Drive health is WARNING!

Hello!

I have last few weeks had problems with my SSD drive. I've just downloaded SSDLife and got this;

What to do?
I'm also running on a old frimware, will a update help to heal my SSD?

 

Here is speedtest, it seems to bee good, dosn't it?



OS loaded from SSD, Winamp running in background, playing random through 1695 mp3 files. I do not know if that has any effect at all tou

 

This sounds like Indilinx SSD and 5TB write seems to be quite something.

Would you be the first one having an SSD that have out run the expected PE cycle ?

Without knowing how this program calculate life, it is hard to tell whether it is the NAND is bad or just the PE cycle has been used up.

 

I want to know that as well.

I just notice that 11TB read tou

However, as you can see the CDM above, here is the specs. OCZ gave for my drive;

Available in 32GB, 64GB, 96GB, and 128GB capacities
64MB Onboard Cache
TRIM Support
Seek Time: < .1ms
Slim 2.5" Design
99.8 x 69.63 x 9.3mm
Lightweight: 77g
Operating Temp: 0°C ~ 70°C
Storage Temp: -45°C ~ +85°C
Low Power Consumption: 2W in operation,
.5W in standby
Shock Resistant up to 1500G
RAID Support
Compatible with Windows XP, Vista, 7, Mac OS X and Linux
MTBF: 1.5 million hours
3-Year Warranty

Read: Up to 250 MB/s
Write: Up to 180 MB/s
Sustained Write: Up to 100 MB/s

Source;
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-vertex-series-sata-ii-2-5-ssd.html

 

tuηay, in SSDlife could you click the S.M.A.R.T. button and then click no and post a link to the rest of your smart statistics.
e.g. http://online.hddlife.com/ssdlife/a0d6c92a85ee48a9700707604fd665cd

Also, after the drive reaches zero, the meter gets reset to 100%.

 

Here it is my friend, thanks for your time
HDD Life OnLine

EDIT: Link says my drive is 32GB

 

Looks alright to me (besides two bad blocks). Which firmware is your drive actually running at the moment?

Is it the one which is equivalent to Indilinx Barefoot firmware 2030?


SSDlife reports the wrong firmware for both of my SSDs, so that should be nothing to worry about.

 

I did a quick search and it seems that 1.10 is lastest. I have been away from this SSD stuff for a long time.

I do not get what you try to say on the 2nd line

 

Sorry, but anyway I think you're might already be running the latest firmware since your drive reports the updated 5000 P/E cycles estimate instead of the original 10,000.

edit: This OCZ thread reports that 1.6 is the 2030 firmware which is the latest one.


By the way, what are the issues that you are experiencing?

 

SSDLife is reporting correct version for my SSD. Cause I do remember updating it to 1.6 it was pain... It did found 4 updates? It was a balon, now it won't appear...

Hmm, I've did found this;
Guide Vertex and Agilty 1.10 FW through 1.4 FW..

So I've thought that 1.10 was lastest, however,

I'm experiencing sutring. Like, everything just stop working (sometimes not included sound or any kind of music playback [WINAMP]) then everything goes back to normal in 3-4 seconds. My laptop just continue where it left from. This includes everything from surfing, youtube, gaming. I have noticed this issue ALOT in GTA IV this weekend. Huge FPS drop, I got kicked from some servers but did not in other. It is really random and wired or maybe not? 11TB Read and 5TB write is quite alot, isin't it?

 

Any chance that you changed sata drivers recently? Which are you using at the moment? Is your laptop running Windows 7 SP1?
When there is stutter or freeze, what does the hard drive indicator/light look like?

It seems to just read the PE cycle count; average of 4308/5000 cycles.

 

I do not like to change drivers after windows install. So, I've did a clean install on this laptop some time ago and it is still running on that. I've had the same issues on another laptop with same SSD drive, but it was not this bad!

I have not installed SP1 yet, I've downloaded Windows 7 with integrated SP1 but not had time to do a clean install yet.

 

wow, I can't believe you put that much time on your SSD...

 

What do you mean?
I'm not leaving my computer on for fun. I'm using it.

 

Though SSDlife isn't always accurate, that seems like a pretty scary situtation. **goes and runs SSDlife on all my SSDs**

Edit: Wait seems like you've only just run SSDlife. It takes a couple days/weeks for it to feel out the drive and get an accurate estimate.

 

That is right. Well, I can follow it few days, any other good programs you can suggest me to run?

 

Not sure if SSDlife will read Sandforce drives correctly.

That drive has an average of 4308/5000 rated P/E cycles = inverted 14 pecent.


tuηay, which SATA controller does that laptop have? Is it running in ACHI?

 

I do got nVidia chipset, and as far as I can remember from the BIOS, yes it should be ACHI.

Just to make it clear;

 

Vertex 1 AFAIK has an Indilinx controller.

 

I meant for your SSDs.

I suppose that you could try the Microsoft 'Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller' driver if you haven't already. I don't know if that would make things better or worse.

 

From what I know, Microsoft AHCI drivers on nForce chipset gives really bad results...

 

One week later...
Gone down by 1%

 

that's kind of the reason I went with fast HDD rather than SSD. I mean you're using it as you would like and it would go down in 6 months ?!?!?! ...

cant help you here, but if you're going for another SSD then maybe look for SLC version next time. It's a lot more expensive but eventually will not give you problems like this one.

either that ^ or keep replacing MLC SSDs often.

 

5TB in 6 months is not the norm though. That is 800G/month or 25-30G a day. According to Intel's statistic study, it is the top 1%.

You are right that one should match the device to personal usage pattern. Though I think he can continue to use the drive even it goes down to 0%.

 

I'm looking for a new SSD drive; http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-storage/562851-i-need-new-ssd-my-laptop.html

However, don't forget that this drive has about 11TB of read on it, that is quite much...

I hope soo too

 

Maybe get an Intel G2? After 6,7TB SSDLife gives it 99% health

 

Another sign of bad programming? The thing is, I've did not belive those kind of things, I mean this life programs etc. But I have in real life, noticed signs of failuer, so that's why I'm asking...

 

Or good NAND inofficially the Intel NAND supports about 10.000 Life Cycles.

Intel pretty much guarantees 20GB per day over 5 years - you can work out how much that is

On a side note, apparently small sub 4K writes wear a driver out quicker.

 

what do you mean by signs of failure ? your SMART value didn't indicate too much bad cell as far as I can tell.

 

On a side note:
Apparently the health is reported by the SSD itself...
How SSD lifetime are calculated? - OnLine SSDlife

 

Hmm..

I have wrote that somewhere in this therad before, I'm having freezing issues, like when playing games, playing music etc. It just freezez, then after few seconds continues where it left from. But when I do play games, I usualy get kicked because I go under the FPS limit, like in GTA IV

 

the freezing I would say has nothing to do with failure but more like the controller needs to work harder to full fill your request(most like write).

You may try to SE it and see if it can fix the problem.

BTW, you have IMO too little free space which would hurt any SSD with degraded performance and accelerated reduction in endurance.

 

I have 1 month of use so far on my Intel, and 400GB written, it is still at 99% (which it was out of the box). I ALMOST went OCZ, but Intel drive integrity seemed to be reported as much better... I don't regret my decision.

This is a good point.

 

What do you mean by SE?

It seems like I also going to do that;
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...1-i-need-new-ssd-my-laptop-5.html#post7301294

 

so what do you use your SSD for ?

is it for some specific server environment ?

 

make a drive image of your current drive, perform a 'SECURE ERASE'(search on google) then restore the image.

 

Did you do a fresh install of Windows to ensure good partition alignment in the first place? Or at least copy your OS using a tool capable of aligning the drive? If you didn't this could be causing massive write amplification...

 

lol, no that's just my use

Photoshop, movies, music, surfing

 

so this must be the cause then:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...ash-storage/537292-ssd-endurance-big-lie.html

 

Reads don't wear out a SSD, though, so they can be pretty much ignored. The only bit that wears out a drive and reduces life are writes.

 

I see. 5TB of write, I don't know, really, if that is a good or bad thing...

 

-> If you only had 5TB of writes then that's pretty low.

Edit:
no consumer protection institution in Norway that might allow you to get your money back?

 

I'll check on that when I buy the Intel. If so, I do have 2 OCZ SSDs. But, what do you guys think, do you think that this drive has many hours on it?

 

-> The hours count shouldn't matter.

Flash is only affected by write cycles - it doesn't matter if it's on for 1 hour or 20 if you don't write to it.

 

I think I should check this up with OCZ and send them both of my OCZ back.

By the way, added you on youtube

 

It would be interesting to hear their response.

I added you too - Norway... makes me think, you should be able to get some nice footage in winter

 

I'll post the results over here.

Yeah, don't even talk about it! More then enough, we still got snow here, hopefully, summer isin't long away.

 

-> Possibly off topic, but do you ever wish it were winter in summer?
I do... I don't like the heat

And right now I am wondering if I could film something in Sheffield... hmm... I wonder... wonder... wonder...
hmmm

Anyway, I'll look forward to OCZ's reply it should be interesting -> becyause even though you did stress the drive a lot, it's not that much with respect to a reasonable lifetime expectation.
With my 6,7TB of usage I wrote 12GB per day to the drive - maybe a bit more, and 1,5 years isn't a long time with respect to usage.

Edit: No video in Sheffield -> bad weather.

 

I also do like the winter, but not when you must go to school every morning, your car get stuck, busses, trains everything is late. etc.

I'm also intrested to see what OCZ says, I'll email them tomorrow and see. I'll let you guys know

 

That's a valid point - we had some bad snowfall here this winter... UK + snow doesn't mix...

Anyway, it's late.
Good night! And good luck with their reply!!