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    Monitoring Notebook Temps: nVidia & ATI, CPU, HDD - Do your temps worry you?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Gophn, Oct 8, 2006.

  1. drnilly007

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    Thank you for this guide, I was really getting concerned when my Gateway's GPU started reaching 73C under load
     
  3. zirdaj

    zirdaj Notebook Consultant

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    Why is it that when I run HWmonitor on my notebook, I don't see the HDD nor the GPU temps? I have the latest version (1.15). For my desktop, however, all it shows is the GPU temp. I must be doing something wrong? On the CPUID website, there is an image of HWmonitor showing lots of items that isn't present on mine when I run the program.
     
  4. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    if you have an SSD it won't show those temps, not sure why your GPU isn't showing. there really isn't any "doing something wrong" with HWmonitor.
     
  5. zirdaj

    zirdaj Notebook Consultant

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    I have a regular hard drive. I have an issue with CPU-z as well (also from CPUID), where it couldn't tell if I am in single or dual channel despite having 2 x 2gb identical sticks of RAM.
     
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    :cool: hi how can i find driver for camera that bilt in laptop ML3054 OR FL92
     
  7. lizard5

    lizard5 Notebook Consultant

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    i ran hw monitor and i have the computer listed in my sig...however it only shows temperatures for two cores...shouldnt i have 4?
     
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    nickquang Newbie

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    Hi there, I'm newbie here. Is it normal if my system has temp like this image ? :confused:

    XPS 1645 - i7 720 QM - 6Gb 1333Mhz

    Thanks
     

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    Judicator Judged and found wanting.

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    Those look to be about normal, yes, if that's relatively idle or under light load.
     
  10. droes

    droes Notebook Geek

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    Second that, those temps look fine for light load.
     
  11. wishmaster.dj

    wishmaster.dj Notebook Evangelist

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    those are absolutely fine temperatures.

    an i7 runs hotter than most chips in the market.
     
  12. Hrithan2020

    Hrithan2020 Notebook Geek

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    Seems perfectly fine, mine (CPU) runs at around 55-60 for normal loading (movies,installing etc) situations.

    On a side note, which software are you using? I am now using HWMonitor for CPU(Can't seem to find GPU temps there?) and GPU-Z for GPU temps. A small utility which displays all that is great.(Or is it a full system information utility, which I prefer not to use, as I can't see all the sensor datas immediately, contains too much info for my taste ;) )

    Edit: I guess you are using HWMonitor, it is supposed to monitor temps of GPU+CPU, but is right now not working, will check into that.
     
  13. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    HWmonitor has problems finding certain GPUs. For example, it detects the 9650M GT in my N50, however it doen't display any information for the HD5870 in my G73. HWiNFO32 or GPU-Z usually detect GPUs that HWmonitor can't find. For ATI cards, i'd got with the AMD GPU clock tool anyways, especially if you have a high end card. For example, when on battery, the GPU core downclocks to 300MHz, however the memory stays at 1000MHz, using the GPU clock tool, i can easily downclock it to 200 core/300 memory reducing heat generation and improving overall battery life (overdrive is disabled in the asus version of the mobility HD5870 so you can't overclock using the CCC).

    Yup, those temps a pretty normal. The i7 in my G73 also idles around 50, so far it went up to 60 while gaming and stays around 55 under normal load.
     
  14. Hrithan2020

    Hrithan2020 Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for the excellent suggestion. Will definitely try it.

    By the way,my problem with HWMonitor vanished as soon as I installed the Intel Rapid Storage Tech. And, it seems installing the ATI 10.5 drivers also resolve this issue.

    What is your ambient temperature?
     
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    tijo Sacred Blame

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    Processor is at around 50C right now (reported by HWiNFO32), thermostat indicates 25C, windows open, slight breeze and outdoor temperature at 21C.

    EDIT: I'd gladly install the 10.5 CCC, however, lots of users on the forum have reported getting GSODs on drivers other than the ones provides by asus and with the GPU clock tool, i can overclock my GPU to 800/1100.

    EDIT2: processor temps reported with opera and HWiNFO32 running so it's under rather minor load. If you want, i'll report my temps after a couple hours of playing Guild Wars (old game, i know :D). After 3 hours, one core went as high as 65, all 4 cores were at 60 most of the time.
     
  16. Hrithan2020

    Hrithan2020 Notebook Geek

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    I have installed both 10.4 CCC and 10.5 and haven't faced any problems so far, but why fix somehting that ain't broke ;) (Unless, it brings serious performance increase in the games you play).

    It seems my laptop runs quite hot(maybe thermal paste hasn't properly settled in or wasn't properly applied in the first place; plus cooling is bound to be better for Asus G73(mine is N61-JQ)). For me, within 3-4 minutes of gaming(AC II, Just Cause II etc), the temps jump to around 82 C for GPU and 80-85 for CPU.
     
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    Hrithan2020 Notebook Geek

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    @tijo,
    Had a small doubt. In the AMD GPU Clock Tool, do you have to manually downclock the card, everytime you are on battery? Or is there a way to do it automatically?

    Also, I am seeing the option to set the Vdcc, but after setting Vdcc to a lower voltage, didn't see any improvement. In fact, after fiddling with the settings, I noticed that my GPU Idle temps have increased by 3 C(to 64 C) :confused:

    Do we have to restart the laptop, for the settings to take effect?
     
  18. tijo

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    Nope, you don't have to restart the laptop for the settings to take effect. However, it's odd that you see a 3C increase (unless you just started the notebook, then it's normal for your GPU to get warmer in the beginning)

    Wait a bit after booting windows before checking what are the normal idle temps on your GPU.

    For example: stock clocks on my 5870: 700/1000. When i start the notebook and launch the clock tool just after login in, the core temps is around 40-50C. However, the card idles around 55-60 after a while and stays there.

    On 200/300, i get around 10-15 degrees lower depending on ambient temperatures. I'm not sure if you can use the clock tool to undervolt. The only method i know that really works is through editing the vBios.

    EDIT: If powerplay is enabled, you will have to change the clocks every time you go from AC to battery and vice-versa.
     
  19. Hrithan2020

    Hrithan2020 Notebook Geek

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    @tijo,
    I have been checking the idle/working temps of my GPU for some time now.(But the variables keep changing, with my zalmann nc 2000 active/passive etc).
    So, I am quite sure that it was a 3 C difference compared to the average.
    But have to check properly.

    So, from what I understand, you have to manually set the clocks to a lower speed and increase it manually when gaming is required? (If powerplay is enabled, then the clocks would be reset, and in max. battery saving mode, it will only decrease the core clocks?)

    EDIT:I created a shortcut with additional parameters where both the core and memory was set to 200(Read somewhere in the net about this), and then placed it to run in startup. So, now the temperatures have come down to 55-57 C, and surprisingly the CPU came down to 49-53 C(from 60-62 C)!! So, pretty big improvement. Have created custom shortcuts for setting to default clock and overclocked(haven't tested overclock) though.
     
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    tijo Sacred Blame

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    Depending on the design of the notebook, it's possible that some of the heat coming from the GPU goes to the CPU if they are close enough to each other. Also, if they are both using the same fan, this could explain the overall higher temps. At a set speed, the fan/heatsink can only dissipate a certain amount of heat. If the GPU is hotter, then it's logical for the CPU to get a bit hotter also if they are cooled by the same fan.

    As far as overclocking goes, the card in your N61 should handle pretty much anything you throw at it with decent settings (at your native screen resolution of course). If you want to overclock, i would ask in the N61 owner's lounge if anyone has done so before.
     
  21. Hrithan2020

    Hrithan2020 Notebook Geek

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    Similar to what I thought.

    Yeah, it works really well at native resolution.So,don't really see any value to overclocking my already hot card.Besides, my N61 comes with a 90 W adapter, compared to the 135(?) W adapter of N71;(from what I recall, only person with N71 has done overclock; but not sure) so would be better to not risk frying the adapter.

    But, may try just for curiosity's sake. I figure a 10% overclock for 5 mins, won't cause any damage.
     
  22. Terraflare

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    Hi Hrithan, I've recently gotten an N61JQ as well, with the i7 and the 5730MR. Similiarly, have been worrying a little about temps for this laptop (ambient temp about 30 degrees C in Singapore), on roughly 20-30 mins of gaming on COD MW2 (20-25% cpu load only monitored by realtemp), i log up to 84-85 degrees C (avg 81 degrees C on 3 cores, one core spikes to 87 occasionally without airconditioning on). My GPU hits 80 degrees C max (dont think this is too much of a problem).

    Ive also recently bought a notepal U2 and adjusted 1 fan to blow directly into the small vent in the middle and another over the graphics card area (which has no vents :( ). Havent been seeing much improvement as the air intakes are very small (im actually not even sure which is the main intake).

    Would you suggest some other methods to try cooling? I guess i could downclock the GPU like u did to get better idle temps, worried about gaming temps though, even if they arent critical throttling levels, am pretty sure they will affect the lifespan of the components.
     
  23. Hrithan2020

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    Well, according to some owners, the CPU temps, go down after a couple of month's use(because thermal paste needs heat/time to spread out evenly, thus facilitating better cooling). So, I am hoping for some small temp. decrease under load.(Since it seems the temperature of CPU lowering by 5 C, would probably decrease the temperature of the nearby GPU).

    I also am looking for ways to decrease the temperture under load, though it is still in the safe level. (Maybe MSI Afterburner can help. You can adjust the fan loading. For eg. you can set the fan speed to 100% if the temperature is above 80 C, to 90% if temperature above 75 deg C etc..).
    Please give it a try; for idle temps, I found that it didn't make any difference.

    Do let me know, if it helps. I too am interested, but rather busy nowadays, to give it a proper try :(
     
  24. Terraflare

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    Yes ok i will try that to see if i can up the fan speed. Im not so concerned about idle temps because as you said it doesnt really make any difference and the i7 is made to run hotter. But gaming temps of 85+ degrees are somewhat a concern especially taking into consideration other components lifespan.

    I wonder why they didnt just put a vent right below the GPU section though, seems mighty obvious that a fan blowing straight in there would lower temps of the heatsink itself by alot.

    Will let you know if im successful in anything
     
  25. Hrithan2020

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    What I meant was that the idle temperatures didn't go down, even when I upped the fan speed to around 60-65%(from the default 30%). (That is what I meant by , it didn't make any difference). I personally think ,that having lower idle temps might also work in increasing the life of the components, though the load temps would make the most difference.

    True, it would certainly have helped. Hope it works well enough for you, so that I can also use this app :D
     
  26. Nsxrrmaniac

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    Hey guys, I tried to search for average core i5 temps and read about dual core danger zone temps, but wasn't able to find any info. This is a new laptop I just picked up with a core i5 450m and it runs 40-60 doing regular tasks and then can jump to 80*c while playing bfbc2 and gta iv. I've seen it go as high as 91*c. I think the threshold temp for this core i5 is 105*c. should i send this thing back and look for a new machine? Strangely enough the core i7 dv6t's seem to run cooler?
     
  27. Hrithan2020

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    91 C peak temp for a corei5 seems abnormally high. I'd suggest you do an RMA on the lap or send it back.
     
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    Hey guys, I'm using my xps 1530 to play games, and during play-time the temps on my dual core's CPU(it's a t7500) go up to about 75-85(I have 91C as my current highest point, using CPUID to monitor).

    The laptop is acouple years old, and I haven't bothered tracking temperatures until recently.

    Is this really problematic? My notebook is still under Dell's warranty, but I don't really know what I can do to make it run cooler when I play games (idle temps seem fine, about 50ish or less per core).
     
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    To answer the original question at the start of this thread:

    MSI A6200-206US Laptop
    Intel i3 350M cpu with Intel HD graphics
    Thermal operating spec: 65W 105C max
    Max temp while gaming: 82C

    no, I do not worry about the temps and except for gaming and othe rsuch cpu/gpu intensive stuff, it runs 53-55C maxing in the low 60's duirng DVD play, etc

    great little machine, especially for $500 or less
     
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    Thank for this thread. I grabbed the Notebook Hardware Control v2.06 and also: I got the Everest: AIDA64 Business Edition to use on my notebook and the PC.

    THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HEADS UP!
    JE
     
  32. debguy

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    The values for HDDs in the initial post are 5°C too high. Most manufacturers specify their HDDs to work up to 55°C. Some go up to 60°C (WD, Seagate, and afair newer Fujitsu drives).
    65°C is too high. If your HDD dies and the SMART data shows that it has been running above the specified maximum temperature the manufacturer will refuse to replace it within warranty regulations.
     
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    Hey guys, i have an Acer 5750G with a i7 2630QM and when i play games the temps are always in danger zone according to this guide even with TurboBoost deactived. The max temperature was 84º C playing 1 hour to GTA4.

    I'm so worried about that but i asked for temps of the same i7 procesor and diferent manufacturers and the people says they have the same "problem", practicly same temps at idle and at full.

    The notebook have 1 month and i don't know what to do, if talk to acer service or live with that temps...

    What would you do?

    PS: I have a Tacens Vinci, but the temps down anything, 1 or 2º at most...

    Thanks in advance and sorry y english.
     
  34. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    10-08-2006, and still going...
     
  35. JOSEA

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    I am surprised a company like asus does not at least have a gadget to monitor GPU and CPU temps at least built into the images it provides for its gaming laptops. I always downclock unless I am gaming or viewing videos to keep temps down also, but still check often.
     
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