Monitoring Notebook Temps: nVidia & ATI, CPU, HDD - Do your temps worry you?

so I took apart the entire notebook, more than just opening up the fan and heat sink. there were HUGE dust balls underneath different parts of the chassis. once cleaning those out it made a massive difference.

I tried several different drivers with no success. It wasn't until I took the entire frame apart on the chassis that I was able to remove all the dust. Now it looks at though it will run as it is intended.

The image that follows is after 3DMark06... AFTER it was cleaned of all dust.

 

Sick thread man
I was given a link to this, and must say it is wicked!!
Learned a way to benchmark that is better than FRAPS

PS - Dio12 - Your image is huge, I have to scroll quite a lot. Can you re size it?? thanks

 

I like the new Penryn CPU's. Both cores are at 33 C.

 

Jedisolo, the cpu you have is Montevina not Penryn. At least assuming you're talking about the one in your sig..

 

Montevina is the new platform. The CPU is the second generation Penryn.

 

I made a guide to incorporate everest and rivatuner. check it out in my sig

 

I have re-done the guide already, just havent updated it yet... too busy.

I will finalize it soon.

 

Hey gophn sorry to bother you, I have the DV7T with the Nvidia 9200M GS 256 MB card, I'm seeing a max temp of 96 c under gaming conditions, I tried to run rivatuner, but no joy, has no temp monitoring option, any ideas? Any help at all would be appreciated.

 

the 9200M GS is a hybrid on-board GPU... which pretty much means its not dedicated.

It shares its memory with your system memory.

RivaTuner and other temp monitors would not detect the temps of the videocard unless if its dedicated.

You can try HWmonitor, but if your videocard does not come up, then it would mean that your videocard is really just integrated and not discrete.

visit the NBR Cooling Central for look at safe temps and how to bring them down.

 

Um sorry to correct you, but it is 256 MB of "Dedicated memory" it also has a secondary pipeline that pulls from system memory, it's basiclly a dual processing GPU.

 

if it is fully dedicated there is no reason why RivaTuner would not pick it up... just make sure to disable UAC and driver signing.

try HWmonitor to see if it reads the videocard's temp

 

hardware monitor is where I get the Temps from it identifies it just fine, how do I disable UAC and Driver signing?

 

http://thebackroomtech.com/2007/11/05/howto-disabling-driver-signing-in-windows-vista-64-bit/
http://digiex.net/guides-tutorials/...ive-yourself-full-rights-over-your-files.html

 

Ok followed the links you sent rivatuner detects the card, correctly, but no temp, clock speed or other available

 

if RivaTuner, HWmonitor, etc... can not detect the temp, then there might not be a temp monitor sensor.... which is uncommon for Nvidia cards.

But ATI cards for a while had the same issue, no temp monitoring due to the lack of a temp sensor.

 

My temps while doing some word work, internet and basic programs at school.
I think they're alright?

 

looks fine.

 

rebdk, how cold is your room?
Those temperatures seem kind of low to me
Are you using a laptop cooler, or do you just have the air conditioning blaring

K-TRON

 

well it is lifted a bit from the table.. thats about it

 

I tried using HWMonitor to detect the temp on my HP DV5T harddrive. It's a Fujitsu MHZ2250 BH. It's a 250GB HD. HWMonitor doesn't show the temp for it. Anyone else have this problem?

 

Great guide!

i got rivatuner working and its great program but cant get it to display either fps or temp in crysis which was my main purpose for getting the program since i need to keep a close eye on my temps (ive seen them get to 88C). any ideas?

im really bummed that NHC doesnt work with 64-bit because as you know the m860tu hdd temperature is a concern for most owners and it would be great to be able to monitor both GPU temps and HDD temps from the system tray. I know hardware monitor works but i have to alt+tab rather than the system tray to see it and i have to launch the program at each startup. is there another program that can do that?

i used a program called StatBar on xp and it was great http://www.statbar.nl/. As far as i can tell its no longer supported though . it would put a 20 pixel bar at the top or bottom of the screen that would let you monitor cpu, ram, network usage, battery, etc all with graph displays. i know there are widgets for the sidebar, but i would much prefer being able to watch these components on the fly with an always on top program that doesnt take up so much screen real estate.

 

Is it bad if my processor continually goes over 80 degress Celsius? How can I cool it without buying external coolers? The laptop gets so hot that I cannot even use it on my lap!

It's a Toshiba Satellite running an Athlon 64 X2. XD

 

1) you are not supposed to use it on your lap, especially if you are blocking the bottom vents/fans.... which will not get enough airflow to properly cool the notebook.

2) you should only use the notebook on clean, hard, flat surfaces....
- NEVER on soft surfaces like beds, couches, laps, etc...
- if you really want to use it on your lap, get a LapDesk or hard, flat spare wood panel.

3) make sure to clean out the vents and fans of the notebook regularly (once a month at least) with compressed air (cans or compressor).

 

I better start watching out about my laptop temperature

 

Got an m1530 with an 8600m GT DDR3. While playing Crysis Warhead GPU temp reached 84C and CPU temp gets to 80C. Every 2 minutes the friggin game downclocks to like 3-4 fps for like 40 sec before going back to a smooth 25-30 fps...

Is it supposed to be doing this? Shouldn't a laptop GPU be able to push 95C without it being too dangerous? I'm currently using the 179.28 official beta drivers from nvidia.

Part of it is that the desk in my dorm room is pretty crowded...the desk at my house is not and i've noticed lower idle/gaming temps there. Would something like a USB cooling pad help a lot with the random downclocks?

 

GPU temps are still within safe limits, but your CPU is way too hot. You should definitely try cleaning out your vents and fan. See if that helps lower your temps. CPU should generally max out at around 60C.

 

Hey guys i have a quick question. Im running a Sager 9260 and am montoring the temps now since ive been getting some recent slowdowns in game.

I sprayed some compressed air into the vents and now monitoring temps for last 15-20 minutes~. These are my results...

Tempertures Via Everest Ultimate Edition

CPU--- 52C(124)
CPU#1/Core#1---48C to 52C(118F)
CPU#1/Core#---46C(115F)
GPU Diode---90C(194F)
FUJITSU MHW2120BH---39C(102F) <---------Hard Drive???


EDIT- I also am running riva tuner. It says my CORE TEMP is 84 to 85C. I dont know which one is more accurate. So yea, heelp hehe.
Are these numbers too high now? Ive ran the game for a while, so am wondering if these are numbers that i should worry about. Any help on my question would be great!!!!

edit 2- I checked my laptop cooler and it also has dust build upo in the fans i will definable use compressed air later wen i buy more. Maybe that is causing heating issues. Also, the video card my laptop has a a nvidia go 7950 gtx 512 mb. I heard some video cards run hotter than others. Whats th right range for the one in particular?

 

Hi

Nice guide here Gophn. I installed RivaTuner v2.22, and it displayed the GPU temp fine while gaming. After a restart I open the hardware monitoring window, but it won't display the temps anymore, while gaming. Reinstalled RivaTuner, and it was the same again: good untill a restart. Do you know about this problem?
D900t, with vista home sp1.

 

if you cleaned out the vents and fans thoroughly, the temps should stay under 90C.... which is safe for a high-end card.

if the temp remains high after a cleaning:
- make sure the system is being used on a clean, hard, flat surface so the bottom vents/fans are not being blocked
- make sure that the ambient temp is not too warm/hot (a heated room can greatly affect the temp of a notebook)
- you can double check the heatsinks of the GPU to make sure they are secured
- maybe you can just re-apply some thermal compound (like Arctic Silver) while you are in there

 

Hmm... that sounds strange.

did you make sure the RivaTuner Statistics Server is running before starting the Hardware Monitor window?

if so, then make sure that RivaTuner is "ran as administrator".... or disable UAC to see if the problem goes away.

 

OK. I think I know the reason for my problem. The RivaTuner Statistics Server was not running.

The lowest GPU Temp. Full vent speed:



On AC power, Full vent speed:



Oh, and thank you for the tutorials.

 

Hey Gophn, just an FYI, RivaTuner is now version 2.24. In your guide you state it as v2.05:

You links still point to the right site though

EDIT: Thought I'd add this here..
To monitor my GPU temp, I use this Sidebar gadget: http://download.orbmu2k.de/files/nvidia.zip (sorry, I only have the direct download link ). I use dual monitors, so I keep the sidebar on my secondary monitor so I can see this gadget while I'm gaming.

 

Admission: I haven't bothered to read this whole thread, so...

I only know that I had a Sager 9860 that was super, in it's time, for gaming until I installed a temp monitoring/fan speed app. Shortly thereafter, it wouldn't run games for --high temp warning would constantly come on when running flightsims or any intensive games.

I cleaned it, I did everything I could think of, or find on the internet, to fix this problem, but eventually ended up with a $3000 web surfer.

Don't know if this applies here (again, I didn't read the whole thread), but, buyer beware.

 

if the vents are really cleaned out and the temps are still high.... then...
- you might need to open up the videocard module and re-apply thermal compound.
- you need to use the Fan Toggle (Fn+F2) to switch all fans to max speed when gaming.
- (optional) get a good notebook cooler like Zalman ZM-NC2000

 

Updated.... finally.

enjoy the detailed RivaTuner video tutorial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3BbI-8ICk

RivaTuner Video Tutorial:
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Note: this is the video version, the full high-definition shockwave navigation version guide will be up on Gophn.com

 

Very nice, I like

I'm excited to see the the shockwave version on Gophn.com !

 

ok so I followed the video tutorial step by step with rivatuner to monitor the temps, it worked just fine last night, but I change the start up with windows option. Now I double checked everything, it's the same, I have the hardware monitor running, the server running, riva running, the temps are shown in tray, but not in game... what could be the problem? :-??

 

How can I run the statistics server before running the hardware monitor? Is there any other way to launch the server besides from the hardware monitor? Thanks.

LE: I spent about 2 hours trying to understand what I have done wrong... but it was just the game. I was playing hellgate, it didn't show the scores, but in all other games, it worked. what a waste of time, should ve tried another game earlier. lol

 

thats strange, the RivaTuner OSD should show up in every Direct3D and OpenGL games.

 

yup that's really strange, moreover yesterday it worked in hellgate as well, but not today. But I could monitor the temps by showing them in the little logitech display near the screen, though that's not as practical as having them on the big screen.
Anyway a great tutorial, thanks Gophn!

LE: forgot to say, +repped!

 

Updated it.

Added new section for threads that keep coming up.

" What Temps are Good/Bad? Am I overheating?"

And added Real Temp as a CPU monitoring tool.

 

I don't know if anyone has experienced this, but for the longest time I could not get the Aero theme to work correctly on my Vista Business x64. I closed out a bunch of programs, one at a time, to see which one was conflicting with Aero and lo-and-behold it was the RivaTuner Statistics Server app (RTSS.exe). I always use it to monitor my temperatures in-game. Not sure if it's been mentioned before, just thought I should post it in case anyone was having issues.

By the way, great guide!

 

Very Fabulous Guide

Now my question is;
Would it be any other CPU Temp software that could work with Riva Tuner beside the Ultimate Everest (paid software)? if yes, please guide me how to work it together with RT. thanks in advance.

 

yes there is.

Real Temp will work as well since it will give the CPU info into a RivaTuner plugin... like the Everest Ultimate.

Works only for Intel Core CPUs (single Core Soo, Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, and new Core i7) at this moment.

 

Hey umm I just reinstalled vista, and I absolutely don't remember how I got rivatuner working in 64-bit last time.. I get the message to restart my computer to disable driver signing, but when it restarts the driver signing is still there..? But I had it working on my previous vista installation. But my previous vista was pretty broken too :/ Any tips?

I am running vista/ubuntu x64 in dual boot if that changes anything.

 

I have found that the programs listed here all give me different CPU temperature readings; some of the differences are nearly 15C higher, that reading normally coming from HWMonitor.

Which program should I actually trust?

Running on a T6500/ATI 4570 if that helps.

Furthermore, GPU temps aren't listed.

Suggestions?

 

I personnally found HW monitor to be really accurate. I'd suggest this one. Everest ultimate is also great, although limited in the trial version. They both give me the same temps for CPU,HDD,GPU.

And do you mean the gpu temps aren't showing in any of the programs? (Like the 2 I mentioned?)

 

Precisely.

Too bad, HWMonitor is always the hottest readings

 

Well basing yourself on the highest rating is the safest way to go, so I would stick with hw monitor. And if your gpu temps aren't showing, then that's pretty weird.. Maybe you don't have any sensor? What's your notebook? (and your gpu?)

 

Asus U80V.

ATI 4570.