Adata N005 (top model)
Kingston DataTraveler Ultimate 3.0 (top model)
Super Talent - Several Model with various speeds.
And other.
Most speed and capacity devices will not work from conventional usb 2.0 in 100% cases.
Model with various capacity have various speed. Most of 8-16 gb have low small block speed. 64gb model near SSD in usb 3.0 enclosure. Buying with out studing review is risky in computers world.
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CrystalDiskMark results hover at your exact speeds
My test results confirm the significant speed increases with the AKE USB 3.0 card adapter:
1) transferring a 2GB movie from a RAM disk (to eliminate any lags associated with my internal hard drive, also give the highest possible speed of my USB 3.0 combo), confirms the CrystalDiskMark results (20s for a 2GB file = 100MB/s). Same tests done through USB 2.0 give me speeds that are about 3.5 slower (about 29MB/s)
2) Under real-world conditions in my system, transferring about 90GB of typical files files one would have on his hard drives, on an empty Iomega eGO from my internal Seagate Momentus 320GB drive, I get average speeds of 45MB/s on USB 3.0 and the same drive on USB 2.0 gives an average speed of 21MB/s. Basically, I timed the transfers in seconds and did the division.
Your results confirm:
1) that internal hard drives are the bottleneck in any system. Real world USB 3.0 speed are going to be significantly affected my how fast your internal hard drive is.
2) that CrystalDiskMark tests are accurate as far as giving pure results for a drive.
3) that the AKE cards offers excellent performance and are only limited by the system [see my note about the Iomega eGO at the end of my post]. In other words, they are as fast as your system's lowest common denominator. I do not think from these results that the PCI interface speed limit of 2.5Gb/s (300MB/s) has any influence over the results you may obtain on your system.
In summary, I confirm your results and your findings: that the speed increase is in the range of approximately 2-3 times that which can be attained using the on-board 2.0 ports, and that this speed increase is only limited by your system's lowest common denominator.
In other wortds... The AKE branded USB 3.0 adapter seems to be a "two thumbs up" upgrade well worth the $20 street price.
Note: One thing that also comes out of my testing with the iOmega eGo BlackBelt, mostly in HDTune (I was never able to conclude one single ErrorScan), CrystalDiskMark and also on one of my transfer tests, your tests with the AKE card and the similarity of results I get with either of the two AKE cards I have, tell this:
1) that my Iomega eGO BlackBelt drive is flaky
2) the randomness of the stoppage indicates it is unlikely to be an actual surface defect of the drive itself (internally a Samsung HM100UI), but more likely a problem with the enclosure electronics or the cable itself (After discussion of the problem with an Iomega CSR, Iomega is sending me a replacement cable). -
In my opinion, this port is there only because the card has two USB 3.0 ports and is mainly designed as a backup, should one use TWO devices on the card at the same time.
If you are willing to wait until cards with the updated u720PD chip come out (sorry can't remember the exact number - it's the 'A' version), which are claimed to use 85% less power than the current ones, you will definitely have much more power available from the ExpressCard port. Maybe these new cards won't need an extra power port under certain conditions, like the current ones do. -
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Realize low power consumption during idle state
µPD720200A realizes 1/5 power consumption comparing with µPD720200 during the system like as PC is working and not connected any USB devices. -
I have a problem installing the AKE USB 3.0 express card purchased from here using the most recent driver found here. I'm running Windows 7 x64, and it won't recognize the card. I've tried installing the driver and then plugging in the card, installing the driver with the card plugged in, and plugging in the card and then installing the driver via the .exe and through Device Manager manually, but nothing works. The computer detects the card's presence, but doesn't know what to do with it.
Am I missing a step or doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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got my USB 3.0 Expresscard Adaptor coming from America
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Got the flush ebay card today. Fits really well in my m1330
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Okay, I figured out the problem detailed in my earlier post: the chipset in my AKE card is apparently made by Fresco Logic, explaining why all my attempts to get the card and the NEC drivers on speaking terms were futile.
The (outdated) FL drivers from the included driver CD worked, so I dug around a bit online for more updated drivers and found some here:
FRESCO LOGIC
I assume v3.0.110.12 is the latest driver, but I could be wrong. As for the card itself...
Well, at least it sticks out only as much as my mouse's nano receiver.Good enough for me.
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That is strange ... I would not expect one company (AKE) to carry two different chipsets...
But come to think of it, I'm not too surprised, considering they have NO instructions with their adapters and just give you ALL the drivers you may or may not require and let you guess what to install... So chosing the cheapest solution is probably what they did with this single port adapter...
As a matter of fact, the Fresco Logic chipset allows for only ONE port, whereas the Renesas chipset can control 2, and it's also cheaper. So it all adds up, and it also tells us that the 54mm version, with its dual ports, cannot be using the Fresco Logic chipset, which means it must be using the Renesas chipset (like we figured out by trial and error!)...
Hope it helps future buyers!
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So it's obvious the USB 3.0 card only has limited power available for devices and those that require that power, such as the Iomega eGO portable, come with a Y cable precisely because they need that extra power. So if you get lockups even with the Y cable connected as you should, don't blame the card, it's likely you've got a bad cable.
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Wow, I did not expect this post to get this large. Well I just ordered the AKE USB 3.0 34mm expresscard. Hopefully it works well and from what I read here, it looks like most people are getting at least double the speed of USB 2.0 which is good enough for me especially for the price I paid for it.
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Hi guys, I've been in the market for a USB 3.0 express card with a flush design ever since I got a new 1TB USB 3.0 Seagate Ultra Portable GoFlex drive.
I initially bought this one at Amazon.com:
Amazon.com: Syba SY-EXP20057 USB 3.0 Invisible Design Inserts into Laptop Completely Slim ExpressCard/34mm: Electronics
It used the Fresco FL1000 chipset and worked fairly well for a usb flash drive, but it did not have enough juice to power my goflex drive. My goflex drive is usb bus powered so it has no aux power input and neither does this card I bought.
After reading all 17 pages of this thread, I'm wondering if I should buy the AKE 3.0 Expresscard (34mm) that sits flush since a lot of you have had success using it with your portable drives w/o external power. However, aside from the AKE label on the front and back, it looks exactly like the Syba one I bought on Amazon.
Then I saw that someone mentioned the shentek one which sits flush, is 34mm and has an aux power. Unfortunately it is $32 on ebay compared with the $18 for the AKE.
Here is the link to some auctions of it on ebay:
UPD720200 items - Get great deals on Computers Networking items on eBay.com!
I'm looking only at the ones that sit flush.
What do you guys recommend? Going with the AKE and risk it also not being able to power my drive, or try the shentek and if it doesn't power my drive, use the supplied aux cable that attaches to a USB2 port? -
Therefore, because the AKE 34mm card does not have such a port, and from the problems I experienced with the 54mm version when just connected to the USB 3.0 port, I do not recommend the AKE 34mm card to resolve your issue. Essentially, you'll be getting the same bloody card (the AKE 34mm is powered by the same chipset as your first card).
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83bj60, thanks for the reply. I know it did not have enough power because my drive's led came on, but the drive did not get detected by Windows and after a minute the led started blinking rapidly in a way that indicated an error. It runs fine if I plug it into a usb 2.0 port. ALso, connecting a USB 3.0 flash drive to my expresscard worked. So I can only assume the card did not provide the full 900ma of USB 3.0 power or that my laptop did not have enough juice on the mobo to give that to the expresscard.
The Shentek card makes the most sense since it has a aux power input from a usb2 port, but I thought someone else on here got it and said they couldn't get it to work?
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So if you are going to use drives that do not supply their own power, using an expresscard adapter you will need to either supply the extra power through a dual headed cable (such as comes with the Iomega eGo), or supply the extra power to the card (as supplied with the AKE 54mm card, or the Shentek 34MM card)
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I went directly to Iomega's site and started a live chat session to get this excellent service.
It did help that I had two identical cards to test it with, and two different laptops laptop to test it with, to eliminate those variables and get to a fast resolution. The fact the other portable drive you tried worked well confirms it's not the card.
Good luck!
BTW, Iomega has an update on the encryption utility. The new version is supposed to allow you to remove the irritating CD partition -
Seagate GoFlex 1TB Portable External USB 3.0 Hard Drive (STAA1000101) : External Portable Hard Drives - Future Shop
Yes, it worked w/o connecting any external power - the Seagate only had a single-end connector and I used only this, not the Y-cable from my Iomega. So, the whole time it was only connected to the AKE Expresscard/34 USB3.0 port and in 3hrs+ of copying (at speeds of 55-80MB/s) it never once so much as hiccuped.
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gonna give this a try now...
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Re the encryption utility; I downloaded the update and followed the instructions (from the Iomega website) to remove the partition. The utility informed me it was 'updating the drive...' and the windows circular rotating "something's still happening" icon persisted..and persisted... I waited about 45 mins. Still the same. Seems like whatever process was supposed to be going on had hung ang the Iomega drive had disppeared.
Eventually I end-tasked the utility unplugged and replugged the drive. Was it now dead? I rebooted the laptop I was using and plugged into my desktop. Phew! Windows (XP on this machine) said it was installing drivers then the drive appeared but with no prompt to view it. But no odd virtual CD appears so it seems to be gone.
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Thanks for the update, Man! Glad you could get your cable sent with no issues, hope it resolves your issue like it did mine. At least we know the AKE USB 3.0 ExpressCard adpter is a good choice.
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Re the cable - the tech said it was a 'single plug' device so not a y-cable. He said this was the 'right cable for the drive' so presumably they think the drive shouldn't need additional power - certainly if it's plugged into a built-in USB3.0 port I guess it shouldn't. But maybe (?) if it's to a regular USB2.0 port, or an expresscard it still might. We'll see when it arrives.
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I cant see it sticking out at all. (the ake one)
just a couple of things.
I cant push the card out by pressing on it but it removes easily when i try to unplug a device.. the whole thing comes out.
also are you guys attaching it with the usb..power thing all the time? or only when needed.
thanks
going to DL drivers now
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eek it isnt working.
Downloaded the latest NEC drivers
downloaded fresco logic drivers for lulz.
Anyone have any idea.
i plugged in my ipod to it and it doesnt even charge
thing is i dont even know if it is sitting properly. i can hear a click in but then i can just drag it out by pulling the ipod wire out (and the card follows it)
nah something is happening since when i pull the ipod wire out or in it lights up
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I'm guessing people know about this?
Area EP54U32-W1 USB 3.0 ExpressCard delivers dual ports -
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The Iomega eGo comes with a cable that has both a USB 3.0 plug and a small small auxiliary USB 2.0 power take off cable and it works well like that.
I just finished testing the Iomega with its secondary cable disconnected, to see whether the AKE power cable did actually supply extra power, and I experienced no lockups, so I know it does.
In my opinion, it is supplied as an extra source of power should you need it, if you drive is marginal and didn't come with an extra power cable, if you don't have a USB 2.0 port nearby (the AKE power cable can reach all the way to the other side of the laptop) or if you connect two drives on the card at the same time.
In conclusion: If you laptop has a 54mm expresscard slot, get this card. 2 USB 3.0 ports and a power cable, it's a bargain compared to the other cards out there. And if you must get a 34mm ExpressCard adapter, preferably get one with a power port and power take off cable like the AKE has.
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lol 83bj60
youre a legend
Also i cant DL the new driver for some reason.. its like a loop
i click on the download button and it takes me to station drivers .com
sad face
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Answer version 2: "There's an app for that"
Awww... nevermind... I just research and test the heck of most everything I buy, and like to share what I find. That's what the internet is all about
Yes, it needs more power than the Seagate GoFlex, we've seen the results of not connecting it to ample power, and the cable is short and proprietary, so your choice of placement is a bit limited, but no biggie. In any case, it is rated to survive a 7 foot fall, it's fast enough, the company seems to have good customer service, it has a three year warranty, and the price was right... So there you have it in a nutshell...
Read the reviews, I wrote one on the dell.ca site (would not buy again from them, though, as their service level is sub-par, they don't give service for the non Dell branded items they sell). Iomega has since fixed its number 1 complaint (non removable partition - you can now remove it if you like - get the updated encryption utility from their site), so, in my books, it's a winner. And as far as hardware is concerned, they seem to have good external drives, I have 3 other ones, internally all Samsungs, and apart from one that failed in the first week during testing (you could say it was DOA, it quickly developed bad sectors, but it was replaced immediately by futureshop), they have been working fine. I've had them from three to 9 months, I use them for archival purposes, so they're not on all the time.
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The tech at Iomega said the new connector would not be a 'Y' one, i.e. my understanding that it would only have one end to plug into the laptop (and the other into the drive itself). But we'll see when it arrives...
The AKE/34 card I have has no additional power plug so I'll be out of luck if it is a single-end USB3.0 only connector and it does not work. Here's the transcript of my support session with the Iomega tech. I must say I'm very impressed with the Iomega support facilities so far.
[05:15:20 PM] Todd: I am sorry that you are having this issue, Do you have both ends of the USB cable plugged into the comptuer
[05:15:40 PM] ME: Yes, I have one via USB3 and the other to a free USB port
[05:15:46 PM] ME: usb2.0 port
[05:16:17 PM] Todd: Your computer has both 2.0 and 3.0 USB ports
[05:16:31 PM] ME: Yes
[05:16:49 PM] ME: 1xUSB3.0 and 3xUSB2.0
[05:16:52 PM] Todd: Have you tired to just plug it into 2 2.0 ports
[05:17:28 PM] ME: Yes but I haven't tried copying much data this way as it's much slower than USB 3.0 which is the whole point of getting this drive
[05:17:57 PM] Todd: ok one min I am going to check on something
[05:18:04 PM] ME: I also tested another USB3.0 portable drive (a seagate) and this had no problems
[05:18:18 PM] ME: sure thing...
[05:20:55 PM] Todd: Ok, I just need your shipping address so a I can send you the USB 3.0 single cable that should have came with the drive
[05:23:13 PM] ME: Great! Shipping address as follows
[05:23:57 PM] ME.....
[05:24:22 PM] ME: So this cable only has one end? It's not a Y-cable?
[05:24:35 PM] Todd: Thank you I will get that setup after the chat is closed and send you a email with the information. Yes that is correct
[05:25:16 PM] ME: Is the existing cable faulty then, or just the wrong one? Curious
[05:25:54 PM] Todd: It should work, but with one end in the 3.0 and one in a 2.0 I think the drive is just having a issue
[05:26:13 PM] ME: I also tried it with just the USB3.0 end connected - same problem
[05:26:44 PM]ME: It seems the drive gets enough power from just the USB3.0 port, but I connected the other end just in case this was the issue...
[05:27:09 PM] Todd: I believe this cable will correct your issue, it is the cable for the drive
[05:27:14 PM] ME: so both with and without additional USB2.0 connection - same problem. Random disconnects
[05:27:36 PM] ME: OK, sounds great! I'll give it a try when it arrives. Thanks v much for your help Todd.
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A question... Have you noticed that the drive vibrates slightly when you touch it? Its otherwise very silent...
If the drive indeed is bad, be sure to report back on the return process. Hope they send you a shipping box, shipping to California can be expensive from Canada.
Thread specific content: although from the same brand, we can confirm the 34mm version of the AKE USB 3.0 card uses a totally different chipset, Fresco Logic versus the 54mm's NEC/Renesas. The other difference being the smaller card has no power in port, but the Fresco Logic chipset also uses less power, so presumably has more available for the drive and may not need one. -
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Finally flush. I'll wait a while until one comes out without any kinks.
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The replacement cable from Iomega (allegedly 'the right cable' for the drive) is just the same as the one it came with - a Y-cable with a USB3.0 AND a USB2.0 end.
Behaviour is the same as with the original cable, although it's gotten worse. Now invariably almost immediately I try to copy to/from the drive it disconnects saying the drive location does not exist. It's odd that it's worse - at first I quite happily copied a lot of data to/from the drive with only the odd disconnect - no it's totally unuseable via USB3.0
No such problems with the Seagate GoFlex, so I'd recommend this at the mo if anything.
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I have an older 1TB drive I got really cheap (at the time) from Walmart, turns out it is a WD inside. This drive has been a real workhorse. Not one single SMART warning, and it's been schlepped atround quite a bit... I've always have had good experiences with WD drives... Seagate is also good, there is an 80GB Seagate in my old Win98 machine, super quiet (even now!) fluid drive. Just don't try to start it when it's very cold, though, it simply won't(ie don't start it right away if it's been in cold storage, let it get to room temp)
.. Why don't you try getting a NEC based card instead and see if that helps?
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Same drive on USB 2.0 shows like this, notice how it is limited by the USB 2.0 interface:
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. Do you think that the expresscard is the most likely reason for this?
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The FL card and the Seagate drive and my machine seemed to like each other fine.
I've got another machine with an expresscard port 54 - an older HP Dv6 - so I'll give it a try in this.
I can't really mark the Iomega down on this evidence and I'll probably keep it and try another card like you say at some point - it's works fine via USB2.0 but it would be nice having it run at it's potential. It's early days for my foray into USB3.0 territory yet -
Because it had first happened shortly after I had updated the firmware on one card, and after it started doing the same on the non updated card afterwards, I thought maybe my drive was flaky, but I have since replaced the cable so this time, I looked more into it, and a clean reboot with the card out cleared it up.
Have a look at this:
and this, after a clean reboot without the expresscard:
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It is pictured here with the Iomega eGo Blackbelt 1TB USB 3.0 cable attached, the AKE card USB 2.0 port Power Take Off cable (whcih I don't really need since the Iomega already has its own USB 2.0 power take off cable) and part of the Iomega eGo Blackbelt showing on the right. On the top left, my other AKE card, with the indentations I made for more secure attachment to USB cables. Connections are solid enough that I can actually pull the card out of the slot without assist if I want, simply by pulling the attached cable
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my 54mm AKE USB 3.0 expresscard finally came today
only took 30 days delivery lol
oh well its here and installed now
Flush USB 3.0 Expresscard Adapter
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