AMD Finally outs new CPUs!!

I ordered an HP DV7 with an M520. If this deal goes trough i'll benchmark it and post my opinions.

 

Let us know about it.
I am really interested in knowing how these will stack up against Intel in real-life usage.

 

Which are the main companies that use AMD CPUs in their notebooks?

Is it just HP-Compaq, Toshiba and Gateway?

 

Also Fujitsu, MSI, ASUS, and Acer(not just Gateway).

 

When the second gen 45nm CPUs are out, will they be compatible with the current laptops? Would it be better to just wait? I'm personally hoping for better battery life.

 

If this goes as AMD is playing it, it is possible.
But I would say the next gen would be more compatible with this current gen.

 

Is it going to be around H2 2010, or more like Q3/Q4 2010 that they will be released?

 

for the time being, this is what we know so far...

sorry I cant help you any more...

 

Maybe, but probably they will make the jump to a DDR3-only architecture.

 

Why arent any tests/benchmarks beside that on some german site?:/

 

DDR3 support in the next architecture.



More at:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/17945

 

Llano desktop quad core:



Mobile should look similar.

Also, Bobcat and Bulldozer news.

 

I hope they release a bulldozer variant for the mobile in future. That should be an impressive cpu. Must say AMD's version of hyperthreading is much superior to current intel implementation.

 

Erm...Since when does AMD have hyperthreading?
Your statement seems to imply AMD Processor already have hyperthreading.
Anyway from the way Intel is pushing out their CPUS AMD's future seems bleak.

 

If you click on the link for the bulldozer cpu, and read there you can see that AMD is adding hyperthreading support.
Cant wait until this gets released.

Taken from the site regarding hyperthreading:
A single Bulldozer core will appear to the OS as two cores, just like a Hyper Threaded Core i7. The difference is that AMD is duplicating more hardware in enabling per-core multithreading. The integer resources are all doubled, including the schedulers and d-caches. It’s only the FP resources that are shared between the threads. The benefit is you get much better multithreaded integer performance, the downside is a larger core.

And heres some info about their Cpu and gpu integration:
Doubling the integer resources but not the FP resources works even better when you look at AMD’s whole motivation behind Fusion. Much heavy FP work is expected to be moved to the GPU anyway, there’s little sense in duplicating FP hardware on the Bulldozer core when it will eventually have a fully capable GPU sitting on the same piece of silicon. While the first incarnation of Bulldozer, the Zambezi CPU, won't have an on-die GPU, presumably future APUs will use the new core. In those designs the Bulldozer cores and the GPU will most likely even share the L3 cache. It’s really a very elegant design and the basis for what AMD, Intel and NVIDIA have been talking about for years now. The CPU will do what it does best while the GPU does what it is good at.

 

Dang Jayayess1190 you always seem to beat me when searching for news...lol


My contribution

AMD Teases 2010 and 2011 CPU Roadmaps

AMD notebook CPU, mainboard roadmap revealed

 

Q4 2010/Q1 2011 should be awesome with Sandy bridge and Fusion quad cores with graphics on die. SB will destroy fusion on cpu related benchmarks as llano will have phenom II based cpu but fusion should destroy SB graphics for sure. I cant see intel improving its integrated gfx to compete with ATI in such a short time.

 

Just fyi, for people that have not seen it yet, PassMark has some of the new Turion II's listed. The highest one they have listed is the M640 @ 2.6GHz and it falls between the P8400 @ 2.26GHz and P8600 @ 2.4GHz. I am actually kind of disappointed as that is not even a huge performance difference over the ZM series. At least the II's run cooler, I guess.

 

Unfortunately, there is Larrabee...which intends to compete with NVIDIA and ATI high-end GPUs. But as far as Intel goes, their IGPs normally are crap-ish compared to DAAMIT's and the green goblin's ones.


On other news, check out this http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5513152#post5513152

 

I have had no temperature problems with mine M520 in DV7-3020sa but i didn't pushed it. Right now it is not even warm.

Results for Cinebench R10: CPU score 2446(unicore),4701(dualcore), OpenGL:3762(ATI Radeon HD4530)


Notebookcheck strangely gives much different numbers: Unicore:1930 Dualcore:3185

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html


Edit: CPU is at 39-41ºC with room temperature of 19ºC.

 

Fudzilla is reporting Bobcat will be built using a 40nm GPU die size and will feature a DX11 RV800 series IGP. [Link]

Would be a pretty cool move if they jumped from 65nm to 40nm...not as great as Intel's 32nm but it's still that much better than 45nm. Bad side would be if they had to use TSMC for 40nm fab though.

 

amd used to have it, but they have now lost it...
just check out the hp dm3z and dm3t...
the intel gets waayy more battery life and it outperforms it..
sad part it they run for the same price

 

Doesn't the dm3z start $70 cheaper?

 

I have Turion II M520 too in my HP Probook 6545b and i have much lower results in Cinebench R10:



I suppose in your noteook GPU is helping CPU in rendering(one of AMD people advertised this on his blog when tigris was officially announced).

And how come you have so low temps, a lot better than I in 6545b(and you have non-buisness notebook :/) I have temps in idle like that:

 

I contacted notebookcheck and i have found that their data seems to have been made in 32bits test while i have made mine in Cinebench 64bits. Even then my 32bits test showed a much bigger value with all cores. So they probably made a error or a typo since a dual core should show much better improvement.
So my results for 32bits Cinebench in Windows7 64bits were 1964 and 3765.
My GPU doesn't help Cinebench at all.

My DV7 temperatures typically for casual use: visiting web pages etc
around 50ºC for CPU and 44ºC for GPU. Room temperature around 20-22ºC.

I have now usually higher temps because i changed the bios to only use the CPU fans when it gets hot and not permanently. So idle temps now don't go much lower now than around 45-47ºC.
I also think being a 17" with a bigger case also helps.

Note: i can't see what your images show images they are too tiny.Some failure in linking.

 

Perhaps you could fix the links, as they do not work.

 

Just remove .th from their URL ;-)

 

screens fixed

ok you have similar results now, you didn't write that you are using 64 bit system and i hadn't tought that differences in rendering between 32 and 64 bit systems are so significant.

 

Yep, at time i didn't know that difference too. Mine still faster 24 and 64

 

As a little update:

Geneva 2010 uses 15W

 

Nsnt
No Sample No Talk

 

Fusion, the first AMD using USB 3.0

 

Ultrathin Fusion CPU is Dual-Core

 

2011 is when Intel releases Ivy Bridge, aka quad cores taking over dual cores as mainstream...

 

AMD stocks hit 52-week high

In recent years AMD has faced some tough and turbulent times, but recently the chipmaker has managed to regain a foothold in the CPU market and outpace Nvidia in GPU development.

During yesterday's trading AMD stocks hit $9.08, but closed at $8.90. In the golden days of late 2005 AMD was trading at over $40 per share, but over the next couple of years the stock tumbled and in late 2008, just before the recession reared its ugly head, the company was trading at about $13.

Although stocks are still not back to pre-recession levels, bear in mind that AMD was trading at barely over $2 in January 2009, so smart investors could have earned well over 400 percent in just under a year. AMD hopes to report a profit or break even in the next couple of quarters, following several consecutive quarters in the red.

Speaking of investors, the numbers come as a rather nice Christmas gift, not that Dubai-based investors care about it.

 

Nice to know that intel is gonna have some competiton but with the current Core i7 and upcomming core i7, AMD's prospects in the CPU world look bleak.. although the ATI side is doing well, both will have to do so if AMD is to beat intel in the long term..

 

I think in this thread someone mentioned that 2011-2012 AMD should be reaching Intel

 

I tried really hard but could not find reviews or benchmarks on Turion II. Can someone post them.

With Bulldozer AMD is taking a big chance by replicating integer resources to enable multi-threading. Replicating integer resources adds to the die space significantly compared to Intel's version of Hyper-Threading. They are making a bet by then a lot of the Floating Point would be offloaded to the graphics processor and the CPU will mainly handle Integer loads. Atleast thats what i got from the 2-3 articles i real about Bulldozer.

AMD cannot afford to be wrong with Bulldozer!!!

Does AMD have something like TurboSpeed(or whatever it's called) wherein they crank up clock speeds when cores are disabled on their roadmap? This seems like a very useful feature.

 

They have HyperTransport to speed the info...something Intel has not done yet...

The multi-threaded core from AMD looks more promising than Intel's using dedicated hardware

 

That's HyperTransport, not HyperThreading. I know, it's confusing.

Intel does have QPI, which kind of competes with HyperTransport, but that's only used on the big LGA-1366 i7s.

 

Thanks...sorry, the habit of HyperThreading. You know I though if HyperTransport but spelled it "incorrectly"...^^ let me fix that

 

Just found some new info. xD

Looking forward to see some benchies of the new cpus and also nice to hear that it will include ATI Mobility HD 5000 cards.

 

Tri core and quad cores with 25W TDP??? WOW!!

 

I thought you should be more enthusiastic about the 128bit FPU instead.
I remember people getting a big hooha over the 128bit Windows...
Now we have a 128bit FPU (the real deal) and all I hear is comments about the TDP?

 

Nice, I didnt notice that...

 

Anyway to add on for those interested in AMD Mobile Processor laptop, only the M500 and M600 (Turion II and Turion II Ultra) contains the 128bit CPUs (Really FPU only we don't call it 128bit CPU still 64bit).
The M300 Athlon II still retains the old 64bit FPU.

 

Whats the gain of the 128bit in real life?

 

Floating Point Units are for multimedia, therefore you just get FPUS with greater precision with 128bit.

Make sense for AMD to throw it in to create their "AMD Vision".

 

Any of those compatible with my socket that has M520 Turion II?

Okay i see they are not compatible...well just nixes any upgradability of this notebook except an SSD.

 

Maybe you can sell the Tigris based notebook once the new Danube hits the market? xD