[HowTo] SO-DIMMs Extreme: Boost 1600 to 2133 and beyond / JEDEC & XMP

Kingston keeping fiddling with their products to make them look better ..
Corsair NEVER made any metal stuff around their so-dimm RAM

the price is 5 pounds less

here u go .. just stickers

 

Corsair is not so far from it then. Stickers don't help heat spreading. It even make worse. It should be cooler to put them away but.... in this case you loose your warranty. Hmmm.

BTW. Price difference between Corsair 1600 and HyperX 1600 is 25-29$ in USA. Which is a lot!

 

in UK, about £10 difference between Vengeance 1600 and PnP HyperX 1600 sodimm but better timing.

Is PnP1600 Kingston HyperX CR 1T ?

I am really tempted to get the Corsair 1600...

 

Right on, $25-29 can get you another 4GB single stick of the Vengeance DDR3-1600 for 12GB asynchronous dual channel.

Edit:

Yeah from what I've seen the 8GB DDR3-1600 HyperX's are also 1T-CR but with looser slightly timings. If it's only 10 Euro dollars difference get what you like because the performance difference is not going to noticeable between the Vengeance and HyperX DDR3-1600's.

 

Well the MSI can force 1T or 2T

My current Hyper-X is 1T but I think it's the IMC setting 2T for 2 banks per channel.

 

I summrised all in 1-st post. So waiting for your AIDA benches.

 

Interesting, looks like there are no XMP profiles on the CMSX8GX3M2A1866C10, despite what it says on Corsair's page.

 

DUDE i just came here and spend my time to help you guys out with a problem, because this was the second thread on the board, where people tried to get the proper tables of this RAM.
I don`t even have an interest in the dump myself. If you don`t know the basics then that doesn`t make others "act like smartass PREMA!"
I was even saying sorry for asking a stupid question, because the software tells you to do that very thing on first start.
People are usally thanked and not insulted for helping in this forum.
Instead you make me feel bad for helping you.
Anyway, sorry if my post wasn`t clear enough!

He says it`s poor because it just has tables for 933 and 533Mhz. Usually they have tables for more speeds to boost compatibillity with more systems.

Here the Hyper X in comparison (see all the speed tables)
Its the one in the top right corner:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2561/timingsh.jpg

Still the CORSAIR Vengeance 933Mhz tables are much better than the the default PnP 1866Mhz Kingston Hyper X because of their tighter timings. They are on the edge to CL9!

Exactly! The same thing happens on the curent Clevos, there two banks will run in T1, but once we use all 4 the bios forces them into T2 command rate (for stabillity reasons, so they get less customer complains )

 

Samsung has already started mass producing 20nm DDR3 chips, they won't be available to manufacturers and till at least April, 2012 by then Hynix and Elpida will most likely also have their versions of 20nm DDR3 chips ready too.

There's a small chance Corsair could release better version Vengeance DDR-1600 CL8 and DDR-1866 CL9 and even DDR3-2133 CL10 in fall 2012 with 20nm chips if the first gen Vengeance sodimms do well.

Nothing from sources, just a probable guess.

 

I told you i dont have time to mess with these useless things you just measurin a munimum as been said in the beginning am not bothered about som 1T or 2T
I was triyng to do it fast and if somerhing nit working straight away I just bin it ..
James wanted screens I provided it to him
I have full head of learning internet protocol and subnetting right now (if u know what it is )

You mean individual screens benches?
Like this?

 

Just to make sure guys, are Corsair Vengeance XMP ready ? Which means I can bump my BLCK with it ?

 

They don't have any XMP profile, but you can integrate it into SPD by yourself if needed.

 

The ones I have are XMP 1.3 ready check my sig

 

No, I was asking Nemix to make same speed benchmark as you did. AIDA - Service Cache and Memory Test.

But because SPD profiles are really poor (meaning) that there are only 1066 and 1600 profiles and higher and no 1333 I would like to ask you to post screenshot of AIDA - Menu - Mtherboard - SPD. Where you also can see timings.
Thank you.

 

Language, people, language. Absolutely no cursing is allowed here, nor are attempts to bypass the filter.

 

As I can see, AIDA shows something inconceivable. It tells that the module is rated to DDR3-1800 (900MHz), but operates at 615MHz! LOL!

 

I'll post some AIDA64 benchmarks later on today, I was just taking a nap, eating and playing some RTS games (you know the normal things).

 

It seems that no one soft shows it properly cos it has been overclocked by those RAMs and all softwares are confused ... here is sandra the timings are
9-9-9 ?

 

AIDA64 SPD timings:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/aida64.png/

AIDA64 Benchmark:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/aidabench.png/

Windows Memory Benchmark:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/winsat.png/


PS:

I'm looking to upgrade to an i7-2620M from i5-2520M for $50 since I saved $50 on the Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 over DDR3-1866, I know most of you all will say it's not worth it but I think the 200Mhz higher Turbo, 1MB extra L3 cache and i7 sticker on the laptop makes for a better upgrade than getting DDR3-1866 over DDR3-1600 Vengeance; I'm not looking spending more than $50 on the CPU upgrade.

 

Sandra timings (bottom of the screen)



And this message i've got at the end of window (MB)
??
Is just some bloody FAKE around these 1886 RAMs ??

 

As Prema suggested, use TB instead of that software. TB is the only tool capable of interpreting DDR3 clocks and timings correctly.

 

Man if u look in thread properly u will see i already ran that soft hm..

I ran winsat mem and I had 24534 MB/s same as kingston 2x4GB 1866

 

Here is my video on how to improve SPD for Vengeance
Thaiphoon Burner - Corsair Vengines.mp4 - YouTube

 

1600mhz is the highest the IMC supports officially.

 

Thanks for all the info guys (and gals?). So anyone going to run an HD 3000 gaming benchmark, 3DMark Vantage and 11 with 1333 vs 1866? Would be greatly appreciated.

 

Yeah i can understand that but what happens when you put these 1866 mhz fsb will overclock unofficially? How come it is working ? does the ram freq will auto overclock even CPUs freq? system is unstable then?

 

Hmz I can't seem to get mine to run at 1866mhz, only 1600 9-8-8-24.

No GS2, if it OCed your base clock your system would crash past 104mhz (1664 DDR) its using a mem multi that intel includes but does not officially support.

For those of you interested:

 

What does it actually show meaker?

Do you still have the options to o/c the blck?

 

manufacturer is Micron

 

They are a stepping of micron d9 and yes you still get the options =)

 

I just ran 2 passes with Memtest86+ no errors, the memory shows as 798Mhz (DDR3-1596) 9-9-9-24 in Memtest86+.

Both BIOS and Memtest86+ reports 8136MB installed.

I have no BIOS options for memory timings on my laptop so I cannot tell you what the BIOS sees as the rams speed and timings.

I'm keeping the Vengeance DDR3-1600 based on what I've tested, looks good to me for the money.

 

Well I am running 16GB (4x4) at 1600mhz DDR 9-8-8-24 1t, just cant overclock at all to stay stable.

 

Very interesting

 

Yes but will it run at those speeds?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/570919-bored-need-hyperx-upgrade-2.html#post8245567

 

Yes but mine wont overclock 2% on top of 800mhz 9-8-8-24

 

what do you mean by overclock 2% ? 2% on blck (102mhz and not more) ? You got the Corsair 1600 ? How did you lower the timings lol

 

I got some of the corsair 1866mhz, I think my ES CPU does not like such a high speed.

 

Thee is no diff btw OEM and ES ..

 

Where did you get the Corsair 1866 from?

 

Sorry but LMAO. Especially talking about overclocking

 

There can be. ES, Engineering Sample, could behave differently with different timings and speeds for certain.

 

ccl in the uk. IIRC d0 -> d2 upped the imc capabilities.

 

Are you changing time tables or are you using them Out of the box?

If you dump one of them with Thaphoon Burner and send us the file just like GalaxySII...i could take a look.

If you can`t change the tables in bios or XTU i may change them for you with TP and you could write them back with SPDTool to see if we can get it to run @1866

 

Myne is identical to OEM and even my 2820
and even when i hat T9800 and X9100 all was identical
it just writen text in CPU ES they can edit titles to CPUs as they want

 

2860QM ES = D2
2720QM ES = D0

D2 is the same stepping as all retail chips. My chip has higher 8 thread turbo counts than even your chip and it has more cache than either of the 2720 or 2760. They can be very different.

 

How?
Can that be done to any ram?

EDIT: Nevermind, watched your vid.

 

If it is possible to write .tph to EEPROM using SPDTool then its cool.

But I couldn't read my DDR ram using taiphoon on old lappy. disabled driver signature and opened as admin. Can it be because of 2 different dimms inside? 1 KINGSTON 333Mhz 1gb AND NOTHER Crucial 1GB 400Mhz

 

Guys, I have just uploaded a new video tutorial on Vengeance SPD bug fixing. This explains how to add some extra info into SPD. Check it out Thaiphoon Burner - Corsair Vengeance #2.mp4 - YouTube