Intel Mobile Processor Compatibility Guide

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Commander Wolf, I see your signature
Fanless Dell Latitude E6400 SU9300/2GB/GMA X4500HD/80GB X25-M/WXGA+/7 Pro
How do you manage it? SU9300 is usually BGA956. What is your motherboard?
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Hi there,

I've been a keen follower of this website ever since the idea of upgrading my sister's HP\Compaq 6720s laptop with a GL960 chipset came to me! Thanks to this website, I successfully upgraded her Celeron M 540 to a Core 2 Duo T5750, which runs a lot more efficiently and powerfully, and her battery life has increased significantly due to the SpeedStep technology included in the new CPU.

However, I unfortunately received the video problem, but my sister eventually worked around that by doing a Startup Repair on Windows 7 everytime she boots her laptop up, although I should be receiving my PC2-4200 memory (thanks to a tip from this website again!).

My question is, I've come across a cheap T8100 in recent days and seeing as I have a new Core i3 spec, I am fascinated into the idea of upgrading hers once more. Do you think this CPU, or any Penryn-based C2D CPU would work with this board? Also, would it be worth a BIOS upgrade before I do anything else, and by using an 800FSB CPU, would I need to upgrade my memory once more to 667 or 800Mhz?

Many thanks for your help.

 

Is i945GM/PM (Lenovo 3000 N100) compatible with T7100 (Core 2 Duo) processor ?

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It's Socket M... you need to use the T7200 or the T7400. The T7100 is Socket P/965.

 

Not that I like to assume, But would I be correct in saying that this should work then? I have a Celeron M410 1.46GHz/ATI Radeon Xpress200M Acer TravelMate 2440. Laptop is great except CPU gets overloaded when doing a lot of multitasking... Been looking around at new ones and thought about the possibility of upgrading this one since the tech should be old enough its relatively cheaper ( like to get my dollars worth out of machines!) I'm very comfortable taking them apart changing parts etc, I'm a computer tech by trade but usually shy away from doing CPU upgrades in laptops as I feel there's a lot of variables and not a lot of solid information relating to it. So before I buy a chip for $40-80 I wanted to ask if anyone had specifically had any success upgrading this platform to something like a T2450?

Looks like the guide would suggest: (correct me if I read it wrong )

Core Solo
Yonah
Core Solo T1350 1866 2048 533

Core Duo
Yonah
Core Duo T2050 1600 2048 533
Core Duo T2250 1733 2048 533
Core Duo T2350 1866 2048 533
Core Duo T2450 2000 2048 533

Core 2 Duo
Merom-2M
Core 2 Duo T5300 1733 2048 533
Merom
Core 2 Duo T5200 1600 2048 533

Pentium Dual-Core
Yonah
Pentium Dual-Core T2060 1600 1024 533
Pentium Dual-Core T2080 1733 1024 533
Pentium Dual-Core T2130 1866 1024 533

Celeron M
Yonah-512
Celeron 215 1333 512 533
Yonah-1024
Celeron M 410 1466 1024 533
Celeron M 420 1600 1024 533
Celeron M 430 1733 1024 533
Celeron M 440 1866 1024 533
Celeron M 450 2000 1024 533
Merom-L
Celeron M 520 1600 1024 533
Celeron M 530 1733 1024 533

Included are CPUZ shots of CPU/Mainboard.

 

I have a similar configuration (as loseyourmind has): HP Compaq nx6310, Intel Celeron M 410 Yonah-1024, L1 64KB L2 1024 KB FSB 533 and MB chipset i943/940 GML (according to CPU-Z). I've updated my BIOS to the latest version (in the BIOS release file it says: Integrates a new version of Intel support code for mobile processors: Intel Core2 Duo Mobile Processor T7000 and T5000 series processors). I want to know if anyone accomplished a successful upgrade to T7000 or T5000. Which of them would you recommend?

 

This one is kind of a crapshot... there's really no documentation for the ATI chipsets, but from what I've read, most of them will take all Socket M parts. So you should be good with a T2450, but no guarantees.

If the BIOS specifically says you can use T5000 and T7000 processors, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to use said chips.

 

Unfortunately, after digging for more info I found out that there is a limitation in the i943/940 GML chipset: it does not support 2 core processors (it was designed for Celeron M processors ). Here is an excerpt from Intel documentation:
" Mobile Intel® 940GML Express Chipset Feature Support
All features supported by Mobile Intel 945GM/945GME Express Chipset shall be supported by Intel 940GML Express Chipset unless noted otherwise below. However, The Mobile 940GML Express Chipset does not include support for External Graphics via a PCIe interface.
Processor Support
• Celeron M processor (Intel Core processor based), Celeron M processor ULV
• 533-MHz FSB support only

Mobile Intel® 943GML Express Chipset Feature Support
All features supported by Mobile Intel 940GMLGM Express Chipset shall be supported by Intel 943GML Express Chipset unless noted otherwise below.
System Memory Support
• Support for Dual-Channel Interleaved mode of operation"

And I also found somebody who tried the upgrade to dual core (on another forum) for the same model/configuration as mine and he said it did not recognized the second core(the notebook didn't start when the 2nd core was enabled).
Would a Core Solo (533 FSB) work with my current configuration? What other single core socket M proc would be a good upgrade?

 

Wait from what I'm reading from Intel's site is PM965 does not support Penryn processors, so I'm assuming it's from an individualized case to case basis as Santa Rosa platform only supports 800 FSB?

 

If you actually do have a 940 instead of a 943, then it is true that you cannot use dual-core chips. It's strange that the BIOS update would note support for dual-cores if the hardware doesn't support them, though. Possibly this is one of those cases where machines that were originally ordered with dual-cores had one chipset, and machines that were originally ordered with single-cores had the other.

The fastest Core Solo you can get is the 2.2GHz T1600. I don't know how good of a value this chip is, though.

965 does support Penryn processors given that you have BIOS support as well. However, it'll only take 800MHz FSB Penryns, so that's pretty much just the T8100, T8300, T9300, and T9500.

EDIT: Actually, T4x00 and T6x00 chips may work as they too have an 800MHz FSB. I've never tried putting a T4x00 or T6x00 chip in a 965-based machine, though.

 

Okay so it doesn't support all Penryns, only 800 FSB ones. Is that BIOS flash through Intel or through manufacturer? I've flashed to the latest Dell BIOS but that is from mid '08

 

I've got a T9300 in my M1330, PM965 chipset, with the latest BIOS which is from January 2009. But the first BIOS they put support for Penryn was back around mid 2008 I think. Just FYI.

 

If it's the Vostro 1500 in your sig... just get the latest BIOS from Dell, and it should, at the very least, take T8100, T8300, T9300, and T9500. As I said, I don't know about T4x00 or T6x00... most likely those will work, but the BIOS may complain about the architecture not being recognized.

 

Hrm alright cause I got my T7500 for free, maybe looking for additional speed.

Also had an E1405 Dell I tried putting in a T5550 1.83 GHz 667 processor into the board GM945. Says it is compatible, and board is 533/667. I have flashed the BIOS but all I get is a black screen and several beeps. Thankfully it's easy to remove the heatsink in an E1405. Bad CPU possibly?

 

T5550 is meant for Socket P systems. The E1405 is a Socket M system. It's conceivable that the E1405 has a physical socket that fits both types of chips (though that's a little surprising as most Dell's don't have those kinds of physical sockets) but the T5550 isn't supposed to work there.

 

That's weird, Wikipedia lists the T5550 as a socket M processor...but yeah it fits perfectly in the socket.

 

Where did you find that? Most of these figures are pulled from Wikipedia.

Here it is definitely says the T5550 is Socket P:

List of Intel Core 2 microprocessors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Socket M - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Odd, conflicting information on Wikipedia! ruh roh raggy!

 

No, not conflicting information. There are T5XXX processors for socket M, and T5XXX processors for socket P. Same goes for the T7XXX, Pentium T2XXX, and Celeron M 5XX series.

 

There is conflicting information. Look at the sidebar on the right:

This is just silly. It says T7700/T7800 is Socket M, T9500 is Socket M, there's a Xeon for Socket M, etc...

 

Oh, ok. Didn't catch that. That was probably done when socket P was still pretty new because those are older processors. Looking at the references, they were listing all processors for PPGA478, which because Intel is stupid, is used for both Socket M or Socket P. It's fixed now.

 

Ok, need a logic check.
I have a Dell E1505 with an Intel T2250 processor in it, which according to the intel spec sheet http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27232 uses a PPGA478 socket. Now I recently acquired a non operational (the former owner had a temper tantrum and violently separated the screen and the lower section of the laptop) Sony Vaio VGN-FZ260E which I believe to have an Intel T7250 processor in it. The intel spec sheet on the http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=31728 says it can use a PBGA479 or a PPGA478 socket. I know the FSB is 500 vs 800 Mhz, and that it's a 32bit versus a 64bit processor. Can anyone tell me whether this transplant should work or if I may damage the working dell in the process? I think they both use the same Intel Chipset on the mainboard, but I'm not sure.

Chris

 

No. The T2250 is socket M and the T7250 is socket P.

 

Commander Wolf, your E6400 SU9300???
How do you manage it? SU9300 is usually BGA956.
Thanks

 

nice +rep and this is being linked in my basic performance/OCing guide ^^

 

The chip is soldered to a PCB which has a Socket P pin configuration. You can find plenty of these on eBay, and if not the SU9300 in particular, then the SU9400 or SL9300, etc, etc. Mine happens to be ES; yours may or may not be.

 

Did your E6400 come with the SU9300? I can't find any Latitude E6400's with that processor. They are all P8x00 processors. Or did you modify yours to house the processor?

 

Dude, read what he said. Here is an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-2-du...BGA-/150516602373?pt=CPUs&hash=item230b7d1605

 

Yeah, this is pretty much what I got. I'd warn that these chips are a little bit taller than the average Socket P processor... when you reassemble everything I'd make sure what's supposed to be touching the heatsink still is touching the heatsink or bad stuff might happen.

 

But SU9xxx has fsb800. A CPU to E6400 all have fsb1066.
You do not have problems?

 

E6400 doesn't like 533MHz FSB chips, but it plays relatively well with 667MHz and 800MHz chips. If you try to use Merom-based chips with 667MHz FSB or 800MHz FSB, they will work, but the E6400 will complain about micro-code support. As far as I know, it should not complain about any Penryn-based chips.

 

Well there are Penryn based chips that are 800 FSB? Would it complain about the micro-code then or just about older Merom based chips?

 

Hi, all. Newbie here. I was referred to this forum to resolve a CPU compatibility issue. Here are the details:

I have a Dell Vostro A840n https://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/vosA840/en/sg/G514HA02MR.pdf

which has an Intel T1500 (dual core Celeron 1.87GHz, 512KB) Intel Mobile Celeron Dual-Core T1500 LF80537NE036512

I'm running 2GB of RAM on XP32 SP3.

Long story short, I want to upgrade the CPU to a T7700 (C2D 2.4Ghz, 2MB L2) Intel® Core?2 Duo Processor T7700 (4M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 800 MHz FSB) with SPEC Code(s) SLA3M, SLA43, SLADL, SLAF7

As I understand, they are both Socket P but some people say there may be a BIOS incompatibility. Is there any truth to this? I ran CPU-Z and have attached the screenshots. Please let me know if the T7700 is a viable option for me.

V.

If I have I posted in the wrong thread and/or did not do an adequate search before posting, I apologize and ask the moderator(s) to do the necessary. Thank you in advance.

 

You should be able to go to a T7700. I would update your laptop to the latest BIOS before attempting it.

 

Thanks for the reply. So basically, any 65nm Socket P CPU can work? I ask because my laptop uses integrated graphics and I'm uncertain about compatibility issues in that area. Would a T7700 need a discrete GPU to run properly? The sheer variety in mobile processors is confusing!

V.

 

Any 800 FSB Core 2 Duo/Solo/Extreme will work with PM/GM 965 chipset. I would look at a T7500 or a T8300, good value for around 100-140.

No. You have a GM965 chipset so you have X3100 GMA integrated graphics. Any processor stated above will be compatible.

 

As far as "older" (pre-Core i) processors are concerned, an integrated (chipset integrated) graphics system is exactly the same as a discrete GPU, just smaller and built into the motherboard (and even a lot of older "discrete" GPUs are soldered into the motherboard, they just don't happen to be part of the chipset). What we're more worried about is any possible BIOS incompatibility; there have been cases where the micro-code support for better processors isn't present in the BIOS which keeps the notebook from passing POST.

 

Hi Guys

I'm not an ultra tech so this is just what I know

I have an acer aspire 4310 530 Celeron 1.73GHZ laptop

Will a Intel Core 2 duo Mobile T5750 2.00GHz/2MB/667 MHz be compatible with my laptop, if not can you please throw me in some core 2 duo's that I can use, if so please tell me what they are

Thanks a lot

 

Doesn't seem possible (Core2Duo's):

See:
Acer Support: Aspire 4310 Series Specifications

 

If the specifications are correct and you have a 943 (and not a 940), it's actually one of those fuzzy situations where a C2D may or may not work. I recall most people getting 533MHz FSB Pentium Dual-Cores to work, but maybe not Core Duos or Core 2 Duos.

 

very fuzzy indeed, I tried opening the thing and it got me overwhelmed, I do have that core 2 duo lying around there for a while, its tempting to try it

 

Hi CWolf, I have a Core i7 720QM on my lappy, which is Clarksfield - based on your list and what I've checked online. Aside from the i7 820QM, can I replace the 720QM with the 920XM? What other processors are compatible?

 

740QM, 820QM, 840QM, 920XM, 940XM should all be compatible

 

As long as your cooling system can handle the 9 additional watts, then sure. I'm assuming it's going into that Sager in your signature?

 

Hmm

Perhaps the first post should mention the fact that there 2 different celeron t1400 - *t1700 (socket M single core & socket P dual core)

 

Thank you both!

Yep, it's for my lovely Sager NP8690 Sadly it's not the flagship anymore so it's about time to prepare for future upgrades. This laptop performs well in cooling the 940XM as I've seen in reviews over the net.

Was just wondering whether the newer generation processors were compatible as well and if they're also worth the upgrade - I haven't read much but as to my knowledge, 1st gen is slightly more reliable(?) <<< yeah, that's as far as I've read

 

No they are not compatible.

They aren't really less reliable themselves, the chipsets that support them are, it only affects SATA ports.

 

Yup, it's the Southbridge on the motherboard which was defective. No they are not compatible, but 920/940XM should be overkill for awhile...plus Throttlestop should be able to unleash the performance of the extreme chips...

 

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