Nvidia Thread

And how low prices must be put to be able to sell all those million cards? + miners card will flooding the market. This will hurt as well Low sales or and low prices won’t make a huge of bucks. Release new cards within ok timeline or wait it out (wait longest possible)... This is more like a choice between pest or cholera.

 

The NVIDIA 11 Series Just A Rebrand - Say What? (another rumor)
Tech of Tomorrow
Published on Jul 7, 2018
Is The NVIDIA 11 Series Just A Rebrand - Say What?


11xx as a refresh, and Nvidia's business sense
Submitted 3 days ago by Afrikan_J4ck4L
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/8w520e/11xx_as_a_refresh_and_nvidias_business_sense/

"An interesting theory I encountered involves the rebranding of 10xx series cards as the new 11xx series.

This will involve shifting cards down a tier. Eg: 1080 - > 1170. But this will allow NV to supply market demand for "new" hardware while also depleting dated stockpiles without marking down the apparent masses of old stock around.

This has the added benefit of allowing time for the development of a proper 7nm chipset... The "GTX 20xx" series, for instance.

My question here is, is there anything that would prevent NV from doing something like this?"

jaykresge 3 days ago
"This will involve shifting cards down a tier. Eg: 1080 - > 1170.

This is what Nvidia did with Kepler from the 600-->700 series, just adding one new chip on top for the 780/Ti. It's also what AMD tries to do every generation. They haven't had a cohesive single design covering a full series since the HD7000 series.

My question here is, is there anything that would prevent NV from doing something like this?

Competition from AMD. Basically, only Nvidia can stop themselves from doing that, and I'd hope they wouldn't. Even if the 11 series is short lived due to rapid availability of 7nm, I'd still want a proper 11 series and not a refresh."

 

If they do that then which card is gonna be the new top dog, e.g. 1180 ti? Isn't the Titan Xp (3840 cuda cores) as big as they can make a Pascal GPU unless they create a new chip? Titan Xp: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_star_wars_titan_xp_collector_edition_review,6.html

 

The 1180ti would be the only "new card" There was another "leak":

Nvidia Next-gen PCB Prototype leaked?
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/8txjuc/nvidia_nextgen_pcb_prototype_leaked/

ImSpartacus811
"This looks like the "big Turing" GPU that would go into the 1180 Ti or new Titan.

• It has 12GB of GDDR6 for 672 GB/s of peak bandwidth.
  • The 12 14Gbps 8Gb chips (thanks for the data sheet lookup) signify "big" Turing whereas 8 chips signify the smaller 104-type part.
• Genuinely looks like a prototype board.
  • It has 3 8-pin power connectors (very odd, 2 is more likely in the final board).
  • Those little fans are loud as hell and certainly temporary.
  • Lots of little headers for connecting testing equipment.

EDIT: Beyond3D did some estimation and is getting 672mm2 on that die. That's 42% bigger than GP102, which is roughly in line with expectations.

Also, since OP took his post down, the original picture can be found on videocardz."

From the other thread:

tioga064
"They could basically rebrand the 1080 ti as 1180, 1080 as 1170 and 1070 as 1160 and release only one new card, gv102 based flagship as 1180 ti ( ^^the big gpu prototype leaked on reddit daya ago ^^) to harvest dies that couldnt make it to titan V. It would be a short lived gen anyways since 7nm is close."
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/8w520e/11xx_as_a_refresh_and_nvidias_business_sense/

Following through to another thread:

dylan522p
"Also definitely 12nm based on that die size Dreams crushed"

ImSpartacus811
"At dusk, we'll be holding a vigil for Dylan's 7nm 1100 series aspirations. All are welcome."

Yahvav
"Nah, it’s just 7380 cores /s"

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/com..._being_tested_im_a_software_guy_what/e1b042d/

 

Worst Graphics Card Ever! GeForce GT 1030, the DDR4 Scam Benchmarked
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Jul 9, 2018

 

A rebrand would be so bad for the industry. The upcoming game generation needs more gpu muscle and a rebrand would at least postpone a real follow up for a year.

 

I gotta say, I'm with these guys on this channel's output lately:

Mr AMD 14 minutes ago
"Dude, pull the plug out of your channel.... you live by clickbating and i know your source.... Wccftech..... you should do yourself a pleasure, and stop making new vids. Youre an disgrace for journalism, be gone TROLL"

D Johnson 17 minutes ago
"Please youtube algorithm stop suggesting me videos of a guys who makes videos debunking his debukned videos. I don't know how else to ask"

Micaela 3 hours ago (edited)
"I do not enjoy disliking videos, the 1% chance I do it is deserved, and you have earned it. The clickbait needs to stop, there is no exact release date. Until the source is directly from nvidia themselves don't waste our time, end of story."

Michael Brasington 4 hours ago (edited)
"first makes ridiculous "CONFIRMED RELEASE DATE" claim, then 3-days later retracts the claim"

signfang 6 hours ago
"I've watched a lot of your videos. Your video editing skill is fantastic but honestly your clickbait level is just unreal. Youtube ad money is good and all, still, this is unbearable."

...lots more... check out the "fabled yummy fudge" comment...

 

GTC Europe 2018 - Teaser: Alumni


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GTC Europe 2018 - Teaser: Autonomous Machines

 

NVIDIA Gives Away Kingston SSD with the purchase of a 1050 or 1060
By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 07/24/2018

From the looks of it, NVIDIA might be trying to clear some stock as they offer a free SSD if you purchase a GeForce GTX 1050 or 1060 through select resellers. The promotion might have a geo cap though.

 

Its more like AMD gaming bundle.

 

HWiNFO 64 Adds Support For Next Generation NVIDIA Graphics Cards
WccftechTV
Published on Jul 25, 2018
https://wccftech.com/hwinfo-64-adds-s...
As we close in on the NVIDIA Turing launch date that we had talked about in our exclusive about a month back, the NVIDIA chips in question are starting to pop in diagnostic tools like HWiNFO 64.

 

EXCLUSIVE: NVIDIA’s Next Generation Graphics Cards Specifications, Pricing And Nomenclature Details

Release schedule of the brand new graphics cards
I was also able to talk about the expected release schedule and my source seemed to confirm what has been stated for quite some time now – namely that the lineup will be following a staggered release schedule. As has been the case since the start, our source refused to call them by any particular name and wanted to only refer to them as the small, medium and big GPU so I will resort to the TDP naming convention once again.

Add in board partners and vendors of NVIDIA are expecting to have the SKUs stocked by the following dates, which is around the same time we should see them released:

• The NVIDIA next-gen 120W GPU will be arriving at the end of September.
• The NVIDIA next-gen 150W GPU will be arriving by the second week of September.
• The NVIDIA next-gen 180W GPU will be arriving in the first week of September.

All in all, it looks like gamers can expect some new cards to play with soon enough. The one thing that our source talked about, however, was that NVIDIA will not have enough graphics cards to meet demand so expect the usual Amazon and eBay over pricing shenanigans before supply runs force the price to something more palatable.

 

NVIDIA Partners Clear GeForce 10 Series Inventory By Offering Promo Bundles, Price Cuts on Various Custom Graphics Cards
Hassan Mujtaba • 07.28.2018
Promotional Bundles and Price Cuts on Various GeForce 10 Cards
NVIDIA is running the campaign through a variety of top retailers and their board partners. The marketing scheme involves bundled promotions such as SSD bundles with a range of GeForce 10 graphics cards and also the NVIDIA exclusive game promo which includes a copy of Destiny 2 and it’s two DLCs, Curse of the Osiris and Warmind.


The entire lineup has received the promo which includes GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, GeForce GTX 1080, GeForce GTX 1070 Ti, GeForce GTX 1070, GeForce GTX 1060 and the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti. It’s note worthy that since this is a region-specific marketing campaign right now which includes the UAE, UK, and Portugal, prices are based in either British Pound or AED. Also, being region specific also means that not all manufacturer graphics cards would be included in the campaign, based on your location.

 

NVIDIA AIB Manli registers GA104-400 - Ampere? And Lists GeForce GTX 2070 and 2080

 

GPU Company Leaks GTX 2080 Design & 7nm Potentially Delayed
• 10:00 - GTX 2080 Picture Leaked

 

News Corner | Too Many GTX 1180 Rumors, Intel 9th-Gen Roadmap
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Aug 3, 2018

Spoiler: Show Index + Sources

News Topics:
00:35 - Nvidia Hosting GeForce Gaming Celebration at Gamescom 2018
1:23 - Is This The GTX 1180 PCB?
2:12 - GA104, GTX 2070 and GTX 2080 Appear in Certification Database
3:26 - ASUS Lists Upcoming Z390 Motherboards
4:05 - MSI Confirms 9th-gen Support on Z370
4:35 - Leaked Roadmap Suggests 9th-gen Intel Launch in October
5:17 - Memory Oversupply Could Be Coming in 2019
5:51 - Logitech Buys Blue Microphones

Sources:
https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-C...
https://videocardz.com/76953/nvidia-g...
https://wccftech.com/nvidias-geforce-...
https://portal.eaeunion.org/sites/oda...
https://twitter.com/KOMACHI_ENSAKA/st...
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13130/...
https://www.pcworld.com/article/32939...
https://videocardz.com/76929/lastest-...
https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180...
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreak...

 

Nvidia GeForce...RTX 2080
AdoredTV
Published on Aug 10, 2018
Turing is incoming, with some new branding?

 

Did they join hands with AMD? No. Its their Raytracing tech. just to showcase that their GPU excels in gaming and creative content creators.

 

Did you watch enough to notice that the RTX models are only the high end GPU's that comprise only a few % of marketshare?

The point is that requiring creatives to create for both the 99.9% (new and old non-RTX hardware) as they have been - only to add a bunch of work to feed the 0.1% with ray-tracing goodies is an unnecessary and unreasonable burden.

Nvidia should have made RTX functionality throughout their new lineup, all the way down to the lowest performance and highest % shipping models.

As this holds true for Nvidia RTX and Microsoft DXR features, 99.9% of the marketplace has no support for it.

Unfortunately it will induce the nVidiot's into spending way too much money just to click to enable a "RTX / DXR / Raytracing" box in Half-Life 3...

 

GeForce GTX 1180 going Dual-fans and would be available in September
By Guru3d.com on: 08/10/2018 08:36 AM |

Over in Asia, some bold new claims have been made, two actually. The first one would be that that new GeForce 1180 / 2080 would need more colling, the reference design aka founders editions would be fitted with two fans.

 

Finally big corps did get some idea on how to properly cool PC components and adjust to any conditions.

 

And if this is true (hotter next gen graphics) what with notebooks? Go back to old days with less powerful M branded moniker vs. desktop graphics? Aka all will now be Max-Qrippled in one or another way due more heat output. Or will we see notebooks with 2 small fans instead of one big fan as before for all coming models with the +110/200w “N” variants? We will have to see.

 

SIGGRAPH 2018 - NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang - Reinventing Computer Graphics

 

GeForce 2080 OFFICIALLY Teased, NEW Benchmarks Leaked!

 

Why Tesla Dropped Nvidia's AI Platform For Self-Driving Cars And Built Its Own
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanba...-driving-cars-and-built-its-own/#480da2be6722

 

NVIDIA RTX 2080 DROPPING NEXT WEEK!

 

RTX 2080 Ti launching along side RTX 2080?!

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-custom-msi-geforce-rtx-2080ti-and-rtx-2080-graphics-card-leak/

https://www.techradar.com/news/nvid...x-2080-ti-with-11gb-of-gddr6-memory-next-week

https://videocardz.com/newz/exclusive-msi-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-gaming-x-trio-pictured

 

https://imgur.com/a/16c03Zt#GnFetMj

https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1030389111775875072

The leaks continue. Dammit this is getting exciting. So glad I dumped my 1080 Ti for $650. This TDP modded 1070 laptop is doing well holding me over though.

This card is HUGE.

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-duke-pictured

2080 Ti incoming and my wallet is ready.

 

GeForce RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti - An Overview Thus far - Meet NVIDIA Turing
by Hilbert Hagedoorn Guru3d.com on: 08/17/2018 04:53 PM [ ]


NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti
Unraveling NVIDIA's biggest enigma to date...

Exciting times
We’re going to see a lot of new stuff in the weeks, months and year to come. Anything from Geforce RTX 2050, 2060, 2070, 2080, 2080 Ti, RTX Titan and so on. It will be very interesting to see who will release what, as the initial release, of course, will be a founder edition solely, with likely a month later to see new AIB/AIC board partner products, often with improved cooling.

I hope you enjoyed this little write-up, more next week, of course. Have a good weekend!

 

Yep, read that, good article. We should receive an announcement/reveal of the new cards by NVidia at Gamescom on Monday next week (20th August) - and I'm thinking reviews will follow not long after!

 

Bloody hell, RTX 2080ti might have 48% more cores than RTX 2080! See here:
https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-rtx-2080-price-specs,news-59003.html
So that's 4352 cores vs 2944 cores: 48% more cores. That's a massive difference in potential performance if you can cool the ti version - how about water cooling on that puppy, you might get close to 48% increase in performance over RTX 2080 if you water cool that ti! I can't see why anyone would buy the RTX 2080 if that's the case, everyone should just save up & buy the RTX 2080ti, it seems better value for money unless they sell RTX 2080 for about $600. (Well, $675 mathematically, but you should pay a little premium for a ti card) (Mind you $600 is about right for a GTX **80 card?) These are leaks, so we're not talking absolute facts here, but not long to wait till all is revealed, perhaps Monday.

 

If you're waiting for 2080Ti, wait for couple of months, otherwise Nvidia will release Ti founders/CEO/COO/Chairman editions just like Titan X Pascal and Xp.

 

Oh yeah, you mean like with more cores. Some of the Quadro cards have 4608 cores, so I guess that's possible. I'd be surprised if I'm gonna buy this generation though, for a couple of reasons:
1) I don't need it yet, I'll probably only buy a new card when my GTX 1070 doesn't push enough frames in online multiplayer, e.g. 144fps in BF V at decent settings.
2) I think with this advent of these new Ray Tracing & Tensor Cores, I think it's an immature new tech - we don't know how many games are gonna take advantage of it, plus I believe the next GPU architecture after Turing will be the one where they further optimise Ray Tracing & Tensor Cores or perhaps even scrap it based on their experiences with the games available & upcoming. Perhaps consoles really need to get Ray Tracing & Tensor Cores for the games market to take flight with it.

Yep, so currently unlikely I'll be upgrading to this new architecture, I'll see how it pans out though in relation to what I'm talking about above.

 

Tensor and RT are for HPC/Rendering/Scientific areas. I reckon games will utilise a subset version of fast approximate ray tracing in real time. For small scenes it is okay to render quickly. Large scenes with multiple objects mimicking the real world will be a lot tougher.

 

From worse to even more worse. This time we will have two downscaled Mobile graphics card versions (M and Max-Q). Aka two mobile graphics who perform worse than the desktop versions (Back to the old days, LOOL). All we will have left will be two versions of Max-Q http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ounge-phoenix-4.809589/page-222#post-10782800

 

This GTX 1080 Ti bundle is a great value for first-time PC builders
The graphics card alone usually costs $700 or more
By Cameron Faulkner @camfaulkner Aug 17, 2018, 11:12am EDT
https://www.theverge.com/good-deals...80-ti-bundle-vega-first-time-pc-builders-deal

"Building a gaming PC with the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti inside isn’t a cheap endeavor, usually requiring at least $700 for the card alone. But just ahead of the expected launch of Nvidia’s RTX 2080, it’s likely no coincidence that it’s more affordable today at B&H. You’ll find the 1080 Ti as part of a $999 EVGA bundle that’s perfect if you want to build a powerful PC from scratch.

The GTX 1080 Ti in question comes with a huge list of extras, including: an ATX case, 850W modular power supply unit, ATX motherboard that’s compatible with the latest Intel CPUs, a liquid-cooling system, tuners to help improve airflow with the liquid-cooling system, an SLI bridge that allows you to link up a second 1080 Ti, and finally, an adapter that reroutes the GPU’s power cords for better cable management.

According to B&H, purchasing each of the components separately would cost around $1,800.

This isn’t a fantastic deal if you’re just looking to snag a high-end GPU for less, as we expect the price for this and other 10-series Pascal GPUs to fall if the next-gen series launches at competing price points.

And we’re not sure that all of the included components are essential to a good PC build, but the $999 price makes it pretty hard to resist. You could build the PC for someone else, or just as a backup of your own."

Comments

Cameron Faulkner
"If you’re curious, here are the links for the individual items included in the bundle:
Power supply
Water cooler
ATX case
ATX motherboard
SLI bridge
CLC tuners
Cable management GPU adapter "
Posted on Aug 17, 2018 | 11:16 AM

 

Yep, NVidia have stepped up the TDP with their Turing desktop cards, so like you say they won't be able to provide that kind of power in a laptop - I think that's proof of just how good Pascal was, and maybe testimony to how Turing is not such an improvement with NVidia having to push the power envelope to maintain a justifiable performance gain over Pascal. Praps another reason to hold out for the next architecture after Turing.

 

“ I think it’s probably time to let the cat out of the bag because the cat’s going to come out of the bag anyway.”—Elon Musk, August 2, 2018

Why Tesla Abandoned Nvidia Chips For Its Own Replacement | Fortune
By AARON PRESSMAN and ADAM LASHINSKY
August 6, 2018
http://fortune.com/2018/08/06/data-sheet-tesla-dumps-nvidia-chips/

"Overlooked in all the hoopla last week around Elon Musk’s apology, astronaut flights announced for his SpaceX business, and Tesla’s improving rates of production was a little news about silicon.

Tesla has been relying on chips from Nvidia to power its autopilot and self-driving car features, specifically Nvidia’s PX2 platform.

But last week, Musk “let the cat out of the bag” about the carmaker’s own chip efforts.

Nvidia is out, to be replaced in all Teslas with a chip developed internally. “I’m a big fan of Nvidia, they do great stuff,” Musk noted before giving Nvidia the axe."
...
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Elon Musk says Tesla A.I. chip project is 'finally coming to fruition'
The project has been in the works for three years, Musk said.
The chips are meant to cost no more than currently used technology.
Jordan Novet | @jordannovet
Published 7:26 PM ET Wed, 1 Aug 2018 Updated 10:47 AM ET Sat, 4 Aug 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/01/elo...ip-project-is-finally-coming-to-fruition.html

Nvidia CEO is 'more than happy to help' if Tesla A.I. chip doesn't pan out
Jordan Novet | @jordannovet
Published 7:40 PM ET Thu, 16 Aug 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/nvi...appy-to-help-if-tesla-ai-chip-plan-fails.html

TESLA AND NVIDIA
Automotive Partners
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/self-driving-cars/partners/tesla/

 

Yeah, around 180w will probably be max.

From what I have seen the TDP for RTX 2080 (not Ti) isn’t fully clear. Some places talk about 210w. Other places 250 and even 285w same as Ti. But a fully single RTX 2080Ti would fit very well in a chassis like the Clevo P870

 

285W in Clevo P870? Will they manufacture one specific & different mobile GPU for just one model of laptop?

 

I mean they really should The only laptop with balls

 

You mean LGA? PSU will be over 1000W for 2080 SLI. With 5GHz CPU and SLI, 500W is a bare minimum unless BGA says otherwise to keep it thin and complicated.

 

Did you read my post? Coming highest performance graphics will be as before (180w TDP). Mobile graphics will go backwards vs. desktop cards performance. One step forward and one step back. Mobile 980 and 1080 (N) was more equal desktop cards as ever before. Now back to old days. But this time with two downscaled mobile versions. See we have Max-Q as well now.

 

Sounds like Nvidia is pushing laptop owners towards eGPUs. But, if you have to go there, might as well stick with desktops.

 

Ha, yep, but they won't do it just for one!

Looking forward to some GPU announcements tomorrow, let's see what happens!

 

The chip die seems to be quite a bit larger for the 2080. This might explain the extra powerdraw. Even though its 12nm (based on 16). But a machine big enough to cool it.

Excited for ray tracing though. Thats the next big step for gaming graphics.

 

Watch Jensen Huang’s NVIDIA GeForce Keynote Live On August 20th
By Andrew Burnes on August 18, 2018 | Events Gamescom 2018 Featured Stories
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-geforce-keynote-live-on-august-20th/

You won’t want to miss Monday’s keynote, so make sure to tune into Twitch at 6pm CET. https://www.twitch.tv/nvidia

"The world’s biggest gaming expo, Gamescom 2018, runs August 21-25 in Cologne, Germany. But before the show begins, NVIDIA will be hosting an event on August 20 loaded with new, exclusive, hands-on demos of the hottest upcoming games, stage presentations from the world’s biggest game developers, and some spectacular surprises. And to kick things off, there’ll be a livestreamed keynote delivered by none other than Jensen Huang, founder and chief executive officer of NVIDIA.

Our special event is at the Palladium, at Schanzenstraße 36, Cologne, 51063, Germany. If you’re in the area you can register to attend here. Doors open at 5.30pm CET, and the fun starts at 6pm. There’s limited space, so make sure you arrive early.

If you aren’t able to attend Monday’s epic evening event, the festivities continue at the Palladium on Tuesday at 10am ,and run clear through to 5pm . Again, space is strictly on a first-come, first-served basis, so make sure you and your clan members turn up early to go hands-on with the spectacular PC-powered demos of the most-anticipated, yet-to-be-released games.

We’ll also be at Gamescom, in Hall 10.1, Booth E-072, and GeForce will loom large at over 20 of our partners’ booths, powering the latest PC demos of Battlefield V, Metro Exodus, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and many other games.

You won’t want to miss Monday’s keynote, so make sure to tune into Twitch at 6pm CET. https://www.twitch.tv/nvidia

Palladium Event: When
Monday, Aug. 20, 2018
6pm-Midnight CET
Tuesday, Aug. 21, 2018
10am-5pm CET
Palladium Event: Where
Palladium, Schanzenstraße 36, Cologne, 51063, Germany"

NVIDIA #BeForTheGame - RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti Announcement Live Stream Press Conference
August 20th 8am - 16 hours from now.
The Technoclast
Scheduled for Aug 20, 2018
The world’s biggest gaming expo, Gamescom 2018, runs August 21-25 in Cologne, Germany. But before the show begins, NVIDIA will be hosting an event on August 20 loaded with new, exclusive, hands-on demos of the hottest upcoming games, stage presentations from the world’s biggest game developers, and some spectacular surprises. And to kick things off, there’ll be a livestreamed keynote delivered by none other than Jensen Huang, founder and chief executive officer of NVIDIA.

 

Yeah, I mean I have read RTX 2070 is 400mm² and RTX 2080 Ti more like 754mm2 die.

 

Ha, I was about to link that! Yep, I think I'll watch that, 5pm UK time judging from the countdown.