AMD's Ryzen CPUs (Ryzen/TR/Epyc) & Vega/Polaris/Navi GPUs

I get CB R15 at 3463 as it is now @4.000 GHz, about the same as before. Have not altered the SOC voltage from stock yet.

 

Looks like I may need to go back to the drawing board on finding 3466 timings then and hope. Even though not kicking errors. Either that or I'll redownload CB15 to make sure that isn't the issue/corrupted

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ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 Review + Linux Test
Level1Techs
Published on Aug 2, 2018
3:22 - VRMs
6:38 - Linux Test
11:08 - Memory Test

 

And here we go;
https://www.fudzilla.com/news/pc-ha...adripper-2000-packaging-smiles-for-the-camera
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/6269...000-series-packaging-looks-awesome/index.html
All stemming from
https://videocardz.com/77007/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-and-threadripper-2950x-get-unboxed

 

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2000 packaging unveiled
Published: 2nd Aug 2018, 16:52
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2000-packaging-unveiled

"AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2000 packaging
So you were probably thinking, AMD will reuse Threadripper 1000 packaging for the new series. Well, guess what: AMD has even bigger, fancier and sexier packing for Threadripper 2000 series.

Threadripper 2000 processors will come in a new box, with CPUs hidden behind a translucent window. The CPU emerges from a rocky/polygonal mountain covered in fire. The front opens and uncovers the CPU and a small shelf where all tools, stickers, and manuals are hidden."



AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2000 packaging smiles for the camera
by SLOBODAN SIMIC, on03 AUGUST 2018
https://www.fudzilla.com/news/pc-ha...adripper-2000-packaging-smiles-for-the-camera

" The flagship Threadripper 2990WX gets unboxed

Just a few days ahead of the official announcement, the packaging for AMD's upcoming 2nd gen Ryzen Threadripper 2000-series CPUs has appeared online alongside the full unboxing of the flagship Threadripper 2990WX.

With the official announcement and launch scheduled to happen in a few days, it comes as no surprise that details regarding AMD's 2nd generation Threadripper 2000-series have started to appear online, including the new packing box, which has been revealed by Videocardz.com.

The new box is significantly different than the one for the first generation and shows the CPU in all its glory, displayed behind a translucent window. The box includes a hidden shelf with all the tools, manuals, and other things. The back of the box also shows the new Threadripper slogan "unlocked, unrestrained, uncompromising.".

In addition to the leaked box, IXBT did a full video unboxing of the flagship 32-core Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX, and although it was promptly taken down, Videocardz.com managed to grab a couple of screenshots, showing the contents, which include a mounting bracket, screwdriver, and a sticker.

The post suggests that selected reviewers were handed two samples, the 16-core Threadripper 2950x and the 32-core Threadripper 2990WX, as well as a dummy CPU for display purposes.

Reviews should start to appear in next few weeks as AMD is trying to keep a tight lid on it, at least for now.



AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2000 series packaging looks AWESOME
The new Ryzen Threadripper packaging looks awesome, with the CPU hidden behind a see-through window
By:Anthony Garreffa | CPU, APU & Chipsets News | Posted: 13 hours, 37 mins ago
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/6269...000-series-packaging-looks-awesome/index.html

"AMD is about to unleash its refreshed and uncompromising Ryzen Threadripper 2000 series CPUs, with the new packaging for the CPUs arriving with a leak by VideoCardz.

Most people thought the new Ryzen Threadripper 2000 series would use re-use the packaging from the Threadripper 1000 series CPUs, but it was wrong. The new packaging is mean, and it looks freaking awesome. We can expect the Threadripper 2000 series CPUs to be hidden behind a see-through window.

The CPU is surrounded by a polygon-themed mountain that is covered in fire, it's that hardcore. The front of the package opens up to reveal the CPU, with a small shelf where AMD has placed all of the tools, stickers, and manual.

On the back, AMD says the new Ryzen Threadripper is "Unlocked. Unrestrained. Uncompromising".

Expect full details and reviews on the Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX and other second-gen Threadripper CPUs in the coming weeks."

 

ASUS Announces 2nd Generation Ryzen Threadripper WX Series, X399 Cooling Kits For ROG Zenith Extreme, ROG STRIX X399-E and PRIME X399-A Motherboards
By Hassan Mujtaba, 17 hours ago
https://wccftech.com/asus-x399-cooling-kits-ryzen-threadripper-wx-cpus-announced/

"ASUS has just announced the latest cooling kits for their current X399 motherboards which will allow full overclocking support of the upcoming 2nd Generation Ryzen Threadripper processors.

The new cooling kits would be sold separately and would feature compatibility with all existing ASUS X399 motherboards.

Featuring support on the existing ASUS X399 motherboard lineup which includes the ROG Zenith Extreme, ROG STRIX X399-E, and PRIME X399-A, the new cooling kits will be available with the 2nd Generation Ryzen Threadripper WX series launch in mid of August. The cooling kits will not go out as a bundle but would have to be bought separately.

ASUS will offer new BIOS firmware and cooling kits for existing X399 motherboards to support 2nd Generation Ryzen Threadripper WX Series CPUs. ( (Image Credits: 4Gamer)

The ASUS X399 Cooling kits would include a single fan bracket, a single SOC heatsink, and a set of screws. The one with the ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme would additionally include a single 4010 fan to provide active cooling to the VRMs while with the other boards, you’d have to purchase a fan by yourself. The SOC heatsink would be able to cool off the 3rd party controllers on the motherboard and offer the additional cooling capacity to the PCH heatsink.

You’d have to make sure that you’ll be purchasing cooling kits for your motherboard model as specifications of these kits vary for each board.

I think the cooling kits make sense but it would have been a better option if ASUS provided them to all users who purchased the motherboards without any extra cost.

These motherboards were said to support current and future iterations of Ryzen Threadripper processors and since the new Ryzen Threadripper WX series will be bumping the TDP from 180W to 250W, the extra cooling is more of a necessity.

In addition to the cooling kits, ASUS is also offering new BIOS firmware for their current X399 PCH motherboards to support the upcoming processors.

The updated ones haven’t been uploaded on ASUS’s webpage but we will let you know once they do."

 

Yeah, all MB mfrs should have done better on the cooling for VRM. I don't care b/c I got the Koolance blocks and slapped them down on my VRM, keeping them to a cooler amount than what even monoblocks accomplish. I'm pretty sure they will handle it.

What I am sad about is the current VRM state moving forward. We will see many revisions on that for upcoming boards, meaning when I do upgrade the CPU, I may need to upgrade the board. But, other than that, cannot wait to see what these can do considering the article showing 4GHz on air cooling for the 32 core chip, supposedly. That will be a monster!

 

Hopefully Asrock does the same for the VRM cooling.

 

It's a pretty big jump from stock 180w to 250w, and I am going to assume that a new motherboard designed for greater than 250w power delivery to allow for overclocking to be a requirement.

That's such a huge power increase you might not get away with even stock performance.

We'll need to wait for product release and reviews to post, then the owners to give us the real lowdown.

 

I'd like to see them do something closer to what was seen on the EVGA X299 Dark coolers. Fins on heatpipes, primed with a nice fan.

 

just want a good kit is all. easier than piece meal.

 

I call bull on not getting stock performance, so long as the VRM are cool enough to lower ripple. I run my chip at 250W as is now. Now, if overclocking, then other than light OCing, you will be limited. But, just running stock, shouldn't be much of a problem on the boards with 60A phases.

Edit: this assumes appropriate cooling solutions for the VRM. If your VRM are not being kept cool, then I change it to saying you will get current/power throttle conditions, potentially. Adequate cooling is a HUGE assumption here.

 

The Taichi uses a heat pipe over the VRM's to a heat sink but no fan. I would not mind a new active cooler.

 

Nice MB;
https://wccftech.com/gigabyte-x399-aorus-extreme-motherboard-500-usd-price-announcement/
No Asrock yet?
https://hothardware.com/news/asus-msi-gigabyte-announce-x399-motherboards-2nd-gen-threadripper

 

Leak = the 2920x is not 125w? and possible pricing.
https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/08/03/amd_ryzen_threadripper_spec_leaks/

Not too sure the above is a leak as this is the source;
https://videocardz.com/77031/amd-ry...70wx-2950x-and-2920x-specs-and-pricing-leaked

 

FYI - this may explain some anomalies people are experiencing on their AMD systems after the latest Windows 10 updates:

CPU Vulnerabilities, Meltdown and Spectre, Kernel Page Table Isolation Patches, and more
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...atches-and-more.812424/page-103#post-10776864

Spoiler: Details...

" Security TechCenter
ADV180002 | Guidance to mitigate speculative execution side-channel vulnerabilities
Security Advisory
Published: 01/03/2018 | Last Updated : 08/01/2018
https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-US/security-guidance/advisory/ADV180002

Update 23.0 08/01/2018 Added FAQ #18 to address a high CPU utilization issue some customers with an AMD-based device are experiencing after installing the June or July Windows security updates or after installing a BIOS update.

18. I have an AMD-based device and I am experiencing high CPU utilization after installing the June or July Windows security updates or after installing a BIOS update for my device. Is this expected?

There have been reports of high CPU utilization resulting in performance degradation on some systems with Family 15h & 16h AMD processors after installing June 2018 or July 2018 Windows updates from Microsoft and updated AMD microcode that addresses Spectre Variant 2 (CVE-2017-5715 - Branch Target Injection). AMD and Microsoft have investigated this issue, and Microsoft is working to provide a solution in the near-term. This advisory will be updated when a solution is released.

Customers who wish to remediate the performance impact caused by this issue may wish to consider temporarily disabling Spectre Variant 2 mitigations via registry settings for Windows until a solution for this issue is released. When a solution is released for this issue, customers will need to re-enable the registry settings.

We do not recommend that customers uninstall the June or July security updates for Windows because the June and July updates provide numerous other critical security fixes.

Changing Registry Settings

Important This section, method, or task contains steps that tell you how to modify the registry. However, serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Therefore, make sure that you follow these steps carefully. For added protection, back up the registry before you modify it. Then, you can restore the registry if a problem occurs. For more information about how to back up and restore the registry, see [Microsoft Knowledge Base article 322756[( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/322756).

Note Disabling and enabling the Spectre Variant 2 mitigation through registry setting changes requires administrative rights and a restart.

To disable Spectre Variant 2 mitigations:

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverrideMask /t REG_DWORD /d 3 /f

Restart the computer for the changes to take effect.

When the solution is available, the registry keys will need to be re-enabled.

To enable Spectre Variant 2 mitigations:

reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverrideMask /t REG_DWORD /d 3 /f

Restart the computer for the changes to take effect."

 

Yeah, I figured out the ram slowdown after the update. Primarily it was tightening the tFAW significantly, with a couple other tweaks on my platform. Had to go from 24 down to 18 to get the ram to act right. Now, back up to my CB15 scores of around 3525. I couldn't stabilize some other timings that would have given 3536, but still not too bad for the mem being at 3466 instead of 3600MHz.

But I'll keep this in mind as well.

 

If you already had the mitigations turned off, then this probably won't affect you - unless it turns them back on - but then again I thought Microsoft had the mitigations disabled by default already in Windows 10.

But, I thought I'd give a heads up anyway, just in case some had them enabled already and the update started a problem.

 

Release date?
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-available-for-preorder-for-1799-usd

Edit Speculation and lets assume AMD will list stock real clocks so running @3.4 for 5033 and 100% scale for OC

 

The 2990wx looks absurdly strong.. damn AMD

 

Threadripper 2000 Series Unboxing: What Comes With AMD's 32-Core Monster?
https://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/852-amd-2nd-gen-threadripper-unboxing.html

 

A bit off topic but;
https://www.pcmag.com/news/362921/virus-takes-tsmc-chip-fabs-offline

 

August 13th is 32 core availability + performance reviews NDA release day with August 31st as 16 core availability, today August 6th is unboxing only...

Threadripper 2 launch special with Jim Anderson of AMD | The Full Nerd SE
PCWorld
Published on Aug 6, 2018
Join The Full Nerd gang as they talk about the latest PC hardware topics. In this special edition episode Gordon sits down with Jim Anderson from AMD to go over all the 2nd Gen Threadripper details including pricing, clock speeds, and availability!


Threadripper 2 unbox and install with Jim Anderson of AMD!
WraithRipper Cooler unboxing at 15:25
PCWorld
Published on Aug 6, 2018
Jim Anderson (SVP at AMD) stopped by the PCWorld offices to help Gordon unbox and install the new 2nd Gen Threadripper. He also gave us a super special sneak peak at Threadripper 3!!!


Threadripper 2 Specs, Price, Topology, Die Arrangement, & More
Gamers Nexus
Published on Aug 6, 2018

Spoiler: Details...

AMD's Threadripper 2 CPUs have been fully detailed, but not yet reviewed. We talk Threadripper 2 2990WX, 2970WX, 2950X, and 2920X specs and prices.
News article: https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3...
AMD's Threadripper 2 CPU specs include the following SKUs:
- AMD Threadripper 2 2920X
- AMD Threadripper 2 2950X
- AMD Threadripper 2 2970WX
- AMD Threadripper 2 2990WX
Prices range from $650 to $1800, as we talk about in this news piece. Threadripper 2 primarily moves to 12nm LP, reducing cache latencies and DRAM latency, with other optimizations including JEDEC memory support increasing to 2933MHz from 2666MHz.
Core counts range from 12C/24T to 32C/64T. TDP also is a scale, but stops at around 250W. The rest is in the article and video above.

Spoiler: A bunch more of our favorite channels getting to Unbox TR2...

Threadripper 2990WX (32-core) Unboxing, Pricing & Availability
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Aug 6, 2018

IT'S HERE - Threadripper 2 2950X Reviewer's Kit Unboxing!
Paul's Hardware
Published on Aug 6, 2018
Threadripper 2 2950X Reviewer's Kit Unboxing!

Threadripper 2 Explained - The Intel DESTROYER?
HardwareCanucks
Published on Aug 6, 2018
AMD's Threadripper 2 is finally here!

AMD Threadripper 2 - 2990WX and 2950X First Look
OC3D TV
Published on Aug 6, 2018
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/c...

AMD's New Threadripper 2 CPUs Are No Joke - 4 New SKUS!
Tech of Tomorrow
Published on Aug 6, 2018
AMD's New Threadripper 2 CPUs Are No Joke - 4 New SKUS!

AMD Threadripper 2 Sydney Event, Specs, Pricing, Release Dates and More!
Jarrod'sTech
Published on Aug 6, 2018
I was invited to AMD’s 2nd Gen Threadripper briefing event in Sydney today and ended up with a little more than I bargained for, here’s a video about the trip which covers specs, pricing and release dates of the upcoming CPUs.

AMD ThreadRipper 2 Sydney Event Vlog (2920X, 2950X, 2970WX & 2990WX)
Tech Showdown
Published on Aug 6, 2018
In this Threadripper 2 First Look + Airline Showdown hybrid Vlog, I talk about the new 2920X, 2950X, 2970WX & 2990WX CPU's!
Which CPU are you most likely to buy if you are going to buy one?

 

Computer Virus DELAYS new iPhone??
TechLinked
Published on Aug 6, 2018

 

Threadripper 2 price & clocks | The Full Nerd Ep. 62
...about 05:25 through about 36:50...
PCWorld
Streamed live 6 hours ago
Join The Full Nerd gang as they talk about the latest PC hardware topics. Today's show digs into all the details around AMD's 2nd Gen Threadripper launch (including price), Intel's 9000 series being leaked, and much more. As always we will be answering your live questions so speak up in the chat!
Check out the audio version of the podcast on iTunes and Google Play so you can listen on the go and be sure to subscribe so you don't miss the latest live episode!


Intel Xeon 8176SP 28 core - $8719 - Cost per thread is the highest yet!! - $156 per thread!! (after 36:00)

 

The graphs are somewhat misleading. We need a different chart that not just goes by cost per thread but performance per thread, not just clocks. The 1950x, and 2950x, both have higher performance per thread than the 2990x. .

 

1 Year with Threadripper, Thoughts From An Early Adopter
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Aug 8, 2018

 

Ryzen Mobile in 13-Inch Ultraportable Tested: HP Envy x360 13 Review
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Aug 9, 2018

 

I disagree. That is a horribly misleading measure for high core count chips. Performance per thread is great for mainstream as it shows single threaded performance and many older programs, specifically games, are limited on thread use.

For HCC, the only time that comes up is mixed workloads for like a streamer. Instead, you need multi threaded performance measurements more for high core count chips. That also goes for Intel HCC chips, which is why we see similar performance on a couple fewer cores on Intel HCC and XCC chips.

So Intel having the same performance on water OC in the Linus video as a 2990WX overclocked to 4GHz or so on air makers the two products comparable, especially since Intel's 28 core chip is clocked to similar clocks (likely 4.2-4.4). That little bit higher on performance per thread isn't why you would pay likely double for the Intel chip ($3500-5000 plus a new motherboard and socket).

But, I'm willing to hear you out on per thread if you can address my points here.

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I doubt a chart giving the 14% per thread advantage of a 28 thread chip will justify a 100% price markup. That is comparing the 2990wx at 4 GHz to the probable 4 GHz 28 core. Assuming there is that much a difference that is. It will just more closely match the true results is all.

It is just like 32 cores over 18 now is a 75% improvement but the 7980xe is not lacking 75% of the performance, more like a generously estimated average of only 30% (I have not done the math). So I think it should be shown accordingly. We are going back to the old marketing rational the it is as much better as it is bigger.

Edit; Right now we can't have a chart against the 28 core as it does not exist. Once it is out and we know what it can do on a comparable system we can compare it then. I would never recommend comparing vaporware except to dispute what the vaporware can do.

 

I disagree. Anyone that is only taking into account number of cores is NOT in IT and not making the buy decision at companies. And for home users, no one will buy an 18C CPU which overclocked to 4.4GHz over a 32-core chip which overclocked to 4.0-4.2GHz at the same price point. As you mentioned, you can go down to 16C on those chips when needed.

As to IPC, Intel only has a 1-4% advantage. Even estimating an 86% scaling from the current generation for the 32 core chip in memory intensive workloads (not all workloads take this hit, even though they have to access mem off chip, it varies on effect), Intel's advantage would only move to 5% IPC advantage on estimates for clock for clock. I think that part of the estimate is being blown out of proportion.

And 30% less performance at the same price point is a huge loss. (Around 6000 points on the 2990WX versus 4400 on the 7980XE is over 1/3rd, so over 33% performance increase at the same price point). In fact, 35-50% was Intel's offerings to bulldozer, IIRC.

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Agreed, 18 unless the ipc is like 75%, will not match nor should it be considered a replacement. In this chart the AMD will still win but only be (again a guestimate) about a 30-35% better overall CPU, not including price. So compare the skews as total core count times performance per core at that skew.

Edit, so if you use 33% then the 7980xe by comparison is worth 1205 but priced at 1,999 it is 65% more expensive;

 

Doesn't really matter if AMD is 'only' 35% better than Intel at the moment.
The core point here is that TR2 is A LOT cheaper than Intel's server options, it clocks higher than TR1 and is better optimized/tweaked.
Also, A LOT of business and industry software is predominantly optimized for Intel in the first place. With greater adoption of TR1 and 2 into the server space and businesses, this will shift into AMD's favour which will further increase performance for AMD's hardware as they optimize for its code (as opposed to Intel's).

Besides, businesses DO care about price/performance ratio.
AMD currently offers much better value, performance, and it does that in a single socket to boot.
Plus, no businesses will be overclocking their hardware to begin with... so, Intel loses even more ground in the business arena because their hardware will have to operate at out of the box settings - which further increases AMD's lead.

Sorry, but Intel can't compete on AMD in this section at all.
And even if Intel does release their 28 core part... how much more expensive is it going to be?
I'm guessing that since they might try and pull an i9, maybe half the price of the original Xeon 28c part... but the low yields and high production costs might not allow this.
AMD sells the TR2 for under $2000.
The cheapest I could 'potentially' see the 28c Intel part would come out to $4000 to $5000 - and that's being generous (of course, I could be wrong)... but initially, we were told that Intel's 'new' 28c parts will probably be selling for close to $10 000... so so I guess we shall have to wait and see if Intel manages to even release that 28c part in the first place, and then how much they will price it.

 

I agree, AMD wins but not at the point you mention. Firstly is that TR is NOT a server part. It is an enterprise part for sure but not a Xeon, Epyc is for that. This though is another loosing battle for Intel.

So while the new TR's are a huge win for AMD and they dominate Intel's offerings they are not a 75% better piece of hardware nor should we confuse them as such (where price is not a concern). I just think as a comparison scale we need to realize how far AMD is really ahead. This way once 7nm is here we can again realistically look how much further ahead they are then too.

Remember too AMD right now is only going to be dancing on highly threaded workloads with the 2970wx and 2990wx. Till 7nm the other skews all still lag somewhat behind. AMD needs this dent though into the marketplace, worlds most overall powerful workload CPU.

Now we were not told the 28 core consumer version would be $10,000, we were told they needs to convert the tech of their $10,000 Xeon to a consumer level chip and price. It has yet been seen if this low yield chip can meet that criteria. When Intel is backed to a corner they just love vaporware.

 

TR may not be a server part, but nothing prevents it from being used as such or in businesses at large.
EPYC tops out at 32 cores much like 2990x, but it also operates at much lower frequencies (base and boost). I don't see any real issues in adapting TR2 to work as a server part.

People who focus on single-threaded performance on those high core CPU's are really missing the point of those parts in the first place... and besides, its hardly a slouch (considering the node restrictions AMD has to work with).
At worst it will be comparable to other Ryzen+ products with much lower core counts in single threaded performance... but it will end up being far superior in multitasking, content creation, etc. (areas for which 2970wx and 2990wx were originally designed for - granted, gaming is part of the equation, but it's not a sole point.
Last time I checked, most people don't use their hardware for gaming only.

As for Intels' 28c part and price.... well, have a look at this:
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/intels-28-core-5ghz-processor-could-cost-dollar10000

Granted, they were saying this for Intel's overclocking stunt which is not representative of the actual product... but still, the original Xeon Platinum 8176 costs $8719.
Do you really think that with low yields they will be able to drop the price by 50%? That's assuming they can get their 28c parts for consumers out into the market in the first place.
I personally doubt it... and still, would eve die-hard fans of Intel get that part at such a price?
If yes, I would imagine the numbers would be very few. The overall cost of the system would be several times that of an TR2 build... most of the cost would be in the CPU, not including anything else.

 

You may not see a difference but there is, like it or not. TR2 is not a server part, now for use as a home server fine but in business if you are IT you purchase real server parts for servers. Workstations TR2's are fine for.

That $10,000 cost is all speculation and based on the server part cost. The original 18 code Xeon was way more than $2,000 too. Again with low yields and power and cooling this is all vaporware anyway. In the end we shall see.

As I said we need 7nm Epyc to really start challenging Intel on the server side. 14nm started to see some inroads but the new process will open things up substantially. This is why they are worried. AMD is attacking them from everywhere, mobile being that last place for AMD to come in and take dominance.

 

That's totally wrong unless you use Intel SDK and IDEs for programing. On Linux(GCC) can use optimisations for any CPU architecture be it ARM, AMD,Intel,PowerPC etc.. On Windows, if you use Visual Studio by default Microsoft uses general code optimisation that works on ARM,Intel and AMD chips.
Unless you are developing code for specific CPU/hardware only then optimisation for that HW sounds fine, otherwise its best to stick with general code/binary optimisations provided by any compilers.

 

The World’s Best Workstation Graphics Performance for Under $1000
AMD is announcing the Radeon™ Pro WX 8200 graphics card at Siggraph today, delivering the world’s best workstation graphics performance for under $1000¹. This new professional graphics card delivers great performance across a multitude of workloads ranging from simple design to photorealistic rendering and virtual reality.

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AMD Announces Radeon Pro WX 8200: Pro Vega For Under A Grand
by Ryan Smith on August 12, 2018 9:00 AM EST
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13210/amd-announces-radeon-pro-wx-8200

 

News;
https://wccftech.com/cooler-master-...-with-amd-for-threadripper-cooling-solutions/

 

Build 2990wx;

 

News;
https://www.redsharknews.com/techno...res-up-to-a-whopping-64-threads-over-32-cores
https://www.pcworld.com/article/329...review-amds-32-core-cpu-is-insanely-fast.html
https://www.zdnet.com/article/amds-...on-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-avaialble-today/
Review Rundup;
https://videocardz.com/77210/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-2950x-review-roundup

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antony...owerful-ever-desktop-processors/#5313b7277049

 

Videos for all on the new HEDT CPU ( @Johnksss @TANWare @hmscott @Deks @Papusan @Scerate ) (disclaimer: this isn't a red vs blue thing, but primarily showing Der8auer's work on overclocking the 2990WX in the first video, then general reviews in the rest):








Edit: Here is another video from OC3d. Now, I will also be dropping a comment on Der8auer's video about the ram speed, regressed performance that he saw. I saw the same thing on my 1950X after the updates for compatibility with the new chips. I found that reducing tFAW was able to get my scores back up closer to where they should be, among some other subtiming tweaks. If that isn't done, then the performance even on multicore drops down to stock or worse as far as memory goes for 2133MHz. So, he is correct in noting it, but that problem goes beyond the new chips now and is a timing issue, not a general issue. It can be overcome, which means we may see more performance squeezed out in the future.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13124/the-amd-threadripper-2990wx-and-2950x-review

Just from glancing through the charts (they haven't even finished writing the review yet) my take is that there's no free lunch... feeding all dem cores is the big problem not only re performance constraints (even in many mega thread optimised workloads) but also power efficiency.

64 core 7nm part will have to be set up differently to this. If 6xIF connects between 4 dies eats ~90W then connecting >4 dies is not going to be feasible. Would that point to a 16 core die?

 

Take a look at AdoredTV's videos on YouTube about this. It is specifically the videos about chiplets and interposers and cost of implementation. That would actually change the equation.

Edit: I'm also still watching the reviews while drinking my coffee. I'll need to post a message in Der8auer's YouTube comments to try to explore the RAM issue he had, as I saw similar behavior with the new uefi until I lowered the tFAW and found the right stable speed, which then vastly improved the numbers. I believe it to be a new quark.

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The 7nm TR will still only be 32 core. Since it supposedly will be only 2 CCX complex's the added latency should not be an issue but improved clocks will only add to the memory bandwidth starvation.

Edit; for me the 2950x does not hold enough improvement to warrant an upgrade. The 2990wx just has too many compromises in performance to warrant an upgrade. I rarely use 25% of the CPU now so from what it shows at times CPU usage actually could increase with my workloads and even where it could reduce CPU load I will see no real world improvement. So $899, let alone $1,799, for nothing, well it just is not going to happen.

 

OC3D is one of the few reviewers that follows up with a full article (most of the time), that includes the graphs, tables, and more data than he covers in the video:

AMD Threadripper 2950X and 2990WX Review
Introduction and Technical Specifications
Published: 13th August 2018 | Source: AMD | Price: | Author: Tom Logan
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_threadripper_2950x_and_2990wx_review/1

And, there is now a 2nd Video / article up:

MSI X399 MEG Creation Review with Threadripper 2990WX including overclocking and VRM temps
OC3D TV
Published on Aug 13, 2018


MSI MEG X399 Creation and Threadripper 2990WX Review
Introduction and Technical Specifications
Published: 13th August 2018 | Source: MSI | Price: | Author: Tom Logan
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews...399_creation_and_threadripper_2990wx_review/1

 

Watching the hardware unboxed video, something looks really bad for that 2990WX. It looks like a bad choice honestly. He says uses some pretty negative words about the performance of the chip a lot throughout the video. I see no reason for current TR 1920/50x users to "upgrade".

 

I can see someone upgrading if they currently own a TR and are stressing it out for threaded loads. I don't but again I only see a max of 25% CPU load. Knowing what we get with added cores I may not even want to upgrade past a 3950x once 7nm is here.

 

Have you seen the phoronix review? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-linux-2990wx&num=1

Also, it isn't about the words, it is about the performance. Here is what I've gotten from the reviews so far:

1) Memory intensive workloads nosedive performance.
2) You don't see the performance detriments near as much on Linux, especially with the crypt workloads.
3) winzip once again shows it is a **** measure vs the more popular 7-zip, but like all Zen based chips, encrypting the file is less than intel, but decrypting is great. Also, most used the version before the most recent on winzip that did not yet have the optimizations.
4) It excels at any render task you have. Intel cannot get close.
5) It sucks at light multi-threaded tasks vs some of Intel's chips, along with single threaded tasks.
6) If you do encoding while rendering on the same workstation, or equally true heavy multitasking workloads, it is a beast, but getting it to stretch its legs is hard.
7) Forget about GAMING! (unless going to go to 1/4 or 1/2 legacy mode).
8) Adobe needs to update their ****. Literally, it is increasingly obvious it does better with higher frequency and lightly threaded machines. In an increasingly multithreaded world, it is showing its age. (have not seen usage on Davinci Resolve or Vegas yet, but Magick on Linux shows another story, as does 12 warp blending on premiere I believe it was). To be clear, regardless of Adobe's needs, Intel is favored on these and Intel workstations should be considered if this is your primary workload, except for the hardware acceleration snake oil of the 8700K.

With all of that said, I do agree, the 2950X came out as a shining star in the reviews I have looked at so far. This chip, due to the memory limits, is not the killer expected. Period. But, at what it does do well, it is a monster at. Just limited cases. The 2950X, though, took some crowns over the 7960X at stock. I have not reviewed overclocks on it in detail, instead focusing on the 2990WX to understand the chip.

Tell me if I missed something or misrepresented something here, as I'm trying to keep straight the multiple reviews.

 

I will reserve judgment on that with pricing and performance at the time, especially if the interposer is used. But, for my uses, 16 cores is just fine ATM. But, if you do not own a workstation and are building one, 2950X would be my recommendation, at cheaper than Intel 10-core, what you are getting is really nice! I have a couple workloads I would still recommend Intel over AMD, but those are light workloads or single core, and we are getting close to building a workstation 2950X and a mainstream Intel build for the cost of building a 7980XE system or above. If Intel's pricing remains constant, that would be my recommendation for most professionals, to split it between two machines rather than one. Just being honest.