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    Intel Mobile Processor Compatibility Guide

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Commander Wolf, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Commander Wolf

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    As far as I know, there is no such thing.
     
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    Shouldn't the Q9200 be listed under the core2extreme category?
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  3. Commander Wolf

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    This one's interesting... the Q9200 isn't actually officially listed on Intel's site yet (at least not under "Core 2 Quad Mobile" or "Core 2 Extreme Mobile"), so I think the tools might still not be identifying it properly.

    I listed it as a standard Core 2 Quad because all current Extreme parts always have an "X" in the name, and the Q9200 does not, but until Intel gets it up on their site, it's impossible to confirm.
     
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    For some reason or another the Q9200 was never released to OEM's or retail and it never will. It does not officially exist. If you want one it will have to be an engineering sample.
    There isn't an identification tool that reports "Q9200" anywhere that I can find. The chip has QAVR where the Q9200 should be.

    A number of Alienware M17x users have tested the chips and have reported them as having unlocked multipliers which is unusual for the Penryn engineering samples. Toshiba does not have BIOS options for changing multipliers so I can not personally verify those statements. I should also note that Q9100 engineering samples have been tested by M17x users(the M17x has BIOS options for changing multipliers) and have reported them as being "locked".
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    And the Q9100 also disappeared. At least from most retailers for configuration...
    The coming of i7 made them obsolete before they could even heat the market? lol
    Or perhaps they were too powerful, and making the QX9300 useless. Since a Q9200 at 2.4GHz is a lot cheaper than a QX9300. And when xoticpc offered the Q9100 at 2.26GHz, it was the same as teh Q9000
     
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    I think the prices were what made the Q9100 a somewhat rare find since it was retailing for close to the QX9300. Most of the configurators I have looked at with Q9100 option was only about $50-$100 difference. I think most people at that price point would and did either opt for the Q9000 or QX9300.
     
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    Is it possible to change Pentium Dual Core T2130 (Socket M, Yonah) with some kind of better processor that fits this chipset? Does it make sense for common tasks such as net, multimedia, films and older games?
     
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    I don't know. You have a SiS chipset. The documentation on these things is nonexistent. I'd say anything in the Socket M Celeron or Pentium Dual Core range is a safe bet, any probably any of the few 533MHz FSB Core 2 Duos. After that, it's really a crapshot. Google doesn't seem to suggest that anyone's actually had any experience upgrading this thing either...
     
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    Hi, I just wanna ask if there's any possible upgrade for my Intel Core 2 Duo P7350? Thanks a lot! I've seen the list but I'm not sure about my interpretation. Also, is a quad core processor a possible upgrade?
     
  10. Commander Wolf

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    What computer and chipset do you have?
     
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    I have an Acer Aspire AS7738G-734G50MN

    Processor: Intel Centrino 2® Core™ 2 Duo (P7350 - 2.0 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 3MB)
    Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
    RAM: 4GB (DDR3 1066MHZ)
    Hard Drive: 500GB
    Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 130M with 1GB DDR3 Memory

    Based on your list, my processor has a Penryn-3M. To my understanding, I can potentially upgrade to a Core 2 Duo P8800 which is 2.6GHz since it has the same FSB (assuming that if they're in the same chipset category it should fit). I was wondering if I can upgrade to a quad core processor and, if possible, would you be able to determine which one?

    Here's my backstory. From the Acer website, there's a laptop that has the exact same specs as my laptop's but differs only on two things: 1.) It has a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9000 and 2.) a Blu-ray drive. The laptop that I'm talking about is Acer Aspire 7738G-904G100BN.

    Well, I hope I don't sound silly, but at the back of my mind I was hoping that I could simply buy the Q9000 separately. I don't need the Blu-ray drive since I have a PS3. The price difference between the two laptops is 300+ quid. Don't get me wrong, I'm quite happy with my current laptop I just want to know if my laptop is "futureproof".

    I've done a processor upgrade once before using your guide and it was successful. This time I just need some guidance with this one.

    Thanks very much!

    *Oh yeah, I ran the Intel Chipset Identification Utility and it's not working - it's saying that I'm on an account that doesn't have administrator privileges; I've tried right-clicking on it and running as administrator, tried it via properties then run as administrator, tried other compatibility settings - no dice.

    ** I went to device manager and looked at the hardware id of the processor, it says ACPI/Intel64_Family6_Model23 - I've run out of ideas :(
     
  12. Commander Wolf

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    I'm fairly certain you can use the Q9000. Chances are that the 734G50MN and 904G100BN are indeed identical save for the processor and optical drive. I do't think Acer would make two different 7738 motherboards and chassis just to support two different processors.

    Of course, these days you never know how cheap these companies can be. If you want to be safe, I'd stick with 35W Socket P processors, but after that, anything up through the T9900 will work.
     
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    Thanks for the advice wolf! Now I'll have to ask around and see which of the two processors would be suitable for my computer use.
     
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    OMG ppl u r so amazing, thanks alot for the great thread...i've been trying to upgrade my laptop's processor since ages i've tried like 33 different processors but the machine simply doesn't fire up, i have acer extensa 5220, Celeron M 560 2.13Mhz ,1Mb L2C, FSB533Mhz and the chipset is Intel 965 express, what would be the fastest and cheapest processor that would the main board accept and if anyone has tried it b4 bcuz i don't kno if the bios is locking anything,,,,thanks alot...ur amazing ppl i dunno how i haven't seen this thread b4 i googled like million times trying to read bout mobile processors upgrades...yah forgot to say CPUID says its Conroe-L Socket 479 mPGA thanks :)
     
  15. Commander Wolf

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    If you've actually got the 965 and not the 960, you can use any Socket P processor with an 800MHz FSB or less. Extremes will probably not work. I'd recommend something like a T8100 or a T9300.
     
  16. hunix

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    thnx Commander for your reply, here is wut intel chipset utility says and CPUID is the same :
    Intel® Chipset Identification Utility
    System Information
    Chipset

    Detected Chipset:
    Intel(R) GM965 Express Chipset

    Chipset Components

    Memory Controller:
    82GM965

    I/O Controller:
    Intel(R) 82801HBM/HEM I/O controller hub (ICH8M) SATA Controller found in IDE mode

    Integrated Graphics:
    Intel(R) 965GM Graphics And Memory Controller Hub(GMCH)

    do u kno if the bios is locked to certain processors or not because if i buy the processor i can't return it back and u kno they r not cheap thnx and srry for disturbing you :), srry i forgot to ask...are all 960 processors compatible with 965 chipset and if so, wut are the 960 compatible processors that i can use...thnx again
     
  17. Commander Wolf

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    I doubt your BIOS locks out certain processors. If there's any sort of compatibility issue, it's going to be because your BIOS revision doesn't accept 45nm processors. But download the latest BIOS and it shouldn't be a problem.

    All processors that work in the GL960 will work in a 965 chipset, but the reverse may not be true.
     
  18. hunix

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    great, so lets just say that i have 960 and not the 965 wut processors should i get?buddy is the intel chipset ident. utility accurate?thnx buddy u r the man :D
     
  19. Commander Wolf

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    I think the chipset utility is accurate. Google agrees with it.

    Say you have the GL960... probably best to stick with Pentium Dual Cores and 667MHz FSB or slower Socket P Core 2 Duos.
     
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    CWolf, I finally found out my chipset (?) it's Socket P 478. So the T9900 is compatible and so is Q9000? How bout the Q9100 and the Q9200?
     
  21. Commander Wolf

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    That's not your chipset. That's just telling you Socket P has 478 pins. Your chipset is the PM45 and it is known to be compatible with all of the aforementioned quads. The limitation here is not with the chipset but with your motherboard and BIOS.

    If your motherboard and BIOS are the same as the motherboard and BIOS on the 7738G- 904G100BN, you will almost certainly be able to use all three of the aforementioned quads. If your motherboard or BIOS is cut down, there may be problems.

    That being said, I think it's fairly likely that your motherboard and BIOS is indeed the same as that of the 904G100BN, but there's no way I can be totally sure without having the both of 'em right next to each other.
     
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    Thanks very much mate! Cheers!
     
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    hi! got a question.
    i have hp pavilion dv6-1360us
    T7450 2.13Ghz
    4gb ddr3 1066ghz
    hd4650 gddr3
    500gb 7200rpm

    i would like to upgrade to a stronger processor.
    what do i have to know to upgrade it if can it be upgraded?
    tnx
     
  24. Commander Wolf

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    I think you've got a 45-Series chipset. Given that you do, you can use any of the typical 35W and lower Socket P processors right up through the T9900. Probably no Extremes or Quads, but the dv6 might be able to take it.
     
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    what would be a significant boost for me? i p8600 maybe? i have a 200dollar budget. if i can do anything with that budget
     
  26. Commander Wolf

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    What're you doing with the computer?
     
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    well mostly playing games. but i red on the forum that some games require more cpu power and that 2.0 is sometimes not enough. this is 2.13 but the difference isnt big.
     
  28. Commander Wolf

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    It might help a little bit... but for the most part, even with a T7450, you're still going to be GPU limited. I wouldn't think that a processor upgrade in general is going to help you much. I'd say save your money for a machine with faster GPU.
     
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    k tnx. im pretty satisfied with this gpu.mix of med/high/max settings works for me just fine. tnx wolfman
     
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    well,first of all i kno this isn't the right place to ask for this question but i think u ppl have enough expertiese because i couldn't find any solution till now, hope some body can help me up, its toshiba satellite a200 psae6e everything working great until bios update now bios asks for password on power on and the password was never set on the bios and it was freshly updated from toshiba europe support site and for the exact model, toshiba announced about this issue and they would fix it for free for thos who still have waranty on their machines anyways i couldn't find any toshiba authorised service provider in my region and i need to flash my bios via crisis disk (upgrading bios from usb floppy disk) and its not working at all, i think all i need if somebody knows how to reset the password by hardware for satellite a200 or if someone has an a200 laptop psae6e can grab the bios image and send it to me so i can use it for the upgrade because the one which is on toshiba's support site is only to be used from windows...thanks alot i appreciate any help while its not the right place for this tho.
     
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    guys.. i'm planning to ditched my old Pentium T2330 for a newer C2D processor..

    i'm having a hard time figuring out which C2D processor would likely be compatible with my notebook ASUS A8Le that runs on a GL960 chipset..

    i've read on another thread that someone actually put a C2D T7500 on a GL960 laptop..

    i was wondering if i could do the same with my notebook??

    your help and feedbacks would be greatly appreciated..
     
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    Hi

    I see this forum hasn't been contributed to recently but hope it's still active!

    Thanks for the efforts in creating the table and apologies if I'm raising a question I should have worked out.

    I have just bought a UK Dell New Studio 1745 with T4300 2.1ghz CPU and ATI 4570 512mb gpu. From running tests I believe I'm running a G45 Express Chipset. I would like to buy a cpu at some point to upgrade once out of warranty.

    Am I right in thinking -all- the following list of Socket P are compatible? http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=35509

    It seems to mirror the list posted here. However I have read conflicting info as to whether quad core are compatible. I've read cooling may be an issue?I'm sure the FSB will be ok. Other wise what would be a recommended Dual Core?

    I have tried emailing Dell but they don't seem as helpful once you've made a purchase..

    Rich
     
  34. Commander Wolf

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    The 1745 is pretty much guaranteed to take all 35W Socket P processors. Whether or not you can use 45W Quads and Extremes is probably BIOS limited; the 1745 should share a cooling system with its 1747 sibling - said cooling system should be able to handle 45W processors.

    To be on the safe side, unless someone has proven that a quad will work in the 1745 (though I think that it would), you should go for a 35W part.
     
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    Thanks for that Commander Wolf. That leaves quite a range of core 2 duo processors to choose from above the T4300. Presumably no issue with using a cpu with a lower tdp than the T4300 such as the P8700 at 25w?

    Would be interested to know if anyone has installed a quad core successfully or have enough intimate knowledge of the Dell 1745 chipset etc to know which are compatible? I'm guessing it's too new for people to have upgraded cpu on this one.

    Thanks
    Rich
     
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    I have the Gateway M-6851
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101154
    with the T5550 processor. Is the t7600 the best processor I can get? I mainly use this laptop for mixing and I would like to upgrade to a faster processor to allow me to do faster video editing and for video mixing.
    Am I correct in guessing that a quad core cpu would be out of the question?
    Thanks guys.
     
  37. Commander Wolf

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    The T7600 isn't the best processor you can get. Hell, the T7600 won't work in your machine. You've got a 965 chipset, which'll take any 800MHz FSB or less, 35W TDP or less, Socket P processor right up to the T9500.
     
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    I bought an Intel T2250 Core Duo for my AS 4315 (GL960) the other day. After a bios update I swapped my old Celeron M 430 for the T2250, and I just cannot get it to work. The damn thing won't even start. So, am I screwed here, or could it perhaps be a faulty processor I've got my hands on?

    /Fee
     
  39. Commander Wolf

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    Some Socket P machines are missing the dead pin that physically non-Socket P processors from being installed. Yours must be one of these because the T2250 is a Socket M processor, and has just about no chance of working with the GL960.
     
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    Well, it's not about it being physically impossible to install (if that's the jist of the above post).
    I've been comparing processors which I know works on my machine, and one of the listed ones is (for example) the T5450, which shares pins/socket compatibility with the T2250. How is it that I cannot get the T2250 to run whereas other ppl have absolutely no problem with the T5450 on the very same machine? - I'm really at loss here trying to understand the difference with pins/platforms/whatnot when there seems to be just my processor which is at fault.

    /confused net

    EDIT: nm I guess. Me being thick or smth.
     
  41. Commander Wolf

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    Where does it say that the T5450 is Socket M... or that the T2250 is Socket P? They don't share the same pin configurations; the T2250 is for Socket M and the T5450 is for Socket P. It was not physically incompatible because, as I said, some Socket P machines are missing the dead pin that prevents Socket M or Socket 479 processors from fitting in the socket.
     
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    Are there any reasonable upgrades from a T3400 that will work with a GL40 chipset (see sig for more details of the system)? These mobile chipsets and sockets are confusing the heck out of me. I'm especially looking for some that has VT support.

    TIA for any assistance and recommendations.
     
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    What about T6670 it's 800FSB cpu
     
  44. Commander Wolf

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    I think the GL40 officially supports up to 800MHz FSB Socket P chips. I'm fairly certain there was a guy who did a fairly good job showing that 1066MHz FSB Socket P parts didn't work. Thus the T6670 should work, but I'm not 100% sure on this one.
     
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    Thanks. How much of a performance difference should I expect (if any) going from a T3400 to a T6670? I know that these things can be difficult to judge, but a ball park figure would be helpful.
     
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    thank you for this guide. I was able to sucessfully upgrade my cpu from a t2310 (gl960 chipset) to a t7100. without the guide i probably wouldn't have even considered going that high. thanks again.
     
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    hi there i have a asus F81se laptop with a core duo T4200 processor.i am wondering could it be upgraded to a intel core2duo P8700 processor..?thank you all
     
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    Probably, but to be sure, download cpuz and check what chipset it reports.
    If it's the PM45 or GM45 express then it should work.
     
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    ive checked it but its just written sis 671/FX/DX/MX thats all..thx
     
  50. Commander Wolf

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    I have absolutely no idea what these SiS chipsets can support. Few manufacturers use them and documentation is non-existent. That being said, there is an F81SE on sale that ships with a P8700, so I'd assume you can at least use that:

    http://www.laptopspec.net/2009/08/asus-f81se-vx193/
     
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