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    Intel Core i7-8700K Coffee Lake Z370 and Z390

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by hmscott, Sep 25, 2017.

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    Con Lake Con Firmed
    Published on Jan 4, 2018
    Barely 2 months later, the great con is confirmed.
     
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    Coffee Lake CPUs stable on modded 100, 200 series chipsets
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...950h-coffee-lake.810891/page-12#post-10690712
    by Mark Tyson on 5 March 2018, 10:01
    http://www.hexus.net/tech/news/main...e-cpus-stable-modded-100-200-series-chipsets/

    "When Intel launched the 8th generation Core processors (Coffee Lake), enthusiasts were disappointed at yet another motherboard upgrade being required. Intel asserted that a new platform was required this time around to support more ground and power pads on the newer CPUs. Furthermore, Intel said that the 300 Series boards were necessary to offer the enhanced voltage regulation required to drive a six-core processor and very fast memory. However, the HEXUS editor thought Intel's position was "balderdash," as explained in our first Coffee Lake processor review.
    [​IMG]
    Over the weekend hardware modders have shared news that they have successfully been running Coffee Lake processors on 100 and 200 series chipsets. The first chip to be tests as being "completely working" is the Core i3 8100. It is thought that there will be no real issues getting any other quad-core Coffee Lake processor to work.
    [​IMG]
    A mix of software/firmware was used by Intel to lock out the possibility of using Coffee Lake processors on 100 and 200 series chipsets. On the Overclock forums, RootMoto said that the main hurdle is the Management Engine Firmware. TechPowerUp reports that further stumbling blocks are the CPU's microcode, and the iGPU's UEFI GOP driver. One other thing of note is that so far the hack/mod has only worked with ASRock motherboards (without the side-effect of the PCIe interface going missing) - but these are early days.
    [​IMG]
    If you are interested in executing the mod, a guide has been published on the Win-Raid forum. In brief you must download four BIOS related programs and follow a six step process. Modding doesn't seem to be a very complicated procedure but obviously such jiggery pokery could be bad for hardware warranties, or worse, so please proceed with caution.
    Coffee Lake Stable on Modded 100 & 200 Series | Performance Impact of Meltdown & More
    Modders Get "Coffee Lake" Chips to Work Stable on Intel 100/200-series Chipsets
    https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/8274o4/modders_get_coffee_lake_chips_to_work_stable_on/

    Fernando's Win-RAID Forum (Storage Drivers - BIOS Modding) » BIOS Modding » BIOS Modding Guides and Problems » [GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards
    https://www.win-raid.com/t3413f16-GUIDE-Coffee-Lake-CPUs-on-Skylake-and-Kaby-Lake-motherboards.html

    "Premise: the guide below is NOT a transaction without risk and success can not be guaranteed.
    Therefore, I do not assume any responsibility for problems or damages resulting from the use of this guide.
    Those who do not have a propensity to risk and a some computer skills should abstain (at least for now).
    Almost all the information is coming from this forum, my modest task is just to put various things together.
    So thank you to all forum members that made this possible, From Fernando to SoniX to all the others.
    This guide is intended for AsRock motherboards as they have proven to work well with this mod.
    A socketed BIOS chip is desirable as it could reduce the risk of bricking the board.
    Because of higher power limits I would not suggest this mod with i5 and i7 K series CPUs
    Four software "packages" are required for the software:

    1. UEFI BIOS Updater (UBU) in version 1.69.11.fix
    2. Intel Binary Modification Program (BMP) v2.6.7
    3. VBios and BSF Package
    4. AMI Aptio V UEFI MMTool v5.0.0.7 or more recent

    Links and directions to get those are all in the first post of the following page:
    [Tool Guide+News] "UEFI BIOS Updater" (UBU)
    in addition to the four packages you need a copy (instant flash) of the motherboard BIOS downloaded from the manufacturer's website. The version must be recent but not too much (not after October 2017). Finally you need the two files that are in the attached zip file.

    Before starting, the following preparatory work is needed:

    1. Unpack the UBU folder (v1.69.11.fix): this will be the main working folder
    2. Install Intel BMP on the PC: it will be used to prepare the updated vBIOS
    3. Copy the VBIOS_and_BSF / SKLKBL folder into the UBU folder
    4. Check that the MMTool.exe program has exactly this name (without spaces or numbers, possibly rename it) and insert it in the UBU folder
    5. Leave a copy of the BIOS to be changed in the UBU folder
    6. In the folder UBU / modules / mCode replace the file "sel1151.bat" with the one with the same name attached to this post and in the subfolder 1151 insert the attached file: "cpu906EB_plat02_ver00000072_2017-09-20_PRD_A08C2841.bin". these two files will allow the Coffee Lake microcode to be inserted semi-automatically.

    elisw has attached files to this post
     
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    Intel's elusive top-end Z390 chipset makes a surprise appearance on AIDA64
    By Jacob Ridley, March 12, 2018
    https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-z390-aida64-release

    "Back before Intel’s Coffee Lake had (kinda) launched the rumour mill was abuzz with the possibility of a new chipset joining the fold, the Intel Z390. It has all since fell silent from Intel and their affiliated companies regarding this high-end platform - until now, that is.

    Excitement for this potential motherboard platform has plateaued since it first appeared, somewhat due to a void of information following early leaks. However, the benchmarking software, AIDA64, may have just reignited the rumour mill yet again, as their latest release notes for version 5.95.4569 point to an incoming Z390 motherboard from MSI.

    The release notes, spotted over at VideoCardz, specify ‘motherboard specific sensor info for MSI B360/H310/H370/Z390-Series’ boards, which is indicative that, at least, a single MSI Z390 board will reach the light of day. The other boards listed are all expected to appear any day now alongside new Coffee Lake processors sometime from March to April.

    We first heard about the Z390 chipset at Computex last year with Asus talking about the new platform, so it’s pretty likely there’ll be some Asus boards too.
    [​IMG]
    We then saw Intel’s Z390 chipset appear on a leaked roadmap, indicating a launch window sometime within the second half of 2018. We could potentially see the Z390 chipset launch later than the upcoming launch window for Intel’s Coffee Lake refresh if this initial roadmap rings true.

    Intel’s Coffee Lake lineup has already seen a pretty elongated launch schedule. The Z370 chipset and small handful of chips launched last year, although we are still yet to see any of the budget or mainstream boards on the market. It’s still unclear as to the intended purpose of the Z390 chipset at this point within Intel’s convoluted lineup.

    It was speculated early on that Intel’s strange launch schedule was in response to AMD’s Ryzen processors, which lends to the early rumours that the Z390 chipset would support eight-core Coffee Lake processors to compete with the top-end of the upcoming AMD Ryzen 2 chips. However, slightly toned-down guess-work lends to the new chipset merely supporting a wider range of features for the top-end Coffee Lake chips, such as USB 3.1 gen 2 support natively on the board. Currently, it’s not clear if either theory will play out.
    [​IMG]
    It’s certainly a strange chipset to launch, especially so late in the year. But with how well Intel’s 10nm process is going so far, it wouldn’t be all that surprising to see 14nm stick around for a little while longer and warrant an even higher-end chipset than what Z370 currently offers - at least until AMD’s Zen 2 forces their hand.

    With X299 already facing issues of three redundant chips at the lower-end of the enthusiast product stack - the i5 7640X, i7 7740X, and i7 7800X - due to cannibalisation from Coffee Lake, it seems strange for Chipzilla to cause further trouble for their enthusiast range by launching an eight-core mainstream chip. With the current state of affairs in Intel’s camp, however, I wouldn’t rule it out as a possibility."

    Intel Z390 Motherboards Spotted

    Published on Mar 12, 2018
    A new look for the Z390 motherboard platform has emerged thanks to AIDA64, detailing the motherboards will likely start to emerge within the next several months. Will they be the fabled 8 core Coffee Lake's or for Intel's 10nm Cannonlake?
     
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    Intel Coffee Lake-S processor with 8-cores spotted for the first time
    Traces of yet unreleased 8-core CFL-S processor can be found in 3DMark database.
    Published: 20th Mar 2018, 16:01 GMT
    https://videocardz.com/75458/intel-coffee-lake-s-processor-with-8-cores-spotted-for-the-first-time

    "It is no longer a secret that Intel is preparing for ‘core-an war’ with AMD. The Core i7-8700K featuring 6-cores was Intel’s first high-end gaming processor for the Zxxx platform. This expansion will soon reach the mobile market where Coffee Lake-H will make a debut with 6-core SKUs.

    The Z390 platform, which has been appearing in various leaked roadmaps for the past few months now, is more or less confirmed. The latest information suggests that we should be seeing Coffee Lake Refresh around summer.

    It’s hard to say what else to expect from Intel, but the priority is certainly put towards multi-threading required for content creation and gaming.

    The 8-core Intel Coffee Lake S SKU might be part of 8th Gen Core, but it could also be part of 9th Gen core.

    The leak shows an unrecognized CPU with 8-cores and 16-threads. The clock may be a base clock, but it could also be a misreading by the software. The testing platform is recognized as Intel Corporation CoffeeLake S82 UDIMM RVP, which is an engineering board.
    Intel-Coffee-Lake-S-8-core-CPU.png
     
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    Inside i7-8700K - Scanning Electron Microscope (SEM) Footage (en)
     
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    ASRock Z370 Extreme4 Motherboard Review + Linux Test
    Published on Apr 8, 2018
     
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    BIOSTAR confirms Z390 RACING GT3 & GT5 motherboards
    Published: 10th Apr 2018, 09:25 GMT
    https://videocardz.com/75858/biostar-confirms-z390-racing-gt3-gt5-motherboards

    "Now, this is probably one of the biggest embargo-breaking failures in recent history.

    BIOSTAR Z390 RACING GT3
    A manual bundled with B360 Racing series apparently has more information than it’s supposed to have. The cover revealed that the company has Z390 motherboard in the making, in fact, they already have a manual for it.

    This means that either Z390 motherboards are close, or someone was just not paying attention and made a huge mistake which went into print (very unlikely).

    The manual can be downloaded from Biostar website and its content are not really giving us much information about the Z390 chipset itself. It does mention though that B360 chipset does not allow overclocking while Z390 does. The motherboard also supports CPUs up to 95W, which may indirectly confirm the maximum TDP of 8-core Coffee Lake-S CPU.
    [​IMG]
    Contents of the manual reveal another motherboard, the Z390 Racing GT5:
    z390gts.JPG
    z390gts motherboard layout.JPG
     
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    Overclocking Ten i7 8700K CPUs [Part 2] The Retail Test
    Published on Apr 12, 2018

    Did Intel Cherry Pick 8700K Review Samples? [Part 1] The Unboxing
    Published on Apr 11, 2018
     
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    i7-8700K Vs. 6 Core X5675 - The Best USED CPU vs The Best New CPU in 2018 (WITH SHOCKER...!)

    Published on Apr 12, 2018
    Lying dormant, being accused of being outdated, this little x5675 Xeon's feelings got hurt to the point where he decided to bust out the 4.5GHz OC on air and stick it to 2018, where the results are surprisingly.... interesting.... especially if you are a competitive gamer.

    Grab a X5675 here: http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/yju3fyR
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    Hardware Debunked - Part 2 - Double Con-Firmed
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    Published on Apr 16, 2018
    Most of the time, the results don't lie.
     
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    For more ZombieLoad / RIDL / Fallout and more Vulnerabilities info, see this thread:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...atches-and-more.812424/page-123#post-10910828

    Is Hyper-Threading Even Necessary? ZombieLoad Impact Testing (8700k)

    JayzTwoCents
    Published on May 20, 2019
    Well Intel has once again found itself at the center of another CPU Flaw/Exploit... this time the only way to completely mitigate the threat on a local level is to turn off Hyper-Threading on its CPUs... so what does that mean for performance loss?? Let's find out!

    michael schwarz 1.jpg
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    jay ht on off tests 1.jpg
    jay ht on off tests 2.jpg
    jay ht on off tests 3.jpg
     
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