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Hi everyone! Nice thread; I posted a thread here earlier about thermal paste... http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3523239

Anyone know if I can remove the stock thermal "tape" like materials and replace it with arctic silver ceramique?? Thanks

 

Yep, I will be doing some undervolting right now to help keep temps down while I'm running the 8600m GT at much higher speeds than default.

I don't know about I8Kfan though. I tried it, and maybe I didn't set it up right, but I wasn't able to do anything with it. I'm mostly interested in just being able to set the fans to run at a higher, but constant speed, cause I really hate how the funs turn on, then off, then back on, etc. I'd rather they just stayed on. THB, I can't see how it's good for the health of the components to constantly be cycling the fans like that which in turn causes heat buildup instead of constantly being forced out of the system.

 

Hi all, I have a brand-new Toshiba Satellite Pro U400 and I'm not sure whether what I'm seeing is normal or not. It has a 2.1 GHz T8100 Core 2 Duo and 3 GB of RAM. The potential problem is that it idles hot, even down at 0.95V (the minimum) and on the 6x multiplier the core temps are 55-60 C with just a few percent load. The computer itself is not noticeably hot to the touch except near the wireless card, but the fan comes on every 30 seconds or so even when I'm not doing anything. My old laptop with a Banias Pentium M idled at about 40 C by way of comparison, and the fan hardly ever came on unless it was running high load for several minutes. If I run Orthos with the multiplier at 10.5x it only climbs to core temps of 65-70, with the fan running all the time of course.

Does this seem out-of-spec or is it normal for the Penryn family to idle so hot? I'd like to get some feel for it before I call Toshiba to complain. I'm not sure whether their warranty lets me open the case and mess with the heatsink or not. If anyone has a similar laptop/processor and could share their experience with idle temperatures I'd be grateful to hear about it.

 

clean your vents with compressed air ^

 

Hi Badadee, thanks for the reply, but this thing is less than one week old. I'm not the world's greatest housekeeper but even I couldn't clog it up with dust that quickly!

I'm more wondering whether there is a problem or if that's just the way Core 2 Duo processors are, so I can decide whether to ask Toshiba to do something about it.

 

I use the normal vacuum machine.

 

DO NOT use a regular vacuum. Vacuums create static electricity therefore can damage components within your notebook.

 

I recommend you call Toshiba and see what they can do. It may be that the thermal pad or paste they used was not installed properly causing that high temperature. By calling Toshiba you will be able to avoid voiding your warranty.

 

^^agreed.

new systems overheating is usually a faulty cooling system and/or un-secured heatsink/pipes.

 

Needs a little bump.

 

wow nice, thats what I was looking for. filling the FAQ now...

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
vostro 1400

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
t7100 C2D, 8400gs
3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)

I think my CPU is fine (35-55), I dont have data on my HDD(dont think its a problem), my GPU is the concern, it idles at 55, used to go up to low 90s under load (games). just did some cleaning not long ago (blowing compressed air through without opening the computer) some games such as NFS carbon 78C, WoW 85C

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
anything not too hard to do or expensive

5. Budget for cooling solutions?
~20
6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
all my computer knowledge are in theory (can do some stuff with software quite decently) but nearly "0" knowledge in terms of opening computer up, and swap parts etc


hope you can get to me way down on the list, thanks

 

Well, my temps are getting really high when I play CoD4, and although it's not nearly as high on other games, I'd like to play CoD4 for more than 30 minutes without having to stop to save my GPU from dying.. I hope you guys can help me out =] thanks, appreciate it

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1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
Gateway P-6831FX

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
Everything Stock

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
CPU Idle ~ 55
CPU Load ~ 80

GPU Idle ~ 60
GPU Load ~ 90 (after that I just quit)

HDD Idle ~ 55
HDD load ~ 55?

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )

Preferably passive, I'd like my notebook to be able to fend for itself from the heat demon but if that's not possible then I guess I can turn to active solutions.

5. Budget for cooling solutions?

As low as possible, but if it's absolutely necessary I can save for however much needed.

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Well, I know some general stuff, but I've never actually taken apart my notebook so I'll say beginner

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O think you will need a cooler, 55C hdd temp is really quite high. As for the GPU, the cooler will cover that too. For the CPU I think i could do with abit of undervolting. Have you tried cleaning the fans?

Cooler recommendation -> NC-2000

@660hpv12...I'll get back to you.

 

hmm, i think that the m1530 is already pretty decent with the cooling. just make sure u keep the cooling system clean and that u use the 9 cell or elevate ur laptop. and also under volt the CPU and monitor temps. on that note, what are ur temps.

 

First off you could try and undervolt the cpu, Im sure the 80 degrees is helping heating up your GPU a little bit. Well work from there.

 

I thought my laptop was heating up badly. 80C for CPU? wow. I'm not a expert but I think its the fans that needs cleaning. are those temps generated when the laptop is on a hard surface?

 

Yes of course do that aswell.

 

just cleaned the notebook last weekend, but it didn't even really need it. I could undervolt the CPU, but wouldn't that lower my fps? I mean.. if I'm not mistaken the CPU seems to be the bottleneck right now. And yes, this is on a hard surface.

To the person who said I should get a cooler, isn't it somewhat unnecessary? I mean some people with the same notebook peak at 70C, so why is it that only I have to get a cooler? Do you think it would be possible to return it and ask for another one? I'm still under warranty(unless installing XP destroyed that option)

 

Undervolting is different from underclocking, you wont miss out on performance.

Peak at 70c is fine, having a cooler just helps with the temperatures. Warranty only covers hardware.

 

No its not unnecessary, its not CPU specific, look at your hdd temp, that is boarder-lining dangerous for a hdd. Also...10C is quite a big difference.

 

^^ agrees with johnny and I would say 10C is a amazing difference. Considering lots of people can only lower temps only a few degrees.

 

Sweat this is great i must see what you have to say thats why im filling this faq +Rep for sure keep up the good work.

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)? I own a Dell XPS M1530

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
Intel core 2 Duo T9300 2.5Ghz, 8600GT, 4GB RAM, 15" screen (no der!), WD 320GB hard drive.

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
CPU:40-69 Deg. GPU: 56-70

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) ) I am looking for anything that wont void my warranty

5. Budget for cooling solutions?
ied say max $20-30
6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Ied say in between the two like intermediate merr that title will do.

 

I recommend undervolting your CPU, killing unnecessary processes, and if you can (save up) to grab a notebook cooler. Of course first start with cleaning out your vents

 

Yeah UV'ing and cleaning 1st. But because m1530 isnt too frendly with coolers and also you temperatures are actually looking pretty good anyway. A cooler could be added later, but is not an immediate need.

 

Wow i just undervolted and my temps dropped massively thaks alot guy buying a cooler tommorpw

 

Thats great to hear. Mind you, i don't think you;ll need to spent too much on a cooler, just something that ensures your notebook is sucking up cool air constantly. (ie, keeping the underside on the notebook cool)

 

what should the maximum temperature for the CPU be?

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?

ASUS F8Sn-C1


2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)

Details in Sig


3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)

Vista (idle) (stressed)
CPU (core1/core2): (26/23) (58/57)
GPU: (51) (72) <--after GPU stress test, if CPU is stressed too can go up to 75C
HDD: (31) (37)

Ubuntu (after boot up) (after an hour of basic programming/web use)
CPU: (34) (45-55) <-- not full stress, just after basic use
GPU: (55?) (60-67) <-- not full stress, just running compiz effects. I checked and powermizer is working
HDD: (31) (51) <--the HDD starts at 31 for a few minutes, then rises and stays near 50C

I was mainly wondering how to lower my Ubuntu Temperatures as they seem much higher than my temperatures in Vista. Vista temperatures also go back to idle very quickly whereas Ubuntu temperatures seem to hover around the second values.


4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )

I already use a notebook cooler when able and have undervolted in vista. Mostly wondering about Ubuntu solutions. I found a guide on undervolting in Ubuntu, but I was wondering if anyone had prior experience.

I also had to make some tweaks to the HDD (namely enabling laptop-mode) in order to lower the HDD cycle up count (which would kill my HDD in less than a year)

I followed this fix.


5. Budget for cooling solutions?

As long as its not too extravagant


6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)

Intermediate, still learning the ropes in Ubuntu

 

The maximum a CPU can hand varies from different generation of CPUs. Generally 100C is the MAX. I usually aim to stay well below 70C.

Sorry I'll have to wait for someone else to help you with Ubuntu... But one thing, Your idle CPU temp in Vista seems to be really, and I mean really low. Your CPU temp in Ubuntu actually looks normal for a C2D. Which cooler do you have by the way?

All your other temps looks fine, including GPU temps. But your hdd temp in ubuntu seems high.

 

The notebook cooler didn't actually do much for my idle temperatures (maybe because I would suspend my notebook over my A/C while at home before I got the cooler .)

I am using the Zalman NC-1000. My CPU idle temps fluctuated a bit before stabilizing at the temps posted above. A week after undervolting they would idle at 28/28, but now they drop to 26/23 if I'm just doing light web browsing (1 window open at a time), using Pidgin or any task that doesn't raise the multiplier over x6. Also, I have yet to encounter a problem with my undervolt (no BSoD/crashes since the UV 2 months ago) which actually was pretty modest compared to some voltage drops other people were attaining, but I'm not complaining . I bought some arctic 5 thermal paste, but am hesitant to use it unless I really need it.

Thanks for your input!

Screenie below! (These temps are actually before my cooler came, and I also noticed the CPU min was 24/23, but I don't see the first core drop that low on a regular basis. The cooler did help my stress temperatures by a few C.)

 

I see, coolers dont generally help idle temps much because the notebook's fan is usually not on at low temps. Coolers are really there to ensure the notebook's fans get a good supply of cool air. have you tried using other programs to monitor the CPU temp?

UV'ing is a funny old thing, I tried to low my voltages further more a few weeks back. Went through the stress test fine, worked fine under normal conditions, but when i played games (CS:S in this case) it crashes afetr 20 min or so. So I had to put the voltage back up again (although still lower than before).

 

I've also used RMClock to check CPU temps, but those report temperatures a few C lower than those shown by HWMonitor, so I go with the higher ones to be safe.

 

very nice guide folks

thanks for the great effort!!!!

 

really... cleaning your fans and vents help. For me, before my GPU stays around 92 ~94. Now, the GPU goes as high as 86 ~ 88. (I see lots of people complaining when they have 80 or so)

The dust may not be visible in small places, but after a good clean with compressed air, the heat sink should perform better.

Also, after undervolting, my CPU does drastically lower in temperature, but it doesn't do much for the temp of the GPU. very dissappointed

 

No it wont help GPU temp because UV'ing only affect the voltage goin to your CPU...

 

but the heatsink would be more directed at GPU wouldnt you think? only one processor heating up instead of two

 

No...it is still attached to the same heat sink and heat spreader...unfortunately.

 

Correct! impressive johnny you have gotton past white belt to green

 

Just gave my notebook a clean, CPU temp have dropped by about 3-4C...

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
Dell Inspiron 1501
2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
See sig.
3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
Attached.
4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
Undervolting.
5. Budget for cooling solutions?
I'd prefer not to spends a whole lot.
6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Expert.

I'm going on a trip in a few days and I'd like to maximize my battery life and maximize my cooling

 

Your temperatures are actually quite good thomas.

First off for cooling giving your notebook fans a cleaning is always a great start.

For undervolting please refer to flipfires thread, its linked on the first page

The component sticking out for me is the hard drive. runnign at 49C is "kind of" high. I recommend you kill/stop unnecessary processes. There is a small section on the first page under software

Good luck!

 

Actually, that's not to good, I set it to the lowest multiplier.
Better pic attached.

 

I still recommend you follow the steps above. If you have the money and the knowledge and do not mind voiding your warranty. applying thermal paste may also be worth a shot.

 

Well, it's out of warranty anyway...so....
LOL, Im willing, undervolting my proc is first, RMClock says .5500v is enough for my lowest multiplier, gonna test that.
EDIT: It doesn't lol...
I set it to .7500, system crashes

 

lol No way .550v , even a ULV processor couldnt go that low.

Pentium M's or whatever the AMD equivalent is, can go around .700-.800v for idle. Mine is set at .700v idle and .988v max. The fans literally never comes on. I can take it out, as its just excess weight =D

 

Nice!, fans don't come on when I underclock either, which is nice

 

Good to hear Thomas

 

I think 1.4GHz is enough, and it keeps it below 40C, which is nice
Its at 37C right now

 

Hi, I need some advice because I'm planning to buy a notebook cooler.

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
HP Pavilion dv2777TX

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
Intel Core 2 Duo T8100 2.1GHz | 250GB 5400RPM HDD | 2GB DDR2 RAM | HD DVD ROM | Vista Home Premium | FingerPrint Reader | WebCam | 14.1'' LCD | nVidia GeForce 8400M GS

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
min~max
CPU 45~57
GPU 55~56
HDD 50~50
This is my new laptop so I haven't try to run any game yet.

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
Coolers and others.

5. Budget for cooling solutions?
No idea, around $20~$50 USD, I'm from different country, the budget can cause by the shipping fees.

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Beginner++ Immediate. I think so.

 

Hello

I recommend you undervolt the processor if you want extra cooling for a cooler check out the buyers guide but check out specifically the Zalman NC1000 or Cooler Master Notepal Infinite. As for you HD temps I recommend cutting unnecesary processes.

Good luck!