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    MXM GPU Resellers in the world

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by sicily428, Apr 29, 2017.

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    you are right :)
    those prices are really crazy :confused:
     
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    More likely sick than a crazy. Who the hell would pay so much? The golden era of it is gone for a long time...
     
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    thanks. these photos are really usefull :)
     
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    Honestly, I do not know.

    I would maybe like to steer away from the 980M's due to their potato mosfets.
     
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    do you have a photo of your old card?


    MSI Gtx980m N16E-GX-A1

    [​IMG]


    Clevo GTX980M 82x105

    [​IMG]




    MSI Gtx1060 N17E-G1-A1
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    MSI Gtx1070 N17E-G2-A1

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    Gecube Gtx1070 N17E-G2-A1
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    Zotac Gtx1060 N17E-G1-A1
    https://www.hkepc.com/14592/內建_GeForce_GTX_1060_GPU_ZOTAC_MAGNUS_EN1060_Mini_PC
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    Zotac Gtx1070 N17E-G2-A1
    http://www.funkykit.com/reviews/barebones-systems/zotac-zbox-magnus-en1070-gaming-mini-pc-review/3/

    [​IMG]
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    there isn't enough space for that msi gtx1070 because there is ram near gpu. so you need a mxm 3.0b
    [​IMG]

    MSI Gtx980m N16E-GX-A1
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    MSI Gtx1060 N17E-G1-A1
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    this is a zotac card Zotac Gtx1070 N17E-G2-A1
    upload_2017-6-16_22-54-3.jpeg
     
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    AMD Announces Embedded Radeon E9260 & E9550 - Polaris for Embedded Markets
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/10710/amd-announces-embedded-radeon-e9260-e9550


    While it’s AMD’s consumer products that get the most fanfare with new GPU launches – and rightfully so – AMD and their Radeon brand also have a solid (if quiet) business in the discrete embedded market. Here, system designers utilize discrete video cards for commercial, all-in one products. And while the technology is much the same as on the consumer side, the use cases differ, as do the support requirements. For that reason, AMD offers a separate lineup of products just for this market under the Radeon Embedded moniker.

    Now that we’ve seen AMD’s new Polaris architecture launch in the consumer world, AMD is taking the next step by refreshing the Radeon Embedded product lineup to use these new parts. To that end, this morning AMD is announcing two new Radeon Embedded video cards: the E9260 and the E9550. Based on the Polaris 11 and Polaris 10 GPUs respectively, these parts are updating the “high performance” and “ultra-high performance” segments of AMD’s embedded offerings.
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    We’ll start things off with the Embedded Radeon E9550, which is the new top-performance card in AMD’s embedded lineup. Based on AMD’s Polaris 10 GPU, this is essentially an embedded version of the consumer Radeon RX 480, offering the same number of SPs at roughly the same clockspeed. This part supersedes the last-generation E8950, which is based on AMD’s Tonga GPU, and is rated to offer around 93% better performance, thanks to the slightly wider GPU and generous clockspeed bump.

    The E9550 is offered in a single design, an MXM Type-B card that’s rated for 95W. These embedded-class MXM cards are typically based on AMD’s mobile consumer designs, and while I don’t have proper photos for comparison – AMD’s supplied photos are stock photos of older products – I’m sure it’s the same story here. Otherwise, the card is outfitted with 8GB of GDDR5, like the E8950 before it, and is capable of driving up to 6 displays. Finally, AMD will be offering the card for sale for 3 years, which again is par for the course here for AMD.

    Following up behind the E9550 is the E9260, the next step down in the refreshed Embedded Radeon lineup. This card is based on AMD’s Polaris 11 GPU, and is similar to the consumer Radeon RX 460, meaning it’s not quite a fully enabled GPU. Within AMD’s lineup it replaces the E8870, offering 2.5 TFLOPS of single precision floating point performance to the former’s 1.5 TFLOPS. AMD doesn’t list official clockspeeds for this card, but based on the throughput rating this puts its boost clock at around 1.4GHz. The card is paired with 4GB of GDDR5 on a 128-bit bus.

    Meanwhile on the power front, the E9260 is being rated for up to 50W. Notably, this is down from the 75W designation of its predecessor, as the underlying Polaris 11 GPU aims for lower power consumption. And unlike its more powerful sibling, the E9260 is being offered in two form factors: an MXM Type-A card, and a half height half length (HHHL) PCIe card. Both cards have identical performance specifications, differing only in their form factor and display options. Both cards can support up to 5 displays, though the PCIe card only has 4 physical outputs (so you’d technically need an MST hub for the 5th). Finally, both versions of the card will be offered by AMD for 5 years, which at this point would mean through 2021.

    Moving on, besides the immediate performance benefits of Polaris, AMD is also looking to leverage Polaris’s updated display controller and multimedia capabilities for the embedded market. Of particular note here is support for full H.265 video encoding and decoding, something the previous generation products lacked. And display connectivity is greatly improved too, with both HDMI 2.0 support and DisplayPort 1.3/1.4 support.
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    The immediate market for these cards will be the same general markets that previous generation products have been pitched at, including digital signage, casino gaming, and medical, all of whom make use of GPUs in various degrees and need parts to be available for a defined period of time. Across all of these markets AMD is especially playing up the 4K and HDR capabilities of the new cards, along of course with overall improved performance.

    At the same time however, AMD’s embedded group is also looking towards the future, trying to encourage customers to make better use of their GPUs for compute tasks, a market AMD considers to be in its infancy. This includes automated image analysis/diagnosis, machine learning inferencing to allow a casino machine or digital sign to react to a customer, and GPU beamforming for medical. And of course, AMD always has an eye on VR and AR, though for the embedded market in particular that’s going to be more off the beaten path.
    upload_2017-6-21_10-4-24.png
     
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    clevo-extreme Company Representative

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    I know this topic, until today no news

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G935F mit Tapatalk
     
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    So the 1070 should be doable?

    Hopefully a custom vBIOS and HWID should make it show up as plug-n-play.
     
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    the zotac card gtx1070 should be ok for that space.
    do you know if your LCD is eDP or LVDS? is there optimus in your laptop?
     
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    LVDS & Optimus.
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    Pascal cards support LCD edp display but I heard that some laptop can use Optimus.
    I'm not sure about that but here there are many people with a big knowledge about gpu upgrades
    so ask @bennyg @EepoSaurus @thegh0sts @aaronne @dzpliu @woodzstack
     
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    on partsurfer.hp
    http://partsurfer.hp.com/search.aspx

    HP M1200
    Part No: 917108-001 Description: SPS-GFX NVIDIA Quadro M1200 4GB

    HP M2200
    Part No: 917109-001 Description: SPS-GFX NVIDIA Quadro M2200 4GB

    HP P3000 Y3J90AV
    Part No: 917110-001 Description: SPS-GFX NVIDIA Quadro P3000 6GB
    http://pro-psurf-web-glb.austin.hp.com/Search.aspx?type=PROD&SearchText=Y3J90AV
    https://parts.hp.com/hpparts/Search...738EA&SearchIn=PartNumber&SearchPN=917110-001

    HP P4000
    Part No: 917111-001 Description: SPS-GFX NVIDIA Quadro P4000 8GB
    https://parts.hp.com/hpparts/Search...738EA&SearchIn=PartNumber&SearchPN=917111-001

    HP P5000
    Part No: 917112-001 Description: SPS-GFX NVIDIA Quadro P5000 16GB
    https://parts.hp.com/hpparts/Search...738EA&SearchIn=PartNumber&SearchPN=917112-001


    edit
    Fujitsu
    P3000
    CP730093-XX 34061683

    P4000
    CP730092-XX 34061682

    P5000
    CP730091-XX 34061681


    Lenovo
    M620
    01AV356 N MXM,N17M-Q3,Bitland

    P3000
    01AV355 N MXM,N17E-Q1-A1,NVIDIA

    P4000
    01AV354 N MXM,N17E-Q3-A1,NVIDIA

    P5000
    01AV353 N MXM,N17E-Q5-A1,NVIDIA
     
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    Dell

    SKU / Product Code
    [490-BDKG][490-BDKH] / P3000
    [490-BDKF][490-BDKG] / P4000
    [490-BDKG][490-BDKK] / P5000
     
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    ure doing some fantastic work here buddy, keep it up :)

    Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
     
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    thanks! Finally I found these part numbers :)
     
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    Thanks guys...

    Where can I buy P3000 in USA?
    it looks like the majority of guys don't ship to US....
     
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    I think that your best option in USA, for a Dell card, is Dell Support
     
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    Thanks, I will ask them.

    But I really like Taobao pricing. P3000M is only $580 USD (3999 Yuan).
    If a US seller sells this card, he/she will try to charge over 1000 USD... trust me.
    I hope there's a way to get this P3000M card straight from Taobao...
     
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    you are welcome! I don't know taobao, I'm sorry.
     
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    http://www.howtotao.com/taobao-global-consolidation-and-shipping/

    Thanks, I will buy P3000 from taobao... and a decent M6700 shortly.

    If you want to buy new MSI laptop with P3000, it's $3000+

    P3000 & M6700 will cost about $1100. What a saver for this amazing graphic card!
     
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    Sure,

    Do you know any other 15" laptop which can use P3000, P4000?
     
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    I don't know! I'm also searching something like that. You need a 15" with a mxm 3.0b so may be clevo p150em, clevo p750dm, clevo p750dm2, msi 16L1, msi 16L13 or msi gt62vr 6rd/7rd
     
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    Yeah, sadly not too many 15" out there now which can use P3000, P4000, etc.
    17" laptops are good but they're too heavy to carry around in backpack.
    I'm carrying M6600 in my backpack everyday but it's going to break my spine. It's too heavy.
    I'm switching to M4600 for mobile use.
     
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    msi 16L1 sounds really good btw.
    It's indeed 15" and can use larger Quadro cards!
    It doesn't look easy to buy this though.
     
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    Important:
    new cards work with edp display or optimus so check if that has one of them
     
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    Does any body need M1000M? I have planty of them now.
     
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    hahah let me help
    P5000M 16G test Version RMB 6499 ,official Version RMB 7999

    P4000M 8G test Version RMB 4999,official Version RMB5999;

    P3000M 6G test Version RMB 3499,official Version RMB4499;

    and official Version needs to pre order, the Price may change
     
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    there are new eurocom gtx1070/1080 mxm 3.0b cards :D

     
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    Nvidia should make MXM 3.0a version P3000 for 15" laptop users.
    I hope this will happen this year...
     
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    Yes..but I think MSI Titan's exterior design is better.
    It would be nice to know if Titan can use two P5000 instead of two 1080.
     
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    is the P3000 the same chip and cuda cores as the 1050 ti? If so does it come in a 4GB variety? Lastly is there some exclusive element of the Quadro line that you need in an MXM-A?
     
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    P3000 is currently availabe in MXM-B only.
    It has 6GB video memory.

    1050 Ti is available in MXM-A but 1050 is a gaming card.... P3000 is for CAD, After Effects, SolidWorks, etc.
    I hope NVidia makes an MXM-A version P3000 so we can use on M4800.
     
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    p3000 uses a GP104, gtx1060 3gb/gtx1070/gtx1080 use a GP104, gtx1050ti use a GP107 and gtx1060 6gb uses GP106
     
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    it's probably more likely that they will just leave their best maxwell mxm-a for that market segment and if they bother with pascal it will probably just be a quadro version of gp107/1050
     
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    @Eurocom Support This is a really good idea :)

    Eurocom MXM3 Riser Cards will power your desktop with a laptop GPU


    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroco...-your-desktop-with-a-laptop-GPU.241042.0.html

    External GPU Thunderbolt docks are *so* 2016. These PCIe x16 adapters will accommodate an MXM 3.x Type-A or Type-B GPU from either Nvidia or AMD for connecting straight onto a standard PC motherboard.
    [​IMG]

    While more and more manufacturers are scrambling to create eGPU docking solutions based on Thunderbolt 3, Eurocom has been looking the other way to create a hollow PCIe x16 desktop Riser Card for mounting MXM 3.x GPUs normally found on very high-end notebooks like the Eurocom Sky DLX7 or MSI GT72/ GT75VR series. The goal is to enable users to easily utilize a laptop graphics card in a desktop or mini PC environment.

    Two versions of the Eurocom Riser Card will be made available designed specifically for either AMD or Nvidia MXM GPUs. These cards will offer either 6-pin or 8-pin power connectors with multiple DisplayPort ports - features that are normally found on off-the-shelf desktop video cards but are otherwise missing on MXM video cards. Users can install up to the MXM GTX 1080 or MXM RX 580 and an included removable fan and heat sink will then sit atop the MXM card once it is mounted in place.

    From a conceptual standpoint, the new PCIe x16 Riser Card introduces a lot of questions. Bandwidth shouldn't be an issue since PCIe x16 offers over three times the performance of Thunderbolt 3 (15.6 GB/s vs. 5 GB/s), but we're eager to see how the vBIOS will adapt to a completely new system that the original MXM GPU was never intended to synchronize with. Will the special fan be louder than a typical desktop graphics card? Will Turbo Boost performance be bottlenecked or even improved in any way?

    The market for such MXM to PCIe adapters is likely very limited especially considering that MXM graphics cards are not currently sold as standalone products. Similar unofficial adapters already exist from Chinese vendors, but we'll soon be testing the Eurocom product to answer all our burning questions.

    Release dates and prices will be made public in the coming weeks. In the meantime, see the official Whitepaper below.
    [​IMG]
     
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    I don't know what the point of something like this is, when a 1080 MXM card costs over $1,000 US Dollars, and a 1070 MXM card costs over $500. You can get a desktop 1080 Ti for that type of money.
    Bigger problem: What's up with the heatsink arrangement? I did ask this before and didn't get a clear answer, but why is there a "980M" type heatsink arrangement for the 1070, but also a "1080" type heatsink arrangement that is completely different, on both the 1070 and 1080?
     
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    Miners, and cheaper cards like $300usd rx480/rx580s and $500-600 1070s which are not ridiculous prices given how the prices of desktop cards are crazy high now. The mxm versions also tend to be better perf/W which miners like. They're also smaller so more can be stuffed in a given space (tho not with that riser board, that's wider than desktop cards by the looks of it) - but when your hardware sits on shelves in open air rather than in cases, not an issue

    The different heatsinks might be for the MSI 1070 which is almost mxm3.0b like the 980m, and the Clevo 1070/1080 which are quite different (bigger pcb, different core location, added power connector, memory spread over 3 sides, different vrm locations, etc)
     
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