Alleged Intel Core i7-8086K 40th Anniversary Processor Leaked and Benchmarked – 6c/12t , 5.1 ghz !

Are there any temperature differences between the 8086K and 8700K, read that the 8700K can get quite hot, can the same be said for the 8086K with it being the same CPU (in a sense).

 

If you watch the reviews and video coverage you'll see they are exactly the same - no differences other than the single core turbo of 5.0ghz for the 8086k, which would make that run hotter - both at stock settings.

They both have the same crap under the IHS doing a poor job of transferring heat from the die through the IHS to the heatsink, so both can benefit from delid.

If you took one each 8700k and 8086k and OC'd both to the same settings, they'd both generate the same thermal output.

If one or the other OC'd higher, that one would draw more power and generate more thermal output.

That's about it.

 

Don't listening on @hmscott
From what I have read, the 8086K run a bit colder and with slightly lower power consumption. But all comes down to the binning quality (if you go for higher clocks).

This is one of many reviews... https://hothardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-8086k-40th-anniversary-cpu-review?page=4

 

Thanks @Papusan, with the lower power/heat would you recommend it over the 8700K for laptop use then?

 

@hmoodie - The 8086K is the same die, same carrier, same IHS, same crappy paste, same construction, and given the same voltage, frequency, produced at the same time on the same process (both new CPU products) - the results will be the same.

If you have an 8086k or 8700k that OC's the same at the same voltage, it will have the same thermal characteristics, within normal measurement variances.

If you have an 8086k or 8700k that OC's at a lower voltage at the same frequency, then that CPU - either 8086k or 8700k with those better characteristics will generate less thermal energy.

I don't believe that the 8700k being made on the same process at the same time as the 8086k is going to be worse off - the luck of the draw is going to be the same - you could just as easily get a new 8086k (binned) that performs just the same - or close enough to - a new 8700k, as shown by review after review from reviewers and end users.

And, if you are going to OC your 8086k, that reviewer couldn't get it stable past 5.1ghz, and look at the power draw increase under OC at the wall - 100w+ increase @ 5.1ghz, any tiny variances in power draw at stock are blown away by OC'ing:

If people want to throw away $100 more for an 8086k, that's fine, but I'm not going recommend the 8086k as worth the extra $100, because it's not.

$100 more in cost should get you a whole level up in CPU, like going from an 8600k to an 8700k:
https://ark.intel.com/compare/126684,126685

You don't spend $100 for the "hope" that the 8086k you get will be better than the 8700k - luck of the draw is the same whether one pool of parts is tilted slightly better than the other or not.

@Papusan himself has proven my point with his own 8700k @ 5.2ghz ( vs 8086k @ 5.1ghz ) running ultra cool at load in his laptop:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.797128/page-1040#post-10762715

It's luck of the draw, and throwing away another $100 isn't going to guarantee a better result, as the review that @Papusan linked - they only got 5.1ghz stable out of their 8086k sample.

Now if you can get the vendor building your laptop to guarantee 5.2ghz in your laptop like @Papusan is getting, that would be worth $100 extra. And, I'd let them pick from both the 8700k and 8086k pools, which ever they prefer - guess which one they'll pick from? 8700k, of course - it's cheaper!!

 

@hmoodie I concur, don't listen to hmscott. Go with what Papusan tells you. He is the master overclocker here and knows CPUs, overclocking, voltages, binning, you name it, like the top of his head.

 

@Papusan himself has proven my point with his own 8700k @ 5.2ghz ( vs 8086k @ 5.1ghz ) running ultra cool at load in his laptop:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.797128/page-1040#post-10762715

His 8700k results prove that luck of the draw and good tuning will provide just as good of result or better in this case, than the 8086k example he linked which could only OC to 5.1ghz.

We can argue this till the cows come home, but if there is no guarantee that spending $100 extra on a new 8086k is going to OC better than a new 8700k, it's not worth taking a chance for an extra $100.

@hmoodie - Unless you can get the laptop vendor to make such a guarantee, that your specific CPU in your new build laptop will do 5.2ghz for $100 extra, I wouldn't throw away an extra $100 on a "chance" that it "might".

 

None read my posts? "But all comes down to the binning quality (especially if you go for higher clocks - aka bigger chance - You should will get 100% chance for 5.0GHz on all cores)". 8086K is overall a better binned chips. Of course you can be lucky in the silicon lottery and get many good 8700K chips. Better binned chips means bigger chance for cooler running stock.

If you haven't an intention to run high clocks, a 8700K is cheaper and a good option.

And where comes the $100 usd from?

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX8068...rd-20&linkId=e41b310aac834a8ff5d51413f367c298

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-870...&qid=1531500158&sr=1-3&keywords=Core+i7+8700K

Edit.. https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8672/intel-core-i7-8086k-coffee-lake-review/index8.html

 

haha guys guys guys! i think theres a misunderstanding here

@hmscott is talking about thermals between 8086K and 8700K at EXACT SAME settings. so identical voltage and frequency.

@Papusan is talking about thermals attainable with 8086K and 8700K. the 8086K is binned and thus can be run at lower voltages at identical clocks to the 8700K, thus offering better thermals when comparing optimized settings at same clocks

so yeah, at same settings the 8086K does NOT run cooler but at optimized settings most 8086K cpus would run cooler than their 8700K brethren...

 

@hmoodie inquired about getting his 8086k in a laptop, so picking an LGA laptop vendor at random, the HID Evolution Evoc 870TM1 Customization prices for the 8086k vs 8700k are as follows (at least right now):
http://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-p870tm1-dual-gtx-1080.html

• HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Overclocked 8th Gen Intel Core i5-8600K 6 Core Processor, 4.3 GHz (HIDevolution OC'd to 4.4GHz) - GUARANTEED Performance (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut included)
• No CPU -$250.00
• HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted, and Overclocked 8th Gen Intel Core i7-8700K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 4.7 GHz (HIDevolution OC'd to 4.8GHz) - GUARANTEED Performance (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut included) +$120.00 (over base 8600k)
• HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked and Under Volted 8th Gen Limited Edition Intel Core i7-8086K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 5.0 GHz - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut included +$210.00
• Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested 8th Gen Limited Edition Intel Core i7-8086K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 5.0 GHz (Rated to 5.1GHz) - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Included +$300.00
• Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested 8th Gen Limited Edition Intel Core i7-8086K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 5.0 GHz (Rated to 5.2GHz) - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Included +$420.00
• Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested 8th Gen Limited Edition Intel Core i7-8086K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 5.0 GHz (Rated to 5.3GHz) - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Included +$730.00

So the HID guaranteed speed's stop at 4.8ghz, the SiliconLottery CPU's come from them tested at their rated speed, but HID doesn't guarantee that speed will be attainable in the laptop.

At least from HID an 8086k costs $90-$610 more than the 8700k that is guaranteed to run @ 4.8ghz.

IDK, I think I'd wait for the SiliconLottery 8700k SKU's to get restocked, and hope they are cheaper than the 8086k at the same speed bin.

SiliconLottery was saying they are receiving new 8700k stock on July 10th, but now they are saying July 14th.

 

Already in my link above...
Intel Core i7-8086K: Overclocking And Power Consumption
We also spent some time overclocking the Core i7-8086K using the Gigabyte Z370 Gaming Ultramotherboard to see what kind of additional horsepower the processor had lurking under its hood. Because Coffee Lake has had some time to mature and Intel does some selective binning to ensure high clocks with these chips, we were interested to see how far we could push our sample.

And people forget this chips is in 50.000 samples. Not 500.000 or +1 mill. Up to the people if they will buy it or not. None force it on you

 

No, at least I am not misunderstanding what I am saying.

I'm trying to convey that those better 8700k binnings pulled in to the 8086k inventory are not exclusive to the 8086k.

Intel didn't take *all* of the top CPU's, they took a limited edition quantity, and after that special binning Intel is continuing to produce 8700k's, without pulling the top bins out.

So, today's new 8700k's have all the top bins in them too.

SiliconLottery will be able to offer 5.3ghz / 5.2ghz / 5.1ghz / 5.0ghz 8700k bins the same as before the 8086k swiped a bunch of them.

Besides, clearly Intel didn't do a very good job binning the 8086k's as only 1 review has recently tuned to 5.3ghz "stable" right at the end of a multi-hour tuning session, and we don't really know just how stable that is, because another reviewer thought they were stable at 5.3ghz, and had to reduce to 5.2ghz after more time testing.

What I am saying is you are paying more (as much as $779) to help improve your luck of the draw. Buying an 8086k doesn't guarantee you anything, not even from HID's options above.

Given reviewers results so far, Intel did a crappy job binning - Intel included lower performing CPU's in their 8086k pool, and I doubt it diluted the 8700k pool by much as a result.

Again, unless you can get a performance guarantee at the speed / cost of interest, it's a gamble.

 

Siliconlottery have them (only i7-8086K). But there is a lack of the top binned chips from Caseking

 

SiliconLottery is SOLD OUT of the 8700k bins, and advertise an ETA for more on July 14th (it was July 10th BTW):

I'd wait for SiliconLottery to update their pricing and % at each bin after the 8700k's are back in stock before splurging on an 8086k.
https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all/intel-i7-8700k

 

It's soon weekend so no hurry People can just sit down in peace and quiet and follow if they are looking for it.

 

Well, then again, those limited edition 8086k's might sell out before you get a chance to decide, so maybe it's best to blow that extra $ on a roll of the dice with a binned 8086k, right now!!

 

Our studies show that the binned Intel® Core™ i7-8086K Limited Edition Processors will generally run cooler at the same settings as the Intel® Core™ i7-8700K. As a result, we are also finding that the Intel® Core™ i7-8086K can be OC'd higher on all 6 Cores than the Intel® Core™ i7-8700K.

This is why you see all of our Intel® Core™ i7-8086K CPUs on the EVOC High Performance Systems P870TM1 and TM at 5.0GHz, which is not locked on all 6 Cores, but we do lock them at 4.9GHz on all 6 Cores with the Prema BIOS, at which they are stable.

 

So that's now a guarantee for the 8086k's @ 4.9ghz all core OC?, like the 8700k's 4.8ghz all core OC guarantee?

 

The 8086k is down at #16 in popularity at Amazon Top CPU sales right now even with the price drop, it was #14 yesterday... 8700k at #1 - top 10 is split evenly between AMD and Intel.
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/pc/229189

 

Correct.

 

CORRECTION. On the EVOC High Performance Systems P775TM1 and EVOC High Performance Systems P870TM1 / TM all 6 cores are locked to 5.0GHz at all times. The EVOC High Performance Systems P750TM1 is locked at 4.8GHz on all Cores at all times.

HIDevolution will guarantee performance up to stated speeds in selected option. Normally, the CPU will vary the clock speed based on load factors. The system may throttle back some cores under intense load. Whether you are web browsing, gaming, or rendering for hours, we have set ALL cores to run at the advertised speeds at ALL times.

 

Definitely recommend.
It's better binned. Better binned means lower default CPU VID.
Lower default VID=lower heat. Lower temps at stock speed and thus at least +1 bin better overclocking.

Personally I'm waiting for 8 cores + Clevo.

 

Wow, that's great

At least for the 870TM1 the 8086k 5.0ghz all core OC "GUARANTEED Performance" isn't in the copy for the CPU options, I haven't checked the other models:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alleged-intel-core-i7-8086k-40th-anniversary-processor-leaked-and-benchmarked-–-6c-12t-5-1-ghz.815636/page-11#post-10762804

 

Er, did you miss this:
"HIDevolution will guarantee performance up to stated speeds in selected option...Whether you are web browsing, gaming, or rendering for hours, we have set ALL cores to run at the advertised speeds at ALL times."

I apologize if our English is not clear, but our intended meaning is, if it says 5.0GHz for the Intel® Core™ i7-8086K, it means locked on all 6 Cores, all the time. Stated speed, not rated speed.

 

Yeah, I didn't get that because the 8600k and 8700k CPU option selections say "GUARANTEED Performance" after listing a specific all core speed OC specific to that sku, outside the normal specs of the part - which is also listed.

• HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Overclocked 8th Gen Intel Core i5-8600K 6 Core Processor, 4.3 GHz (HIDevolution OC'd to 4.4GHz) - GUARANTEED Performance (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut included)

• HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted, and Overclocked 8th Gen Intel Core i7-8700K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 4.7 GHz (HIDevolution OC'd to 4.8GHz) - GUARANTEED Performance (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut included) +$120.00

and the 8086k only says:

• HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked and Under Volted 8th Gen Limited Edition Intel Core i7-8086K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 5.0 GHz - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut included +$210.00

With the normal single core turbo spec of 5.0ghz listed, but no all core speed OC + "GUARANTEED Performance" statement, which is the same as for the Silicon Lottery binned CPU's, with no specific "GUARANTEED Performance" statement:

• Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested 8th Gen Limited Edition Intel Core i7-8086K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 5.0 GHz (Rated to 5.1GHz) - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Included +$300.00

• Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested 8th Gen Limited Edition Intel Core i7-8086K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 5.0 GHz (Rated to 5.2GHz) - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Included +$420.00

• Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested 8th Gen Limited Edition Intel Core i7-8086K 6 Core-12 Thread Processor, 5.0 GHz (Rated to 5.3GHz) - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Included +$730.00

Those add a "Rated to" speed, indicative of the Silicon Lottery Speed bin they are sold under from Silicon Lottery - tested / binned on their desktop test bench. But, they don't actually say "GUARANTEED Performance" for any specific speed in your new laptop for those Silicon Lottery options either.

If there is a statement for "GUARANTEED Performance" and a speed called out for some options and not others, I would read it as the others aren't "GUARANTEED Performance" at a specific speed.

Adding a "speed" + "GUARANTEED Performance" like the 8600k / 8700k option's already have to each of the options where they are missing, then you can clearly see the "GUARANTEED Performance" at a specific speed, and it would be much clearer.

If you are now offering "GUARANTEED Performance" @ 5.0ghz all core for the base 8086k, it's a good thing to let people know explicitly in the option, just like for the 8600k / 8700k, otherwise it looks like an "if" or "maybe" as the Silicon Lottery speed bins have been traditionally.

If it had said that when I read and quoted it I could have said, at least you are "GUARANTEED Performance" @ 5.0ghz all core for your $90 extra. Instead of only being able to say that your $90 is buying a "chance" for better performance than the 8700k.

It's a better value proposition when the buyer gets the performance promise stated in the option so when trying to decide which CPU option to select you know what you are getting for the $extra$ cost.

 

Stream Recap: Live Overclock Results for Intel i7-8086K
By Steve Burke, Published July 13, 2018 at 1:50 pm
https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3340-stream-recap-live-overclock-intel-i7-8086k

Note: this particular 8086k had a low performing IMC, so known good 4600mhz memory could only reach 3660mhz, see around 03:30.

 

Intel Core i7-8086K Processor Review-legitreviews.com



Final Thoughts and Conclusions

The Intel Core i7-8086K has better single-core performance than the Intel Core i7-8700K, but once more cores are being used it has identical performance. This is the fastest CPU for the Intel Z370 platform though, so look no further if that is what you are after. It also should be a hit with collectors that are looking for a limited edition processor to cherish. The Intel Core i7-8086K is available for $389.99 shipped, which is around $40 more than an 8700K. It might even hold its resale value better due to being limited edition!

We were able to get an extra 100 MHz out of the 8086K when overclocking and were able to get it stable at 5.4 GHz. Unfortunately, at clock speeds that high you’ll experience thermal throttling on closed loop liquid coolers if you don’t delid one of the processors and put in better thermal paste. The 8086K is a very fun chip to overclock and it is screaming to be delidded and pushed to the limits.

 

Dream PCs for Gaming, Streaming, and Creating | Intel
Intel
Published on Aug 30, 2018
From the legacy of the Intel 8086 (to the modern-day Intel Core i7-8086k), Intel technology has continually inspired new generations of builders, creators, and gamers.

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Intel asked four prominent voices in the community to share what personal computing meant to them, taking inspiration from their responses and crafting unique systems capable of their demanding workloads.

Custom design and fabrication shop SCPS created 4 unique systems for Linus Sebastian (Linus Tech Tips), Anne Munition, Nabil "Aiekillu" Lahrech, and Matthew "Sevadus" Zagursky.

Spec List of PCs:

BUILD SPECS

Linus Sebastian’s “Sleeper” PC || A retrofitted IBM 5150 Chassis
Motherboard: ASRock Motherboard Z370 GAMING-ITX
CPU: INTEL® CORE™ i7-8086K PROCESSOR
SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA III 250GB SSD
Graphics Card: Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Strix Gaming
Memory: G.SKILL TridentZ non-RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) (DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600))
CPU Cooler: Intel BXTS13X Liquid Cooling Thermal Solution
Power Supply: Corsair HXi Series HX1000i 1000W 80 Plus Platinum

AnneMunition || A Gaming PC and a Streaming PC in 1 Package || Gaming PC ||
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Gaming 7
CPU: INTEL® CORE™ i7-8086K PROCESSOR
SSD:
Graphics Card: Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Strix Gaming
Memory: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) (DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600))
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H115i Liquid CPU Cooler
Power Supply: Corsair HXi Series HX1000i 1000W 80 Plus Platinum || Streaming PC ||
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Gaming 7
CPU: INTEL® CORE™ i7-8086K PROCESSOR
SSD: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (960GB)
HDD: Seagate 10TB BarraCuda Pro 7200RPM
Graphics Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080
Capture Card: Elgato Game Capture Card HD60 Pro 4K
Sound Card: ASUS ESSENCE STX II 24-bit Hi-Fi Sound Card
Memory: Corsair HXi Series HX1000i 1000W 80 Plus Platinum
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H115i Liquid CPU Cooler
Power Supply: Corsair HXi Series HX1000i 1000W 80 Plus Platinum

|| AIEKILLU || A Minimal Wiring Solution PC in a Desk ||

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X299 Professional Gaming i9 XE
CPU: INTEL® CORE™ i7-8086K PROCESSOR
SSD: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (960GB)
Graphics Card: Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Strix Gaming
Memory: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) (DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600))
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H115i Liquid CPU Cooler
Power Supply: Corsair HXi Series HX1000i 1000W 80 Plus Platinum

|| SEVADUS || The Neffy Comes to Life ||

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X299 Professional Gaming i9 XE
CPU: INTEL® CORE™ i7-8086K PROCESSOR
Projector: AAXA P300 Neo Pico/Micro LED Projector
SSD: Intel Optane SSD 905P Series (960GB)
Graphics Card: Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Strix Gaming
Memory: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) (DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600))
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H115i Liquid CPU Cooler
Power Supply: Corsair HXi Series HX1000i 1000W 80 Plus Platinum

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The legacy and impact of 8086 | Intel
Intel
Published on Jun 7, 2018

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Forty years ago, Intel's x86 architecture and the 8086 processor revolutionized computing. Just ask Linus Sebastian, Anne Munition, Nabil "Aiekilu" Lahrech, and Matthew "Sevadus" Zagursky, whose lives and craft were forever changed with their first PC. In conversation with Michele Morrow.

About Intel:
Intel, the world leader in silicon innovation, develops technologies, products and initiatives to continually advance how people work and live. Founded in 1968 to build semiconductor memory products, Intel introduced the world's first microprocessor in 1971. This decade, our mission is to create and extend computing technology to connect and enrich the lives of every person on earth.

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The legacy and impact of 8086 | Intel
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AyyMD/comments/9c7188/linus_shit_tips_sellsout_again_for_shintelshitlel/

The 2 Intel Innovations Linus mentions were actually done by AMD - AMD did 64 bit and AMD did multicore processor - both were AMD innovations, not Intel. Maybe "sellout" Linus was sending coded us a message "help me I'm being held hostage by Intel!!"

 

Two of those systems are wrong. 8086K on X299 mobo?

Edit: yep, not a cut n paste error... the description on their video has it wrong. Ooooops.