8GB DDR3 So-dimm module available when?

That is why you do that kind of stuff on a high end desktop and not your silly consumer grade laptops.

 

One item from the above search is a kit, but the other APPEARS to be a real single 8GB SODIMM:

ESSENTIALS 996647 DDR3 SODIMM PC3-10666 SODIMM 9-9-9-24 1.5V NONE 204p 8GB

It's not! I've posted again below to clarify, then edited this post.

The Mushkin 996647 is:
http://www.mushkin.com/Memory/Essentials/996647.aspx

A list of their memory (great for over-clocking too) is:
http://www.mushkin.com/Memory/Notebook-Memory.aspx

 

Nice find. just ordered 4 for my Elitebook.

 

Not really lol.. i have a G73 and come on.. it runs Matlab+ Pro Engineer Wildfire CS5+ Adobe Photoshop CS5+ Visual Studio smoothly..

Panther214

 

You work with what you've got. I still manage to compile and whatnot just fine, I just can't be playing video games at the same time.

 

My point was if you want a machine that can do Visual Studio, you build a machine specifically for it. I just don't like things that are half-assed.

 

I have been using a D830 for Visual Studio for 3 years and don't find any problem with that. It really depends on the solution type and size. And usually, a SSD helps more than more memory.

 

The programs aren't effected by it taking a few minutes longer lol the machine would be more than capable of doing it if I had 8GB of RAM considering that I compile just fine with 4GB.

Eventually I will upgrade to 8GB.

Desktops don't work with my lifestyle.

 

Hey crazycanuk,

That "ESSENTIALS 996647 DDR3 SODIMM PC3-10666 SODIMM 9-9-9-24 1.5V NONE 204p 8GB" that I saw connected to ZoomTek.com website. They used the wrong photo, it looks like an old SODIMM from something else, and I looked up the part number 996647 at Mushkin, it's 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-10666 9-9-9-24 Essentials (not even Timings of 7-7-7-20):

996647 - 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 SODIMM PC3-10666 9-9-9-24 Essentials (Dual Kit)

You can have that for $96.49 for each pair, I hope you didn't pay $303.93 for it at zoomtek.com. They didn't say anywhere that it is 2x4GB.

The list of Mushkin memory is here: (They are good and notable for over-clocking)

Notebook Memory - Mushkin Enhanced

 

Don't buy 4 of those! You'll get EIGHT great 4GB SODIMMs.

I quoted your post in hopes you'll see (from an email to you) my edit and extra post about:

 

I'm still waiting for ddr2 8gb sodimms. Somehow I don't think it's going to happen.

 

There is pretty much 0% chance of getting a single 8GB SODIMM in DDR2 since factories are ramping production down.

 

more like -100%... anyways , i doubt the PM45 chipset in hp can take more than 8GB and most likely even if it there , it would cost more than your notebook.. for that price , might as well buy a few new laptops.

Panther214

 

It seems that Samsung are actually outputting a few 8GB DDR3 SODIMM modules. See Samsung mass producing 8GB DDR3 SoDIMMs They don't seem to be very generally available. I confirmed that they can be configured in the Dell Online Store for the Dell Precision M6500 mobile workstation, at a sleek price of

• 32.0GB, DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM, 4 DIMMS [add $8,594.00]

So, if you really need them, buy an M6500, lift out the memory modules and give the rest of the computer to charity...

 

Yep! DDR2 development is now in the past!

 

I agree, you use what you got but in addition, it's not always about not having a desktop to use but being able to do some of your work on the go as I do as well.

Besides, the exact same can be said about high end gaming. If you really want top notch, get a big desktop.

I like knowing I can do my Adobe Editing work on my travels as well as some gaming for fun. It may be slower on a good gaming laptop but at least we can do it.

 

8GB Samsung sodimm m471b1g73bh0:

Laptop Memory points to
DiscountMicroSales.Com - M471B1G73BH0-CK0 - Samsung 8GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600MHz non-ECC Unbuffered CL11 204-Pin SoDimm Dual Rank Original Memory Module Mfr P/N M471B1G73BH0-CK0 - Samsung

>> - Samsung Electronics Co Ltd - Memory - Laptop Memory - Memory4Less.com

Let me know whether the goods get delivered properly

 

The price ($780) looks to be about right for what I was told that someone else got 8 GB SODIMMs for from an OEM supplier (in Hong Kong). Still not something the average person will bother getting though.

 

yea that is out landishly over priced....4 gig sticks are not that expensive. Now if you got the pockets and have a dire need for it cool but man is that a ton of money

 

And for those that would actually need to run renders or calculations that require 32 GB of RAM on the go, it would be worth it, because the kinds of applications that need that sort of power also pay really, really, well (think government, oil, movies). Of course, if you need that kind of power, you already know it, and have probably already paid for it.

 

Hopefully they come down in price by next July 2013 lol when I upgrade my laptop.

 

Ohhh right, memory controller on my CPU won't allow more than 8GB

oh well lol

 

The memory controller in the i5-520M will recognize up to 16 GB.

 

http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?itemid=1459944558&partno=M471B1G73BH0-CF8

now 627$ (presidents day)

 

Intel® Core? i5-520M Processor (3M Cache, 2.40 GHz)with SPEC Code(s)SLBNA, SLBNB, SLBU3

Says 8? Is that per channel?

If so... I'm gonna hold out for the 16GB.

 

That's "only" PC3-8500, though.

Not sure about per channel or not, but 16 GB has been tested (in an 8740w). Evidence here. And it wouldn't be the first time that the Intel ark site has been slightly off (for the longest time, and maybe even still now, there's been no evidence that Clarksfield accepts 32 GB of RAM... and yet it obviously does).

 

Awesome. Can't wait until the prices fall. When do you guys think they'll go down? When DDR5 is out?

 

Probably once Micron, Elpida, and the other RAM manufacturers start manufacturing their own 8 GB versions so there's competition. The thing is, I don't expect that to happen until we see more RAM hungry programs, since right now I doubt the market's big enough to make it worthwhile. Perhaps once 8 GB becomes the new shipped "standard".

 

Ah, true. At the moment 4GB seems to have become the standard. I know the new Macbooks will only be shipping with 4GB minimum and most PCs I see are 4GB minimum as well. 8GB extensions always cost a ton.

 

4GB kits are only $40-$45. 8GB kits can be had for as low as $75 but typically $80-$85. Core i7 mobile chips can only handle 8GB per channel anyhow and have two channels so 16GB is max. 4GB is more than adequate for most users, but for $40 more might as well get 8GB. But I don't see the need for most users to need more than 8GB. I only have 16GB because I have four slots, and am planning on running multiple VM's. Plus got the RAM total for less than $150.

 

Normal users don't need it... yet. I'd definitely love 16GB, I could make use of it.

 

They have all the different versions:

http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?itemid=1459944597&partno=M471B1G73BH0-CMA

Also elpida is getting into the game:
DDR3 SDRAM Module | Products | Elpida Memory

 

No, as clearly shown in my link above, Clarksfield (i7 quad) can handle 32 GB of RAM. I do agree that for most people, they won't need more than 4 GB, and that the price is very high to get an 8 GB SODIMM, but still, for certain applications, 32 GB is worth the cost.

True, but their cost for PC3-10600 is $900+. And the numbers for your most recent link are kinda odd.

 

First link 627.84 per stick, 32GB then would be 2,511.36. so the ram is more expensive than 99% of the latops that would use it...........

 

What link? Desktop procs can use up to 64GB.

All the laptop procs show 8GB per channel with 2 channels, so that's 16GB total. Even the flagship mobile proc can use maximum 16GB:

Intel® Core? i7-940XM Processor Extreme Edition (8M Cache, 2.13 GHz)with SPEC Code(s)SLBSC

 

The link in this post:

Specifically, I was talking about the 8740w, although the M6500 can also ship with 32 GB of RAM (the quad cores in both the M6500 and 8740w come with 4 slots on their motherboards). If you look at the link, you'll see that several of the quad cores were tested out in real life to POST and run with 32 GB of RAM, while the Arrandales would only POST and run with 16 GB of RAM (no matter which board). Hence my statement that Intel Ark is not always quite correct. I recall another case where it seems they had just copy/pasted some old information from another family of CPUs (I think it might have been a statement that Arrandales ran memory at 1333 MHz or something... it's been a while).

 

Something tells me the memory controllers themselves can handle more than 8GB sticks but right now it's limited due to actual availability of anything higher than 8GB. I do believe 8GB SO-DIMM is the absolute largest available right now.

For systems with 4 DIMM slots, 32GB is the current maximum (4x8GB). Windows/OS version also needs to be taken into consideration for systems equipped like this, you need to run 64-bit plus either Professional, Ultimate, or Enterprise editions of Windows Vista/7 (or any server variety) to use more than 16GB, which Home editions are limited to.

 

No, the limit for most systems is the BIOS and not the physical hardware.

 

32 GB for Clarksfield, yes. 16 GB only for Arrandale (even if 4 DIMM slots are available), unless there is some extra code in the BIOS of the 8740w that would specifically limit an Arrandale as opposed to a Clarksfield, which I would find unlikely. I don't know if we have any clue for Sandy Bridge yet, although I'd assume at least 32 GB for Sandy Bridge quad-core, too. Note that this is just what the system will POST with, long before we get to any OS limitations.

 

Judicator:
I would be a bit careful about drawing definite conclusions about arrandale.

For one combination of bios/mainboard/ram you are correct:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-hp-elitebook-8740w-owners-lounge-new-64.html

We don't know for M471B1G73 BH0 chips or other systems. I'm also indeed curious about sandy bridge.

 

Well, I'm perfectly willing to be corrected, but I doubt many others, if any, have the resources and/or time to do the testing Siorah did. And, as pointed out earlier, I very much doubt that HP would put a block on 32 GB of RAM just for Arrandales, while allowing Clarksfield to do so. That would be extra coding required on their part for little, if any, gain. I suppose it could be the chipset, but the Dell M6500, which also has 4 DIMM slots (for quad-core, dual-core only has 2 DIMM slots like the 8740w), is based on the PM55 chipset, and havoctex (a Dell employee) has stated that an Arrandale in the M6500 will only recognize 2 DIMM slots (which would actually be worse than the 8740w, which would recognize all 4, but only for 16 GB or less total). I believe the Lenovo W701 (and W701ds) are the only other notebooks that have 4 DIMM slots, and I have no information on their memory capacities.

 

But it won't be 16:10! And besides, that's a downright cheap upgrade, considering it's a Sandy Bridge Mac.

 

It was intended as a joke, which was why I was making the smilies. And actually, considering that even retail prices for 8 GB SODIMMs cost around $750-$800 each per stick, that's actually an almost reasonable cost for an upgrade from a manufacturer, especially Apple (which is somewhat known for overpricing upgrades), since most manufacturers impose a rather significant surcharge for doing it for you (like the $8000-$9000 upgrade price for 4x 8 GB SODIMMs in a M6500 or 8740w). And I personally own an 8740w. Haven't bothered with the 8 GB sticks, though, since unlike some of the other owners, I'm not running DBs, VMs, or CAD work.

 

Well I guess I could ask this but for gaming will having 8 GB of ram make any difference from a 4 GB? Or if play games, listen to music, watch youtube, watch DVDs, etc you don't need 6 GB or 8 GB? It seems like people who photo or movie edit needs 8 GB or more but for people who play games like Crysis, Crysis 2, The Sims 3, StarCraft 2, etc will you need more than 4 GB?


Thanks

 

I was wondering that in a year or two will games need more than 4 GB to play. Also for the games I listed will having more than 4 GB run the games better?

 

Unless you plan to run all of those programs you listed at the same time, then no, 4 GB of RAM is plenty. In a year or two is harder to say, but 4 GB should still be adequate then, if maybe getting to be a little on the lower side.

 

It's also the fact that games don't really NEED a lot of RAM. The Video card handles pretty much everything.

 

8gb sodimms:

Samsung 16GB (8GGx2) DDR3 1333MHz PC3-10600 SODIMM - Your Mac Store

Don't know the exact samsung item number of this.

They seem to be the cheapest now.

 

I look up samsung's ddr3 line up. In ddr3 40nm section there's 8GB module - I google the item number.
Then I got this BuySamsungParts.Com - M471B1G73AH0-YH9 - Samsung 8GB PC3-10600 DDR3-1333MHz non-ECC Unbuffered CL9 204-Pin SoDimm Dual Rank Original Memory Module Mfr P/N M471B1G73AH0-YH9 - Samsung

 

Broken link; pls revise.

These are still out there, although they were ~$600 a while ago, vs $700+ today:

Memory > Laptop Memory > Samsung Electronics Co Ltd M471B1G73BH0-CF8 - Samsung 8GB PC3-8500 DDR3-1066MHz non-ECC Unbuffered CL7 204-Pin SoDimm Dual Rank Original Memory Module Mfr P/N M471B1G73BH0-CF8