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    Firepro M6100 into AW 17?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Mastermind5200, Jun 25, 2018.

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    I wont be making any changes any time soon. Assuming my plans work out, I can make that purchase when I can afford to lose it.
     
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    Well, I might be able to save my Ranger, my friend just called and said that he owed me $450 LOL!
     
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    I sold my P157SM-A to my brother last year and still waiting to collect 500 lol. I cant take it back either cause he'll shut down and quit his job or something stupid like that. Was a nice laptop but I couldnt adjust to the keyboard layout. The left ALT key just killed the whole laptop altogether.
     
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    Ouch, that sucks man. You could try to pester him, but if its been this long....
     
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    If its not paid by the time I head out of the country ill just take it with me. I wont have to witness the fallout and then ill just sell it on ebay or something. Not really worried about it. 4900mq / 770m machine Im sure I can find a use for it :p
     
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    Haha nice ;)

    You might be able to use that as a new plex server
     
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    Honestly the Ranger would be better for it. 9TB fits internally on platter drives. The m4600 worked well enough due to the flat panel frame (2 HDD's mounted on it) but may interfere with cooling mods I had in mind. Who knows lol

    I didnt spend much time with the P157SM-A, I hated the keyboard layout that much, it sat on the floor for a few months while I continued using the m4600 (which had the m5100 OCed to 850m levels) I dont think it can use the 5TB 15mm drive which would be a deal breaker. Who knows, all just thoughts in the air at the moment.
     
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    wait holdup "mounted to the side" really now? Any photos I can see?
    IMO the ranger would probably be better for it, assuming you can fit the 5TB drives in the cages, the ODD should be fine though, maybe a SATA splitter and mount two in there if your cooling mods don't need it or don't happen, but otherwise you 3 2.5 slots, mSATA, and a DMC slot if you can even find a card for it
     
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    I didnt say mounted on the side, I had the additional drives mounted on top of the m4600 and taped to the panel frame, powered by a powered USB 3.0 A hub. Looks sloppy but is portable in 30 seconds and in the pack ready for transport. I have a USB Wireless 300 N router, USB ODD and 2x 2.5" HDD's mounted to the top of the m4600 at present.

    The Ranger can house the drives internally due to the ODD bay, no need for external drives. The 5TB 15mm drive fits almost perfectly with the rubber feet included with the drive. You can buy it either bare drive 189 USD or the external (which uses the same drive) for 130 USD, can be found on Amazon.

    I have a mSATA to USB 3.0 A port adapter for the DMC slot, I had planned to mod the powered hub to the center rear of the frame. I will wait on that until I get back on my feet though. Dont want to be hacking up my daily driver until I take care of other things going on first
     
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    My bad oops. I bet its portable.

    Can you link the 5TB HDD?
    EDIT: This?
    https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Port...e=UTF8&qid=1531881233&sr=8-6&keywords=5tb+hdd

    How did you get a mSATA to USB, and how did you get it to work in the DMC? Does the DMC use PCIE?
     
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    I havent tested the DMC yet, I tried using it in the m4600 but it prevented it from booting. Havent used in the Ranger, its a lot to take apart and after the failed 980m and 1070 upgrade I was tired of tearing it down. Nothing against the seller but both cards werent sealed in the anti static bag and just plopped around in the box until I got it. Refunded me though. Anyways the adapter was bought off ebay. mSATA cant power the additional ports on the hub so it had to be powered, was planning to wire it to one of the right USB ports, as my mouse sits next to the laptop I never use them.

    https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-2-5-Inch-Internal-ST5000LM000/dp/B01M0AADIX
    That is the bare drive. I didnt purchase this as they were selling the external HDD for much cheaper, for w/e reason and still are.

    https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Port...01LZP2B23/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
    I BELIEVE this is the correct listing, but the model number is different, I'd go through the comments and make sure, but enclosure is the same. I dont run games or anything on it, its where I store my Anime for the Plex server.
     
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    Very interesting. Yeah, this is probably the most annoying laptop to teardown to get to the mSATA/DMC card ever lol.
    So wait, does mSATA work in the DMC? PCIE Cards? The only thing I could find was a WiHD broadcaster, seem useless to me

    Yeah that was the one I found, might check it out when I get a P870xxx
     
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    That all depends on the machine, worked on R4 and m18x R1/R2 I think if its SATA linked then probably wont work but if its USB linked then there is hope.
     
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    hm might try it out but its late rn
     
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    mSATA SSD is too large, there are components in the way. Not sure if the adapter will fit to be honest, need to look for a USB cable with a small footprint or wire directly to the adapter...that actually might be a good idea
     
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    Bit of odd issue.

    I can switch into PEG mode just fine but cant cold boot into PEG. I guess ill just use SG for now.
     
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    A shame. I don't really notice the lag either way, I don't really play games on here too often, don't have an adequate PSU and my desktop is literally a foot away from my bed, albeit in pieces on a cardboard box
     
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    I dont have desktops anymore, tired of having to sell or trade them for next to nothing when I go out of the country.
     
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    Same! Thats why I'm parting mine out, I kept the SSDs, the case is going in the trash, too cheap to matter, all other essentials are going to my laptop fund. Assuming I can keep the ranger, I'll do my best to get a M390x and put it in the ranger and tell you the results
     
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    I keep getting occasional system hangs, started happening after the 780m died.

    Maybe I need to do a fresh install, tried using the refresh after the 780m died the first time but maybe its not a good idea as I thought it was.

    Yeah I like the idea of using the w7170m until I get another eDP panel in the future. I still plan to sell my 120hz panel, cant stand Glossy panels.
     
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    The same thing happened to me when my 765m started dying, a reinstall and DDU fixed it

    Yeah, the W7170m seems to be nice
     
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    Oh I mean a win10 fresh install. I have already reinstalled and DDU this morning to get the GPUz working.

    I had the same vBIOS .49993 or something
     
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    I think because its a later revision GPU, it doesn't want to bios flash.
     
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    More likely its because we are on different platforms from the m6800 and m6100. IIRC he had to tailor make them via HEX editing.

    I cleaned up my registry and havent hanged yet. Was hanging about every 20-30 minutes and its been behaving for an hour or so now. Must've been an issue not directly related to the GPU. Heres hoping...
     
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    Its probably fine now, thats basically what happened to me with my 765m
     
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    Nope just hanged, I can move my mouse but system is unresponsive. Maybe I should replace the bracket with that of my 780m and just pull off the shield.

    Going to throw on some walking dead and do that now.

    Replaying the same mission in Ace Combat 5 can get a bit old even with nostalgia feels lol
     
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    I feel you man.

    Lucky me, I got a person to buy a few parts of mine for enough to sway me into keeping the Ranger (parts were worth $480, my ranger had an offer for $500) so now I can have best of both worlds!
     
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    Nice, even if its not your Daily driver, its still an excellent system. Even as a backup or secondary machine.

    Replaced the bracket, idles temps are 33C and load temps are 64C I think load temps are higher than the 780m because its more heat on a smaller surface area comparative to the 780m with its larger die.

    Which driver version do you have for the Intel HD? I wasnt able to overclock the panel with the driver version I had even though they supposedly added that function in the last year or so.

    Gonna give it another go and see if the system hangs again.
     
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    NGL, its probably going straight to my little brother, he lives with me, or I'll probably buy him a cheap M6800 and throw a few upgrades in and call it a day

    My idle temps are around 45c, load temps are 80c-95c, may be due to California's really hot weather and just my general inability to repaste it with high quality paste

    I just use the driver 20.19.15.4835 from the CRU website, date October 2017. You can't use the Intel Graphics Properties to OC the panel, you need CRU
     
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    Cru requires peg if the Intel HD can't support it, it's why people had been harassing Intel for years getting that functionality that was sold with that included. I've been using Cru for years, that and throttlestop are like PB&J lol

    It's been 110 here in Texas but I have central A/C. Most homes didn't have that in California since the weather had been so nice (was born and raised there) but I'm also using 11.2cfm fan and 5 pipe Copper heatsink.
     
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    It works fine on here, never tried it on a desktop though

    Yeah, its been around mid 80s (fahrenheit ofc) and with my ceiling fan and desk fan at max, its cool enough. I use the stock fan and stock 100W nvidia heatsink
     
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    Ok finally got it to stop crashing my system.

    I cleaned up the MXM connector and also the slot on the motherboard with alcohol and it hasnt crashed since I had done that maybe 4-5 hours ago now.

    Still though, I cant boot PEG at all. Another fun fact is now I cant install Command Center either. Also freefall sensor wont query up correctly when I install the driver. ( I had reinstalled Windows 10 )

    I can live with SG for now, only playing GameCube and Playstation 2 games anyways. Maybe MGSV:TPP here and there.
     
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    My motion sensor never was able to install properly, odd. I'm currently booted with 8950m only
     
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    Yeah I cant boot PEG and I also cant use the right Intel HD driver for panel OC.

    Ill just cut my losses on that one, just need an operational daily driver at this point lol
     
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    Sucks man, and you did try the one from the CRU page?
     
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    Wont install, system didnt meet parameters or some such dribble
     
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    Thats very weird, and probably the source of your problems. As well, I have decided to get rid of the Ranger and get a Viking instead, so this is probably the last day I have with it
     
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    Was never really interested in the viking, too many limitations. The m18x r2 is much better presently, can handle 500w if I remember correctly but it's been a while since I've read that content. Dual gpu is a coin toss and doesn't work with emulators so it's just a non starter.

    Hope you like it though
     
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    Honestly, I hope I do too. I may not go specifally for the Viking, instead for the M18X R2, as it's parts can be found cheaper, or maybe the R1. I'm just happy that somebody actually bought my Ranger for $535 lol I only paid $300 for it. Yeah, dual GPU is kind of a mixed bag, but that games me and my brother play support it very well (GTA V) or don't need more than an iGPU
    As well with the viking, it has more potential than the Ranger, but is held back by other limitations from reaching that (330W hard limit and no Optimus for SLI, but thats a given)
     
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    It has about the same potential GPU wise as the Ranger. As SLI still doesnt work on Pascal, you cant run SLI off of SG mode which is the only way to get Pascal working on that platform.

    MSI 1070 = 980m SLI (with perfect scaling)

    Ah GTA5, I stopped caring about that game after 4. GFWL burned me from that brand for life. 235 profit eh? Not bad not bad
     
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    Eh, the 1070 can work in the Viking, but it's a little unorthodox, and SLI isn't entirely off the table, the owner is trying to do a 4K eDP mod, but its pretty far fetched. Right now, I'm deciding on a Viking with a 4700MQ dual M290x's 16GB RAM 500GB 850 Evo 1TB HDD or a P377SM-A Barebones with 120HZ screen. Probably going to go for the latter, as it includes all SLI componenets, and my brother and I use external keyboards and mouses anyways.

    Yeah, I feel you. I like playing around it just for the sheer amount of sandbox fun TBH
     
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    Yeah it was a fun game to be sure, I just like strong narratives if its just me but if some friends were over GTA is a good laugh.

    P377SM-A hands down. No sketchy modding needed for 1070 SLI either if I recall another members system correctly. Though that might've been the P370EM (third gen iteration). Better to go with barebones to build your own system as opposed to cycling parts, but you seem to have a good resale on your system lol
     
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    As well, the barebones is only $400 shipped vs $700 for the AW 18, and it has an offer button:eek:
    Probably going to put a cheap i3 and the 8950m in it, its only going to my little brother.

    NGL the older GTA's were such fun to play, almost reminds me of Saints Row, which is much much cruder

     
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    m290x's just like their younger iterations (7970m) tend to burn out. Its why after discovering that the w7170m was a thing I never spent another thought on the m290x
     
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    Y'know what? I might even get a W7170M for rhe P377SM-A
     
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    No no, dont do that.

    Well, first find out if it has the eDP signal otherwise you're likely to experience some frustration
     
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    Hmmmmmmm you are right. Down the road, maybe its in my future. If I have money leftover, I'll snag a M6800 (workstation equivalant to the ranger) and W7170M and test it out, or maybe find a Ranger itself
     
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    This is untrue. I've had 8970Ms and R9 M290x run for a long time without problem, even later revision 7970M. Only early 7970M had early deaths due to new 28nm process, AMD had some teething issues. W7170M is NOT the same as the 7970M/8970M/M290X. These three are based off Pitcairn/Wimbledon core. W7170M is based on R9 280X aka Tahiti from Tonga series/GCN 3.0 architecture.
     
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    8970M is the stablest of the bunch IMO, but yeah the 7970m/M290x is fine, but it has a shorter lifespan on average compared to most GPU's.

    Yeah, we know the W7170M isn't the same as the 7970m, is based off of the 7970(R9 380X revision) desktop core funnily enough
     
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    Never said they were the same. If you can find out where I said that I'll edit the post but I have 0 recollection of such a claim.
     
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