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    Measure your Dual/Multi Core Notebook CPU Speed - Bye Bye to SuperPI

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Gophn, May 17, 2007.

  1. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Fired up my older notebook and here's what I got:

    32M: 64.891 seconds
    1024M: 35.1638 minutes

    Compaq R4000
    Athlon64 3800+ @ 2.4GHz (single-core)
    768MB DDR333
    Windows Vista Ultimate
     
  2. DragoonThug

    DragoonThug Notebook Enthusiast

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    Asus W2V - Windows Media Center / SP2
    Dothan 2.13ghz
    84.875 sec
     
  3. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    That score seems inaccurate, it should be half that time.

    Remember to make sure that
    - you plug your notebook into AC Power (to give maximum performnce)
    - wPrime is set to 2 Threads in the Advanced Settings.

    And make sure that you have configured your XP to fully support multi-core CPUs by doing the XP hotfix

    EDIT: Sorry didnt see that it was a single core Pentium M :)
     
  4. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    R4000,
    Thats a nice single core score. :)

    Why is this your old notebook? It seems pretty nice, except it can use a bit more RAM... then it would be a nice all-around notebook. Then it would beat the Sempron system that you have.
     
  5. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, aside from the clunkier design and fan noise it is a superior performing notebook to the V5201. It even has the 128MB dedicated vram x200m, which is leaps better than the shared version in my present lappy. However, the 130nm Newcastle cpu in it runs pretty hot compared to my newer 90nm Albany (Sempron).

    Anyway, the R4000 was a test pig for Vista during the beta/release candidate stages. When Vista went RTM, the stock ram was removed and donated to other machines. I never even bothered to put XP back on it and just let the machine sit idle for months. I only fired it up with the junky "filler" ram to run your benchmark test. ;)


    :)

    Mike
     
  6. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    LOL. I guess the heat and fan noise would be a consideration to move onto another notebook. But for "junky filler" RAM, it still gave a good benchmark. :)
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Hey guys,

    I appreciate all of the participation.

    I am working on a new table ranking system, so if you post your score if you can.

    Free REP for those that participate [or already have participated]. :D
     
  8. Evolution

    Evolution Vox Sola

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    It appears to me that so far everyone has reported a notebook's time but since my notebook model and relative time has already been posted I thought I would run this test on my P4 custom desktop just to give you an idea how far we have come from the P4 Ghz race days.

    Processor: Intel Pentium 4 (Prescott core) 3.2Ghz HT
    Time: 90.14sec :eek: (this is the slowest time yet!)
    Windows XP Professional

    WOW compared to some of the other times posted here hyperthreading does not make running two processes fast, this processor seemed to struggle compared to my turion x2. IMO dual cores will blow away HT any day!!!
     
  9. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Thanks for posting, although that score might not be fully accurate.. especially since you are using XP (some mods needed to give your CPU full performance)

    Remember to make sure that
    - you plug your notebook into AC Power (to give maximum performnce)
    - wPrime is set to 2 Threads in the Advanced Settings.
    - (if using XP 32-bit w/ Service Pack2) make sure that you have configured your XP to fully support multi-core CPUs by doing the XP hotfix (install XP hotfix, registry add-on, and BOOT.ini add-on)
     
  10. Evolution

    Evolution Vox Sola

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    Gophn you seemed to misunderstand my post, that time was from my P4 (Prescott core) desktop so the plug in part was not applicable. :)
    I also made sure that wPrime was set to 2 threads, however I will do the test again after applying the dual core fix but I doubt it will improve that time by much (I applied that fix to my aspire 5102 several months ago but never got around to doing it on the desktop :eek: ).

    I gave this time to show that hyperthreading (simulated dual core) and the Pentium 4s ageing/ dead NetBurst core architecture are just no match for modern true dual core processors, but I think you only want notebooks in this thread so this wPrime time perhaps is irrelevant...
     
  11. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    :) saying Prescott does not mean that its only desktop, I have a couple of friends with that CPU in their notebooks (Clevo beasts).

    In any case, thanks for the quick replies.
     
  12. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Fastest time yet.

    Thanks VirtueTech for participating. :)
     
  13. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Anyone else think its funny that the 2 fastest laptops so far are Thinkpads, and not "gaming" machines? :p
     
  14. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    its just CPU benchmarking :)

    And i just noticed that too, LOL.

    Just wait until someone posts the new Clevo D900C (with a desktop Core 2 Duo/Extreme). ;)
     
  15. TedJ

    TedJ Asus fan in a can!

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    I'm glad that SuperPI is finally being put to pasture... with the widespread availability of multi-core CPUs it was becoming less and less relevant as an accurate benchmark.

    This was brought to a head with the release of the T7 series Core 2 Duos with their 4MB L2 cache. Being an unrealistically cache-dependant app, we were seeing ridiculous apparent performance increases versus the equivalently clocked Core Duo CPU.
     
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    jabba Notebook Geek

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    Dual booting between XP SP2 and XP x64 SP2. The regular XP is 4 seconds faster. 53 seconds to 57 seconds on multiple tests. Anyone know why? I thought x64 is supposed to be the faster OS?

    my processor is a Turion 64 X2 with 2GB 667
     
  17. rahkunn

    rahkunn Notebook Consultant

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    Tested under XP SP2, right after dusting out my baby :)
     

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    rahkunn Notebook Consultant

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    If I remember correctly, having a 64bit CPU is only beneficial when you use the 64bit application, which will only run under 64bit OSs. I'm sure this test program only regards 32bit processing (as it runs under 32bit OSs), so indeed it should not distinguish between the 32bit and 64bit CPUs.
     
  19. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Here's the result against which the others can be judged.

    The CPU is the 633MHz Crusoe with its legs tied together by 128MB RAM and Windows ME.

    608.792s for 32M means just over 10 minutes while 21332.352s for 1024M is 5.92 hours.

    John
     

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  20. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    All tables updated. :)

    John, that Crusoe is a beast. :)
     
  21. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Is a snail a beast? It didn't seem that slow when I bought it! I think the other computers have got faster. But all that hard work didn't make the fan come on (because there isn't one).

    John

    PS: It is not in a desktop but a Fujitsu P2020 notebook
     
  22. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Ahh.. I see. Just updated it. :)

    Definitely a notebook with a score that most cant match. ;)
     
  23. _radditz_

    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    My score is 52.75s, see sig for spec and pic for proof.

    BTW i did the CPU fix from your other thread including updating boot.ini and i got the same time in this and both super pi. The time in Wprime only changed by like 0.02 s!!
     

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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    got it, looks to be the right score for that CPU. :)
     
  25. STEvil

    STEvil Notebook Consultant

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    Just to let you guys know, but wprime is not a very good stability test either.

    My Dual 5120 server at 2700mhz can run the 32m calculation in almost less than 16 seconds and takes just under 500 seconds to run the 1024m calculation (old scores on hwbot at the moment).

    What would be nice is a loop option.

    Systool (which has pi benching built in) has this option.


    All that said, my T7400es gets: http://www.hwbot.org/user.do?userId=5266

    32m - 40s 20ms http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=570343
    1024m - 21m 13s 250ms http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=570336
     
  26. Mr._Kubelwagen

    Mr._Kubelwagen More machine now than man

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    Well, my Single-Core P4 2.6 GHz got 169.705s on 32m. I'm too afraid it will break if I try 1024 :p.

    Specs are (Desktop)
    Dell Dimension 8300
    P4 2.6 GHz
    XP Home SP2
    1 GB RAM
    Radeon 9800 PRO 128 MB

    Wow, I can't wait for my G1s.
     

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  27. slumbermann

    slumbermann Notebook Evangelist

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    btw... i tried to run this wprime on my notebook with Vista Home Premium German version... but i got an error msg, "unknown error;quitting"... but i tried to run it on my desktop with XP Home Edition SP2... its running without problem...

    is it because my vista installation is faulty?
     
  28. Gophn

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    did you try the console version instead?

    http://www.wprime.net/wPrime_r142.zip
     
  29. slumbermann

    slumbermann Notebook Evangelist

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    not yet... okay... will give a go with the console... cause i was not sure if i should try the other version... thanks for the quick reply Gophn... :)
     
  30. Gophn

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    STEvil and Mr._Kubelwage, thanks for the participation. :)

    Hall of Fame updated.
     
  31. slumbermann

    slumbermann Notebook Evangelist

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    btw.. the problem settled after i choose to run the program as administrator... then i can run it normally. without a problem. so here is my result...

    Samsung Q35 Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66Ghz | Vista Home Premium
    32M 50,264secs
    1024M 1597,687secs

    and just some extra from my old desktop...

    FS scaleo 600 Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT | XP SP2
    32M 89,359secs
    1024M 3160,187secs
     
  32. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Got it and updated the hall of fame.

    Thanks for the extra info on the Vista admin issue with this benchmark. :)
     
  33. EgoZum

    EgoZum Notebook Geek

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    here's mine
    32M 70.54secs
    1024M 2450secs

    Aspire 5102AWLMi
    AMD Turion 64 mobile technology MK-38 (2.2 GHz, 512kb L2 cache)
    15.4" WXGA Acer CrystalBrite LCD(16ms)
    Up to 384MB ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 HyperMemory
    120 GB HDD
    DVD-Super Multi double layer(Support DVR+/- Double Layer/DVR+/-RW)
    1GB DDR2
    802.11B/G WIRELESS LAN
    OS - Window Vista Home Premium
     
  34. slumbermann

    slumbermann Notebook Evangelist

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    Additional info... the admin account is needed on XP Profesional too...

    cause I try to run this software on PC at my office, using normal user account... same error.

    So Admin right is needed to run this benchmark on XP n Vista... just some info for others..
     
  35. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Thanks for posting your scores. :)

    That AMD Turion seems like a great CPU... especially for the supposed inexpensive notebooks. :)

    Thanks for the info, i'll note it on the thread. :)
     
  36. EgoZum

    EgoZum Notebook Geek

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    your welcome m8
     
  37. MrSneis

    MrSneis Notebook Consultant

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    can I join the list?

    32M 30.265 sec
    1024M 955.266 sec

    Sager 9750

    AMD [email protected]/Vista Ultimate x64
     
  38. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    nice!! AMD FX-60 FTW! :notworthy:

    Finally a true high-end notebook with all the bells and whistles. ;)
     
  39. slumbermann

    slumbermann Notebook Evangelist

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    nice result... :) impressive... I guess this is the best result for now is it?
     
  40. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Yup this AMD FX-60 score just blew away the competition.

    Leave it to Clevo to use desktop CPU's in their notebooks to yield such power. :)
     
  41. slumbermann

    slumbermann Notebook Evangelist

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    maybe this is lil bit off the topic here... but by mean... currently only clevo manufactured notebook why such high processor capabilities is it?
    interesting.... cause such notebooks can be such powerfull... :D
     
  42. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    The Clevo Dxxx series have been infamous for all being desktop replacement models that use desktop CPUs.

    But the main downside is the batterylife. With a 12-cell in these models, the average batterylife is 1.3-1.5 hours.

    The newest D900C [w/ desktop Core 2 Duo/Extreme] should blow away the D900K's score [w/ Athlon FX-60].

    I am just waiting for the benchmarks.

    I believe that a few other ODMs (like Asus) are about to release some models using desktop CPUs... but Clevo has pretty much cornered that market niche... thats why they have been known to make the craziest notebooks.
     
  43. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Its still better than the 45 minutes I got with a 12-cell on my A64 3800+ desktop replacement lappy (R4000). Horrible battery life......... ;)
     
  44. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    LOL. I get that time if I am trying to game. :)

    These desktop replacements are definitely great for power on the go, but with dismal batterylife.
     
  45. Xonar

    Xonar Notebook Deity

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    Uh, oh I smell trouble! Gophn's wrong!?!?!

    Just playin' with you ;) ;) ;) ;)

    Again, a nice piece of work put together by Gophn.
     
  46. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    The D900C score is up w/ E6700. 2nd top score... for the moment. :)

    It is slightly slower than the FX-60, but I think it should be near the same if the benchmark was done in Vista.

    I know that if someone sticks a X6800 in the D900C, that score should be #1.
     
  47. STEvil

    STEvil Notebook Consultant

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    Vista doesnt help Wprime, it is not coded in 64-bit.

    Thats one heck of a fast FX-60, beats all the others on hwbot.org !
     
  48. Xonar

    Xonar Notebook Deity

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    Well, that's not a fair fight? ;) That just steals the fun out of competition, comparing two processors from different time frames, and knowing who's the victor. ;)
     
  49. _radditz_

    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    I got ~27 mins in stress test, see pic.
     

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    Thanks for the new stress test score. :)

    Hall of fame is updated.
     
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