AMD Fusion Info Thread

It's going to be a long 2 months for me.

 

AMD Codename Decoder – November 9, 2010

Some codenames for the next gen 2012 APU parts are listed:

 

I hate AMD being so far behind Intel because that means Intel can just trickle the new technologies it (already) has to us.

 

That's nothing new, and Intel isn't the only company that pulls that kind of crap.

 

What?! Bulldozer finally for notebooks! Hot.

 

I think you'll need more substantial info before you can start a Forget Llano, Trinity on the Way thread.

 

lol...

 

I can't wait until AMD names a new processor "Vishnu". With a name like that it must be the destroyer of worlds... (Intel and Nvidia). Not much longer now, I hope. At any rate I'll be looking forward to Bulldozer in 2H 2011, and Bobcat soon!

 

This enough?

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9Njk3NTF8Q2hpbGRJRD0tMXxUeXBlPTM=&t=1


p26: Trinity is 2-4 Core 32nm Bulldozer APU. Krishna & Wichita are 1-4 "enhanced" Bobcat cores on 28nm.


EDIT: Llano back on track?

http://blogs.pcmag.com/miller/2010/11/amds_future_of_fusion.php

 

AMD begins shipping Brazos, announces Bulldozer-based APUs - The Tech Report

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First fusion benchmarks:

Dailytech
Hexus
Hot Hardware
More links at Engadget

 

Err... on a track, maybe, certainly not the original track. They've basically confirmed the rumored delay. Volume production in Q2 means that there's simply no way we'll see notebooks before Q3 (they still have to ship them and then the machines must be assembled). If they're really fast, they'll make it before the back-to-school season, but it can easily slip beyond that.

 

Engadget: Acer debuts 10.1-inch Windows 7 tablet: AMD Bobcat-powered, inbuilt 3G, coming February 2011


Also: AMD's Llano has a breakthrough

 

AMD Has No Plans to Intro Brand-Names for "Ontario" and "Zacate" Hybrid Chips.

 

AMD Talks Fusion: Technology, Software, Strategy

 

Acer Aspire One 522 with AMD Fusion

• 1GHz Dual Core AMD C-50 APU
• AMD Radeon 6250
• 10.1 1280x720 screen
• 6 hour battery life

 

If it gets a realistic 6 hours that will be impressive, but if it only gets like 4, I am quite unimpressed... What do you guys think?

 

Only 6 hours? That's pretty disappointing considering that this is Ontario and not Zacate (i.e. the CPU performance will be much closer to Atom).

 

I agree. I was expecting more. They still have an uphill battle against the Atom if it can't get any better than this. At least the screen isn't 1024x600.

 

Puke green. Yuck. They really should have picked a better color IMHO.

 

At least if you buy it, you don't have to worry about people trying to steal it.

 

Is AMD Fusion going to be available right after CES?

 

SemiAccurate :: MSI shows off its first Brazos systems

 

A 12-inch laptop with a 3-cell battery? :/ Am I the only one getting the feeling that OEMs are just using Brazos for cheap computers and don't even care abut giving them good battery life?

 

U270 will have an option for a 6-cell like the U250 and should also be compatible with a 9-cell you can get aftermarket.

 

The problem with a really cheap processor like Brazos is that instead of using the money saved on the processor to make better overall machine, what the manufacturers tend to do is try to save money on everything and sell it for as little as possible which typically means that the machine is garbage even though the performance of the processor is reasonable given its price. They can't do that with a $200 CPU because that processor alone takes the machine out of the "as cheap as possible" price range.

That said, I'm sure not every manufacturer will do that. We'll see some decent Fusion machines yet.

 

I understand that they have to be cheap since they're competing against Atom netbooks, but is a 6-cell battery with a decent capacity too much to ask?

 

The profit margins on cheapo machines are already nothing, adding a decent capacity 6 cell battery is adding insult to injury. Besides doesn't beat my Latitude 13 6 cell battery with only 30 WHr though the battery weighs like 8 ounces and is like 4-5mm thick..

And people wonder why machines are going to 16:9 screens and why various cheap computers components fail..

 

Let's wait for reviews.

 

Toshiba NB550D

• 1GHz AMD C-50
• 10" screen
• 250GB HDD
• 1GB DDR3

 

Ugh, I wish AMD would do something about OEMs sticking their chips in ugly designs. I hope HP and Lenovo's offerings are better...

 

AMD readies next-generation (2012) netbook/tablet PC platform

 

That slide was page 26 of the PDF I posted last month.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...02-amd-fusion-info-thread-11.html#post6873314

 

Is that a 4:3 LCD? Sure looks like one...

 

Nope, just giant bezels.

 

It seems a laptop design from 8 years ago.

 

Hm. Ok, although unless the perspective is throwing me off, there have to be "black bars" across the top and bottom of what looks like LCD glass or something.

 

If you've got photoshop screw with the image's contrast/brighness. The top bezel is gianormous.

 

Oh, no, I can clearly see the large bezel, especially the tall top one. I was "measuring" off the "glass" portion within the bezel. Basically, unless the keys are a lot wider than usual, you can tell about how wide the screen should be, especially since it has particularly narrow keys on the left and right sides, and the screen looks to reach from about the QWERTY row of the keyboard to maybe the middle of the touchpad/tops of what looks like speakers on the palm rest. As I said, though, the perspective could be throwing me off.

 

Rumour: AMD to revive "FX" branding with Bulldozer by VR-Zone.com

 

here's another Google Translate

kinda scary when the pre-release rumor mill is only making as audacious of claims as "will be on par with current 45nm intel processes" and is using marketing images from the mid 80s

 

Where do you see that?

 

Asus prepares 12-inch slate for CES 2011

This makes me really excited about a Fusion (bobcat?) based one.
I will happily give them my money, if it is bobcat based, we will have more battery life, good performance, and an Ipad like toy that will happily run win 7 and it's apps. Just wow

 

it kinda looks like they are saying they expect it will compete with gulftown but probably not with sandy bridge -- which is weird because sandy bridge is the slower/smaller of the two; gulftown is the xeon class 32nm and SB is the mainstream chips. FX is also expressly billed as sub xeon class.

I think they are trying to say that Bulldozer will compete with what intel is now replacing with 32nm gulftown -- which are the older 45nm xeon chips.

the relevant section from Bing's translator:

If you read the original vietnamese in the article, there are the same pragmatic and grammatical errors in the source.

 

Isn't Gulftown the current 32nm 6-core desktop CPU?

 

It is saying that Bulldozer will compete with Gulftown and Bloomfield, which is good because as you say those will still be Intel's top CPU after Sandy Bridge's launch. Bulldozer won't start competing with Intel's mainstream parts until the cores are ported down to APU that will replace Llano.

The reason why the return of the FX label has some excited is because it was AMD's "Extreme Edition" brand back when AMD was able to compete with more than just lower prices.

The belief is, if AMD is going to try and sell an expensive chip, it's going to have to be a fast chip.

 

And, finally, I present a Fusion notebook which doesn't look like a total piece of crap.

HP shows its Pavilion dm1 notebook

 

Lenovo S205

11.6"
AMD Fusion E-350
UP to AMD Radeon 6310
Up to 8GB DDR3 Ram
Up to 750GB HDD

 

Lenovo x120e doesn't look like crap.

 

Okay, so now we have three. Yay!