what I always still have to set volts manually in bios too. And strangely if I set volts in bios and the xmp profile don't match... Then it won't work right for me either. Not sure why seems system ignores on of the XMP volts and needs bios set manually yet if I set the xmp volts too low and bios is manally on the correct volts it's not working. Not sure why maybe you know why that is.

On the 8gb XMP1 2133 99.72 base 9-10-10-25 timing when I apply it, it keeps the voltage at 1.6v as soon as it's set and rebooted I check and most of the time it says 1.6v still. Sometimes it says default and I have to reset the volt to 1.6v. But that doesn't cause me probs from booting when it defaults to default ram in bios. Is that reset what you mean as to why it's not working good at 12-16gb?


Sorry that I didn't understand correctly above.

I can't test more till later I find that xmp I saved at cl12. That one used to load fine too.

I'd say I know my baseclock when adjusted throws a lot of those ram settings off and I have to reset them... But it still allows me to boot right away even when it had reset volts to stock 1.5v. For some reason I can boot any ram speed at stock volts to get to bios. It only causes issues for me if I go to boot windows, run memtest or dell preboot assesment while at the default 1.5v if it had reset on me.

My prob is I made a few cl13 on an xmp and can't for some reason get it to load even on my 8gb right now. So I'll dig that xmp that did work out and start this all over again tonight.

 

Someone have some number for the 8GB stick Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz Cas 10 ? Can they be pushed to 2133MHz too ?

 

so it's universal...xmp voltage is not working thus making our job harder...

 

Great thanks john you've clarified my confusion. I'll let you know when I test more if I can still get there but using manual voltage setting at same time as xmp for our 16gb project. Thanks again. I'll report back when I have more info.

 

what im not to sure is...if the qpi voltage is really working.

 

I agree and think it's not working or only working to 1.6v?

 

that or TB is not really setting the voltages at all....or they are locked and we think they are changing or working....quite a few variables in there....

 

what memory overclocking program is everyone using? i have intel xtu but it only lets me mess with the timings

my timings right now are: 7-7-7-16 tRFC-65

 

thaiphoon burner, but afaik u need to have the paid version (around 20 bucks) in order to be able to have write access

 

Is there a freeware program to overclock the RAM? I have 1333 Mhz memory and wonder if it can be reflashed to 1600 or 1833. 20$ for a program that I'll most probably use once looks like a bit of too much.

 

that's a big no. and i think you would use it a bit more than once. or just buy the higher ram...

 

ditto, I too am wondering if this is possible...

 

seems to be the question of the month it would be cool to see someone on 16gb-32gb 2133

 

It seems noone here has the 920XM. Only sandy bridge or higher. Can I go to 1600mhz + lower timings or only reduced timings at 1333mhz?

 

1600 + reduced timings most likely. PM me

 

Well been testing out my new ivy.

Single channel it's happy up to 2133 CL13 (intel burn test verified).

Wont boot with a second stick though, both cleared by themselves so I am very impressed with this kingston mem.

However I have got to work on my 1866mhz timings and they have passed at 10-10-10-32-1t.

I have no control other than the programming so this is at 1.5V, I think I need a little more IMC juice to hit the higher speeds.

 

Yeah need more juice! I got sammies at 2275 10-11-11-31 1.65v but not stable via stress test as i think that at 106.6+ baseclock the cpu cache are overclocked too high on L3 and the other caches. The 1.6v 2133 9-10-10-25 has been running good and that fkr me sems to pass stress tests too. The sammies are champs even at the 2275mhz just my other effected baseclock clocks hinder high baseclock and stable. So what settigs Meaker do you use to confirm stability on IBT? Id like to give that setting a try. Nice job Meaker seema Kingston and Samsung really do a great job.

 

Will thaiphoon burner work on 8gb modules too as well?

 

Thaiphoon certainly will which then it depends on iff the specific model ram can be written to ie... that there is no write protrction some can be worked around but its harder or impossible if ram is write protected.

 

I currently have Corsair 16gb 1600 kit (2x8)... Itching to try and update with 1866 SPD but at a lost to how to work the program... Anyone here feel like giving me some of their time? I can upload current stock saved SPD info if anyone wants to take a stab at it... Or if anyone can explain to me how the program works.... Which one do I use to edit? So many different ones...

Timing table editor?
XMP Editor???

Again, thanks in advance to anyone that can help me figure this...

 

Use timing table editor to edit plug and play like timkngs. Otherwise you can add xmp profiles if they are selectable in your computers bios. If you upload a thp copy and explaib your specific intentions im sure any of use can provide you the edited thp. Do you want just to flash them to be exact timing of corsair 1866 cl10 ram? Like 10-10-10

 

Yes, I would like to see if I can push it to Corsair 1866 CL10 ram. Its only rated at 1600 currently, wondering if I can push it a little higher.

 

Here is the ideal profile to flash on Corsair Vengeance 1600 4GB stick.
It will use specific timings specially calculated for this RAM to use it safely and without worrying. It also has 2 extreme profiles of 1866 to use it faster.

Give 8GB profiles and we will see.

P.S. I ask you people send me default and modded profiles to Samsung undervolted RAM and maybe other if you have some popular.
I will edit first post because it is time I guess.

 

hi guys, but for my mem corsair vengeance 1866... work at 2133? i have damaged my previus samusng with afterburner, hou please one people create for me profile with 2133 for my corsair?

 

You can try it i bought those corsair and they ran fine on 1866 but when i tested they seemed pushed to their limits already as anything i tried at all didnt give me a stable 2133 on them so they are stock for me right nkw sitting and collecting dust. I have my Samsung runnjng 2133 without a sweat i posted the model number in one of the threads like this and i pmd James with the model to. Id say have a back up and only flash one at a time and test... mine wouldnt do it but some may. They are fairly fast at their stock speed and timing too so its up to you.

 

I have 3 sticks all capable of 2133 but no combination of 2 sticks will run (even at looser timings), am i missing something?

 

You using plug and play or xmp? If it helps... i found. 2133 cl13-10 needing about 1.55v. Cl9 1.6v and 2275mhz at 10-11-11-31 @ 1.65v. Post you thp or a pic of the full timings your trying maybe one of us can see something that was missed.

 

Plug and play due to no XMP, standard 2133L and 2133M timings that none of the sticks have issues with in single channel (even with two sticks populating one channel).

 

try setting them for dual channel instead of single channel. this may or may not help. along with booting them at 1.65V....