GL40 Chipset CPU compatibility?

Yes, a T9300-2.5 is GL40 compatible. However, can get a T8300-2.4 for $46 on ebay making it better value than the cheapest T9300 at $78. If wanting maximum performance then consider a $170 X9100 (unlocked multipliers) that can be pinmodded to work on a GL40/965PM chipset. See http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...intel-gl960-gl40-useful-info-pll-modders.html confirmed by user "no-tech" on a 965PM (800Mhz 965PM) here.

 

Thanks a lot nando4, i really appreciate your prompt and wise advise...have a great time...

 

HI again guyz, just confirming that the Core 2 Duo T9300 do works and works very well in the Compaq presario CQ61 series laptops (mine is CQ61 210TU).

I replaced T3100 (GL40 Chipset, 35 v, 800 MHz FSB, 1mb Cache) with T9300 (35v, 800 MHz, 6mb cache) and the results are superb. Now the vista index was up from 4.9 to 5.4 & the after upgrading the machine to Win 7 Ultimate, the Win Experience index for processor was 6.1. Dont forget to flash your BIOS to latest version before swapping CPU.

The idle temp with little browsing and wifi ON are 23-24 for both cores and since new installation, temps havn't gone above 35c so far.(I used Arctic Silver 5 while changing CPU & cleaned fan very well). I have posted a couple of images for the CPU.

My Machine is Flying now and and very happy with this upgrade. Thanks to all you guyz for your posts & help.

 

Hello,

I have a Packard Bell SL35-U-034 with Intel Pentiuml Dual Core @2,16GHz and I would like to upgrade CPU, what's the best choice ?
Chipset onboard is Intel GL 40.

Thanks a lot.

 

Hi guys, bought a used emachine e525-2632 laptop off of craigslist recently for a really cheap price.....works fine for what it is...

intel celeron 900, 2.2 ghz , 2x1gb pc3-8500 memory, gl40, 250gb, webcam, win7 home premium.....great deal for 50 bucks

have just ordered 2x2gb DD3 , and a dual core T4500 CPU..........pretty sure the ram will work.........not sure about the cpu.....not a heck of a lot online about that upgrade, any ideas ?

 

yay, it worked !! got the new CPU today........works great.......memory too !!! so much faster

 

Hi, I have a HP CQ60-210TU with T1600 (dual-core celeron 65nm merom 667fsb)

I have updated the BIOS to latest f.65

See attached screenshots below.

Does anyone know what CPUs I can upgrade to? Id like a non-celeron (for speedstep battery life) and a bit more speed.

Will 45nm CPUs like T8xxx series work? Can I use 800fsb or 1067fsb CPUs ?(current CPU is 667fsb)

Will all these work?

http://ark.intel.com/compare/37251,33916,29760,39311

Ideally Id like:

P8xxx as they are 25w TDP so should have great battery life , also they are fast according to benchmarks, its 1067fsb though if that matters.

or

T8xxx as its cheap and the T6xxx and T4xxx have some disabled power saving tech but I dont know how much that affects battery life at idle or low load typical use.

 

Hi guys, will a t9300 work with a lenovo g530 gl40 chipset? if it wont, please let me know the fastest cpu that will be compatible with it. Thanks in advance!

 

It will work out of the box witout any mod. Lenovo G530 supports CPUs with an FSB of 667 and 800MHz. I tried a T7500 in one and it worked like a dream.

The G530 I had access to had a T4300 which I thought was a very capable CPU. Are you sure that your bottleneck is not elsewhere? Slow HDD? Or not enough RAM?

 

You can't use a P8xxx without the mod, and even with the mod it might not work. So without any mod your options are:
T9300, T9500,
T8100, T8300,
T7100, T7250, T7300, T7500, T7700, T7800,
T6500, T6600, T6570,
T5250, T5450, T5550, T5800, T5870
T4200, T4300, T4400, T4500,
...etc

 

@Naton - Thanks for the prompt reply. My g530 came with a t3400 and i maxed the ram to 4gb ddr2 667. I still have the stock 250gb hdd 5400rpm though. Im planning to put a t9300 or even a t9500(if i find a good deal). With my current specs, will i get a significant performance boost after the cpu upgrade? Would a t8300(since its a lot cheaper) give me a performance boost close to t9300? Any suggestions for a more cost effective upgrade will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 

You might as you might not see a performance boost. It all depends on the software running in your laptop. To keep it short, you'll see a significant boost from a CPU upgrade if you use rendering, photo editing, video editing, or virtual drive apps such as VMware. For anything else (at least in my opinion) the money spent on a CPU upgrade is better spent elsewhere, such as a faster HDD.

Also, and this is something to keep in mind, doing a fresh installation of Windows always helps speeding up a slow computer for no cost

 

Will keep that in mind. Thanks Naton!

 

As has been discussed here at length, you're pretty much stuck with 800MHz FSB for GL40 chipset. T8100/T8300 are fairly cheap. T4200/T4300 are well under $10 each on eBay, shipped. T4400/T4500 are too close in price to consider when T8100's are fetching $20-$30 tops. I don't think the added cache in the T9300/T9500 is worth the $70-$100 price point at this time.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, the 2.1GHz Pentium dual core T4300 in my Extensa 5230E (originally Celeron 900 2.2GHz single core) is plenty fast, even today. Keeps up just fine with the i3-370M's in my oldest daughter's computers. The Passmark score might be almost double what I have, but the laptop boots as fast, browses as fast, plays DVD's without skipping, even when hooked to a 24" 1920x1080 display. It's all good. $10 shipped for a T4300 and if you're on a single-core now, you will absolutely not believe the different a $10 processor swap makes. Use Arctic Silver 5 or another known good thermal paste and you're in business. Yes, you'll lose battery life, but I've had this T4300 in since it was brand new, my laptop spent its first year always plugged in, used as a desktop, and now 2.5 years into its time with me, I can still get 2h45m on battery in Windows 7 and about 3h5m in Ubuntu 10.10 which is about to become unsupported so I'm waiting for 12.04 to be released and then I'll go with that. Maybe drop a T8100 in while I'm at it?

 

Leaning to get a t8300. Thanks guys!

 

I totally agree with you and I'll even go one step further. At present I'm going backward and forward between two computers, an old laptop with an AMD Sempron and a netbook with an Atom N270. Both CPUs score about 1/5th of the T4300, and to be honest they are providing me with enough horsepower for everyday use. I even use them with photoshop every now and then to light touch digital photographs.

P.S.
Both computer are running Win 7 and both have 1GB of RAM with VRAM included.

 

T4200/T4300/T4500/T6500/T6600/T6670 all have SuperLFM and IDA disabled so cannot be undervolted to the 0.925/0.95V range nor dual-IDA overclocked (gain an extra multiplier on Dell bios, others need modded bios) like a T8100/T8300/T9300/T9500 can. I consider the undervolting important for battery life so would pay the few $$ more for a T8100/T8300.

 

It all depends on how you use your laptop. Mine is always plug-in so battery life is not an issue.

Nando, I used a T4200 and a T4300 before and they both undervolt all the way down to 0.95v. Did you mean in the above that they don't undervolt all the way to 0.85v since they don't have SuperLFM?

 

Did you see 0.95V in Throttlestop or RMClock? RMclock gives lower numbers. I was quoting Throttlestop.

Last time I used a T6600 it could only undervolt to 1.0xx range. Certainly nowhere near the 0.925-0.95V SuperLFM range of the T8xxx CPUs. If yours is truly down to 0.95V then it's pretty impressive. Though consider the CPU doesn't come with SuperLFM so no way of knowing how low Intel have set the lowest voltage on them. AFAIK, those T4xxx/T6xxx CPUS are the same die as premium Penryns (T8xxx) with half the cache, SuperLFM and IDA disabled. So likely they failed as premium Penryns and where binned as the budget Penryns.

 

I was thinking about RMclock. I don't understand how you can get different vcore between RMclock and Throttlestop since the max and min vcore are read directly from the CPU. Mind explaining?

Honestly lower Vcores don't make a lot of difference. There is a benefit if you go from e.g. 1.25 to 1.1v, but not much advantage between 0.95 and 0.85v. At the lower range dropping the voltage further only helps drop the CPU temperature by 1 or 2c. A difference in temperature of 1c means that the power consumption and heat dissipation is about the same between before and after decreasing the vcore. Isn't it?

Also there is another factor to be taken into consideration. Every batch of CPUs is different. I've used several T7300. One used 0.85 in SuperLFM, while the 2 or 3 other used 0.925v. The temperature was about the same in all three and the power consumption was also about the same. I didn't notice any improvement in battery life between the T7300 that could go as low as 0.85v and those that could go only as low as 0.925v.

Isn't the T8100 and T8300 about a year older than the T4000 and the T6000 series? I'm sure that the T4000 series were designed from day one as T4000 series. Their diet is too small in size to a have a 3MB of L2 Cache (with 2MB disabled). I've seen only one T6000 series CPU (T6670 I think), and its diet was a tiny bit bigger than the core in the T4000 series.

 

I have a compaq cq56-219wm with celeron 900 cpu and 2gb ddr2 6400 memory i just upgraded the memory to 4 gb and was wondering if its possible to upgrade cpu with a intel t6500 cpu ?

 

naton and nando4: I don't undervolt mine at all. I get temps in the 40s unless I'm really pushing it and then 51-53 C or so. Battery life is a non-issue for me, I never need my laptop away from a power plug for more than an hour or two I could see why someone would wish to undervolt and run cool if they actually use their laptop in their lap. Mine resides in the keyboard tray of my desk running 24/7 plugged in and has been there for the better part of 3 years. I do run it down to 5-15% at least once every month or two though. I don't even know HOW to undervolt a CPU.

troach2012: Yes, the T6500 is one of the CPU's that should work fine. As stated in this thread, the T8100/T8300 would be a better choice if you're actually spending money on a chip. Better L2 cache, and nando4 says they undervolt better.

I'm actually keeping my eye on several T8100/T8300s (and one T9300) and I'll swap one in if I get one cheap enough. I know my T4300 has no resale value but I'm watching for a single core GL40 laptop to come up for sale near me or on eBay and I'll snag it, toss in my T4300, any spare PC2-5300 memory I have laying around, and have a good spare lappy.

Just had to do a surgery on the Acer Extensa anyway, hard drive failure, so I swapped in the (admittedly older) 160GB drive from my eMachines eMD620 laptop. Wiped out Vista and put Ubuntu 11.04 on it for now, and cleared out 119GB of space and I'll decide in a week or two if I want to bother installing W7HP64 or not. I think Natty will be good enough. Just upset that I lost my install of Office 2007 that I had and I can't find the CD so I have no reason at all to install Windows unless I find that. Even then I might rather use WINE or something.

 

I've used a T4400 in a friend laptop, and I was amazed at how cool it run. I'm sure that the T4000 series can be easily overclocked past the 3GHz with the right laptop/motherboard/BIOS.

troach2012
Before investing in a new CPU, you should go to HP website and download the maintenance guide and check that HP is not using one motherboard for the Celeron 900 and another one for the Core 2 Duo CPU. If this is the case you might not be able to upgrade.

I own an HP Compaq 610 that came with a Celeron and I can tell you that I could not upgrade it to a Core 2 Duo. For whatever reason the graphics card in the GLE960 inside this laptop doesn't like FSBs higher than 533. Thus I could only upgraded it to a Pentium Dual Core T2370. The highest I could use in this laptop is the T2390.

My experience with the Compaq 610 is not unique. The HP 6720 also uses 2 motherboards, one for Celerons and one for C2Ds, and the one with a Celeron cannot be upgraded to a Core 2 Duo. My friend and I tried to upgrade the Celeron in his HP 6720 to a T7300 and it didn't work.

 

Open Office.Org or OOo is a very good alternative to MS Office. You should give it a go. Also it is a neater alternative to using MS Office with WINE.

 

No way. LibreOffice has a much broader support base than OpenOffice, better templates, better updates, etc. It's what I use on my desktop computer and what I use on any Ubuntu installs I have. Besides, I picked up a Powerbook G3/400/Pismo on eBay for $90 shipped (arrived today) and it has Office 2008 on it So if I absolutely need MS branded capabilities on the go, I'll live with its apparently 75-80 minute battery life Or pick up the NewerTech 84wH hi-cap battery for $99 or so and drop it in the optical bay And yes, I would spend more than I paid for the computer to get one of those batteries (the original Apple one is only 50wH and this one appears to be running at one fourth its original 5-hour estimated life according to Apple's original spec for the M7318 in there now)

 

Hi, I successfully installed a t9300 to my lenovo g530. Performance was noticeably better. However, im getting idle temps of 47C and hit 83C running prime95. I lready re-applied thermaltake thermal grease 3 times just to make sure it was well seated. Are my temps normal? Installed a T8100 prior to this wherein i got idle temps of 37C and 70C max running prime..i was expecting a cooler laptop after the upgrade..but no. Should i be concerned?

Also, my GPU thermal pad is a bit torn..was thinking of replacing it with a copper shim. Would anyone know how thick(mm) i should get? Thanks in advance

 

That may be hot but the TJMax for it is 105C. You're still in good shape. You would get a cooler laptop when you go to a LOWER powered processor, like a 25W or something.

You can always try and undervolt it, this may reduce the temps. I haven't got a clue how to do that but recent prior posts had to do with undervolting and there are programs like RMclock that can help, but RMclock hasn't been updated in a few years so it may not work for you on modern 64-bit OS's.

 

Thanks for the prompt reply..I'm using Real temp by the way. Though HWmonitor give me minus 5C readings. Which is more reliable? I'm a bit concerned coz i might have a gotten a bad chip. Also, would a torn GPU thermal pad contribute to my high temps?

 

Hi guys, just registered to get a bit of advice on a laptop I have been given as the owner didn't want to pay to get it repaired.

I will be using it for myself because at the moment it hasn't cost me a penny.

Its a toshiba C650-1CR, 320GB HDD, 15.6" screen, 2gb ddr 3 (1066, max 8gb), running a shoddy intel T3300. I have just spent the last 3 hours trying to figure out why the processor was permanently at 2ghz..then it hit me, no speedstep, /facepalm.

According to cpu-z its the GL40 chipset so i would like to put a chip in it that has speedstep, should be a bit better on battery life then and run a bit cooler, what should i be looking at ? Anything over 2ghz with speedstep would be ideal !

Andy

 

Pls backup on this thread to see discussion about T4xx/T6xxx/T8xxx/T9xxx price/performance/undervolting capabilities. After reading that I'd suggest scout for a T8100-2.1 or T8300-2.4.

 

I have read through a few pages...i can get a T4200 for £3.....surely thats too cheap to pass up !?

Just worried my bios (latest one) wont allow speedstep, or if that option is just hidden at the moment due to me having a celeron.

 

i have a Toshiba Satellite L305-S5994 with Bios v 2.20
the stock cpu is a t3200 and i have the GL40 express chipset
i ordered a t9300 today ($50 inc shipping)
hope it will work

 

Bought and fitted the T4200, still 2.0ghz so no increase in paper speed, although speedstep is a nice feature .

 

Core 2 Duo T9300 up and running on my L305-S5944 (which originally came with T3200)

2.5GHz and i can tell the difference and im running P95 as we speak (for about 20mins) and temps are 63 and 66 on the cores

alot better then my T3200 which could get into the 80s pretty easy

glad it worked with this GL40 chipset

CPU-Z reports everything correct but like others have said
FSB = 800 while ram is still showing 667 eventhough this ram in CPU-Z SPD reports it as capable of 800

anyhow im pretty satisfied

 

Does anyone know if the t8100 will work in an Advent Roma/ECS I50IL1??

 

The T8100 will work. The fastest CPU you can put in it is the T9500. The best value for money you can use is the T7300. Last, instead of the T8100 you should consider a T4000 or a T6000 CPU such as the T4200 and T6500 as they are likely cheaper.

 

Hi all!

I want to upgrade my Acer Extensa 5230e. (Celeron 2,2GHz P 900 cpu)
I have bought a used T4300 cpu, and I have updated the bios 1.29 - 1.36.
The new bios is working, but if the T4300 is on the m.board, the notebook doesn't boot.

I don't know if the used T4300 cpu is functional.
What can I do?

 

I'm not sure what to suggest as the T4300 should theoretically work. From past experience I can confirm that Acer BIOS are amongst the best as they support a wide range of CPUs support. I was able to install several CPUs on an Acer Aspire 4315 from a Celeron 530 to a C2D T9900. The T9900 worked with an FSB of 800 but never the less it worked

It is nearly impossible to damage a modern CPU. So I don't think that the T4300 you bought for the upgrade is faulty. You can try to return the T4300 and test a T7300 or a T7500 instead. T7300 are very cheap in ebay.

 

For anyone that is interested...

I got a Emachines e525 to work with a t7500.

I used the bios from:

eMachines Support - Downloads & Support Documents - Notebook / E Series / E525

Put it in and it booted right up... I updated the bios first...

Ok, I know there are probably better options. But I got the T7500 from MicroCenter for $28 and a little change with GA tax included...

I like being able to walk in and pick something up...

 

Hi, i need help to upgrade processor
I want to know which is the best processor for Acer Extensa 5230
processors T4200/T4300/T4400/T7250/T7300 is compatible with laptop Acer Extensa 5230 ?
I don't know a lot about processors or motherboards , so i need your help
thank you very much

 

Just wanted to share my experiences, I had a Pentium Dual Core T3400 based Toshiba Satellite Pro A300 with a GL40 chipset (though intel chipset ID seems to think it's a GM45).

I decided after reading through all the posts here to go for a T9300 Core 2 Duo, faster clock speed, higher FSB, more efficient architecture, more cache. The T9300 seemed like pretty much the fastest chip I could install bar the T9500 which is (still!) much more expensive and only 100MHz faster.

The Satellite Pro A300 is probably one of the most difficult machines to change the processor on, had to dismantle EVERYTHING. I repair electronics for my day job so I'm not scared of taking fiddly things apart but seriously this was a difficult one involving removing over 70 screws, the optical drive, modem, keyboard, left loudspeaker, top panel, hard disk, mouse pad, from here you have to disconnect every cable to the motherboard, remove all the screws holding it in place in order to remove it and turn it over, finally you can undo the heatsink and remove the processor.

Anyway, after the faff of disassembling and reassembling it all worked first time no problem, the t9300 is noticeably faster than the T3400 and noticeably cooler too, hopefully this will translate well into extended battery life, but I'm yet to complete a charge-discharge cycle.

As others have said, my RAM is still running at 667 despite FSB now being 800MHz (with PC2-6400 RAM installed), is this a GL40 limitation? The documentation seems to indicate that it will run ram at 800MHz, can anyone confirm that it does/doesn't?

 

Hello,

We need more information before giving an answer. What is the full model of you Extensa 5230? There are several versions, it seems the most common one has the Celeron 575, if yours is this then NONE of the processors you asked about will work because the Celery 575 is a Socket M processor. In which case you are stuck with 65nM architecture and an older generation of processors.

Do you know what chipset you have? If not CPU-Z will help you there. If my above assumptions are correct then a Core 2 Duo T7600 will be about the best you could upgrade to if the chipset and bios support it. It's a Dual Core 2.33GHz, 4Mb cache, 667 FSB. It should be a big step up from the Celery and you get the power saving of Speedstep and Dynamic Acceleration too.

 

I guys, i'm from chile , i found this tread and its amazing, i have a Samsung Rv410, with the stock Pentium Dual Core T4500 2,3 Ghz, 800 fsb, 1 Mb cache , i want to upgrade this procesor , i found a T8300 here in my country, it will work?, please advice me, and sorry for the poor english.

Here a Screenshot From Aida64 and Cpuz
The Chipset Northbridge is Intel Cantiga GL40
And the Southbridge is Intel 82801M ICH9M

AIDA Shows Maximun FSB 667, but is wrong because T4500 has 800 fsb

What is the maximun upgrade i can get?

there is a Quad Core processor that works?

 

Yes a T8300 will work. There's no Intel Quadcore that has 800fsb. However you can put a T9300,T9500 or even an x9000. I suggest a T9300 for better value for your money.

 

I agree! T8300 should work, but is not much of an upgrade, both are Penryn cores at similar speeds, the Core2 version having slightly better features, the T9300 is probably your best choice.

The FSB being reported incorrectly is interesting, I believe that DDR2 is capped at 667MHz on the GL40, though DDR3 will go to 800 (this is not what the intel documentation says, however some GL40 intel docs also say max FSB is 667, which is clearly incorrect).

Good luck with your upgrade.

 

Thanks, The Core 2 Quad Q9000 OEM is Socket P, it works?

Greetings

 

The short answer is no, it won't work.

Some people in a different thread put a lot of effort into trying, including various pin-mods and customising BIOS code, one user got a Q9900 working but on a 965 chipset and only with ONE core.

 

Thanks Guys, the last question, This Motherboard, supports Dual Channel?, it shows 6,4 gb/s with 1 ddr3 memory stick, if a put another stick the dual channel will work?

Thanks For all

 

I have a Fujitsu Amilo Li3910 (EF9) with a T4200 Dual Core. I want to upgrade it so it can handle games and video rendering and I was wondering what's the biggest cpu upgrade it can handle without modding.

Here are some CPU-Z data:

Northbridge Intel GL40 rev. 09
Southbridge Intel 82801IM (ICH9-M) rev. 03
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Channels Dual, (Symmetric)
Memory Frequency 399.0 MHz (1:2)
Name Intel Pentium T4200
Codename Penryn
Specification Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4200 @ 2.00GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket P (478) (0x7)

Also, is there any way (BIOS mod) it can handle 8GB RAM?

PS: I have an HP Pavilion dv9750ev for parts with Intel Core 2 Duo T8300 and a fried m/b (won't even take reballing). Will its CPU be a good upgrade and will it work with Li3910?

Thank you!

 

Video rendering? You are asking too much from this system. Even by going to an older (but slightly more powerful...) cpu.

I would recommend you start shopping for a current Ivy Bridge (IB) or even a Sandy Bridge (SNB) based system instead - you will see at least 4x or more performance increase than anything you can do to your current setup and you will have warranty and not be wasting your time with cpu transplants and wondering why/what is wrong with the system after you put it back together again.

See:
ARK | Compare Intel® Products


See:
PassMark CPU Lookup


See:
PassMark CPU Lookup



Even a brand new $350 current Celeron based setup will outperform your current options (cpu-wise).

See:
Acer Aspire E1-531-2846 w/ Celeron B820, 4GB, 320GB, DVD+/-RW, 15.6in HD, Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit at Memory Express


See:
PassMark - Intel Celeron B820 @ 1.70GHz - Price performance comparison



But for a little over $500, you could almost triple your performance:

See:
Asus K55A-BI5093B w/ Core i5-3210, 4GB, 500GB, DVD+/-RW, 15.6in HD, Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit at Memory Express


See:
PassMark - Intel Core i5-3210M @ 2.50GHz - Price performance comparison



And if you're converting video between different formats constantly; the newer i5 3210m IB based cpu will be DAYS faster than anything you can upgrade your current system to.


I am not trying to deter you from upgrading if you really want to... I'm just trying to show you that it may be in your best interest to simply buy the most current technology you can (and don't forget that you may be able to sell your current system too and put that money towards a new setup also).

Good luck.