Intel Mobile Processor Compatibility Guide

Very helpful indeed

 

Great guide.

You should add the Dothan processors 715, 725, 735, 745-SL7EN, 755-SL7EM and 765-SL7V3 processors to the socket 478 list. All are compatible with the socket 478 with FSB of 400Mhz. More importantly their cache is 2M, mucn better that some of the 512 cache processors.

 

It's already listed under 479 where the socket is the same as far as I know. Also, welcome to NBR and have fun with your T40.

 

Hellow Wolf


I have Asus x51RL , I USE SIW and it show :

CPU T2370

Chipset NORTHbridge ATI RS400/RC400/RC410 REV 01
NorthBridge SB 600

vga x1100 driver radeon

Could u Help me to decided which procie to upgrade for my laptop? a dualcore better one than this or maybe core2duo ranges type u can give me that can handle with my bios and motherboard

I had google wiki about RC410 fsb ranges 1066 but as u all know DDR2 are stuck at 800

My ddr2 Ram now use 667, i got a pair of ddr2 800 stick to and its work too
with this OEM dual core t2370

Last time i try 2+1 but bios only can see about 2,37 G ram minus 128 shared mem

thnx u wolf comander

 

Somebody can help me here too

your welcome

thnx all

 

Take a CPU-Z screenshot of your chipset.

533 FSB you might be able upgrade to Core 2 Duo, but all depends on your chipset.

 

yes i know the T2370 works fsb at 533 and actual bus speed at 133

i ve just found :

ATI Radeon? Xpress 1100 Overview

it said full support intel techno and feature, bottom line is the topic said about intel Hyperthread supporting

but whole ive check at wiki none mobile c2d or c quad have any HT features

i just need a cooler procie upgrading and more power muscle for a few aplication i work on becuz this fan heatsink system sensor just detect internal temperature room inside it , inside cashing the manual book said.

thnx 4 reply

 

Going from a Pentium dual core to a Merom Core Duo or Core 2 Duo wouldn't reduce heat. Even then FSB isn't always a guarantee for upgrading.

None of the Core 2 supports hyperthreading. Intel only reintroduced it in Core i series processors.

You would be better off saving for a new notebook.

 

yeah everybody will told about safe money and buy new lappies , but 2nd marketplaces procie or new c2d at ebay prices its intresting item to try for me

just wondering a 45nm or low power 65nm can be installed or not thats all to my mobos, theres many lappie cooler at market to help reduce heat i think

well ok i better experimenting by my ownself see just what the chipset can do then

thnx

 

hellow guyz i found this

http://notebookschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/X51RL.png

ok then as manual books i got i call local technisian asus, but yeah they did not know about it

and they just talk about upgrading CPU = overclocking >> it mean northbridge overclock and get too much heat and might make VGA dead

is that TRUE or FALSE?

as we all know overclocking is when we got 1,75 ghz CPU than use muliplier changes to 3,5 ghz

its really weird information that i got from that guyz said changes CPU hardware = overclocking

thnx u

 

Hi, I am a noob here and have read this entire thread from the beginning to the end. I have to say I have learned alot by reading all of this and I am biulding a Dell studio 1737, which has a t3400 and assuming the 45 chipset according to the specs.

I seen in the first page that this cpu can be upgraded c2d,c2x,c2q and wondering which is the best route to go? Commander Wolfe you seem to have all the answers to this and much appreciated if you can point me in the right direction.

Long story short, a neighbor of mine had given me this unit in pieces from the pryor owner who had a tantrum and completely destroyed the outer casing. I got a complete new case with a few more parts to get like ram,batt. trim and so on.

Believe it or not but the motherboard is in perfect condition and just like to bring it back to life so any expertise would be appreciated btw that chart on the first page is amazing even I was able to understand it after the second look at it.

Thanks

vasci_one

 

The Studio 1737 houses Intel's Montevina platform and either has a GM/PM45 so any 1066 Core 2 Duo is supported. You could go with a Core 2 Extreme but it is not recommended as the cooling system probably couldn't handle it. Your best bet would be like a P8x00 series processor as they are super cheap these days. I doubt the Studio has the BIOS support for the Core 2 Quad but Dell traditionally has never whitelisted CPUs.

 

Thanks for the quick reply Tsunade_Hime and checked out the prices for the
p8800 and indeed a descent price for the processor. However as I kept researching and I came across a studio 1737 exactly identical as the one that I'm biulding and it has a c2x x7900 with 8gb ram.

Just wonder if there are any heating issues with the lappy?

I have posted the image here and it is from E-bay. It shows to be a refurbished unit which they are just as good as the new ones from my experience. I hope this will be of some reference for you or anyone like me thats just making a project of a neglected laptop.


Thanks again

vasci_one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=170615481039

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=170615481039

 

The X7900 is 800 FSB which will work with your laptop, you could do the X9000 but they are quite pricey. But I doubt the 1737 cooling system could handle the Core 2 Extreme processors. You would be better off with those faster 25 watt Penryn processors, like a P8700. After a certain point unless you are rendering or running synthetic benchmarks 24/7, a faster CPU will not make a difference.

 

Thanks again for your reply and the P8700 it is and hopefully the chipset is gm45 rather than pm45 as I understand (correct me if I am wrong) that handles 8gb ram.

Just one more question... Is the 1737 worth all that I am putting into it? For it is quite a nice laptop.

Thanks again

nasci_one

 

Crucial shows the max RAM @ 4 GB. PM/GM 45 will handle 8 GB but Dell may limit the BIOS to 4. My Vostro 1500 has the similar situation, PM965 can support 8 GB as at the time of launch, 4 GB sticks were not out yet, however Dell limited the BIOS to 4 GB.

Given the cheapo prices of the P8x00 series Penryn Core 2, you can't go wrong. But dropping 300 for like a T9900 is foolish. It will be a big step up from a T3400..

 

Thank you Tsunade_Hime this is very helpful info and until a new project comes along, I will get the info from here. Also really don't want to spend no more than 300.00 for the entire 1737 project.

Cheers

 

Ok got the P8700 cpu and installed now as I was inspecting my work I noticed that the gpu isn't located near the cooling fan as I seen images of.
Now I'm confused for the gpu looks to be on top of the motherboard, so does this make a difference in the chipsets or or is it still called montevina?
Very confused here!!! Thanks

nasci_one

 

Did some research on this studio 1737 and it appears that I have a m824g motherboard with intel media grapics accelerator grapics 4500mhd. Dont know if this is a good thing or bad so any help with this is appreciated.

Thanks

nasci_one

 

can lenovo b450 with mobile intel 4 series chipset compatible with t9400?

 

according to specs you have the 800mhz fsb and the t9400 is 1066mhz fsb so you cannot go higher than 800 mhz fsb. The t7300 7500 7700 7800 all have have the 800 fsb these should work for your unit.

 

hi to all
I have an emachines 510 with Intel Celeron M 560. Cpu-z says me that I have a gl960 chipset.
Two days ago I've tried to change my cpu...I bought a t7500 and.....IT FIT!!
My laptop now (with 3 gb of Ram) is re-born!!
My question is: which is the maximum CPU I can use in my laptop?

 

Theoretically if the T7500 POSTS, then any 800 FSB Core 2 Duo should work, interesting as the GL960 chipset only officially supports 533 Celeron M processors.

 

t7500 posts and works perfectly!
I'd like to know if I could use any other cpu (best performing than 7500...)

 

random question/should be a given, but...


can I use a socket M cpu(t7200/t7600/etc) with a socket P laptop?

 

No, not compatible. I put a socket P into a socket M and it did not POST either.

 

hi, i have a Acer Extensa 4630Z, with T4200
i understand its Socket P, rated @800mhz, though it came with DDR2-666 rams,
is my highest upgrade the T9500 Socket P version?
i understand its Bus Speed, Manufacturing Process, TDP is the same,
will the slower rams affect the upgrade?

 

According to this page from acer's website, you're laptop used the intel GL40 chipset. This chipset supports only CPUs with 166 and 200 FSB. Thus the T9500 is the best CPU you can install on it. The best CPU budget wise is the T8300 though.

 

thanks man, for the confirmation,

yes T8300 doesnt hurt the pocket too much, but comparing the numbers @cpubenchmark.net,
T4200 @1266, T8300@1532 T9500@1848,
T9500 could be worth the extra dollars, offering 45% more performance while T8300 offers like 20% more.

the next step, is getting the chip and diy, should i diy? i'm comfortable with desktops diy, but now its a laptop.

 

I have the GL40 in two laptops at the moment. One has a a T7300 and the other has a T4400. I suggested the T8300 because I was told that beside been relatively cheap it overclock well. You might want to have a look at this thread about PLL modding. note that the mod if successful will work with the T4200 too.

What do you mean by DIY? Do you mean swapping the CPU around? The difficulty in upgrading laptop CPU is because sometime one has to take the laptop apart to access the CPU. I'm not familiar with your laptop. I had the Acer Aspire 4315 until about two weeks ago, and swapping the CPU around was a peace of cake. All I had to do is remove a cover at the bottom of the laptop to unveil the CPU. The upgrade took less than 5 minutes.

When you do the upgrade don't forget to clean the heatsink from the old thermal past. Use a soft cloth or the kitchen paper roll. If the CPU you're getting is a used one, it is likely that you'll have to clean it too.

Get some good quality of thermal past like AS5 or MX-3. That would reduce the operating temperature of the CPU by quite a margin.

 

thanks man, i'll poke around some more,
anyway the main reason i'll want to upgrade was to keep the matte screen, didnt want to hunt high and low for a new matte lappy if i got rid of this one, looks like matte lappies getting rarer. i cant stand glossy screens esp. in the afternoon.

yes, a faster cpu plus ssd would revive this lappy quite a bit. i'm grateful for the info, i started using pcs when monitors were plain green monochrome, and hdd werent included with pcs, hehe

 

Business laptops come with both matte and glossy screens, something to keep in mind if you want a new laptop.

Edit:
I don't know what do you use you're laptop for, but you might want to hold on buying the T9500 or even the T9300. Unless you're using CPU intensive application such as rendering or video encoding, getting either of them is not a sound investment.
Here in the UK a T9500 sells for about £100. I sold my Acer Aspire 4315 with 160GB HDD, 2GB of RAM, and a T7250 for £150 (this is after deduction of ebay and paypal fees). I'm sure that you're laptop will sell for more since it is newer than mine was. For £250 you can buy a second hand Dell latitude E6400 with at least 2GB of RAM (if not 3 or 4GB), 250GB HDD or more, and the P8700. The P8700 is as fast as the T9500 if not faster. also its cooler. The dell latitude comes with a very bright matte screen and body made of magnesium alloy.
I had a Latitude E6400 but sold it to rise some cash. It came with 4GB or RAM and the T9900. I bought it for £315.

 

hmm..of course, in the uk, there's more choices for lappies, and a larger market for 2nd hand lappies.
in sg, we have less choices and also a smaller market, lots of interesting things do not make it to the retailers here. somtimes we have to make do with what we have/can, sometimes a DIY with a chip or ssd might be the more sensible way.

thanks for the dollar and sense analysis, its very state of the art, hehe, most pple here are crazy about desktops rather than laptops.

 

I'm not in the UK at the moment. I'm travelling. Where I'm now even SSD drivers are hard to come by. Actually, it's even hard buying laptop RAMs and CPUs. If one wants to upgrade he has to buy a new laptop .

I have been using laptops for years, but when it comes to upgradeability desktops have the upper hand in particular when it come to upgrading graphics cards. Although the technology has been around for years, manufacturers are just refusing to make laptop GPUs upgradeable. If one wants a powerfull graphics cards he has to buy a new laptop. It is sad .

 

hmm...well, manufacturers are more concerned with mass production and trying to sell off their inventories, than say, making innovative changes to lappy off-the-shelve technology to prolong product life. it'll be like that for quite a long time.

the good side is that consumers get rapidly falling laptop prices, new models all the time, china's too good where mass production is involved, but not product innovation.

in real life, u dont get much choices, really.

 

you're right.

Do let us know if the upgrades are worth it.
Regards

 

Does Core 2 Duo T5200 compatible with GML GL960 Chipset ?

 

yes sure!
I try this 3 cpus: t5870, t7500, t7700...all works

only the t8100 doesn't work....damn!!

 

Interesting GL960 supports 800 FSB Merom Core 2 Duo's but not 45nm Penryn processors. PM965/GM965 supports Penryn.

 

Thanx. I would try T7X00 but they are very expensive in my country, but I think that T5200 is better than my Celeron m560.

 

T5200 is Socket M. It won't work with GL960. You need to try T5250 or T5270.

 

CPU Z says that current socket is Socket 479 mPGA . Wiki says that this is socket M Socket M - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Is it true ?
AIDA 64 says that FSB is 533 MT/s, 667 MT/s, 800MT/s - as socket M's properties. Therefore I think that my current socket is socket M.

 

I'm pretty sure that GL960 is Socket P.

 

Hmmm, I'm not sure what is my chipset - aida 64 says GL960 but Intel Chipset identification utility says ... PM965 Express chipset. What can I do ?

 

Socket 479, Socket M, and Socket P all have 479 pins, so they're all technically "479 mPGA". Socket P is paired with the 850 and 915 series chipsets. Socket M is paired with the 945 series chipsets. Socket P is paired with the 965 series chipsets.

If your laptop originally shipped with a Celeron, chances are you have a 960, and not a 965. Afaik, none of the chipset utilities are all that accurate in differentiating between the various 965 series chipsets.

What laptop do you have?

 

Acer extensa 5220.

 

If you Google it, this guy says that his 5220 with Celeron has a 960 chipset:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...pgrades/319758-acer-extensa-5220-upgrade.html

Basically I'd stick with low-FSB merom chips if you want to be safe, but a T7300 or T7500 is so cheap these days, it doesn't hurt much to give it a shot.

 

Intel chipset guide says that 960 support up to 2 GB RAM DDR2 on 533 MHz only, but my RAM works on 667 MHz...
see also that ... http://www.prikachi.com/images/178/3559178A.jpg

 

According to the datasheet (can be downloaded from intel's website) the GL960 supports both 533 and 667MHz RAM. Also, from experience on Acer and Toshiba, I can say that in most cases the GL960 can be upgraded to a 133, 166, and 200FSB CPU, e.g. Celeron M 5** series (M530, M560, M585...), Pentium Dual Core (T2310, T2330, T2370, T2390), Core 2 Duo T5*50 (T5250, T5450, T5550, T5750...) and some T5*00 series such as the T5800, and T7*00 and T7*50 series CPU. this includes all of the following: T7100, T7250, T7300, T7500, T7700, and T7800. The Celeron M520 doesn't work with the GL960 because it is a socket M CPU.


Pentium T4*00 and Core 2 Duo T6**0 although cooler and faster won't work on a laptop with a GL960 unless a BIOS upgrade is available. I tried a T4200 on a toshiba equium L40. The laptop could be turned ON but freezes at the Logo screen. I couldn't access the BIOS too.

One last thing, HP laptops with the GL960 might be upugraded from a celeron to a dual core but the upgrade might not work properly. The upgrade might result in visual artifacts or it might lead the laptop to freeze or restart after loading Windows desktop. The methods that worked for me are: 1) use windows default drives instead of Intel VGA drivers. 2) switch the laptop ON and let it freeze. Turn the laptop off by holding the power button down for 5 seconds and then turn the laptop back ON. It has been reported that booting into the BIOS first would make the laptop work properly too. We are not sure but restarting the laptop fixes the freezing and the visual artifact problems. Another solution that worked for an NBR number was to use a DDR2 PC4300 RAM.

HP uses one motherboard for their Celeron laptops and one for Pentium Dual Core and Core 2 Duo. It is possible that the GL960 on the Celeron boards is defective and can't handle the FSB increase.

 

Why here Core 2 Duo T5200 is for package 478-pin micro-FCPGA Intel Core 2 Duo T5200 processor - LF80537GE0252M - this is socket P ?