Here's this, too...
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Suprised you didnt grab a 7980XE @Mr. Fox . Enjoy the 8700k nonetheless. I think I am done with performance laptop as well.
Gonna make a good 7980XE based desktop machine for myself next week. I am switch to Lenovo thinkpads for my laptop need hopefully in the future.
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You can see points coming from a variety of sources when you look at a profile page.
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@Mr. Fox did you happen to set the AC and DC Load Line to 0.01 in the BIOS? This was recommended on the Asus forums from an Asus Rep and it fixed the crazy high VID on Z370 motherboards.
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morph said:Raja is it 2.10 mOhms or 2.10 value? it seems to be different.
As a value of 100 = 1.0 mOhms.
so in theory to get 2.10 mOhms value needs to be 210?
Raja@ASUS said:The value I wrote is as r&d suggested. I'd stick to what was supplied rather than applying your own reasoning to the unit value (flip the UEFI unit explanation and it makes sense). And I'd suggest measuring the voltage before making changes, too. The required value may not be the same, and will likely need changing according to the external VRM LLC used. This is for adaptive/offset modes only. Plus, I'd wait and see if they patch it via a UEFI update. Especially if you can't make measurements.Click to expand...Click to expand...
Edit: I cannot vouch for the reliability of the comment, but it sounds (anecdotally) like the reason I am not seeing this issue is my motherboard doesn't have the problem that most other Z370 motheroboards have. Which is consistent with what I am seeing. ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (WIFI-AC) seems rock solid. Glad I paid extra for it. Let's hope Clevo gets it right on their new Z370 laptops.
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Here's this... *Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge
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Mr. Fox said: ↑Look again... it appears ASUS says to set it at 2.10 not 0.01. The screen shot example shows the wrong value. I haven't finished reading and I could be wrong, but are you sure you read that correctly? I am not seeing high voltage or massive vdroop issues on my board.
Edit: I cannot vouch for the reliability of the comment, but it sounds (anecdotally) like the reason I am not seeing this issue is my motherboard doesn't have the problem that most other Z370 motheroboards have. Which is consistent with what I am seeing. ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (WIFI-AC) seems rock solid. Glad I paid extra for it. Let's hope Clevo gets it right on their new Z370 laptops.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1638955/z370-z390-vrm-discussion-thread/250#post_26399844Click to expand...
The Great @Mr. Fox
Asus recommended setting it to 0.01, because that makes the VID what the CPU actually requests (and when using manual voltages, the VID matches the set vcore. Then you just have to compensate for vdroop with "Loadline Calibration" (LLC). They recommended this setting be set to 0.01 on all Kaby Lake boards.
I asked Raja what AC/DC loadline does and here was his reply:
The IA AC/DC loadline slopes define the VID the CPU requests under load. The 2.10mOhms setting is Intel reference for the Z370 desktop platform.Click to expand...
But I believe that is ALSO the reference setting for the MSI cancerbooks also.
If I use the "Auto" setting, my taptop shuts off (VRMs shut down) with prime 95 small FFT with AVX (FMA3) at 4.2+ ghz. The higher the ghz the faster the shutdown. Also the power draw seems to be sky high with the auto setting, and the VID is NOT shown accurately (someone explain to me how a VID of 1.14v can draw MORE POWER than a VID of 1.2106v?).
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If I use a "manual" AC/DC setting, anything above 1.30 (1.3 mOhms) also shuts off at 4.4 ghz (takes about 2 minutes however). At 2.1 mOhms (Intel reference setting=Auto), it shuts off in 15 seconds.
If I set my GT73VR cancerbook to 0.01 (1 in the Bios), the VID matches the set vcore almost exactly (Vdroop isn't shown), and the VRM's don't shut down at all.
I know you don't believe me, but I'm willing to bet you $20 dollars that that is why your 16L1 shut down as well when Prema had all power limits (Including CPU power limits being able to exceed 91W) at a high overclock. Because MSI set that value to "Auto."
You would need to change it to 0.01 and then increase the voltage. But there is a hard voltage ceiling on these cancerbooks.
Remember, MSI developed Battery Boost ™ right?
Well now we have proof they developed VID Boost ™ @Papusan
sirgeorge said:I ran some tests. LLC on MSI default is blue. Top line is power in watts, bottom line is voltage in mV.
LLC on 10 is red.
You'll notice that for some reason power is lower on the higher voltage
I can only assume the default configuration is to deliver ghost voltage, it's very strange
The power consumption discrepancy doesn't add up though. I think MSI configure the default settings to boost voltage at the core level but display a lower VID.
That's my only explanation unless someone can explain how a CPU at 1.33v can consume less power than the same one at 1.29v.
I just find it odd, there seems to be something shady going on in the default configuration.Click to expand...
There were people complaining about setting 1.3v in the Bios and getting 1.476v at load...
Then they changed AC/DC from auto to 0.01 and the VID dropped to 1.375 or something.
Keep AC/DC loadline at 0.01 boys.
*Edit* forgot pic: 0=intel 'reference' setting (Auto): 2.10 mohms most likely:
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@Falkentyne , the power is lower on the higher voltage because the current supplied is lower. The behavior is explained in this old article https://www.anandtech.com/show/2404/5
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I thought the current was a fixed amount?
Example:
The GTX 1080/GTX 1070 draw 19.5 amps because that is the rating of the power supply on the Taptops.
So 19.5 x 10 (a factor of 10 for the MXM slot) = 195W <--the maximum allowed rated power the MXM slot can deliver.
EDIT 19.5V NOT 19.5A SORRY.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_PCI_Express_Module
Well it's actually - voltage supply (usually 19.5V) * 10A (that's a constant) = ~195W and this is the maximum allowed peak power, by spec at least (some are going lower than that, M15x for example is 7A, that's still ~130W). It was going to be part of my essay I was going to write, but I deleted it, because I saw no point.Click to expand...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...3-0b-alive-thread.795048/page-2#post-10318790
So what's going on with that AC/DC jokebook setting?
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? I suggest a crash course on circuit basics
Watts (total power, or "work") = volts x amps
Amps (current) rises and falls with load
Volts stays much the same so long as the power source or voltage maintaining components (VRMs) aren't too stressed by the load - we call this observation Vdroop - or if it gets below what the CPU needs to be stable... BSOD.
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Got an email late last week that the 8700k was in stock on neweggs website, was able to get one ordered before they sold out and cancelled my B&H order. CPU came on Saturday, excited to finally have it. I plan on buying a rockit delidding tool before I put my mobo in and put the cpu in it and start building. Is gluing the IHS back on needed or do most people place the IHS back on and clamp it down with the cooler? This would be my first time actually delidding a cpu myself.
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Lunatics said: ↑Got an email late last week that the 8700k was in stock on neweggs website, was able to get one ordered before they sold out and cancelled my B&H order. CPU came on Saturday, excited to finally have it. I plan on buying a rockit delidding tool before I put my mobo in and put the cpu in it and start building. Is gluing the IHS back on needed or do most people place the IHS back on and clamp it down with the cooler? This would be my first time actually delidding a cpu myself.Click to expand...
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ASUS MAXIMUS X HERO - Overclocking Test and Guide 8700K (en)
Z370 - BATTLE of the CHEAP (en)
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Papusan said: ↑3DM11+3DMark suite and 3DMark Vantage(included key). Pick all outdated with key while you can.Click to expand...
Futuremark Celebrates Newegg Partnership with Huge Discounts - $5 for 3DMark
PRESS RELEASE by Chino Wednesday, November 8th 2017 19:07
"Futuremark, the developer of the world's most widely used benchmarking software, today announced a new partnership with Newegg, the leading tech-focused e-retailer in North America. The partnership sees Newegg complement its comprehensive selection of PC components and complete systems with Futuremark's popular 3DMark, VRMark and PCMark 10 benchmarks. It's a winning combination: everything you need to build and benchmark a new PC in one place." RUN AND BUY!!hmscott likes this. -
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Papusan said: ↑
Futuremark Celebrates Newegg Partnership with Huge Discounts - $5 for 3DMark
PRESS RELEASE by Chino Wednesday, November 8th 2017 19:07
"Futuremark, the developer of the world's most widely used benchmarking software, today announced a new partnership with Newegg, the leading tech-focused e-retailer in North America. The partnership sees Newegg complement its comprehensive selection of PC components and complete systems with Futuremark's popular 3DMark, VRMark and PCMark 10 benchmarks. It's a winning combination: everything you need to build and benchmark a new PC in one place." RUN AND BUY!!Click to expand...Papusan likes this. -
In Hindsight: Some of the Worst CPU/GPUs Purchases of 2017
By Steven Walton on November 13, 2017
https://www.techspot.com/article/1523-worst-cpu-gpu-purchases-2017/
The Worst CPU & GPU Purchases of 2017
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It looks like Intel might ship Coffee lake 8 core z390 earlier than 2H18
Intel Z390 motherboard spotted in SiSoft Database
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-z390-motherboard-spotted-in-sosoft-database.html
Intel’s Z390 Motherboards Start Showing Up – Will Support Coffee Lake-S (Up To 8 Core) Processors, Arrival Due in 1H 2018
https://wccftech.com/intel-z390-motherboard-leak/
"The first Intel Z390 motherboard has just appeared on SiSoftware’s database revealing that the new products based on the upcoming chipset may arrive sooner than expected.
Intel Z390 Motherboard Appears Online – Will Support 8 Core CPUs, Arrival Expected Much Earlier Than Anticipated
The Intel Z390 is a not a new name that we are hearing of, it appeared months before the Coffee Lake-S launch. At that time, there was no evidence of why Intel was producing the chipset but later, we got to learn that the chipset will be designed to support 8 core CPUs that Intel will be launching in 2018 to compete against AMD’s Ryzen processors of the same tier."
Intel Z390 Chipset Spotted on Upcoming SuperMicro Motherboard
https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Intel-Z390-Chipset-Spotted-Upcoming-SuperMicro-Motherboard
"Specifically, the Intel Z390 chipset was spotted in a SuperMicro C7Z390-PGW motherboard along with an undetected 92W Coffee Lake 6 core / 12 thread processor (perhaps SiSoft is simply incorrectly reading a 8700K or it’s an unreleased slightly more power efficient SKU). More interesting though is the continuing tease of possible 8 core (16 thread) consumer Core processors being released for these new Z390 chipset-based motherboards. The rumor mill is going all in on salt futures on this one it seems. What we still don’t know is what architecture these rumored 8 core chips will use, whether Coffee Lake or Cannon Lake (I’m leaning towards CNL but an 8 core Coffee Lake chip, while large, is not out of the question.)
The Z390 chipset will reportedly add a SoundWire digital audio interface with quad core DSP, integrated Intel Wireless AC (Wi-fi + BT CNVi), integrated SDXC 3.0, and Thunderbolt 3.0 with DisplayPort 1.4 support (using the Titan Ridge controller). The chipset further supports C10 and S0ix
In the last bit of Intel chipset rumors for today, rumors are also spreading suggesting that Intel may be moving up the launch of the Z390 chipset to the first quarter of next year to better compete with AMD and its Pinnacle Ridge (Ryzen 2000 / Zen+) processors and Promontory X400 series chipsets (e.g. X470 and B450) which are allegedly coming in January. Basically, it’s going to be a crazy CES for motherboard and processor soft launches and product teases / announcements!"aaronne likes this. -
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hmscott said: ↑It looks like Intel might ship Coffee lake 8 core z390 earlier than 2H18
Intel Z390 motherboard spotted in SiSoft Database
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-z390-motherboard-spotted-in-sosoft-database.html
Intel’s Z390 Motherboards Start Showing Up – Will Support Coffee Lake-S (Up To 8 Core) Processors, Arrival Due in 1H 2018
https://wccftech.com/intel-z390-motherboard-leak/
"The first Intel Z390 motherboard has just appeared on SiSoftware’s database revealing that the new products based on the upcoming chipset may arrive sooner than expected.
Intel Z390 Motherboard Appears Online – Will Support 8 Core CPUs, Arrival Expected Much Earlier Than Anticipated
The Intel Z390 is a not a new name that we are hearing of, it appeared months before the Coffee Lake-S launch. At that time, there was no evidence of why Intel was producing the chipset but later, we got to learn that the chipset will be designed to support 8 core CPUs that Intel will be launching in 2018 to compete against AMD’s Ryzen processors of the same tier."
Intel Z390 Chipset Spotted on Upcoming SuperMicro Motherboard
https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Intel-Z390-Chipset-Spotted-Upcoming-SuperMicro-Motherboard
"Specifically, the Intel Z390 chipset was spotted in a SuperMicro C7Z390-PGW motherboard along with an undetected 92W Coffee Lake 6 core / 12 thread processor (perhaps SiSoft is simply incorrectly reading a 8700K or it’s an unreleased slightly more power efficient SKU). More interesting though is the continuing tease of possible 8 core (16 thread) consumer Core processors being released for these new Z390 chipset-based motherboards. The rumor mill is going all in on salt futures on this one it seems. What we still don’t know is what architecture these rumored 8 core chips will use, whether Coffee Lake or Cannon Lake (I’m leaning towards CNL but an 8 core Coffee Lake chip, while large, is not out of the question.)
The Z390 chipset will reportedly add a SoundWire digital audio interface with quad core DSP, integrated Intel Wireless AC (Wi-fi + BT CNVi), integrated SDXC 3.0, and Thunderbolt 3.0 with DisplayPort 1.4 support (using the Titan Ridge controller). The chipset further supports C10 and S0ix
In the last bit of Intel chipset rumors for today, rumors are also spreading suggesting that Intel may be moving up the launch of the Z390 chipset to the first quarter of next year to better compete with AMD and its Pinnacle Ridge (Ryzen 2000 / Zen+) processors and Promontory X400 series chipsets (e.g. X470 and B450) which are allegedly coming in January. Basically, it’s going to be a crazy CES for motherboard and processor soft launches and product teases / announcements!"Click to expand...hmscott likes this. -
4 Year Old Core i7 vs. Core i7-8700K, Worth The Upgrade?
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z390 and then z490 for CFL 8 core and icelake 8 core not compatible good old intel need to buy a new pc. hoenstly though 8core CFL might not come so soon, perhaps in summer of 2018 which is Q3 or possibly even later.
remember eurocom's statement? F7 version of tornado will have z390 with 8 cores thats 2H2018, which is likely near the end.FTW_260 likes this. -
@Mr. Fox 's 8700K 5.2GHz BIOS Tuning 10-Minute Walk-Through
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Can a $7 CPU (x3430) HOLD UP Vs. The Mighty i7-8700K?
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hey @Eurocom Support
this might be an updated intel roadmap for desktop, are we still expecting to see 8 cores CPU with z390 in 2H2018?
https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content...op-Client-Roadmap-HEDT-Mainstream-Entry_1.jpghmscott likes this. -
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hey @Eurocom Support
this might be an updated intel roadmap for desktop, are we still expecting to see 8 cores CPU with z390 in 2H2018?
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Papusan said: ↑Smart move from Intel, not advertice 8 core now. It would decrease the sale of 6 core i7. They hope people with Haswell/Skylake or Kaby now will upgrade to Coffee as 8 core i7 don't show up in this roadmap. Directly from the textbookClick to expand...
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ole!!! said: ↑so a good chance we'll still to see 8 cores this year!. i got from sources saying 9700k and 9800k and also 9th gen is definitely on icelake, and eurocom mentioned 8core coming for z390... what is intel hiding now, out with it.Click to expand...
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ole!!! said: ↑so a good chance we'll still to see 8 cores this year!. i got from sources saying 9700k and 9800k and also 9th gen is definitely on icelake, and eurocom mentioned 8core coming for z390... what is intel hiding now, out with it.Click to expand...
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Looks like an official road map to me, not sure what they're hiding and this information just confirms an earlier leak about their upcoming CPU lineup.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1207...on-processor-lists-leaked-coffee-lake-refresh
The TDP of the CPUs listed match what they have on that leaked lineup. The upcoming 300 series chipset very well could simply be the unreleased non 'Z' 300 chipsets. The CPUs mainly look to be a small refresh of current chips, dual core CFL chips, as well as the low TDP CFL chips. -
Talon said: ↑Looks like an official road map to me, not sure what they're hiding and this information just confirms an earlier leak about their upcoming CPU lineup.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1207...on-processor-lists-leaked-coffee-lake-refresh
The TDP of the CPUs listed match what they have on that leaked lineup. The upcoming 300 series chipset very well could simply be the unreleased non 'Z' 300 chipsets. The CPUs mainly look to be a small refresh of current chips, dual core CFL chips, as well as the low TDP CFL chips.Click to expand...I'm sure Intel doesn't want that AMD shall rule the mainstream all to long as they already have done. AMD have already 8 core who beats Intel's mainstream 6 core i7 and will most likely push out a refresh not too long. None like to loose a single penny!! At least not INTEL. Remember the greed
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Papusan said: ↑An official road map can be edited with a pencil within a few seconds
I'm sure Intel doesn't want that AMD shall rule the mainstream all to long as they already have done. AMD have already 8 core who beats Intel's mainstream 6 core i7 and will most likely push out a refresh not too long. None like to loose a single penny!! At least not INTEL. Remember the greed
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I agree it can be edited, but going by the leaks that are actually out there and not just throwing darts in the dark it seems the road map is somewhat accurate. The 8700K is most likely already cannibalizing the 7800X sales, and an 8 core CFL ring bus architecture would seriously put a hurting on the 7820X 8 core mesh chip. -
Talon said: ↑Umm no, it doesn't beat CFL, in fact it loses in a quite few areas. Gaming, content creation, and streaming all go to CFL.
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Intel will never sit down do nothing see AMD push out faster 8 core CPUs with higher IPC.Last edited: Dec 7, 2017 -
Papusan said: ↑Stock R7 1800X beats 8700K. Even oc’d. All know Intel is good for gaming but more cores will have the extra. Hit up Bench scores for both and compare. Intel need 8 cores!! Even more after AMD’s push out their refreshed 8 core CPUs.
Intel will never sit down do nothing see AMD push out faster 8 core CPUs with higher IPC.Click to expand...
For gamers and content/media creators the 6 core CFL is superior. Intel probably will release an 8 core eventually, but for now it seems the roadmap doesn't show that. Want more cores? Buy X299 is most likely Intel's stance.Papusan likes this. -
Talon said: ↑-- Again no it doesn't.. He uses a 1700 (same chip) OC'd to 3.9Ghz with fast ram for Ryzen and it still loses in a bunch of tasks. I've seen plenty of reviews comparing benchmarks and it just doesn't. Again if you pick a few select tasks sure it does win in some, and loses in others, but to blanket statement say it beats it is false.
For gamers and content/media creators the 6 core CFL is superior. Intel probably will release an 8 core eventually, but for now it seems the roadmap doesn't show that. Want more cores? Buy X299 is most likely Intel's stance.Click to expand...This roadmap above isn't worth a ****y single cent!! More AMD rumors
Alleged AMD Ryzen 2 Leak Reveals 12-Core Ryzen 7 2800X With 5.1GHz Boost
"Anyway, it's going to be another exciting year. AMD set the groundwork to remain competitive for a long time to come , and the leaked slide underscores that. Meanwhile, Intel is preparing new CPUs of its own, including ones based on its long-anticipated 10nm Cannon Lake architecture. Hold onto your britches, folks." Yeah, Intel need to step up with mooore cores
Edit. Fake AMD Ryzen 2800X 12 Core 5.1GHz Slide Sends Media Into Frenzy
"The optimists among you will want to believe that this is true. After all who wouldn’t want to see 12 core Ryzen processors at as low as $329 and with clock speeds as high as 5.1Ghz, coming out on the 1st of February no less. The skeptics among you will point out that the specifications, pricing and timeline are all too conveniently fantastical. Sadly, the rumor has spread like wildfire with no evidence, other than the slide above, to corroborate any parts of it." Still, refreshed 8 core mainstream from AMD will push/hit Intel hard if Intel still want to go for 6 cores i7.Last edited: Dec 10, 2017Talon likes this. -
Papusan said: ↑I'm sure Intel will come up with a 8 core mainstream pretty fast although their road map don't mention it at all. Once AMD's new refreshed 8, 10 or 12 core chips is able to do 5.0GHz... What is Intel's answer to this? Refresh and push out 6 cores with similar clocks 4 or 5 months later? Or as you say push people on their *cheap* X299 platform if people want more than 6 cores? Nope!!
This roadmap above isn't worth a ****y single cent!! More AMD rumors
Alleged AMD Ryzen 2 Leak Reveals 12-Core Ryzen 7 2800X With 5.1GHz Boost
"Anyway, it's going to be another exciting year. AMD set the groundwork to remain competitive for a long time to come , and the leaked slide underscores that. Meanwhile, Intel is preparing new CPUs of its own, including ones based on its long-anticipated 10nm Cannon Lake architecture. Hold onto your britches, folks." Yeah, Intel need to step up with mooore coresClick to expand...Papusan likes this. -
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I tried watercooling an overclocked 8700k with a $19 waterblock
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Mr. Fox said: ↑And, for those planning to move to Z370 chipset, here are the drivers I used to integrate into Windows 7 with the MSMG Toolkit. I just finished a crisp new Windows 7 Ultimate installation onto the 960 Pro with no errors whatsoever. I only had to install Intel ME drivers and WiFi drivers when I was done. Those were the only two "unknown device" in Device Manager.
[ Download: W7 x64 Z370 Chipset/USB3.0/USB3.1/Intel RST RAID+AHCI/NVMe Driver INF files]
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The Level1 Techs 2017 Screeching Gamer Build! ft. MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio
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i7 8720HQ spotted:
https://www.techpowerup.com/239809/...mobile-six-core-processor-spotted-in-the-wild
- BGA
- 45 watt TDP
- 6 core/12 thread - 2.4 Ghz with 3.6 Ghz boost
- 9-12 MB L3 cache (3 MB is somehow disabled, may be because of it being an engineering sample)
- Rivals i5 8600K in multi-threaded due to HT
- Q1 2018 launch
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https://www.techpowerup.com/239809/...mobile-six-core-processor-spotted-in-the-wild
- BGA
- 45 watt TDP
- 6 core/12 thread - 2.4 Ghz with 3.6 Ghz boost
- 9-12 MB L3 cache (3 MB is somehow disabled, may be because of it being an engineering sample)
- Rivals i5 8600K in multi-threaded due to HT
- Q1 2018 launch
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Intel could have kept the 4c/8t CPU @ 45w, kept full cache and upped this 8c/16t CPU to 65w
In it's reduced cache form, single core may not outperform the 7820HK both with unlocked power limit's.
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It matches a 2 yr old 4ghz quad skylake in multicore while still managing to be 20% behind in single thread
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hmscott said: ↑Cache cutdown to make up for added cores power requirements, that's too bad that Intel decided to neuter the part rather than upping the power requirement.
Intel could have kept the 4c/8t CPU @ 45w, kept full cache and upped this 8c/16t CPU to 65w
In it's reduced cache form, single core may not outperform the 7820HK both with unlocked power limit's.
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bennyg said: ↑It matches a 2 yr old 4ghz quad skylake in multicore while still managing to be 20% behind in single thread
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Intel Core i7-8700K Coffee Lake Z370 and Z390
Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by hmscott, Sep 25, 2017.