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    8GB DDR3 So-dimm module available when?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by AndrewKW, Feb 22, 2010.

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    Wowsers.

    I haven't seen RAM prices that high since...um...never? Not since I've been buying computers, anyway.

    Maybe this explains why the 8 GB SODIMMS aren't more widely offered: no one can afford them! I think I'll stick with the measly 8 GB RAM (2x4 GB SODIMMs) in my current laptop.
     
    CoreEye5, Aug 17, 2011
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    I don't know anything about Mac 'puters; been stuck in Windows land forever.

    Can anyone confirm/deny for sure whether these memory sticks would work in a non-Mac 'puter? Seems to me they're the same spec as what's found in common laptops today, such as the Lenovo & HP stuff.

    That Mac store seems to have better pricing that I've found for any Windows laptops.
     
    AMATX, Aug 19, 2011
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    if you have to ask, then you don't need them :rolleyes: the 4gb sticks for $20 is plenty for 99% of the population....
     
    whitrzac, Aug 19, 2011
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    Wouldn't it simply be cheaper to just produce motherboards with 4 slots?... then you could have 32GB! =p
     
    Hungry Man, Aug 19, 2011
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    I'm in the 1% who need more than what you're assuming.

    So, back to the question: anyone know for sure whether or not these 8g sticks sold on the Mac website will work on Lenovo laptops? Seems specs are the same, but that's not necessarily enough.
     
    AMATX, Aug 20, 2011
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    Why would one want 16GB on a laptop for this kind of price ?
     
    chimpanzee, Aug 20, 2011
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    should work as long as it's sandy bridge based.
     
    dalamchops, Aug 20, 2011
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    Simple - number of memory slots limits max memory. Until recently, many laptops had only two slots; therefore, an 8g limit with 4g sticks. If you need the additional memory, there's a big diff between 8g vs. 16g. Not cheap, but does make it doable.

    I was looking at upgrading a Lenovo W700 from 8g to 16g, but am holding off a bit, as I may end up getting a W520, of which the quadcore models have four slots. However, I could really use > 16g, so if/when the W520 arrives, I may throw in either two or four 8g sticks, getting me to 24g or 32g.

    I use a ramdisk and would like to greatly expand it...
     
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    What application that needs 16GB memory, especially on a notebook ?
     
    chimpanzee, Aug 20, 2011
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    RAMDisk can make use of up to 32GB.
     
    grimreefer1967, Aug 20, 2011
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    What would such a size of RAMDISK be used for ?
     
    chimpanzee, Aug 20, 2011
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    What could it not be used for? :D

    I know I could use it for manipulating Blu-rays a lot easier/quicker, but I wouldn't spend huge $$$ on extra RAM modules do do it.
     
    grimreefer1967, Aug 20, 2011
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    That is why I ask, specifically for notebook. If that is what you want(lots of RAM and processing power), get a desktop where you get cheap RAM with double the slots and faster CPU/GPU.

    Well unless people enjoy manipulating Bluray in Starbucks and feel the need for speed.
     
    chimpanzee, Aug 20, 2011
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    And for those of us who don't want to drag a desktop around the planet all the time. I've maxxed out my lowly 8GB of RAM several times while batch converting video.
     
    grimreefer1967, Aug 20, 2011
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    It's not about what program you use that needs 16GB of RAM =p it's about what programS
     
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    program or program(s) doesn't matter. I am just curious from the perspective of a notebook.

    Say batch video conversion, does it mean I have to first load up a batch of bluray image on to a notebook then go to starbuck and do the conversion there then realize I need more memory ? Or carry a batch of bluray disks with me ?
     
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    Batch converting video I already have ripped to my hard drive. Load up more than 1 file in que and begin converting one after the other or load up and convert simultaneously...or straight from bd-rom.

    This is the only thing I've done personally that has used every bit of RAM i have.


    edit - And what's the fascination with Starbucks and laptops? Are you "that guy"?
     
    grimreefer1967, Aug 20, 2011
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    I just randomly pick starbucks. To put it into question form:

    WHERE AND WHEN would a person need a 16GB video editing moible workstation to process full length blueray size video ?
     
    chimpanzee, Aug 21, 2011
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    Exactly. I have an app that does LOTS of heavy duty I/O and uses LOTS of disk space.

    Ramdisk = super fast with no wear and tear on a HD or SSD.

    Btw, prices are comin' down a bit...finally...


    NEW ELPIDA 8GB 1x8GB DDR3 SO-DIMM SINGLE LAPTOP MEMORY | eBay


    And, for those wanting 'officially' branded 1x8 sticks, here's a listing for Samsung:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-8GB...028?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0908b82c

    -almost- within temptation range now, folks :)
     
    AMATX, Aug 21, 2011
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    i travel very frequently between england, malaysia,dubai and singapore. Usually spend between 1-3 months per location. there is no way i can have a desktop, just to inconvenient. so i use my dell precision as a proper desktop replacement. if i had a quad core processor i would definitely go with 16gb of ram.

    my m4400 died and dell gave me an m4600 so it kinda screwed up my upgrade schedule. i would have upgraded to a quad core 17" machine by now if i hadnt got this replacement from dell

    so while it may not be for doing serious work at starbucks etc, i suppose you can still say its on the road in a way. i use my thinkpad ultraportable for writing in the park etc.
     
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    I used to compile PCSX2 and Dolphin. Having a large RAMDisk would definitely help with that. And it used almost all of my 4GB when I did do it.
     
    Hungry Man, Aug 21, 2011
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  27. grimreefer1967

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    Okay...

    And I can only give you an answer as to why I would need/want a mobile workstation for that very thing. When I wrote that I'm not going to drag a desktop around the planet I was being literal. I'm a merchant marine and constantly on the move so a laptop is pretty much required. Our ships do not provide an internet connection for our personal computers so when we hit port we have to go ashore somewhere to find one. A desktop will just not do and I am constantly ripping, converting and compressing video for myself and other crew members. The more RAM the merrier... and RAMDisk is for more than just video editing, but that's my main use for it.
     
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    Do your task frequently need 8G+ and is so speed critical that it must be RAM ?

    At the current price of that 8G module(16G for 1000?), it seems to be much wiser to just get a fast SSD and turn on page file.

    I would say go to 8G given today's price but 1000 for the extra seems a bit extreme.
     
    chimpanzee, Aug 21, 2011
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    agreed- the price is too high which is why i have 8gb total. if you have a precision like mine, you can have 16gb fairly cheap....4x4gb

    but if you're using it for work, in cases where the software on the laptop can easily be more expensive than the laptop itself, it would probably be justifiable on the productivity gains

    there is also the fact that 800 bucks for 2 sticks of 8gb ram might not be that much money to some people.
     
    afhstingray, Aug 21, 2011
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    I used to compile daily and the 8GB would have significantly sped up the process.

    But I compiled it mostly for fun -- I would not be willing to spend such incredible amounts of money on 16GB for my needs especially since I no longer compile anything nearly as huge as PCSX2/ Dolphin.
     
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    Why I started out for concrete example of tasks that NEED 8GB+ RAM on a notebook which cannot be kind of substituted with slower 'page file on SSD'.

    Sure there are people who have money to spend just for the sake for spending it, which is not what I am interested in.
     
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    We're almost there... probably be in the 200's after Xmas.
     
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    If you really need 16GB in a laptop with two memory slots, buy a laptop with four. If you really need 32GB in a laptop with four memory slots, buy a desktop.
     
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    Late to the party, but 32GB in a laptop is handy for us who dont game and need ram for CAD, engineering, rendering, video editing and in some cases photo editing.

    as for having a desktop with 32 GB nah, sorry dont want to downgrade that much. believe it or not id love a portable workstation with 64GB.
     
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    haha 64GB RAM? :) what about 128?
    what win 7 can take up to ?
     
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    @KCETech1
    Hi
    I just received and installed 8GB Kingston DDR3 RAM PnP 1866MHz
    and they are really fast !
    You DO NOT need quantity but quality/performance
     
    iEthos, Sep 8, 2011
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    depends on what your doing, for me I need quantity. fast ram tends to be better for benchmarking and for integrated graphics. for me I need quantity as some of my apps will HAPPILY eat 24-150GB of ram

    another trick with quantity is running applications inside of a ramdisk ( makes apps run about 50 times faster than an SSD )

    a small example, if I am going to be working in photoshop I make my scratch disk in RAM and not on the HDD. with a 16 GB ramdisk for photoshop to play in I can almost quadruple my speed in P.S. if I allocate 64-100 GB on my desktop I can speed up video renders by a couple hundred percent as well.
     
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    150GB... of RAM?
     
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    yes AVID, Maya and Mudbox will eat over 150GB if you let them. Photoshop will utilize around 100GB. AutoCAD will eat as much as you can give it.

    its OT but applications like that tend to like desktops made with server boards and 128-256GB of RAM
     
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    They're really coming down.

    By the time I buy a new computer 8GB sticks should be 50 dollars haha
     
    Hungry Man, Sep 9, 2011
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    I remember when 2x4GB was $500 but even DDR2
     
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    Is it true that the i7-2730QM is required for 32gb =4x8gb sodimm support, and that i7-2630QM does not work?
     
    jmv2009, Oct 10, 2011
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    cant see it, I run a 940XM in my elitebook and now 16 gb in my X220 none of which have a 2730
     
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    Yeah, I remember our CATIA workstations would have like 24GB to 32GB RAM and the designers wanted MORE. I was like :eek:

    In any case i7-2630QM and i7-2720QM should work fine with 32GB RAM as long as the memory controller can handle it.
     
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