Next gen laptop GPU's are under NDA until Jan '19.
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Nvida RTX 2080 LAPTOP Release Date and Performance? Here's my thoughts...
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Zotac RTX 2080 Amp!, MSI RTX 2080, & Founders Edition 2080
Gamers Nexus
Published on Aug 23, 2018
We look at the Zotac RTX 2080 Amp! on the show floor of Gamescom, alongside the MSI RTX 2080 and NVIDIA Founders Edition 2080.
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There are a lot of good makes now, and you can hardly go "wrong" with any of them.
Given that, every model and design stands on it's own, and even EVGA has dropped the ball requiring mass repairs, but recovered nicely with even better hardware in their next release.
There are some less well known Chinese brands too, not the "fakes", but real serious new brands - but that may be something for Asian owners to pursue, unless you have a direct path for support from where you live.
These "GPU"'s are so expensive and complex, such a big investment for "normal" people, these non-enthusiasts are buying them for quite a while now, it's really important for makes to bring excellent quality and customer service to the owners in order to stay in business.
Read up on the Zotac company website, Zotac reviews, and compare Zotac models against other brands to see if they are compatible with your personal point of view.
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"Phone Customer Support can be called via phone at: +1 (877)-599-6822 Hours of operation are from 9 a.m. PST to 6 p.m. PST – Monday through Friday. Customer Support by phone is not accessible during weekends (Saturday and Sunday) or on ZOTAC USA observed holidays.
Customer Service | ZOTAC Store
newegg has Zotac listings:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...ion=zotac+rtx+2080&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
PNY is good too, and I posted some "Pre-order" links earlier, already one has changed to "AutoNotify":
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...ption=pny+rtx+2080&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
Wow, all of the 2080ti models are sold out and are on "AutoNotify":
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709 601321492&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36
2080 models are still available for pre-order:
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Podcast #510 - NVIDIA 2080 Launch, blockchain gaming, and more!
PC Perspective
RTX Coverage starts at 24:05
Published on Aug 23, 2018
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NVIDIA teases RTX 2080 performance and features
Turing vs Volta: Two Chips Enter. No One Dies.
Asus Announces ROG Strix, Dual, and Turbo Series RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 2080 Graphics Cards
0:55:30 The power of excess, Lian Li's Strimer RGB power cables
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It also bothers me that there is a component that needs to be generated for each game at Nvidia, and downloaded by each user, in order to get benefit's of DLSS - and it needs to be enabled in the game.
These AI assist technologies are new, and ever changing. How long will Nvidia commit to bringing out those SuperComputer generated AI assist game downloads for this generation, and will all future games get these assist files made for these cards?
It's all new stuff, need to see it in action in owners computers with supporting games to see if this AI assisted 4k looks as good as real rendered 4k.
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A Supercomputer & AI Will Power NVIDIA RTX GPU's | What Is DLSS | NVIDIA RTX 2080 Performance
Just Another Gaming Site
Published on Aug 23, 2018
At Gamescom 2018 NVIDIA Unveiled their brand new GPU's featuring the RTX platform. We sat down with Tony Tamasi, Senior Vice President of Content and Technology at Nvidia to understand what exactly is RTX and dive deep into one of its many features, DLSS that is set to give a HUGE boost to GPU performance for upcoming games.
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Trying to keep it as simple as possible, just my thoughts on this.
Nvidia has left over stock of Pascal - goes into the 11x0 in laptops, this was really not expected but we can say thanks to AMD no answer as usual since they are financially not healthy to pull it off, 2018 for laptops on both Intel and Ngreedia markets. Next AMD GPU is 7nm Vega 2019, to add they skipped the 12nm TSMC. But damn at-least they could try the RX580 MXMs in CF instead of the WX7100 sadness which doesn't run on Clevo machines at all or even the VGA LVDS support. They didn't bother to try at all, because all their moneys are in the conslows... a massive shame, they deserve to be kicked in gut by Nvidia..
Now Nvidia announced the RTX. RT is new, most acclaimed due to the shine it adds and the depth to the CG and make them more realistic and the way how Rasterization + RT = Hybrid model of theirs to take advantage of both, then they are using good chunk of the GPU die to run the RT cores for the RTX software stack which aligns with the DX12's (a crap shoot, Win10 is a must now Vulkan RT will take time I guess even though they announced it) DXR and Tensor cores for the DLSS - Which is apparently like DSR but the cooler thing is DLAA imo, Anti Aliasing without the GPU tank, instead offloaded to AI/Tensor cores.
The catch here is the RT gaming demos. Have a read at the AT article on the initial impressions of the DXR-RT RTX Blah blah gaming. And then have a look at the RT gameplay trailers, the SOTR, looks almost like ROTTR given that this is 2018 game and how their new shiny GPU fails to keep up at 1080P, Hitman 2 also announced the RTX support right, please look at the gameplay trailer for that game and tell me how it fares vs the Square Enix Hitman visually speaking, heck even compare that to DOOM 2016 it looks ultra dated... Then the Metro Exodus latest gameplay, which is again played on an Xbox (imo there's only one trailer which is played on PC and it's beautiful without any RTX drama I believe, its from E3 2017). All this RT technology is superb looking "on paper", where are the true games that take the development on the damn PC platform not on console garbage. Reminds me about the old Watchdogs E3 showcase, the CDPR is holding back their CB2077 behind walls due to the backlash for the TW3 downgrade mess and It already looks cartoonistic. Same like WD2 after the backlash for Ubisoft. The only game which I think looks fantastic is the Snowdrop Engine powered The Division 2, but unfortunately its MMO. And how can we forget the Last of Us 2 on PS4 which looks fantastic alongside God of War 4 (Spoiler) look how this SOTR with RT looks dated vs them, developed on the RX580 class GPUs with Jaguar cores. Basically we didn't even get the games which pushes the Pascal..Forgot to add Control, from Remedy which also looks good, perhaps it will look best with RTX GPUs and RT support.
And the RTX exactly feels like Hairworks, a.k.a Gimpworks where it rekts GPUs the difference is only the DXR api now, it wont die off but instead evolve overtime. The pricing is gone ridiculous thanks to AMD, we don't have anyone to save from Ngreeedia ramming us. And the 12FFN, there will again be a 7nm refresh (Since Volta is/was focused more on the Professional industry with AI and DL and they had no competition so milk with garbage 1050 and 1070 Ti, now they announce RTX Turing since they'll have a headstart on AMD Vega 7nm before it hits) later I believe once 7nm HVM kicks off at TSMC aiding to release the new generation of consoles since PS4 started to be EOLed soon, well if they plan for 5nm TSMC then we are SOL, since the GPUs in Consoles are so underpowered vs Maxwell and Pascal just rapes them, while Turing will probably decimate them so we dont get any beautiful games at 1080P like the RTX is poised to do so. Pascal was die shrinked Maxwell so I think RTX gen 2 will be better to invest on IMO rather than shellout huge chunks of cash on the Nvidia trick RT expensive for both FPS and the damn wallet as well.
Shame that MXM (Since it's NBR forum) is dead and I'm waiting to hear the worst news of the evolution of Falcon FW lockdown on RTX GPUs if they ever happen or heck even the 11x0 MXMs, since gamers who play either play the lootbox filled EA trash or the console mass over power the PC gaming (Since PC gaming titles which are top are PUBG, LoL, DotA2 nothing is intensive or taxing or even SP)
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News Corner | Nvidia RTX 2080 Performance, Ray Tracing Demos Cripple 2080 Ti
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Aug 24, 2018
Be Skeptical, Be Hopeful
BPS Customs
Published on Aug 23, 2018
NVIDIA upgrades L1 and L2 caches for Turing
Published: 23rd Aug 2018, 20:02
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-upgrades-l1-and-l2-caches-for-turing
" NVIDIA Turing gets a bigger L2 cache
For Turing NVIDIA doubled the bandwidth for the L1 cache. Architectural design changes improved the latency and capacity of L1 cache, which is now 2.7 times as big as Pascal’s.
The L2 cache has been upgraded to 6MB, which is 3MB more than Pascal.
This slide was presented at Editors’ Day yesterday in Cologne. You are not supposed to see it till September 14, so don’t tell anyone."
Exclusive: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 (Ti) Editors’ Day leaks
Published: 22nd Aug 2018, 21:50 GMT
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Also there are rumblings Nvidia is going to push for SLI/Nvlink support again. Nvlink has new untapped potential. And the frame buffer is combined and 11gb becomes 22gb from what I've read. I may have to go SLI/Nvlink on this bad boy. -
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I don't find $1200 that that ridiculous when people are buying far more expensive Intel HEDT CPUs. $1200 isn't even the MSRP, it's simply the early adopter tax. After these cards are readily available the price will drop and might get back to the MSRP starting price of $999.Aroc likes this. -
Such a GTX 2080Ti classic might include addition shaders or other circuits for raster processing. And let the market decide which product to buy. NVIDIA offers what is in their interests rather than the customers' and it shows. I would have been happy to get real time ray tracing in a professional SKU (like Titan or Quadro) and those interested in that technology buy those products.
To do that is customer disservice and the height of corporate arrogance and mistake not seen since New Coke. Normally I like NVIDIA partially because of its founding roots from SGI (same technical chops as those RISC UNIX 3D workstations) but perhaps NVIDIA is destined to make similar misguided mistakes as many of the failed and shuttered computer companies we've seen over the last 45 years. Except it is doubtful NVIDIA will go under. -
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UL (Not Futuremark anymore) jump on the new Nvidia hype as well... I wonder what or if they will charge for this update
3DMark Time Spy Raytracing Benchmark Update To Arrive Next Month
By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 08/24/2018 05:07 PM |
Raytracing, or for us in specific, DirectX Raytracing is going to be a popular topic for the times to come. NVIDIA just announced their GeForce 2070, 2080 and 2080 Ti with Raytracing cores. Meanwhile, some time ago Futuremark announced a Raytracing version of Time Spy. As it now looks, it'll be released next month Read more...Robbo99999 likes this. -
August 2018 Q&A [Part 1]: Is Ray-Tracing the Future?
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Aug 25, 2018
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Just Buy It: Why Nvidia RTX GPUs Are Worth the Money
Comments
LOMAXROBERT 1 day ago
"i dont think i have ever read a more poorly thought out reason to buy a new component with no data to back it up, "its just a dont think buy it now approach". myself im getting a bit tired of the power creep from nvidia bleeding gamers dry"
HETZBH_ 1 day ago
Avram,
I wouldn't recommend *ANYONE* to buy a GPU, no matter *what* GPU and from whatever vendor, until at least the reviews will be out. Sure, nVidia claims that the new RTX 2080 is 50-125% faster, compared to the 1080Ti.
That's great, but nVidia is a business company would like to push as much as it can it's GPU, while reviewers care about their integrity and real results.
So I suggest: Wait for the results, then decide if you want to purchase or not."
Avram Piltch is likely not the right choice to head an independent review site...
AMD has choosen to deliver that kind of product to the console market, as that's where they can get the most immediate traction for their investment - really a co-investment by AMD + Sony and AMD + Microsoft, and I would assume that AMD will also continue in that realm when AMD or AMD + Partner get enough capital together to make a real "RTX" threat against Nvidia.
But, now that Nvidia has pulled this split personality product out of their bag of tricks, AMD might be able to simply roll out the 7nm versions of their current architecture and cash in on the buyers that want cost effective performance in current games, without RTX features.
Even if Nvidia is able to deliver RTX+DLSS "fluffed" FPS - rendering at a lower resolution and fluffing it to the display resolution - there is a fidelity cost to that end result that AMD when rendering at native resolution could 1-up Nvidia by continuing to be more cost effective.
Nvidia has opened up the field to AMD to deliver better product at a cheaper price point, avoiding delivery on all of AMD's investment in RTX features for a few years, giving AMD time to make a better showing than Nvidia's premeire RTX products - especially as real hands on use shows how worthless RTX lower fidelity (DLSS) / lower frame rates (RT) are in relation to cost.
Nvidia should have gone one more generation, and maybe even 2 generations - when Nvidia are deep in 7nm or even 5nm production - when there is more performance, die space, and thermal headroom.
Nvidia jumped the gun on this, likely to produce a publicly visible "use" for tensor cores, which could in the end backfire on them.
Is NOW the BEST Time to Buy a NEW GPU?
The Good Old Gamer
Published on Aug 25, 2018
With Geforce RTX GPUs is NOW the right time to BUY a new GPU?
Battlefield V Producer Says Raytracing Is Freaking Cool (David Sirland), Thinks It’ll Be Standard in a Console Generation or Two
By Alessio Palumbo, 9 hours ago
https://wccftech.com/bfv-producer-raytracing-freaking-cool/
" I personally play on low settings, vsync off, no triple buffering – I hear ya..."
— David Sirland (@tiggr_) August 23, 2018
Let's Complain: Nvidia's RTX 2080 Ti Keynote at Gamescom
It'sAGundam
Published on Aug 25, 2018
This goes out to Jensens Jacket the star of the show
Warning: they swapped the colors, Green is AMD and Red is Nvidia:
GTX 1060 vs RX 580 - Post RTX Update
UFD Tech
Published on Aug 24, 2018
Which GPU would you choose currently? Which one did you decide on previously? Do you think the landscape between the GTX 1060 6GB & the RX 580 have changed since the RTX 20-series was announced?
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ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Close-up (Gamescom 2018)
Beyond Pixels
Published on Aug 25, 2018
Enjoy our ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Close-up-Video directly from gamescom 2018 in Cologne.
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Aug 26, 2018
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The Nvidia GEFORCE RTX 20 SERIES - TO BUY OR NOT TO BUY?
goldfries
Published on Aug 26, 2018
The price is out, specs are available and pre-orders are open too.
The only thing that's lacking now is the benchmarks, in this video I highlight what I think are the factors one should consider, or at least ponder about before hitting that PRE-ORDER button. Skip this video if you have deep pockets or want bragging rights, order that GTX 2080 Ti right now!
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A build motivated by available options at better / best pricing in a long time + RTX vs 1080ti commentary + 80186 HP 100lx
Antec DF500 RGB, MSI Gaming TrioX 1080Ti & Intel 8086k Build + Benchmarks
Level1Techs
Published on Aug 26, 2018
#Level1Builds
5.2ghz all core OC 8086k
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid 240R RGB
Adata XPG NVMe
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WTH is this?...better watch it quick, he's gotten one version taken down with a strike against his channel...
Battlefield V EARLY ALPHA RTX Build on Rotterdam Nvidia RTX 2080Ti 1080p Ultra
SkilledRebuilds
Published on Aug 27, 2018
ALPHA ALPHA ALPHA
OKAY, Good, Yesterday's video was taken down.
Here is another one from the same footage source, which was never that great to begin with.
Adobe Premiere INTERPOLATED 60fps via Optical Flow causes artifacts as well here... for SLOWMOTION simulation so you can pick out some reflections for longer.
Upscaled to 1440p, source is 1080p Ultra 60fps with stuttering so I cut it up and am showing select scenes.
SkilledRebuilds 3 hours ago (edited)
"EARLY ALPHA BUILD - Yesterdays BFV Video was taken down... I also got striked :O ADOBE PREMIERE PROCESS (Optical FLOW - 60FPS) Makes the Games UI "Shift" - Not the Alpha. ARTIFACTS APPARENT from Source. STUTTERING in Source. iE Video has it's own fare share of issues. Source - 1080p 60fps, using 1080p Ultra on RTX ENABLED 2080TI."
1337ghomri 1 hour ago
"What was the framerate like?"
SkilledRebuilds 1 hour ago (edited)
"Mostly 50-60FPS, but its the stuttering that REALLY kills it. Drops to 0FPS for a second a few times.... and many micro micro stutters throughout. Hardly a second goes by without it,... but its Alpha, so its normal as per most Alpha's Pre-beta don't have great performance."
SkilledRebuilds 1 hour ago
"I'll likely reupload the source again (but it'll get deleted within a day)"
Yutao Chen 50 minutes ago
"Cant even stable at 60 fps in 1080p..... That's terrible : ( probably wont consider buying an RTX graphic card until this technology gets more mature."
SkilledRebuilds 40 minutes ago
"Agreed, 1080p RTX on a 1440-2160p panel will also look like ass."Robbo99999 and Aroc like this. -
Nvidia's $1200 Ray Tracing magic done years ago, by PowerVR on a Smartphone GPU? And, they do AI...
PowerVR Ray Tracing - Imagination Technologies
https://www.imgtec.com/legacy-gpu-cores/ray-tracing/
PowerVR Ray Tracing is a revolutionary technology that brings lightning fast ray tracing to the world's leading mobile GPU. This game-changing feature enables ...
PowerVR Series2NX
https://www.imgtec.com/powervr/vision/
Neural Network Accelerator
The complete, standalone hardware IP neural network
accelerator solution for SoC.
Real Time Ray Tracing from a Smartphone GPU - 6 GIGARAYS
UFD Tech
Published on Aug 27, 2018
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND96G...
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcf35...
• http://bit.ly/2wvvjJe
• http://bit.ly/2MxsGBv
What do you think about the Imagination PowerVR mobile GPU that can hit 6 Gigarays? Think it could have any application to AMD & their GPU future?
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We have successfully cancelled your order...
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9auuo2/we_have_successfully_cancelled_your_order/
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I wrote the Nvidia customer support an email, here it is:
I pre-ordered the RTX 2080Ti, and I wanted to verify when my order will be shipped. When I placed my order, the text was "This item will ship on or around 9/20/2018" or something to that effect, I wanted to make sure that was still the case.
Pretty straight forward, right? Well, I thought so too before I got this email earlier today:
Thank you for contacting the NVIDIA online store. We have successfully cancelled your order number 1xxxxxxxxxx as requested. .
In an effort to continuously improve the customer experience, we would like your feedback through a brief survey. It should only take a few minutes of your time.
<Survey Link>
Sincerely, <CUSTOMER REP_LET'S NOT BE A JERK> NVIDIA online store Customer Service [email protected] Email ID: 359646xx
Umm.. what?
I seriously cannot express in words how extremely annoying it is as a customer to have your inquiry completely disregarded and tossed aside to save effort while doing your job.. Now not only am I out a pre-order, I can no longer obtain one until (potentially) much later.
Some of you may think this is a good thing, but as someone that does a yearly upgrade and likes to stay bleeding-edge, it's a big slap in the face for simply asking a question.
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Nvidia Thread
Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Dr. AMK, Jul 4, 2017.