[HowTo] SO-DIMMs Extreme: Boost 1600 to 2133 and beyond / JEDEC & XMP

Guys, this is something new fro me. Is there any chance to flash my 1600Mhz CL9 G.Skill to 1333MHz CL7 for my AMD Llano?

 

Aye. No issue yet for me either.

 

I assume yes. it is possible.

download demo of taiphoon burner. and read and safe taiphoon burner profile. also click report button and at the end you will see timing table. check 667 Mhz if it exists.

 

Heavy day of video editing for me today, 6 hours and no issues at all!

 

Glad it did some good to dump them...

 

I checked and 667MHz is exist with 8 8 8 23 timing. However I want to run it in CL7 mode. Is not possible if CL7 does not exist in timing table?

 

I told you to create taiphoon burner's profile. save it to zip and attach it. I could do it now if I had it. But in couple hours I will be outside of home for 3 days again.

 

I made a custom XMP profile to the run the HyperX 1866 at 2133 but instead it runs at 1866 and 10-10-10-28 on my system, guess 2133 isn't supported. However it's pretty stable 1866 @ CL10 at 1.55v (max voltage supported in the documentation apparently)...

Here is the XMP, probs best for M17x R3 users: http://www.mediafire.com/?r1wd771xdyd3106

 

what cas did you try at 2133

 

All right I saved it you, whenever you have time do it! Thanks!

 

you need to be more around 13T then work your way backward...
and it needs to be done using a normal profile without editing xmp.

 

I was making the same observation that JDEC SPD table runs more stable at tighter timings than XMP, but how come?

 

if youre using the "additional voltage" tab to increase vdimm then thats probably why its not working. it has to only be done in the BIOS with "override memory" settings. you can go up to 1.65 with any so-dimms although i dont recommend it at all especially with a speed above 2ghz effective. maybe m17x does not have this setting?

 

Yes we do have that option in the bios exactly as you said. It is possible to edit timing there as well though i dont know how that work yet.

 

Zero989 and johnksss I've tried everything (flash the default and not XMP [CL 12-14], volts at 1.65v in bios) but it just runs at 1866 no matter what on the R3. So I have just settled for a stable 1866 @ 10-10-10-27 @ 1.55v.

Aye, thanks again. Without that .thp I wouldn't be running at 1866

 

there are certain "rules" that must be followed when creating a divider, that's probably where you're running into trouble.

in thaiphoon burner i figured out the ratio for the 2133mhz. i attached the file to this post. only flash the XMP profiles 1/2.

the 2nd is really tight and possibly too tight for hyperx ram. (its 9-10-9-xx) for 933mhz. the 1066mhz is 12-12-12-37. my ram wouldnt boot at all with 13-13-13-37. really oddd....

in other words i could ONLY boot with:

12-12-12-xx

and not :

13-13-13-xx

unlucky number 13

@long2905

the custom timing editor in alienware bios is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD LOL. whenever i edited timings to 11-11-11-35 it came out to 10-15-15-xx.

this was the same when i had my m17x with the QX9300 ES.

 

Upload me a stable timing and I will try it out, tenner a bet it will default to 1866. Same reason MSIs will default to 1600

 

ill give you a 13-13-13-xx but no promise that itll work

edit-- i should explain my situation

my ram has write-protection so i can only overclock my ram via XMP profiles

johnksss can write to his ram's spd and xmp

 

Upload something that works at 2133!

Upload your XMP profile then, you can save them as well. And I can import it

 

i already uploaded the profile in my last post that works for me at 2133. it is a modified version of gskill's sniperx XMP profile.



profile 1 is what im using right now with 1.55v in the bios
my old hyperx ram needed 1.55v just to be stable at 973mhz let alone 1066mhz.

their actual values are 1066Mhz and 933mhz.

the divider system automatically "rounds" to the highest nearest divider .

 

Couldn't even post with that XMP profile, kept reverting to the default spd

 

in your case...do not use xmp....

 

Nah, because then the system will not boot at all if I flash to SPD and I would need to put a 1333 stick in to flash back. XMP is the safest way of testing things

 

try my new attachment.

profile 1 XMP in bios, use 1.55 or 1.6v

edit-- just realized system command rate mode is at 3T.... crap! lolz. I don't even think I set that intentionally.

well he's saying you might need to use SPD because your ram might not play nice with XMP.

im not trying to make this difficult but your problem IS difficult until understood.

 

yes, considering im using hyperx memory just as he is...lol
and my 4 gb's are acting really stupid...they will not boot 2133 for nothing in the world...but i can push them up by bclking them...which is useless when you start running high multipliers...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

Bro, I tried and it doesn't work. The profile above gives me 4 beeps...

I've also tried 2133 (all default profiles on Thaiphoon) and they revert to 1866 on SPD/XMP.

 

your ram might just not be able to handle 2133mhz. it's hard to say.

not all profiles play nice with my ram. only some of them work. i just got lucky and found one that worked and extrapolated.

there might be more to XMP profiles than i know? i dont know...

anyway the profiles that worked are:

Gskil sniperx XMP

kingston 1600 9-9-9-x

 

I think the M17x R3 doesn't support it :/

 

we're we not listening brother geocake?

it looks like hyperx 4 gig chips will not run at 2133 mhz my friend...

i will keep working with them, but i can't get them to do it. my 2 gig hyperx chips and these dell samsung chips do it just fine.

edit:
and the bios has to have 2133 listed as an options
and you need a min of 1.55V

 

we need ivy bridge

confirmation that in most cases dell certified ram is higher grade than consumer hyperx 1600mhz/1866mhz ram ^_^???

 

I'd still take the hyperx because of the heatshields

 

exactly. these *cough* cheap *cough* memory chips run far better than the high priced ones. WTH!!!

The reason why i like kingston...because they are like 10 minutes from here and i can do an rma at the drop of a hat. same day service. but these 4 gig chips stink!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or im just not hip to the right formula yet.

Side note:
Our xmp profiles don't even use the same stuff as most normal ones either...which struck me as weird...

 

The PnP HyperX don't even have XMP profiles, they just rely on their SPD innit.

I'm sure they can run at 2133, just probably need some special way, lol

Or maybe something is stopping them from running at that speed...

 

that's what i noticed. it's why certain XMP profiles work with my RAM and others fail when they have the exact same settings.

plug-and-play might be to blame. kingston has created an overriding algorithm. i dont know what the hell it is or where its located. i dont know if it can only be modified by physical mods or software.

with that said, id stay away from PnP ram from now on. it seems to be talking directly to the cpu and only to the cpu... not the motherboard as well.

edit-

oh and im now researching benefits of bandwidth and core i7 in other areas of windows. ive noticed in games the gain is 2-4% depending on how fast the memory is (up to 2133).

i know there is more to it but i need to test apps...

 

as to pnp...that's why you need to do it the other way.

edit:

yes brother zero, system seems way snapper or i might just be wishing it...who knows...lol

 

yea... i know. i have confirmed this. i didnt believe it before because i had a SSD. how does one tell if windows is snappier with or without a ssd? hhhhha

i sold my old ssd (vertex 2). i can feel a difference. its awesome .

brother john

 

I can definitely do everything running at 2133. that includes benching/gaming and apps. all at 1.55V so it looks like we are on to something here. all for 22 bucks...haha

side note:
can these corsairs do this???

 

good question. someone to try? remember 1600 and 1866 have different chips.

 

corsair should be able to run at 2133. id be surprised if it didnt.

man i just wish i had a multiplier that worked at 2266/1133.

( anyone know how to modify this in an insyde h20 alienware bios

 

no formulas here...

 

i guess its all up alienware to code an official-overclocked speed of 2266 in a future bios. oh well... ivy bridge will get it, i dont know about sandy bridge.

 

They do, but most BIOS are not enabled to allow 2133 JEDEC even if present, except you force it:

Spoiler

They also run CL9@1866mhz:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/570919-bored-need-hyperx-upgrade-2.html#post8245567

 

mine do that. they need CL 10 though for beyond 940mhz though :9

 

Finally I'm at home. I will edit first post with new stuff. And will ask mods to rename thread.

What do you guys think about new name? Suggestions?

 

Hi
Yes rename it shorter DDR3 1600 / 1866 modding or sumfin like that there are more manuf. not just corsair ..
and please make detailed step by step procedure in first post how to get best performance from 1600s and 1866s RAMS in that soft. Thaiphoon
Thnx

 

Partial problem....You will need to buy the software...

 

It is not possible anymore ? somewhere cracked version?

 

I think I will just write a mini-guide of what does it mean 1600 RAM and why do people buy Corsair and HyperX. Maybe some little compare.
And also will tell what is possible to do with different kind of RAM.

It will take some time.

And we can't write about cracked software

 

I remember it was possible to downl. and use write .. few months ago.. and NOW ??? NOT ??